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Divx Now Adware Supported Only
bogomip_bandit writes "The divx codec is no longer free, no strings attached. Until recently, when downloading the codec from divx.com, one could select Dr Divx for a price, Divx Pro for a price, the divx codec for free, or the divx codec with bundled adware to help support divx development etc. Recently the site has changed. Now when one visits the download page, the only free codec you can download is adware supported. This means even to just watch divx movies and not do any actual enncoding, one has to install adware on their machine. I for one will be finding a different video codec." Sounds like a good reason (if you needed one) to look curiously at Ogg Theora. Update: 08/20 20:04 GMT by T : Correction: As several readers have pointed out, the bare codec is still available, it's just listed below the payware / adware versions.
Unless you use Linux, right?
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There is a link to download the divx codec (no cost) without the adware below the three main choices. the url is:
http://download.divx.com/divx/DivX505Bundle.exe
Go together like toast and butter. Looks like some of us are going to have to go out and find girlfriends now...
Roving Web-Teleoperated Robot
Thank you for venting.....this has WHAT to do with the Divx Codec again?
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Anyone volunteering to do for DivX what Kazaalite did for Kazaa?
You think you don't need to pay for things? Good luck with that.
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There's always ffdshow, a sourceforge project that includes both divx and xvid.
will not be surprised if this creates a slow move away from divx. The quality of divx is outstanding- but there are other codecs that are just as good.. and don't require me to pause my movie to close pop up ads.
Does anyone know how this will effect mac playback, a la by VLC?
whats this? ->Download the DivX codec (no cost)-
Well, that's all well and good, but alas, the pr0n websites continue to use DiVX. What are we to do?
On the linked download page, under the Dr. Divx/Divx Pro, in a normal text link it says "Download the DivX codec (no cost)" which is NOT the Adware version.
I think they use gator...the ulitmate evil adware.
Now if the damn greedy MPEG4 people would stop acting stupid and get the patent issue out of the way we could all use a truly open standard.
Instead, it seems like everyone is out to help Microsoft build WMT.
Having to scroll down a bit and click a text link is such a PitA...
what you get when you click that link named "Download the DivX Codec (no cost)"?
DivX is great and all, but... with all sorts of other (great) codecs out there, why do they think they can essentially charge a fee for using theirs? Just curious.
"Joan of Arc, up top!" - Ghandi, Clone High
I downloaded to confirm, no GAIN...
I think you might be missing something: Check here.
The codec itself is not adware supported. It appears the only thing they've changed is the layout of their downloads page - they've de-emphasized the free codec download, but it's still there.
That's really too bad. The divx player at divx.com was the only decent player I've seen that manages to properly play video created by mencoder.
Does anyone know of other options?
Jason.
Actually, nothing has changed. Divx Pro has always been either pay or adware supported. They just introduced Dr. Divx, whatever that is. The link to download the Divx codec is further down on the page, and is completely free, as always.
The page was changed to make it less obvious, and perhaps trick less-savvy users into downloading adware. But as you can see, 'Download the DivX codec (no cost)' is still available right under that. I downloaded it recently; it still includes the basic codec and DivX Player 2.0 just as always.
~ Aero
If all you want to do is to watch movies, try http://ffdshow.sourceforge.net/ Its a filter, not a codec, but it is faster and offers higher quality playback on all hardware, including nifty deblocking and deringing features.
Heaven forbid that the developers might want some compensation out of their efforts.
The Blaster Master Fighting for Truth, Justice, and Evil Pie since 1979
Oh well i use xvid anyways.
75% of all statistics are made up!
This will only help xvid and ogg theora, which is a good thing. DivX might be more fine tuned and official, but the majority of people won't want to install something with spyware regardless that programs like Ad-Aware and Spy Bot Search and Destroy can easily remove. Most people don't go around purposely installing Bonzai Buddy just so they have some other program working.
Oh well, XviD is gaining popularity as well as developmental features. Soon more people will be using XviD and Ogg for encoding.
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Well, not exactly ;) But the point is it's only the Win32 version that follows this 'pricing' format. Freed download of the 5.0.5 codec for Mac and Linux are still available.
...except Ogg Theora's quality blows chunks compared to Divx. Just use a well-documented (and legal!) registry tweak to disable the adware software.
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DivXNetworks, IIRC, closed the source on an originally open project. This is just the (albeit rather belated) final stage in their evil plans.
:)
Anyway, DivX sucks! I can't quite see why anyone would bother with it when XviD and FFMPEG are available, both offering vastly superior picture quality. Still, I suppose DivX has the most bullshit and adware, ergo greater end-user appeal...*sigh*
iqu
ermmm...bs, look at the bottom of three options you listed and you'll see "Download the DivX codec (no cost)"
(posting as AC because I just don't have account...)
Download and install the full-featured, adware-equipped divx codec. Then, run Adaware to find and remove all the Gator and other adware that is part of the divx package. All the divx with none of the crap!
How are you going to keep them down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus?
Well if they match the ads in the DivX Pro download to the most popular DivX content that will be a lot of "Increase your penis now" ads being shown ...
We all got hooked on Divx. The Divx people know it. It will take at least a year for the effects of this to reverse itself and for the Divx encoders/users to switch to another format. Let's hope the Ogg folks come up with a viable alternative, or hey... why not just stick with what we have now until we can reverse engineer it into a OSS clone?
put the what in the where?
Apple's Quicktime player is free, with no ad-support. All that Apple needs to do is fix a bug that would prevent them from playing divx files. Time to start flooding their forums!
This story is rubbish. There is still a free, non-ad supported version on that very web site you linked to above.
This is obviously a troll or FUD.
Interested to know whether the Slashdot editors validate incoming information to see if what the poster is stating has any truth to it.
<sigh>
Why not just use the VideoLAN Client?
It does a lot more than I will ever need it to.
It's easy to remove adware. Ever heard of ad-aware? So who really cares if they bundle ad-ware with it as long as you can just as easily remove said ad-ware? Stop whining and get over it already.
People uinsg DivX for watching movies are already freeloaders and guess what? they can also find full version of DivX codec without paying a penny. Bring on the warez!
You can still download the player codec for free, no adware. The *encoder* has been ad-supported for a while I think. They just shuffled the links around.
The codec download just moved right below. "Download the DivX codec (no cost)" still just gets you the codec with *no* adware at all. The three options on the top are Dr Divx(pay), Divx Pro(pay) and Divx Pro(adware). They moved the codec and player to the text link to make space for Dr Divx. That's all.
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The Codec itself is always free, you only have to deal with adware or paying money when you want to use their encoder/player software.
I never download anything but the free codec and use VirtualDub (www.virtualdub.org) for my encoding.
I installed the Dix codec the other day and found I had Gator installed on my laptop. I had installed only Visual Studio, Office, email, and other well known applications on a clean XP install. I was surprised to find Gator. This makes think it was the Divx codec that installed Gator like I suspected.
I went to Lava Soft to get ad aware. I removed Gator no problem. Also check, if you're using Windows, msconfig to see what is starting.
The submitter's comment that you have to download their adware to view the movies encoded in DivX isn't entirely accurate. DivX and a few other video codecs (including Xvid) generate MPEG-4 compliant video streams. Ffdshow is a DirectShow filter that can process any MPEG-4 stream for display (it cannot, however, be used for encoding).
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Most of the Movies I have downloaded recently use the 3ivx codec http://www.3ivx.com/
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Not sure if its any better than DiVX but it doesnt look any worse
From their faq:
Q: This is great. When will it all be finished so I can use it right now, like this minute? Please?
A: Ogg Theora was scheduled to go Beta (that means the bitstream is locked down, and all features are represented) in March of 2003. Obviously, that's slipped. Alpha 2 is going to be released shortly; but please remember that until Beta, there is no promise that files you encode will be supported in the final release.
Q: Can I use Theora to encode stuff right now?
A: Yes, but we strongly, strongly recommend against it, for anything but test-cases. This is not a full release in any sense of the word, it is simply a milestone, and if you start encoding things right away, there's a really good chance that it will break when you try to play it with tools we release when the final version is released.
What exactly will this mean for open-source video player vlc? Looking for Mac or PC support, or a web/database developer, in the NYC area?
I use ffdshow to view all my divx/xvid movies (under windows). It's free (no strings), faster, and supports multiple codecs. Of course for Linux, mplayer is the obvious solution.
Don't Slashdot staff check out news before it's posted? The original submitter must really feel stupid now since the free (no-adware) codec is still available and right there on the page!
My other sig is crap too
Well... I'm hearing conflicting information, but if this is true... Congradulations DivX, you have just sunk your own battleship.
# fuser -v
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I've not seen Ogg Theora in action, but I have seen xvid do wonders. I'm sure there are many other options.
The problem is just getting people encoding the video to realize what a pain in the ass it will be for the end user to view the video they are encoding. If they've been using divX, they're going to continue to do so especially if they've actually purchased the software.
i could not think of anything clever.
it's amazing that not even the submitter reads the article. At least he mentioned an open source project to get posted.
Way to go slashdot!
They hooked people, and then decided to start making a profit. People: Convert all your Divx movies to another format and never look back. This kind of thing should not be tolerated!
I look forward to some hacks removing the adware requirements from the codecs, or 3rd party codecs. I hope someone has the guts to do it.
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Isn't SOMEBODY supposed to check the articles, before they are posted to the front page?
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They "hid" the link for free divx in plain sight.
on
http://www.divx.com/divx/
under the links to purchase or download ad stuff, there is a big link that says "Download the DivX codec (no cost)" which allows you to download the codec...for free!
easy enough to do.
after installing divx..
Speak before you think
Check the link below the 3 main choices - called "Download the DivX codec (no cost)". That takes you to the following URL:
http://download.divx.com/divx/DivX505Bundle.exe
You can still get the non-ad version, they just made it easy for people to think they have to pay for it or get the ad-ware versions.
Cheers
Take a look at http://www.projectmayo.com/, their codec is multplatform and is free.
Privacy? Not in this lifetime.
Check it yourself, you obviously have a web browser...
Why do the Ogg people keep coming up with such stupid names? Ogg Theora? It sounds like a female character from a bad Star Trek movie. Ogg Vorbis would be her husband.
I mean seriously, what sounds more professional when you're proposing something to your manager: "We should use Ogg Vorbis!", or "We should use MPEG Layer 3". I know which one I'd rather be saying to my boss.
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I mean, it would take 3 seconds to check the validity of this! I can't believe crap like this gets through, and stories that are actually worth reading are rejected over and over again. I know its horribly off topic, but I only wish everyone would make their PHB's read the link.
Bogomip bandit does not have a keen eye for detail. Neither does Timothy for that matter. Jesus, how hard is it to read a webpage and find the link that says "Free codec download" or somesuch. I downloaded dvix the other day. I'll take Taco's spelling errors over Timothy's blatent lies any day.
They just changed the page layout, as many have pointed out.
So lets all just say stupid shit about SCO and M$ and see if we can get some cheap karma.
SCO and M$ are both gay! They are teh suck! Alan Cox will come back stronger than ever and smote them both with his super management abilities!
I think vi is pretty good for doing some stuff but I really like emacs! And KDE and Gnobe and blah blah
Oh yeah, I love my iPod, I think everyone should spend 500 bucks on a 50 dollar mp3 player.
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!!!
This whole story is bullshit, but I like the codec packs that give you a bunch tools in a compact package. I like the k-lite codec pack. Do a google seach. It includes divx amongst many others like xvid. You can select the codecs you want installed. Also includes bsplayer to play subtitled movies etc.
http://cutka.szm.sk/ffdshow/index.html
I have been using the ffdshow filter for DivX and Xvid movies for quite sometime. You cant encode to DivX with it, but it offers fully functional playback support.
Ive personally found it to be better to use Xvid for encoding files, but many things I download are still DivX (Matrix Reloaded DVDRip for example). With the ffdshow filter, you dont have to worry about adware, sorta negating "This means even to just watch divx movies and not do any actual enncoding, one has to install adware on their machine. I for one will be finding a different video codec."
I never did like this DivX Pro nonsense. Am I the only one to never make the jump from 3.11 ;) to 5.0? I tried installing it once on a new system but hated all the crap that came bundled with it as well as the idea to pay for it. AFAIK, (which in this area, admittedly isn't far) I still haven't found any files that I couldn't play. There are however alternatives. The Kazaa Lite codec pack is a good place to start, and it even included software to play Quicktime and RealMedia files without the attrocious software they come bundled with. Combine that with Media Player Classic and you have a robust, fully functional, and FREE media player under Windows, without the extra crap you don't need anyway!
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How can I use my mod points to rate this entire article 'WRONG'? :)
DivX 4/5 ist MPEG4 compliant, so you don't need the DivX 5 decoder to watch an MPEG4 stream whose creator happened to use the DivX 5 encoder..
It's an interesting idea.
First, you get the early adopter types to use it and spread it around by offering it for free. These same people start using it to encode movies, because they're techy types.
Once it hits the mainstream, offer multiple versions -- free, so that techies can still get it and propogate it, and ad-supported, so that nontechs who want the "extra" (ie useless) features will watch the ads.
Eventually it becomes so common within the mainstream community that you feel you can lose the free version -- the techies will move on to something else, or keep using their old free version, but the established mainstream use will keep growing -- and so will the ad revenue.
I don't LIKE it, but it certainly seems to have worked. Imagine how difficult it will be to wean our nontechnical family members to a new codec... "But you said DivX was better than all the others, and I don't care about the ads!"
This is the worst article ever.
its there on the page u fools
Download the DivX codec (no cost)
links to
http://download.divx.com/divx/DivX505Bundle.exe
what kinda moron submitted AND accepted this story into slashdot
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Ogg is for audio and Divx is for video compression. You can use all of them together. If you are searching for an alternative for compressin your video try xvid. Don't make chaos in video compression, use standard tools, please. (I hate to download movies and must to install new codec to my system just to watch one short film)
So something is good until someone starts trying to recoup the costs of their investments? Come on folks, get real. Codec development is costly, in addition, so is having it downloaded by millions. Perhaps if more people were willing to give back to projects they wouldn't be forced to do such.
scott
This reminds me of the real player. http://www.real.com/ - It's fun to watch someone find the real player. It's even more fun to watch that person get absolutely infuriated as the real player sets itself to load during startup and just be a general pain in the ass. Fun times.
no alarms and no surprises, please.
I wonder if I had used "Funny" as the subject line would I have gotten moderated as funny? Probably so. I just used Redundant because every post in this thread is the same thing, because the whole article is bogus.
Posting AC because I feel like it, bitches.
Who cares about divx these days anyway? Most of the content is released in xvid. Haven't seen divx releases lately. Besides, xvid is mpeg4 compliant.
I have a bridge for sale at bargain prices.
Dang, why can't the editors actually check the websites of submissions???
It looks a lot like this: Download the DivX codec (no cost)
Whoever submitted this story should be shot, along with the Slashbots, who are obviously not doing their jobs.
ELiTeUI
What does "look curiously" mean?
Why not just use mplayer?
I tried that and it decided to stop working because I didn't have Gator or whatever installed.
Ben
Work Safe Porn
ELiTeUI
You need to have a compiler that can make DLL's. Just create a program that exits as soon at it starts. Run adaware and compile it to a DLL. Copy and rename it to the ones adaware just removed. I can only get it to work with the decoder only. It won't work if you want to encode video.
hopefully it won't completely suck
hehe u r 1 optimistic mon
Self limiting. Its like you have the wonderfull product and you really want people to use it, but you give it an unfortunate name (Le Mans) and it flops. I doesn't matter that the name has nothing to do with the quality of the technology, it just wont get used. Seems like if the name is trivial then renaming it should the next issue (suggestions and voting on Slashdot!).
Quack, quack.
One question I've had for awhile. Does anyone know a good program to convert between the various Codecs? I've got a lot of AVI files that until recently were converted fine to Mpeg-1 (.mpg) for VCD burning. Now, the recent files seem to either have small flaws or a slight variation on the codec, so that my converter cannot grab audio and misreads the end of file (making files 2-3x the proper length).
Heck, if the tools at divx.com actually work properly to do this, I might just buy 'em. Otherwise, though, a cheaper/OS/free solution would be appreciated.
I met a sales exec for these guys at Internext in Florida at the beginning of august.
Keep in mind that he's at an internet porn convention..
Now, his spiel is that we should use DivX on all of our sites because it is "better" than WMV, and that they have an installed base of 80 million users. (He justified that by saying they have 80 million downloads.)
I said, sorry, as a paysite guy, WMV and MPG1 are good enough, and without an auto-codec download with WMP, DivX would never fly as a replacement.
I asked him why we would ever want to reencode all of our video in an additional format that has no benefits over WMV or MPG1. His answer was that it is "free" - I begin to think he is on crack.
He then goes on to tell me how DivX is the most popular format on Kazaa. (The place where we get our content pirated on)...
Then, after pressing, he admits this little gem:
"I'm sorry, we don't actually license our codec to the adult industry."
I'm sorry, WTF are you doing here again?
"So you'll give it to the people who pirate our content, but you won't license it to the content producers?"
"Yes."
You fucking moron. Expect DivX on fuckedcompany very soon, if it's not already there.
In the law there is no overlap between theft and copyright infringement whatsoever.
First he was responsible for the Decipher "book review" (where the reviewer gave away the whole story) and now this completely incorrect article.
Isn't anybody in the Slashdot ruling class paying attention to this crap!?!?!?
Am I right, here, people? Back me up, hah?
"A great democracy must be progressive or it will soon cease to be a great democracy." --Theodore Roosevelt
Excellent filter for decoding movies, but it has no encoding capabilities. As much as I like DVD, DivX gives me more bang for my buck when it comes to encoding home movies, captured TV shows for archival, etc.
I suggest the XVid codec for this. Ogg just isn't there yet.
ok, here's a rant; mod be into oblivion if you like, but i think some users will agree with me here.
windows media player seemed to be the best player for all kinds of video content while any linux player was, well lacking, mainly with codec support. i remember when windows media player would auto-download a codec and everything worked great.
lately, i'm having a hard time playing many video files in windows media player and the auto-download codec thingie is a freakin joke. i don't know how many different codec installers i've been thru trying to make sure all codecs are covered (god knows how much adaware software has been deployed on my xp machine in the process).
frustrated, i've turned to linux for video viewing. i installed mplayer with the gmplayer front end and the w32 codec file.
now, i can play any codec thrown at me. quicktime? windows formats? no problem.
also, there's no better satisfaction then when my friends say to me, 'hey, i can't seem to play this video file you gave me.. how did you see it?'
'with linux.' (did their job just drop? yep, it sure did!)
"Oh! Never mind...."
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actually, mplayer on os x is the ONLY video player worth dealing with when it comes to anything besides quicktime and real. For sure, it's the way to go with DivX/Xvid/etc. avis. Oddly enough though, Mplayer 2 is slower than Mplayer 1, at least when it comes to my G3.
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...has all the codecs and just the codecs. Also includes bsplayer, xvid, etc. Pick only the codecs you need. Small install. Works great. Latest version includes divx 5.0.5. Search google.
Posted by timothy on Wed August 20, 02:42 PM
from the neither-factual-nor-new dept.
I have been using the 3ivx codec for quite a while. (http://www.3ivx.com) and it is SO much smoother, you do not get that crappy mosaic (even in movies that had them with the divx codec), there is no adware, it is free, and it works on every platform. Old div3 and div4 movies look better then they did on the divx codec, they are smoother and sharper, plus I have noticed a lower load on the machine when they are playing.
http://www.3ivx.com
FFDSHOW is one Directshowfilter and plays em all:
XVid, DivX3.11, 4, 5, WMV, HUFFYUV, MPG uva...
Get it and forget about DivX...
"Life is short and in most cases it ends with death." Sir Sinclair
I have always been a huge fan of ffdshow. Open source, no adware, AND it's way faster than the official DivX codec. My aging P2 400 can watch most movies just fine with ffdshow. I'm really surprised people put up with DivX.
There's also XviD...
timothy takes it well. "As several readers have pointed out" is in the update. What he wanted to say was, "as several barking assholes have bitched, moaned, and puled about (rather than noticing that someone else already said it and leaving well enough alone)..."
Yeah, mod me down for my superglue-to-buttcheeks maneuver if you will, but I'm right. Christ, people fuck up sometimes, no reason to reason to fill the thread with, "Dur, the link's right there, dur the link's right there!"
is the scenes choice, DivX lost the edge years ago
YHBT YHL HAND
and you should be ashamed of yourself!
"If you don't like the distribution model, don't use the software, the argument for stealing it out of distaste for the distribution method instead simply doesn't hold water."
It does when discussing the RIAA/MPAA and P2P on Slashdot.
Install the codec, delete the adware.
It's easy.
This
http://download.divx.com/divx/DivX505Bundle.exe Please note that the links with the images on them say DivX Pro and Dr. DivX. DivX is still free, no adaware.
-illumina+us "I put on my robe and wizard hat..."
I was just at the divx site to get the codec (still available, just scroll down) so that I could watch the latest Red vs Blue (recently glazed my C drive to get rid of blaster and all the other crap on it). And then I hit the home button to see what's on /. This is some wierd mutation of RtFA.
Same reasons for me.
That's why I don't use Windows. I might check them in a year or two
pathetic
How can I use my mod points to rate this entire article 'WRONG'? :)
I don't think you can use mod points to carry out punishment. However, I couldn't help but notice that little asterisk by your name. You could always stop giving the editors money to post blatantly incorrect stuff like this. Who knows: perhaps that would make an even stronger statement than mod points.
Just a thought...
GMD
watch this
This is not correct. Just get the 3ivx codec which is currently $free (but not free as in speech) that plays DivX, XvID and 3ivx flavours of MPEG-4 encoded video and has no spyware. It's available on windows, mac, linux, beos and amiga. Get it - it includes both encoder and decoder, and on windows it installs an AAC (advanded audio coding) directshow filter so you can watch those MPEG-4 compliant videos with MPEG-4 compliant AAC audio streams in WMP. I never installed DivX on my machine but watch DivX video all the time thanks to this.
And I have seen comparisons showing that the post-filtering if 3ivx actually shows divx and xvid videos better than their own native codecs. YMMV.
(Note: Please don't quote the doom9.org comparison that said 3ivx encoding was terrible. This is only because the tester used terrible settings for the encoder since the 3ivx team did not respond to their request for good settings.)
I think this was just a test to find out how many /.ers actually RTFA. We all knew it wasn't the majority, but damn, this is sad.
Doesn't the correction make this a non-story?
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Does he even bother to fucking read what hes approving? Someone fire that fuck and who the fuck would pay /. for this shit?
its laughed at by the people that are ripping, nice effort but no one wants it and if your movie is encoded in it people will spend 15hrs transcoding it to XViD or divX than rather use it
Posted by timothy on Wed August 20, 02:42 PM
from the neither-factual-nor-new dept.
Hey, at least he didn't mark the story as archived this time! Is Timothy getting better? No, I didn't think so either.
Want to improve your Karma? Instead of "Post Anonymously", try the "Post Humously" option.
This Stupid POS ignorant article made it into slashdot?
i'd be more interested in learning how i can add this so-called "bogomip_bandit" moron to my foes list.
I didn't know they had an option to download just the codec! Unless I am mistaken, now I don't have to install the adware crap or their stupid player that I never use.
Besides, from what I can tell their stuff has contained adware for quite some time.
There's a file in one of the folders (Divx Codec i think) that contains a file "gain_trickler.exe" which is set to startup in the windows registry. Just delete the entry in regedit and delete or rename the file. (I'd give exact instructions, but I'm at work now with no access to the program...it's not hard to figure out though.)
It is absolutely shameful that this was posted. It is hard to believe that /. editors couldn't even be bothered to scroll through the entire download page to see that there is still a link for the fee codec.
That being said, this does show how vulnerable we are to "bait and switch" methods. Divx has been widely adopted because it was free. If all of a sudden we DID need to pay money or have adware on our PCs to use the newer version, it would cause problems.
"You spoony bard!" -Tellah
i cant believe that divx actually did that, if anyone really wants to download the non-adware version you can here: http://12.248.235.180/progs
Yeah, of course old non-adware versions of the divX codec will still be available for a while, but the point is that there won't be any new non-adware versions except the ones you have to buy.
XviD is a great alternative, which looks just as good as DivX (About 5mb per minute gets you very good quality if encoded properly. 10mb per minute is near DVD quality.)
It's completely free and GPL'd, and it's also already very popular, by my estimates its the second most popular codec, behind DivX, for the (ilegal) online distribution of movies and TV shows, unlike Ogg Theora which is completely unheard of fringe experimental codec that no serious group has ever used for a release.
XviD source code
Nic's XviD binary (best)
A divX digest page with links to several other, older XviD binaries
Repeal the DMCA!
We all got hooked on Divx. The Divx people know it. It will take at least a year for the effects of this to reverse itself and for the Divx encoders/users to switch to another format. ..to XviD. Also mpeg4, pretty much same quality if you ask me, and no strings attached. Of course, you still need your mpeg4 patent licence to use it for anything other than educational purposes. Then again, isn't watching movies educational? ;)
Kjella
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I do agree that authors should be paid for their efforts, but this is not the way to do it. The adware mechanism is Gator which only ends up stealing money from someone else. So while the DivX folks get paid for their work, someone else no longer does. This isn't fair.
One way to get around this is to just strip out the Gator stuff after installation. The absolute best program for this sort of thing is Spybot. This is a great piece of software. It searches and eliminates something like 10,000 keyloggers, hijackers, trojans, dialers, and all sorts of other things.
Here is a list of threats covered.
After downloading the Divx software, I ran Spybot and all the Gator stuff was removed.
After Timmy's little faux pas with this article - who is more hated? Him or that fucktard, Michael?
Who actually cares shit about DivX? We've had ffmpeg for some time! If you are honestly watching videos using windows system.. You need ffdshow directshow filter (yes, it's based on ffmpeg).
WHY are there headlines like this on the front page? For those who are looking for encoder, mplayer comes with the famous mencoder. If my memory serves me right, latest stable (pre-)release supports latest xvid and DivX encoding options.
-rzei
Talk about today's biggest non-story
why that would be winmodem(666) of course.
almost everIE gnu installation we do for the generous/disheartened (abandoned buy their felonious billyonerror 'heros') public, requires replacement of the modems in their PCs. no biggIE, we pay for them ourselves, in order to help their (the innocent/unaware/hostages) escape from the naykid furor's feechurn filled liesense scammag, less painful. kind of like convincing scared horses to not return to a burning barn. talk about being victims of ?pr? ?firm? scriptdead hypenosys. yikes.
so dick, whereis the drivers for the winmodems? or not?
Update: this is total bullshit.
NEXT!
Why does every story I ever submit get rejected, when they let shit like this through?
Ok honestly the codec is still freely available.. what makes a simple page redesign noteworthy.. there has to be something of better imprtance occurning in the world
The reasons I use mplayer and xine...
Using that codec under Windows always had wierd results, the video would freeze or start playing at 4x the speed if I seeked through the video a bit.
Also goes along great with ffshow is ac3filter for all those movies using this audio codec.
May this post be indexed by spiders, and archived for all to see as my Internet epitaph.
If you want to watch movies, this is the codec to use. Nothing even comes close. And, as conner said, it's open source :)
Don't forget about sucky Opera.
.. sleezy practices.
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
When divx went commercial, I stayed with version 4, Now I use Xvid. Ogg Theara is a definite possibility, but until they have an actual release, I'll stay with xvid.
Download VLC for Windows, Linux, or OS X
:)
www.videolan.org
That's all I have to say
"Things are more moderner than before- bigger, and yet smaller- it's computers-- San Dimas High School football RULES!"
well...ffdshow works fine for me and it can use upto 20% less CPU time for those who want to play divx on a slow system.
www.doom9.org has a link to it
What about DivX support in ffmpeg? What about XviD?
Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
The whole thing was proved incorrect anyway, so why keep it on the front page?
XViD is on the path to surpass DiVX, being rapidly developed open source.
Nothing is different for the end-user's experience. Encoding is a teenie bit more flakey than DiVX, but I'd expect it to have surpassed DiVX within a year in the quality/compression department.
Now only if we can drum up enough support to put Real and QT out of business. >:-)
http://www.xvid.org/
The point is people still look for "free as in beer" much more than "free as in freedom".
The fact is they could remove the ad-free version the moment you look away because they are not guaranteeing anything by, say, an OSS license.
Ugh, the ffdirect show version in the nimo codec pack has been causing people XviD hassles for ages... green playback screens, due to it not actually supporting XviD yet. Haven't checked recently, but I assume this has been remedied in the new version..?
http://www.real.com
can you find the free player?
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The Divx software is now adware only because users don't have the ability to scroll down to see the free and pay versions.
That the fucking free version is still there.
He's just a fucking homo loving little maggot who can't be bothered to stop jacking off for two seconds to find the proper link.
He better get his head and his ass wired together or I will take a giant shit on him!
Just think... If the DivX codec was only downloadable with adware, maybe less people would download it? This could have saved thousands of people from having to endure 'The Hulk', 'Charlies Angles II', and the rest of the "Summer Blockbusters" released this year. Please, put more adware in, my fingers are getting tired from text-messaging my friends bad movie reviews.
DivX (I think I got the caps right) was the pay-per-play, only licensed for 1 player DVD technology that Circuit City was pushing (fortunately, it flopped horribly). So someone creates a video CODEC that's pretty good, good enough to get widespread adoption, and they name it "DivX ;-}"!? That was a really good idea; no chance of confusing anyone with that name.
WMBC freeform/independent online radio.
Ok, bit of history lesson, from the way I heard it. Back in the day, DivX 4's dev team (Project Mayo) split up, half becomming what is now DivX, and the other half becomming what would later be called the XviD team.
:) )
:)
Basically, the DivX guys seem more concerned with becomming a closed source but open standard group right now, and making DivX into the next VHS/DVD type standard. XviD seems to be the flip side, free software, version of the coin.
(I should point out that this is just what I heard, and I've also heard things as absurd as that DivX is just a pirated copy of Microsoft's implimentation of MPEG4, and that SCO apparently owns UNIX, Linux, Florida, the plans to the Death Star, and my mother, so, grain of salt, eh? In other words, I might be off in my history lesson. but hey, that doesn't stop Bush, so why should it slow me?
AAAANYWAY. XviD is a MPEG4 codec, much ilke DivX (indeed, DivX and XviD can play each other's files) but XviD is completely open source, liscensed under the GPL.
So, if you are truely fed up with DivX -- and I don't see why you would be, they're just trying to make a living -- you could also go get XviD instead. It's still beta, but it's quite nice. Fast, Slightly smaller files, and has a lot of features DivX doesn't. (Like setting credits to encode in black and white, or in a much lower quality; or intelligently encoding part of the screen at different quality levels depending on how busy that part of the screen is)
Lately, one of the neat tricks I've seen is to use XviD and OGG audio, and combine them in some weird way. Insted of AVI files, you get OGM files, which are *much* neater. OGMs can hold more than one audio stream (English / Japanese, switch at will) and as many subtitles as you want, making them really much closer to the "nifty" factor of DVDs. But I'm no video editor, so someone else would have to chime in on OGMs.
Anyway. Go give XviD a try here. http://www.xvid.org/ If you can't compile you're own source, do a search on Yahoo for "Xvid Binaries" for user made binary installers. I like Koepi's or uManiacs for Windows, myself.
also, there's no better satisfaction then when my friends say to me, 'hey, i can't seem to play this video file you gave me.. how did you see it?'
;-)
'with linux.' (did their job just drop? yep, it sure did!)
You forgot to add: "Because I can't figure out how windows works"
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
This is yet another twist to the many different kinds of software that tries to get users to actually PAY for the product (and who can blame them?).
It used to be we have shareware - the pay-by-the-honor-system system. Then came the time-trial shareware, which expires after the trail period, then came the nag-ware, which pops up with windows reminding you to register your software, crippleware, which had features that were disabled or functionality limited, then came the adware, which allows you to use the software as long as you were willing to put up with seeing ads.
So now, if you combined these (in DivX's case, it's adware and crippleware - the free version has lower quality/less features), you get Distasteful-Free-Alternatives-Ware.
Of course, Open/Free software is ultimately better. I say they should combine more of these alternatives to really give us the choice! I think DivX should also add a full-featured (non-crippled) time-trial version, and a nag-ware version just to complete the whole set. Let US decide which one we want to be annoyed by before we finally give up and go to a free alternative or (gasp!) actually cough up the money and purchase the full version.
FYI, I purchased the pro version of DivX because quite frankly, I watch enough DivX5.05 video files for me to justify it. For me, it was good old shareware - the pay-by-the-honor-system system. Of course, I never considered the adware version even for a second.
NT = No text.
First T-Bag dicks up where Massey is (New Zeland, not AU) and now this. Ahhhhhhh... Jobber.
I noticed that someone already mentioned the ffdshow divx / xvid codec. I just wanted add that it is an excellent open source alternative to the Divx.com commercial codec. My own opinion is that ffdshow is superior. You can find it at:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow/
I've gotten great results using dvd::rip to rip dvd's and encode them to avi using xvid and playing them back on windows and linux machines using the ffdshow codec.
Even if the story was true - here's the way:
Doom9's Forum - DivX5 Adware summary
Two Worlds - One Sun [Spirit]
You want me to scroll down? Bah! Next you'll tell me that I can use your fancy scrolling to access old Slashdot articles. As if. I'll use the scrollbar when I can use it without a mouse. Just like those freaking arrows on my keyboard! Where are they pointing?? I think they're supposed to indicate north, south, and whatnot but I don't remember which way it was pointing when I bought it!
Damn computers. Why don't they just give up already, like those damn communist Nazis?
Wrong. Unless you use Linux/x86. Linux users of non-x86 platforms are not welcome:
And as you can see the source code is not available.Less is more !
no mention of Media Player Classic.
(original site is "under construction" so google it)
ffdshow (use the alpha above 10-10-02) has been mentioned, good.
don't forget http://betas.intercom.net/ and snag "Real Alternative" "Quicktime Alternative" and "K-lite Codec pack"...these should take care of all your video needs and playback is excellent.
(The QTA + MPC plays QT (mov) files better than QT itself. Of course that isn't saying much, as QT on a PC is shite).
If you can't find MPC by itself, it is IIRC, in the k-lite full.
I seriously dunno what happened to Divxpro after 5.03 but I was not impressed at all...trying to brighten up the picture with out burning my retinas out was impossible...with ffdshow, just right click in MPC, options, ffdshow and you have various fine grained options (just remember to check the box for the filter..doh!).
The level of control that ffdshow gives over divx5 is by far and away the deal breaker especailly for those of us w/o the latest and greatest CPU (dual 450@504 AGP TNT2 and dual 500 with PCI GF4 440Mx).
One word of warning for ppl with XP: to have MPC take over mov/avi files you have to fire up WMP9(?) and uncheck the DVD file type at the very least...does not make sense, I know at it drove me nuts for almost an hour. (BTW, No "set program access and defaults *DOES NOT WORK*...at all).
I've blathered on enuf. Hope this helps someone.
Have you read the moderator guidelines? Well, have you, PUNK? (and I want a Karma: Gnarly option)
divx used to be open source i think. they decided they were going to close it and start charging for it. i am pretty sure this is why the xvid project was started. in my opinion, this alone is good enough reason to not use divx, and to tell all your friends not to use divx.
this is from the xvid faq:
I certainly found it amusing to note that xvid is reverse of divx. I wonder if that's deliberate.
Yes, the name XviD is DivX spelled backward.
No one really knows why this name has been chosen. But some people may see in this backward spelling, the will to mark the ethical differences between the two projects.
DivX is proprietary software, with an opaque development cycle that follows only a commercial logic. XviD is Free Software (licensed under the GNU GPL), open to all contributions, its only aim is to stick to standard compliance.
Well, the modern stuff is clean, but the original version of DivX was a repackaged binary of Microsoft's MS MPEG-4 codecs from NetShow, hacked to enable them to work in .AVI file format.
.mp4 or .mov instead, like a real codec.
The current stuff is clean, of course. But stealing someone else's code and claiming it as your own work can be hard to live down.
Personally, my biggest problem with DivX today is that they're still using the lousy AVI file format. I wish they'd just use
My video compression blog
At least we'll only get sued for using Linux, rather than Linux and XviD.
IWARS.
People, in general, disappoint me. Politicians even more so.
Since when is divx.com the only place to obtain a copy of the Divx codec? Copies of the codec are everywhere.
If the folks at divx.com try to force adware down users' throats, they'll soon find that more copies of their codec are being 'pirated' than being downloaded 'legitimately.'
The cat's out of the bag and they can't get it back in.
Well of course it sucked for you you stupid git! It's because you don't have any brains in that empty skull of yours mate. Sorry, but it doesn't take me hours to get my Palm computer or scanner working with Linux. In fact it takes less time than it does with Windows and it actually works instead of acting like a silly twit. It's all about moving from one platform to another. Any Mac user will tell you how much it sucked to go from Mac OS to Windows if they were forced to make that change. That's because they are used to one way of doing things vs/ the Windows way of doing things. Linux is the same deal. If you are used to the Windows way of doing things, it's going to take more than a few weeks to adjust to the Linux way of doing things. Get fucked asshat.
Just a note: If you install www.3ivx.com on a windows machine, you DO NOT have to use it in Quicktime, even though it's a Quicktime plugin. The people over there (who are very nice and helpful on the fourms) have made it so you can run 3ivx/DivX encoded movs/avis in WMP. 3ivx does DivX, but DivX doesn't do 3ivx. Got it?
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I hope your palm works well, because you're never going to get a girlfriend.
Can see that it's false, and thus not freak out about DivX. A lot of people just glance the headlines, a few comments. A lot less actually dare clicking through to visit the page and check for themselves.
Wouldn't want to the robots to be mislead, after all.
Sure, lets just pick Ogg Theora or any other fringe codec, and make sure we change to a new one each week at a minimum. Of course, it will not play most of the stuff we have downloaded, or that we have already encoded ourselves, but who wants their codecs to actually be useful?
Could it be that this false claim that the free divx codec was no longer available could have been a deliberate attempt to promote the Ogg religion? It seems hard to believe that the submitter as well as timothy didn't read the referenced page.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
ffdshow works fine for my xvid decodes.
I use xvid too. However, ffdshow was only suggested as an alternative to the once free divx decoder.
There never was an ad-free encoder for divx5.
Don't just tack on a smaller font correction "sorry, was talking out my ass" while the large bold print still says "Divx no longer free".
Jesus.. stupid and wrong is one thing, but lazy and LIBELOUS is another.
"Spoon!"
Can't believe I forgot to mention that. *sigh*
I think the title says it all. Download the adware version, install, run Ad-Aware, and presto, you're good to go.
We should all be happy for this. And shame on those gator-pushing money grubbing bastards.
Can somebody check who owns DivX? IT seems to me that if the MPAA wanted to stop us copying movies, all it would have to do is make the only working version of the codec adware only... ...and none of us would use it...
Online Starcraft RPG? At
Dietary fiber is like asynchronous IO-- Non-blocking!
Another alternative is On2 ( www.on2.com )'s VP_ family of codecs. If you recall, VP3 is the basis of the Ogg Theora codec. It released VP3 extremely liberally, explicitly allowing others to profit from it or anything derived from it. Recently VP4 was released for "Personal Use". I'm not sure exactly what that means, but you _can_ download it and encode easily and quickly.
http://on2.com/vp4.php3
They currently sell their VP5 and VP6 codecs, which I feel are absolutely amazing. VP4 gets near DVD quality under a megabit, VP5 pwns VP4, and VP5 is a 40-50% improvement on processor foot print. Granted, I interned with them for a bit, but they truly do rock, even if I am biased.
www.olin.edu
Are feeling litigiuos.
Small print "Oh it's not true" do not protect you guys from Large Print responsibility.
Just take it down and smack timmy boi upside the head.
I know this a dupe, but it still raises some interesting points.
Like GIF and MP3 before it, it's a widely used proprietory technology. Where possible we should be making the effort to move over to a GPL'd alternative such as XVID or OGG
It's not beyond the realms of possibility that this change will take place in the future, and there will be no free/clean version. If this article has duped article writers and /. readers you can guarantee there will be countless numbers of laypeople (I'm so PC) who install the ad-ware version without realising there is a clean install available.
So what is that going to prove? That Linux is somehow better because you could watch a movie you gave them? Damn, if that one hits home you really have stupid friends.
It doesn't matter if it is true.
If someone sent me a movie and I couldn't watch it, and they told me "it works in linux" or mac, or BeOS, or whatever - I'm not gonna take that as if those are better and switch - I'm gonna take it that some stupid moron encoded the movie in some unknown border codec.
Just like I do when Mac users sent me sit files on my last job. Four mac guys and about 100 Windows/Linux guys, but they still used sit. I know how to open them, but I refused and asked them to use a standard format instead.
So tell me, how is the fact that a sit file don't open on my Windows box, but would on a Mac gonna convince me that the Mac is better instead of my notion that the Mac user is stupid or more likely, just ignorant?
Especially here on slashdot, standards are supposedly a good thing. So how come you get modded up for *not* supporting them?
OTOH, Windows Media Players sucks donkey balls. If nothing else because there doesn't seem to be any way to set the aspect ratio. Is there?
No matter how stupid, and potentially damaging the things those editors throw onto their front page, /. will not remove or change them, they'll just tack-on a small-text disclaimer to the end.
/. is slowly joining the super-market tabloid level of news integrity.
Pretty ballsy.
It's also one of the reason
Why does anyone still use DIVX? XVID is the real open source MPEG-4 codec.
Been xvid/ogg/ogm since early 2002.
Ogg Theora probably isn't quite ready yet being at the alpha2 stage and all. XVID is getting close to their 1.0 release.
Http://www.3vix.com/
I've had good results with their MP4 codec and they have a great support site
Http://www.3vix.com/forums/
My tests have been on OS X, win 98 and win 2000
- Zav - Imagine a Beowulf cluster of insensitive clods...
The download page used to have 3 options, all looking the same: pro for money, pro with ads, and basic codec for free.
Now there are still 3 options that all look the same, and a much smaller link to the basic codec underneath.
I don't know about everyone else, but when I just want to download something, I don't really read the text unless I have to. I just look for the big obvious download button for what I want, and from the layout of the page it wouldn't be too hard to miss it. The same goes for the editors. If you just give the page a once-over, the free download is easy to miss.
Don't know where you come from mate, but here it's toast and vegemite.
./ cultural differences are embraced. Sh!t, some people even eat marmalade.
But then on
Stopping myself...Abort (core dumped)
Bad move on there behalf... Ogg/Theora is just around the corner and it will own. Im waiting for the final release and then will be ripping my DVD collection to it. 3 to Ogg Vorbis/Theora/Icecast Benjamin P. Keating
I'm pretty disturbed by the fact that:
I mean, I know Slashdot isn't the New York Times. I know it's fun to laugh at the lousy jobs the editors do, and the lousy job the people submitting stories do, and how awful people's spelling and grammar are, but c'mon! This is getting ridiculous.
If OSDN can't afford to hire editors, fact checkers, or anything else, try to recruit volunteers! Do it like the moderation system. Allow random users to see stories that are about to be posted and fact check them. You could have "verified true" and "verified false", then "metaverification" to keep the fact checkers honest.
I'd be happy to check the facts and the grammar of a few stories a month for free, in exchange for others doing it the rest of the time. Isn't that the whole idea of Open Source? Many eyes, few bugs? One person's effort helping thousands more?
I beg to differ. There is a free, non-adware DivX encoder, however it does not have all the same features as the Pro version. Specifically (and most importantly, imo) it doesn't include support for encoding B-Frames.
You can see from DivX.com that the free, non-ad supported codec is:
"all the playback and encoding functionality necessary to watch and create DivX videos."
And having used it to create DivX 5 AVI files (albeit without B-Frames) and being an avid user of ad-aware, I can verify that it does work and it does not contain adware.
The last time I tried, DivX played Xvid movies like a bicycle on a freeway.
Maybe they should be compatible, but for now this is not the case. If anyone has problems or success the other way around, I am happy to hear from you.
3ivx is a free, and much less buggy divx codec:
http://www.3ivx.com/
Maybe to let people who read it before the correction know it was wrong?
occultae nullus est respectus musicae - originally a Greek proverb
*sigh* Ogg is a container. It is not a suite of codecs. Ogg contains Vorbis, and so on.
"Sufferin' succotash."
Of course, you could always use a better MPEG-4 codec that happens to be open source, like XviD, or ffmpeg. When I started ripping DVDs, I compared DivX 5.0.5 to XviD to ffmpeg, and IMO XviD provided the best quality (although all three are very close together ... ffmpeg was the fastest but lost some quality compared to the other two).
When you consider that XviD and ffmpeg are open sourced, why would anyone use DivX 5?? (of course, this is using *nix as your OS, but according to the ffmpeg homepage you can use ffmpeg under Win32 as well ...)
Yeah, a character name from Max Headroom definitely justifies it.
"Sufferin' succotash."
Mediainfo (Win32 only)
Nice right click identify & drag n drop interface.
http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/
...so video professional can get the format being used in a professional environment. The Apple QuickTime MPEG-4 component is shocking for anything over 320x240, 3ivx is dead in the water, and DivX is evil.
.mp4 MPEG-4 needs on Mac OS X, I use OpenShiiva. However, it's really designed for DVD .vob encoding, which is a real shame.
In the meantime, for all my XivD
A QuickTime XviD component will open XivD up to the pro world!
There's a new loser in town
As can be gathered from /. forum activity, 99% of all /.'ers do NOT read the fine print. Or the article at all.
For the sake of keeping the facts straight and so that nerds won't make wild assumptions and gossip to all their Linux troll friends (all two of them! "CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT ADS FOR THIS SOFTWARE@!?@ OMG!! WELL I CANT RUN IT ON LINUX ANYWAYS; GOTTA USE WINE, LOFL"), I recommend that this article be removed from the headlines page.
Is that good quality or bad quality? Or roaming unfettered quality?
-- it must be true, it's on the internet.
If you hate the adds, use the older one, lots of websites still mirror it, or get a crack damn it.
Liberty freedom are no1, not dicks in suits.
So the moral of the lesson is...don't read and understand the license. Then be surprised when what you thought, and the actual way it is disagree.
Then carry a boatload of anger for the rest of your life about people taking advantage of your naivety.
Heh! You'd think the gracenote incident would have taught people something.
Oh Well! To paraphrase: A fool and his code are soon parted.
Honestly. . .
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Does anyone use the codec from divx.com anymore? If so, now is as good a time as any to stop. Get FFDSHOW. It does a MUCH better job decoding divx/xvid files and its actaully free. .
Its by far way more compatible with files made by different encoders too. . . Not to mention how it plows through bad frames with ease.
Just install the adware supported one (it uses gator *cringe* ) and then kill the gator program off from running and then delete it off your pc. Your pc works just fine, and gator is only on there for all of 2 minutes until you nix it. :-)
Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know when your gonna get food poisoning.
Fuck you you fucking asshat motherfucker. That's always what you dickflaps come back to. If someone can deal with Linux better than you can, you wind up trying to disparage that person's abilities with their love life. Sorry, but that doesn't work on me. I don't need a fucking girlfriend because I've got a wife. And a hot one at that. So have at me motherfucker. Just because you're some pimply assed loser with no life who loves Windows, doesn't mean I have to be. I've got a damn cool life, with a sexy wife, and a great OS like Linux. Windows is for the average person and for failed "geeks". Get over it. You aren't a fucking computer genius. Big deal. Find out what you're better at and be that. But leave the real computing to the gorwn men.
Simple. It gives bored geeks something to rant about for a while... until the next SCO story comes up.
I now know about Theora and XviD which I have never heard of before. The latter I will now endeavor to use when possible.
Being this is a pro open source community and the topic is divx codec I think thsi would be a good time and place to ask this question.
I have recently moved to mandrake and am really enjoying it. (but still need to keep windows around explicitly to support my pocketPC,.. awful isn't it!)
One of my major functions on my computer is encoding my dvd backups. I would like to know of a reliable system closely resembling Gordian Knot rip pack.
Anyone got any suggestions for linux software for doing this?
Im going from 0 to drunk in $20
I'll give this guy the benefit of the doubt. I just downloaded the codec for my work computer (I goof off a lot, m'kay?) and it took me a good while to find it.
Reminds me of when RealNetworks started having a pay-version of RealPlayer. One of their site designs obsfucated it so badly that it took me well over 15 minutes to find the "free" link.
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I'd rather be flamed than ignored.
People really should pay more attention and investiage even the slightest bit before sending in stuff to Slashdot. Of course, slashdot should try to investigate the validity of such things when they are sen in. Unfortunetly if something like this slipped thru I'm going to have to add a bit more salt when reading slashdot. As if I didn't have enough already.
Will the guy who hacked Kazaa into Kazaa Lite please give us a little help? Thanks.
When I am king, you will be first against the wall.
There's nothing unfree about the GPL except that it doesn't allow GPL'd code to become part of proprietary code, which is really the only way to keep the code free anyway...
Repeal the DMCA!
It sounds like you are referring to adware Opera as spyware - or at least it might sound like it to others. Just in case anyone thinks it is: Opera is NOT spyware! It doesn't come with Gator or Digital Brilliance at all. It's got built-in ad support which doesn't spy on anyone.
Clever signature text goes here.
Obviously I was talking about groups that illegally distribute movies and TV shows, if you paid attention to the context. And by serious I mean groups that don't suck and have been around for a while, like TCF, Centropy, esoteric, etc. TMD doesn't count because they're a bunch of stupid script kiddies who dont know their ass from a codec and just reincode other people's releases into tiny mpeg2's that look like shit.
Repeal the DMCA!
ffdshow may not encode, but ffmpeg (the "ff" in ffdshow) certainly can. I use ffmpeg's libavcodec in mencoder (part of MPlayer) all the time. Both XviD and libavcodec are excellent MPEG-4 encoders and they continue to improve. The only advantage of the gratis DivX may be that MPEG-4 licensing is taken care of.
Though Theora isn't stable yet, VP3 is quite mature and it's Free Software and free to use, patent wise. I haven't yet seen tools to encode it on *nix, but there are Windoze and Mac ones.
To every slashdotter who uses XviD, it costs nothing because the binaries are downloadable for free. Let the developers worry about legal harassment from MPEG LA. You'll never have to worry about their attempts at charging you unless you download software that allows them to do that. To 99.9% of people who aren't anal retentive, it doesn't matter that the legal status is questionable. All people want is a good free (as in beer) codec. It's not like it can call home and tell the MPAA lawyers to send you a nastygram.
Repeal the DMCA!
XviD is a great alternative, which looks just as good as DivX (About 5mb per minute gets you very good quality if encoded properly. 10mb per minute is near DVD quality.)
I use XviD exclusively as my video format. If you haven't checked out dvd::rip it's hight time you do so.
Just run "perl -MCPAN -e shell" and "install Video::DVDRip". Gives you a nice GUI for dvd ripping that also provides you with a lot of information about what it is doing".
For the bitrate, use 0.25 bits of video data per pixel of video.
Example: If your video is 640x380 x 25fps, you have 640*380*25 = 6080000 pixels per second. Multiply it with 0.25 i.e. 6080000*0.25 = 1520 Kbps and that is the best level of quality/bitrate you will get for the compressed video.
echo '[q]sa[ln0=aln80~Psnlbx]16isb572CCB9AE9DB03273snlbxq' |dc
How about a slashcode fork? Untill slashdot gets their act together, a fork might correct slashdot in their obvious issues. This is open source right? It doenst mean OSDN can sit on their ass and expect false headlines to stay around.
Some people have every right to be pissed of at this moment.
Oh, I know the story is bullshit, but I'm a Slashbot, I'm not going to let boring old facts get in the way of decrying anything not pulled out of the puckered asshole of RMS or Lunis.
If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
Can someone please give me an friggin idiots step by step guide to get VLC running so I can stream one file from one machine to another... When I say idiot guide, I mean "put xyz in field abc" coz I just can't get it to work :-(
Two wrongs may not make a right, but three
Download and install adware version, reboot and run Spybot to remove the unwanted progs. Just ignore the warnings that removing adware may disable the software
Damn purple apes don't stand a chance...nor do aligators with nothing to gain. *groan*
...and that's the way the cookie crumbles.
...that RealOne does to you - a web site with the version you really buried in the fine print.
Does give you a good feeling about the company - especially since this guys used the open source community to start this off (Project Mayo) and then abandon it to start this business.
Traitors.
Or you could actually pay them for it.
I know, I know, heresy. I tend to agree.
The only software that should be charged for is the stuff that I write. At least until someone comes up with a free open source mortgage, open source health insurance, open source electric utilities, open source government that isn't tax supported, and last but not least, a free open source woman who doesn't live to spend my money.
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...we call that "vapourware".
"3ivx D4.1 will be out soonish with a new and much improved 1-pass algorithm, 2-pass encoding, optional ASP encoding features, and an optional kitchen sink."
I love the smell of vapor in the morning...
Been making OGM's for a while now (I was so damned impressed with them I re-rendered al of my DVD's into OGM's rather than AVI's).
BTW, OGM isn't just for Vorbis and XviD, it's a container format which can hold any number of streams, and has suport for much more stuff than AVI has - like you say, multiple audio and sub streams, DVD chapters, etc etc. It kicks ass, and works out of the box with my build of Xine and mPlayer, and with a bit of codec-fiddling in Media Player Classic.
If there's any movie encoders out there, give OGM's a whirl. I'm not sure how you render them in Linux (bah), I'm using VirtualDubMod for my encodes.
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I have not spent a lot of time messing with the streaming, but I have gotten it to work with some files.
/path/to/your/movies/movie.mpeg --sout udp://machine_name or ipaddress
On the server:
vlc
On the client:
launch VLC
File->Open Network Stream
Select UDP/RTP, leave port default (1234)
or you can look here
Have any of you actually used the ad supported version? Or have you all just avoided it like the plague?
Its a seperate program entirely. Just stop the process and delete the executable. My "ad supported" DiVX is no longer supported from my computer and its the pro version as well.
Nothing has changed. The Divx Pro encoder has always has two options: no $$ cost but adware supported, or 19.99$ no adware. The regular codec, used for regular playback, has always been free without adware.
For a free alternative to DivX, use XVID. Better quality, directly compatible, and perhaps mildly faster. Open source, of course.
-Billco, Fnarg.com
Fuck off bitch. So I made one fucking typo, big fucking deal assmunch! Better than your fucking excuse of a president Ronald Reagan. Your SIG should say something about how he was the greatest retard president since a lump of shit. And GW Bush is so much of a mental midget I thought he was basically braindead. Face the facts asshat, Linux rules, Windows sucks and you're a fucking twat. Now go get infected while someone bends you over and you take it like the girlie you are.
I can't believe this... Hasn't nobody realized that the so called "free" version (that so many ./'ers have linked from here) now displays an ad for Divx in the low right corner of the screen every so often in the begining of the movies that you play? Has nobody else seen this?. I have no option to turn this AD off, so i guess it fits pretty well as adaware now!
Everybody criticizes the poster and nobody goes to the lenght of downloading the codec, install it by themselves and see if it ad-ridden? Gosh...
"Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds !"