For all we know linux could be very secure, we really have no way of finding out because scriptkiddies don't seem to be very interested in exploiting the publically available knowledge on identified (and of course patched) security problems.
Fortunately, Linux does not rely on script kiddies to do it's bug resolution.
I find it interesting and disturbing that you do.
You can actually get away with running an improperly secured&patched linux box for a very long time. Try that with a windows 2k server and you are asking for trouble. Yet both configurations are flawed and offer plenty of opportunities for a disastrous attack.
You can get away with it as long as the box does not have any network connection. You are seriously out of your depth if you think you can connect a Linux machine to the internet and leave it unpatched and hidden.
The security comes from the policy to patch and update not from any technological choices. I don't see any significant differences between the linux and windows communities here. So linux is not inherently more secure just less likely to be a target. Any good sysadmin knows this.
There are reasons why Linux enjoys popularity as an internet server application platform.
One would suggest that you do some research into the Linux security model, before posting such asinine bullshit to/.
Obscurity is not our policy. In your car analogy, Linux is the Mercedes, one notes that in Europe, there are far more Merc's than Pinto's.
Thank you for your humourous contributions, you've been a real pantload.
Linux is great, I use it and greatly appreciate what it can do. But for
most of us, it simply *CANNOT* replace what SCO ODT can do. I'm sure it will eat into SCO's market in some small relms, and hopefully enough to keep SCO on it's toes. Enough said.
Your DSL connection is there so you can play your games, download your p2p stuff, and use your isp's mailservers.
If you'd like to play with the big boys, and toss email, you'll need to play on the same turf. Take your tonka toy DSL connection and go play quietly in the sandpit for a while.
Cool, I'm in the same boat. Same deal. If the the box on my network is sending spam, it gets fixed. (read suspended, or detrojaned) Doesn't matter about the size of the isp or the "level" of complaint.
If the headers are correct, and show abuse, the hammer comes down.
I'm starting to think that some kind of law enforcement must be enacted.
Spammers actually steal.
They start by stealing your email address.
Then they steal some poor newbs box and send the filth.
Then they steal all the bandwidth from each and every isp who's borders are crossed.
They steal the fake from address, which ends up being listed on rfc-ignorant.org because the only way to stop the torrent of bounces is to refuse bounce messages.
They steal the privacy of the delivered trash with embedded web bugs.
They steal the time of good people who must install filters, or use dnsbl's.
They are stealing the very heart of the net. The good faith that the internet was founded upon.
So yes, by all means be proactive in stopping spam, enact laws which have teeth, and offer a truly positive approach to spam prevention.
Slashdot Mirror
It's this twat
Send him a message.
there is no sig.....
Fortunately, Linux does not rely on script kiddies to do it's bug resolution.
I find it interesting and disturbing that you do.
You can get away with it as long as the box does not have any network connection. You are seriously out of your depth if you think you can connect a Linux machine to the internet and leave it unpatched and hidden.
There are reasons why Linux enjoys popularity as an internet server application platform.
One would suggest that you do some research into the Linux security model, before posting such asinine bullshit to
Obscurity is not our policy. In your car analogy, Linux is the Mercedes, one notes that in Europe, there are far more Merc's than Pinto's.
Thank you for your humourous contributions, you've been a real pantload.
heh.
/tmp/nice_work
/tmp is interesting.
Go on, ls
You know you have to.
ls -la
Mod the above down as flaimbait.
This comment on that usenet post is priceless
ROFL
It has to be the most fucked html/javascript site on the net.
Your DSL connection is there so you can play your games, download your p2p stuff, and use your isp's mailservers.
If you'd like to play with the big boys, and toss email, you'll need to play on the same turf. Take your tonka toy DSL connection and go play quietly in the sandpit for a while.
We reject your residential ip mail now.
Your ISP has a perfectly good mailserver. Use it.
Just because you can do something, does not mean you should do something.
Get over it, Spam from residential ip's is a big problem, and we won't be changing our policy.
See http://dynablock.easynet.nl/errors.html
Lets just say you are spamming you fuckwit.
Cool, I'm in the same boat. Same deal. If the the box on my network is sending spam, it gets fixed. (read suspended, or detrojaned) Doesn't matter about the size of the isp or the "level" of complaint.
If the headers are correct, and show abuse, the hammer comes down.
So many glib fuckwits, only 9 shots in the 9mm.
Wait, that's nine less idiots who want to penalize the providers!
PENALIZE THE ABUSERS YOU FUCKWIT.
I'm starting to think that some kind of law enforcement must be enacted.
Spammers actually steal.
They start by stealing your email address.
Then they steal some poor newbs box and send the filth.
Then they steal all the bandwidth from each and every isp who's borders are crossed.
They steal the fake from address, which ends up being listed on rfc-ignorant.org because the only way to stop the torrent of bounces is to refuse bounce messages.
They steal the privacy of the delivered trash with embedded web bugs.
They steal the time of good people who must install filters, or use dnsbl's.
They are stealing the very heart of the net. The good faith that the internet was founded upon.
So yes, by all means be proactive in stopping spam, enact laws which have teeth, and offer a truly positive approach to spam prevention.
FRY THE THIEVING BASTARDS.
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list.
I know which one I'd rather listen to.
Vorbis rocks.
If only they'd bury IE as well.
Gnu
The Premiers website
t =R amsay
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http://www.sa.alp.org.au/people/people.html?sea
The Premiers email address.
mailto:ramsay@parliament.sa.gov.au
Mod this up quicksmart
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/28515.html