It takes approximately 2-3 hours to shove that much data across the wire, even at THOSE speeds.
I know this because that's what it took to push the day's data around before compression. Worse, you need a BEAST of a computer to keep up with the data coming in that fast for anything other than displaying it or storing it to disk. People just don't get that 30Gb is a LOT of data to be manipulating quickly. Try it sometime with your PC- it's just not going to happen without some sort of help there. Uncompressed, a current full DVD's data will take up about 30Gb.
Video's a beast. To flip it around, we're going to need compression for some time to come.
You'd not be any more likely to get laid in that situation than the normal one. (I will admit, though, that the scenery would probably be more appealing then... >:-) )
Fluorinert's ozone depleting. Novec's a greenhouse gas problem.
Every other fluid in this class has the same set of issues, unfortunately.
They may be "clean" and non-toxic, but they're decidedly NOT environment friendly compared to oils- and they're a hell of a lot more expensive than oils and not as effective at cooling things.
The reason why the fluids are used in the supercomputer industry is more the mess caused by the oils on everything- and they're actively cooling the systems. Oils are actually superior to the fluids in heat-transfer terms- it's why you have oil filled transformers for power distribution instead of dielectric fluid filled ones. The specific heat of Novec is actually less than air's- the only advantages these fluids have is that you can effectively move a LOT more of it quickly over a surfaces being cooled without noise and you can refrigerate the stuff to below ambient to temperatures close to the freezing point of water without condensation risks.
Oils tend to have issues with active cooling. Unless you're implementing vapor-phase, stirling cycle, or aggressive peltier active cooling below ambient, you are actually better off with oils than the fluids as they won't work as well at cooling- you'll be better off with air cooling.
This has been discovered by the overclock crowd and they have done a handful of oil-immersed PC's. The main reason why you don't see a lot more of those oil immersed PC's is oil wicking by the wires. Each point where a connector would be or a peripheral like a CD/DVD or hard disk is hooked in has wires coming out of the system that will wick the oil or dielectric fluid out all over the place. In order to deal with this specific problem, you'd have to resort to specialized sealed header and other connectors for each edge case for SATA/PATA, VGA/DVI, etc. Those don't come cheap, so the overclocker crowd tends to just resort to fishtank and similar plays for lan parties or PAX/QuakeCon, etc.
So, in the end, it is a mixed bag. The oils are messier, but are actually more environmentally friendly than the dielectric fluids- and they have a higher heat capacity and thermal conductivity in many cases.
There's always a few good things out there, and then there's the rest of it- something thrown out there in the vain hope some fool will buy it to have some new game fix.
Storage capacity may be effectively such that you don't need to compress music- and possibly so with video.
But communications capacity- the bandwidth needed to push the uncompressed stuff doesn't exist today in an economical method. An OC3 isn't practical for transferring 30+ GBytes of data- and that'd be about one movie's worth at SVHS quality.
Considering that that Apple 30" monitor costs roughly $1500-2000 versus $600-700 for two good 20" displays (Yes, I've recently priced BOTH for the reason that I want and need more display space to work with...) and has nearly the same screen real-estate as the Apple monitor, you have a difficult selling point for the bean counters- programming typically, unless it's for a 3D studio or similar, doesn't need unbroken screen real-estate; it just needs a good active display space that is half again to double the screen real-estate space that we see with a 20-22" monitor.
It may be that the Apple monitor's better (and it is...) but the freaking cost of the silly thing makes the two display configuration more needed than one would think.
(Ah, Stormwatch- one of my favorite albums. That'd be the fourth Tull album I'd ever bought from any source... Warchild was the first, Thick as a Brick was second, Benefit was the third...)
I definitely can agree. Albums don't sell because they've got a couple of decent songs and then a BUNCH of what would be considered drawer bottom tapes; much like Nightcap was from Jethro Tull- of interest solely to the real fans of the band, and possibly not even that good. (Heh, there's some gems in Nightcap- and then some warty, nasty, smelly old things that probably only a hardcore fan could gain any enjoyment out of... Much like a good bottle of Laphroaig would be to a Scotch drinker... Not everybody likes that stuff... >:-)
I'd rather get the good stuff via some venue like iTunes than buy that whole pile of junk- and spend only a couple of dollars instead of $12-20 for what is mostly a pile of moldering rat droppings. I'm dead certain that most other people are the same way.
You can always hope that the WINE guys get their DX9/DX10 interface done quickly enough. It will eventually be fashioned such that you can use OpenGL/WGL on Windows XP to run DirectX 10 games. Might not be QUITE as fast as it potentially could be with DX10, but after having seen the...performance...or rather, the lack thereof, on Vista, even with DX10 titles... It might not be any different, after all. >:-)
Me, I'm going to keep using Linux, trying to get Linux titles going, and playing something OTHER than X-Box or Windows Vista titles.
Want to be targeting games for the new high-end mobile phones about to come out? You'd better use OpenGL/OpenGL ES- DirectX doesn't work there.
Want to target Wii? OpenGL ES will make your life a LOT easier. DirectX doesn't work there.
Want to target PS3? Better use OpenGL. DirectX definitely doesn't work there.
Want to target MacOS? Better use OpenGL. DirectX definitely doesn't work there.
In reality, about only half of the total potential customer base for a title would benefit from a DirectX only title, if that. It all depends on the title, really. I know of new OpenGL based games being cranked out now to run on the other next-gen consoles as I'm typing this.
There's always at least one or two songs in each of Ian and Company's albums that you can get a distinct picture without any other part of the album. Most of the songs in Aqualung are that way with the very definite imagery of Aqualung, Cross-Eyed Mary, Hymn 42, and Locomotive Breath. The names don't tell you precisely what the song's about, but the song itself portrays a vignette of the entire story in Aqualung. The same goes for the bulk of Warchild's songs (Though Sealion doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless you hear it in it's proper place in the album...heh...it's kind of a unique song...)- Queen and Country, Warchild, and Bungle in the Jungle do the same sort of thing.
But, few could pull off ONE effectively album length song. Jethro Tull did it twice. I would have liked to have heard the album Ian was striving for in the Chateau D'isaster Tapes (a flawed first pass at A Passion Play had some interesting stuff in it...) But, I don't mind what we actually got in A Passion Play.
Her stance is that they broke the law instead. Representing that they had concrete information about the contents of her machine from off of a closed network, using an unauthorized client is hacking. That's a violation of several state and Federal laws on the subject. And, it's the only way they could have concievably known about anything on her HD. It gets even worse for RIAA, MediaSentry, and the labels. MediaSentry's in trouble for doing the hacking they did- even if they never really hacked her machine. RIAA's in trouble for arranging the act (much like someone would get in trouble for hiring a hitman to go do in someone...) and if they didn't get information on her "illegal filesharing" they're also guilty of making false representations. All of which can flow, liability wise, all the way back to the member labels as RIAA was acting on their behalf and orders in this matter (Back to the Hitman line of thinking...)
There's a reason why She's filing under her State's RICO laws first. If it gets that far, it'll provide the solid basis for a FEDERAL RICO suit. I'm surprised nobody's filed one against them until now, really- they are guilty of racketeering and all. As guilty of it as a cat is guilty of being caught in a goldfish bowl when you catch it trying for the fish in it.
...that I've seen the quality of "professional" IP counsel up close, I can tell you that many of them aren't any better at it than we are, believe it or not. I've got one of the better lawyers in the field as my patent attorney, and he's razor sharp and what meets your apparent picture of them. The previous joker, also a lawyer at the Law Firm we retained, heh... Many, VERY many of them only pretend to know what is and isn't viable or not. If I were Vonage, I'd have fired their litigators and got better ones.
The patents are pretty much rubbish in the first place and were largely rubber-stamped into existence.
Can someone just club the USPTO collectively to death for that one? What Vonage is doing is no different from the mobile phone companies are freaking doing with Cell service terminiation- and I can assure you they're not paying royalties for that process nor is it something I'd consider patentable, really. Doing something counterintuitive that works better? That MIGHT be something someone could make a case for patenting, even in software, but this? AAAAARGH!
Innocent until proven guilty only applies to the Criminal Justice System. Civil law operates under the preponderance of evidence standard- and unless you invalidate the evidence the other side is presenting, if they've enough of it, you'll lose the case. That's how the RIAA is getting these things through- shock and awe. And pretty much every one of the cases so far that have actually gone to court have been a loss for the RIAA.
I wish that one of the courts would twig onto the fact that the labels and RIAA are very probably acting as a vexatious litigant and punish them accordingly.
Your remark is silly, considering that Peanuts are a natural substance and Aspartame is a synthetic substance that comprises three neurotoxins loosely bound up and then released at around body temperature that make it taste sweet. Two of which are very problematic substances to be taking in.
If it's got nuts, you can probably make a good determination for it. And the peanuts allergy problem is a new one on the scene- it didn't use to be a problem for humans.
Aspartame was one out of the gate. And, if it's sugar free, you've got to check to see if it's got Acesulfame, Splenda, or NutraSweet in the makeup. More people have problems with NutraSweet than most of the other sweeteners combined. About 1/2-2/3rds of the stuff out there gets put back on the shelf by me these days because I just can't have it.
Considering that I don't get it with Splenda, Saccarin, Acesulfame, or Stevia, your commentary is at least slightly inaccurate. Also worthy of note, I'm a Type II Diabetic- I don't have the same sorts of Insulin responses that other people do.
Aspartame is the ONLY substance to really do this thing. I consider that to be a potential problem especially in light of HOW it tastes sweet to you.
If you stream, you owe the compulsory licensing- doesn't matter if you're streaming signed artists or not.
This is what they want. They don't want the venue to exist, so they'll get the government to tax the hell out of it so it'll go away. I wouldn't mind helping my favorite internet stations pay the bill if I thought that the money would go to the artists I listen to (All unsigned in the case of the stations- I like listening to Celtic, Celtic Rock, and Renaissance Festival music on the streams. I don't listen to much else...) but I know that this big spike in fees happens to go to the pockets of RIAA directly and then to the labels.
Not to the artists in question. Not to someone who's at all a legitimate rights holder for the stuff in question. Just to RIAA.
Tell me again WHY the radio stream providers have to do this?
They want this stuff off the air because they see themselves as being the gatekeepers of culture.
TurboTax has DRM that messes with your machine in ways that can trash it- in and of itself that merits changing off of the product for a comparable solution.
TaxCut doesn't seem to do this and works completely correctly under WINE and CrossOver, even down to printing the forms. I've done my taxes for the last 4 years without needing to reboot into XP. No hassles once you've got the web foundation fonts installed in WINE.
It just simply works. It's not as good an answer as a native version of either tax program, but I suspect you may be waiting another couple of years for that to happen. Why wait if that's the only hold up for you?
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That very thing thing may well have occurred anyhow.
It takes approximately 2-3 hours to shove that much data across the wire, even at THOSE speeds.
I know this because that's what it took to push the day's data around before compression. Worse,
you need a BEAST of a computer to keep up with the data coming in that fast for anything other than
displaying it or storing it to disk. People just don't get that 30Gb is a LOT of data to be
manipulating quickly. Try it sometime with your PC- it's just not going to happen without some
sort of help there. Uncompressed, a current full DVD's data will take up about 30Gb.
Video's a beast. To flip it around, we're going to need compression for some time to come.
Try a combined price, next time. You just repeated what I just said... :-)
You'd not be any more likely to get laid in that situation than the normal one.
(I will admit, though, that the scenery would probably be more appealing then... >:-) )
Fluorinert's ozone depleting.
Novec's a greenhouse gas problem.
Every other fluid in this class has the same set of issues, unfortunately.
They may be "clean" and non-toxic, but they're decidedly NOT environment friendly compared to oils-
and they're a hell of a lot more expensive than oils and not as effective at cooling things.
The reason why the fluids are used in the supercomputer industry is more the mess caused by the oils
on everything- and they're actively cooling the systems. Oils are actually superior to the fluids
in heat-transfer terms- it's why you have oil filled transformers for power distribution instead of
dielectric fluid filled ones. The specific heat of Novec is actually less than air's- the only advantages
these fluids have is that you can effectively move a LOT more of it quickly over a surfaces being cooled
without noise and you can refrigerate the stuff to below ambient to temperatures close to the freezing
point of water without condensation risks.
Oils tend to have issues with active cooling. Unless you're implementing vapor-phase, stirling cycle,
or aggressive peltier active cooling below ambient, you are actually better off with oils than the fluids
as they won't work as well at cooling- you'll be better off with air cooling.
This has been discovered by the overclock crowd and they have done a handful of oil-immersed PC's.
The main reason why you don't see a lot more of those oil immersed PC's is oil wicking
by the wires. Each point where a connector would be or a peripheral like a CD/DVD or hard disk is
hooked in has wires coming out of the system that will wick the oil or dielectric fluid out all over
the place. In order to deal with this specific problem, you'd have to resort to specialized sealed
header and other connectors for each edge case for SATA/PATA, VGA/DVI, etc. Those don't come cheap,
so the overclocker crowd tends to just resort to fishtank and similar plays for lan parties or
PAX/QuakeCon, etc.
So, in the end, it is a mixed bag. The oils are messier, but are actually more environmentally friendly
than the dielectric fluids- and they have a higher heat capacity and thermal conductivity in many cases.
AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRGH!
You just HAD to paint that picture, didn't you?
There's always a few good things out there, and then there's the rest of it- something thrown out there in the vain hope some
fool will buy it to have some new game fix.
Storage capacity may be effectively such that you don't need to compress music- and possibly so with video.
But communications capacity- the bandwidth needed to push the uncompressed stuff doesn't exist today in an economical method. An OC3 isn't
practical for transferring 30+ GBytes of data- and that'd be about one movie's worth at SVHS quality.
Considering that that Apple 30" monitor costs roughly $1500-2000 versus $600-700 for two good 20" displays
(Yes, I've recently priced BOTH for the reason that I want and need more display space to work with...)
and has nearly the same screen real-estate as the Apple monitor, you have a difficult selling point for the
bean counters- programming typically, unless it's for a 3D studio or similar, doesn't need unbroken screen
real-estate; it just needs a good active display space that is half again to double the screen real-estate
space that we see with a 20-22" monitor.
It may be that the Apple monitor's better (and it is...) but the freaking cost of the silly thing makes
the two display configuration more needed than one would think.
(Ah, Stormwatch- one of my favorite albums. That'd be the fourth Tull album I'd ever bought from any source... Warchild was the first, Thick as a Brick was second, Benefit was the third...)
I definitely can agree. Albums don't sell because they've got a couple of decent songs and then a BUNCH of what would be considered drawer bottom tapes; much like Nightcap was from Jethro Tull- of interest solely to the real fans of the band, and possibly not even that good. (Heh, there's some gems in Nightcap- and then some warty, nasty, smelly old things that probably only a hardcore fan could gain any enjoyment out of... Much like a good bottle of Laphroaig would be to a Scotch drinker... Not everybody likes that stuff... >:-)
I'd rather get the good stuff via some venue like iTunes than buy that whole pile of junk- and spend only a couple of dollars instead of $12-20 for what is mostly a pile of moldering rat droppings. I'm dead certain that most other people are the same way.
You can always hope that the WINE guys get their DX9/DX10 interface done quickly enough. It will eventually be fashioned such that you can use OpenGL/WGL on Windows XP to run DirectX 10 games. Might not be QUITE as fast as it potentially could be with DX10, but after having seen the...performance...or rather, the lack thereof, on Vista, even with DX10 titles... It might not be any different, after all. >:-)
Me, I'm going to keep using Linux, trying to get Linux titles going, and playing something OTHER than X-Box or Windows Vista titles.
Want to be targeting games for the new high-end mobile phones about to come out? You'd better use OpenGL/OpenGL ES- DirectX doesn't work there.
Want to target Wii? OpenGL ES will make your life a LOT easier. DirectX doesn't work there.
Want to target PS3? Better use OpenGL. DirectX definitely doesn't work there.
Want to target MacOS? Better use OpenGL. DirectX definitely doesn't work there.
In reality, about only half of the total potential customer base for a title would benefit from a DirectX only title, if that. It all depends on the title, really. I know of new OpenGL based games being cranked out now to run on the other next-gen consoles as I'm typing this.
There's always at least one or two songs in each of Ian and Company's albums that you can get a distinct picture
without any other part of the album. Most of the songs in Aqualung are that way with the very definite imagery
of Aqualung, Cross-Eyed Mary, Hymn 42, and Locomotive Breath. The names don't tell you precisely what the song's
about, but the song itself portrays a vignette of the entire story in Aqualung. The same goes for the bulk of
Warchild's songs (Though Sealion doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless you hear it in it's proper place in
the album...heh...it's kind of a unique song...)- Queen and Country, Warchild, and Bungle in the Jungle do the
same sort of thing.
But, few could pull off ONE effectively album length song. Jethro Tull did it twice. I would have liked to
have heard the album Ian was striving for in the Chateau D'isaster Tapes (a flawed first pass at A Passion Play
had some interesting stuff in it...) But, I don't mind what we actually got in A Passion Play.
Her stance is that they broke the law instead. Representing that they had concrete information
about the contents of her machine from off of a closed network, using an unauthorized client
is hacking. That's a violation of several state and Federal laws on the subject. And, it's the
only way they could have concievably known about anything on her HD. It gets even worse for
RIAA, MediaSentry, and the labels. MediaSentry's in trouble for doing the hacking they did- even
if they never really hacked her machine. RIAA's in trouble for arranging the act (much like
someone would get in trouble for hiring a hitman to go do in someone...) and if they didn't get
information on her "illegal filesharing" they're also guilty of making false representations.
All of which can flow, liability wise, all the way back to the member labels as RIAA was acting
on their behalf and orders in this matter (Back to the Hitman line of thinking...)
There's a reason why She's filing under her State's RICO laws first. If it gets that far, it'll
provide the solid basis for a FEDERAL RICO suit. I'm surprised nobody's filed one against them
until now, really- they are guilty of racketeering and all. As guilty of it as a cat is guilty
of being caught in a goldfish bowl when you catch it trying for the fish in it.
...that I've seen the quality of "professional" IP counsel up close, I can tell you that many of them
aren't any better at it than we are, believe it or not. I've got one of the better lawyers in the field
as my patent attorney, and he's razor sharp and what meets your apparent picture of them. The previous
joker, also a lawyer at the Law Firm we retained, heh... Many, VERY many of them only pretend to know
what is and isn't viable or not. If I were Vonage, I'd have fired their litigators and got better ones.
The patents are pretty much rubbish in the first place and were largely rubber-stamped into existence.
They're intrinsically garbage, tying "internet" to something that's prior art and basically done for
mobile services already.
Heh... I think they've mostly lost trust already- we just don't have alternatives in hand yet...
Can someone just club the USPTO collectively to death for that one? What Vonage is doing is no different from the mobile phone companies are freaking doing with Cell service terminiation- and I can assure you they're not paying royalties for that process
nor is it something I'd consider patentable, really. Doing something counterintuitive that works better? That MIGHT be something
someone could make a case for patenting, even in software, but this? AAAAARGH!
(Please note: IANAL...)
Innocent until proven guilty only applies to the Criminal Justice System.
Civil law operates under the preponderance of evidence standard- and unless you invalidate the evidence the other
side is presenting, if they've enough of it, you'll lose the case. That's how the RIAA is getting these things
through- shock and awe. And pretty much every one of the cases so far that have actually gone to court have been
a loss for the RIAA.
I wish that one of the courts would twig onto the fact that the labels and RIAA are very probably acting
as a vexatious litigant and punish them accordingly.
SH, from which RapidMind's core tech came from, is FOSS and you can do
many of the things their stuff does with SH.
There's a different level of standards in a Civil suit.
Your remark is silly, considering that Peanuts are a natural substance and Aspartame is a
synthetic substance that comprises three neurotoxins loosely bound up and then released
at around body temperature that make it taste sweet. Two of which are very problematic
substances to be taking in.
If it's got nuts, you can probably make a good determination for it. And the peanuts
allergy problem is a new one on the scene- it didn't use to be a problem for humans.
Aspartame was one out of the gate. And, if it's sugar free, you've got to check to see
if it's got Acesulfame, Splenda, or NutraSweet in the makeup. More people have problems
with NutraSweet than most of the other sweeteners combined. About 1/2-2/3rds of the stuff
out there gets put back on the shelf by me these days because I just can't have it.
Sugar Free doesn't mean I can have it.
Considering that I don't get it with Splenda, Saccarin, Acesulfame, or Stevia, your commentary is
at least slightly inaccurate. Also worthy of note, I'm a Type II Diabetic- I don't have the same
sorts of Insulin responses that other people do.
Aspartame is the ONLY substance to really do this thing. I consider that to be a potential problem
especially in light of HOW it tastes sweet to you.
If you stream, you owe the compulsory licensing- doesn't matter if you're streaming signed artists or not.
This is what they want. They don't want the venue to exist, so they'll get the government to tax the hell
out of it so it'll go away. I wouldn't mind helping my favorite internet stations pay the bill if I thought
that the money would go to the artists I listen to (All unsigned in the case of the stations- I like listening
to Celtic, Celtic Rock, and Renaissance Festival music on the streams. I don't listen to much else...) but
I know that this big spike in fees happens to go to the pockets of RIAA directly and then to the labels.
Not to the artists in question.
Not to someone who's at all a legitimate rights holder for the stuff in question.
Just to RIAA.
Tell me again WHY the radio stream providers have to do this?
They want this stuff off the air because they see themselves as being the gatekeepers of culture.
TurboTax has DRM that messes with your machine in ways that can trash it- in and of itself
that merits changing off of the product for a comparable solution.
TaxCut doesn't seem to do this and works completely correctly under WINE and CrossOver,
even down to printing the forms. I've done my taxes for the last 4 years without needing
to reboot into XP. No hassles once you've got the web foundation fonts installed in WINE.
It just simply works. It's not as good an answer as a native version of either tax program,
but I suspect you may be waiting another couple of years for that to happen. Why wait if
that's the only hold up for you?