According to Ferrari's marketing department, there are 50 000 Chinese people with net worth's of more than 10 million USD (their target market). I've seen 3 Ferrari stores in Shanghai today, so I think they're serious.
There's some information...I guess missing from the replies to this (Me or my friends have bought hundreds in several provinces):
-The standard price of a DVD in China on the street or a dirty shop is 6 RMB (79 US cents), that gets a sleeve, hilarious attempt at the original box and silk screened DVD. They usually have all the extras stripped to fit on a DVD5 but they have english (the original) audio with Chinese (often Traditional) subtitles.
-VCDs/DVCD/SVCD (SVCD is a Chinese made format to compete with DVD) can be as cheap as 1 RMB, but are usually 2-5 (5 is too much). These are more of a crapshoot -- often they don't have the original audio.
-Same prices for porn, often with blurred bits or just still pictures
-You can barter, but apart from bulk discounts, it isn't common
-roughly 1 in 10 don't work. My regular shops take returns or let you preview them.
You're being to generous to the grandparent, I can assure him/her that China has a lot of problems but:
"In Communist China... you have to pretend you are a beggar. You can't walk around with modern clothing and a nice wristwatch."
WTF??? I was just in one of the dozens of cell phone stores by the KFC downtown and they have over 100 models -- because you just can't be caught dead with the same model as someone else. And I live in a dirty mid-sized Chinese city that the west hasn't heard of (Tai'an).
And "modern clothing" starts at 50 cents a piece here, where do you think it comes from anyway?
Man, some people are so dumb. It can't be done in Visual Basic, you need VB.NET. Unlike VB which is a meerly a superset of C++, VB.NET is a whole new paradigm shift and includes LISP portability through ActiveX. CPS and JVM are replaced with DHTML and CLOS multimethods are practically apartement model shared memory DLLs without null terminated string checking inefficiency.
Then your application could run in the Internet.
Honestly, get a MSCE then you're allowed to psot on slashdot.
Baidu means 100 degree or system, isn't that a play on Google (100 zeroes)?
I've never used the site (until Slashdot mentioned it searched MP3s) but I was reading a discarded magazine in a hostel in Beijing that was comparing the effectiveness of two major search engines' spyware campaigns -- not the morality, just the effectiveness of the business practice -- and just about every public computer I've seen is hosed with programs trying to redirect your query. As far as I know, that's not the kind of game Google plays, but I can't remember if Baidu was one of them.
Side note: Google.com is blocked maybe 10% of the time where I am, that can lose a lot of marketshare
Which means that the *worst* case is that we'd have to wait for them to start making them in China.
Personally, I can never seem to afford electronics until the Chinese are making them anyway, so it's a moot point for me.
As a side note, does anyone know how the idea of multiple keys for encryption works? I mean, how many can you possibly support and still have a fast enough algorithm.
I'd just like to take a little credit for all the work I and other English Teachers over here (in China) did in making sure that nobody here learns anything (at least in the fields that we controlled).
I seriously just graduated a class of 200 students, 150 of show would lose at Jeaopardy to pond mold:)
I'm guessing if your girlfriend got out of China, someone had to be rich, really smart, or really lucky.
I live in the industrial heartland of China, teaching future power plant employees. I've taught just under 300 so far and I can assure you that a *lot* of them are lazy and dumb as bricks (Did you know the schools charge higher tuition to students who fail the entrance exam -- guess which ass they'd rather have in the seat:).
What I hope I'm saying is that it's dangerous to assume that trends seen in the few that make it out of China (and Shanghai almost counts) hold for the rest of the population.
(p.s. There is construction all over campus here too -- because the stuff they built 2 years ago is falling apart already. I love my school.)
That's pretty pricey, considering the last NES knock-off I bought for 25 RMB (roughly 3 USD).
Of course I live in China, and one of them was dead on arrival (or they gave me the wrong power cord, I don't know).. and they didn't have wireless. But the girlfriend and I still logged many dozens of hours on Adventure Island 4 and Dr Mario (both on multigame carts that cost 4 RMB or 50 cents).
If these prove popular, maybe I'll start offering to send people grey-market NES clones from China.
Shameless plug: if you want a job teaching English in China: daveschina.com
Careful, "mathematically impossible" is a ridiculously powerful term. A 1:1 ratio is possible if everyone seeds exactly the same amount. For instance if everyone was in a circle, seeded one 10meg file and the next person over downloaded.
Of course with torrents, it's practically impossible for this to be even remotely realistic, since most seeds come from a tiny subset of the peers. But there's a lot of stuff that isn't out there that you can find easily in a library (like learning languages or cultural music) that there's unrealized demand for and there could be a lot more seeders than there are.
Prostitution is a victimless crime, whereas P2P eats babies and will make widows of your women.
It's all right here in this informational video the RIAA donated to my school...
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Come on folks, can't we all get along?
Seriously, try a triathalon; all of the benefits (and, I guess all of the disadvantages) AND you don't have to stop at the water. (There are duathalons too, if you can't swim - sometimes, with 100's of people in the water, the swimming is kind of scary).
I should've stressed socially left (this is an article on big brother, not tax cuts). Even fiscally though, no matter how right they might want to be, they're going to be restrained by the fact that BC-ers are lefties (and we love you for it, don't believe the National Post).
But you call bad grammar fairly, I meant that the Liberals lost 2 seats to infighting, not the NDP.
For the Americans reading this, the BC Liberals are to the left of every state you have. Calling them "incredibly right wing" is like calling North Korea a triumph of the market system.
They took over from the NDP, who are like your Green party, winning the province with a 73-2 majority (2 seats since lost to infighting).
Actually if this helps, think of British Columbia as California's communist college roommate.
Ok, that makes sense. But then can I say that we should focus on locking the apartment door? Or guard the encrypted passwords better?
By all means have passwords from hell for admins, but I can't imagine that once they've already managed to break-in either virtually to steal the password file or physically then they've moved past the point of needing office-assistant-jane's file-sharing password?
I doubt anyone will get down to reading this but too much of this discussion is being approached from the wrong side. A password of 2 simple english words (ie: treecat) would be enough to require a dictionary attack of 500 000 tries (1000 common words squared or better yet, 3 words for 500 000 000). Enough time that a dictionary attack could be detected because regular users alwyas give up after 12 or so failed tries.
If 12 failed attempts in an hour required you to call IT to reset the counter then 500 000 attempts now takes 40 000 hours or 40 000 calls to IT; either of these makes it unusable as a hacking route. Even a distributed attack would only get 12 tries an hour on jdoe's account. The worst side effect would be jdoe getting locked out while his account was being hacked (rather a DoS attack that way... which is a different problem and not my forte)
Why is attack detection not given more attention than making users remember noisy passwords?
There's no reason that the number of viruses would be proportional to the number of boxes. Each virus maker has to make the same decision, more boxes->faster spread->bigger infection. If you want the fame and the glory (or rather if this is what you consider fame and glory) it is *ridiculous* to ignore Windows boxen (hence the ~100% focus on them)
That said, there are probably enough Windows zealots who can code (if there are 20 times as many Windows-ers as Linux-ers/Mac-ers) that if there were an abundance of Apple holes *somebody* would take advantage of them just to knock the Mac-ers down a notch.
Aw crap, I think I'm too late for a post plugging my game (quick free airplane shooter).
So that's where they are: the store next door doesn't have any noodles with expiry dates between 2500 and 2000 BC.
Disclaimer: IAAIC (I am actually in China... and to be fair, we don't have stuff more than 2-3 years past expiration on the shelves).
According to Ferrari's marketing department, there are 50 000 Chinese people with net worth's of more than 10 million USD (their target market). I've seen 3 Ferrari stores in Shanghai today, so I think they're serious.
Let me be the first to say [No Carrier]
There's some information.. .I guess missing from the replies to this (Me or my friends have bought hundreds in several provinces):
-The standard price of a DVD in China on the street or a dirty shop is 6 RMB (79 US cents), that gets a sleeve, hilarious attempt at the original box and silk screened DVD. They usually have all the extras stripped to fit on a DVD5 but they have english (the original) audio with Chinese (often Traditional) subtitles.
-VCDs/DVCD/SVCD (SVCD is a Chinese made format to compete with DVD) can be as cheap as 1 RMB, but are usually 2-5 (5 is too much). These are more of a crapshoot -- often they don't have the original audio.
-Same prices for porn, often with blurred bits or just still pictures
-You can barter, but apart from bulk discounts, it isn't common
-roughly 1 in 10 don't work. My regular shops take returns or let you preview them.
hmm, maybe I should add that to my webpage
I think it was Colonel Adolphus Busch who said "You can only have sex 30 or 40 times a day, no matter how hot she is"
You're being to generous to the grandparent, I can assure him/her that China has a lot of problems but:
... you have to pretend you are a beggar. You can't walk around with modern clothing and a nice wristwatch."
"In Communist China
WTF??? I was just in one of the dozens of cell phone stores by the KFC downtown and they have over 100 models -- because you just can't be caught dead with the same model as someone else. And I live in a dirty mid-sized Chinese city that the west hasn't heard of (Tai'an).
And "modern clothing" starts at 50 cents a piece here, where do you think it comes from anyway?
Man, some people are so dumb. It can't be done in Visual Basic, you need VB.NET. Unlike VB which is a meerly a superset of C++, VB.NET is a whole new paradigm shift and includes LISP portability through ActiveX. CPS and JVM are replaced with DHTML and CLOS multimethods are practically apartement model shared memory DLLs without null terminated string checking inefficiency.
Then your application could run in the Internet.
Honestly, get a MSCE then you're allowed to psot on slashdot.
Baidu means 100 degree or system, isn't that a play on Google (100 zeroes)?
I've never used the site (until Slashdot mentioned it searched MP3s) but I was reading a discarded magazine in a hostel in Beijing that was comparing the effectiveness of two major search engines' spyware campaigns -- not the morality, just the effectiveness of the business practice -- and just about every public computer I've seen is hosed with programs trying to redirect your query. As far as I know, that's not the kind of game Google plays, but I can't remember if Baidu was one of them.
Side note: Google.com is blocked maybe 10% of the time where I am, that can lose a lot of marketshare
Which means that the *worst* case is that we'd have to wait for them to start making them in China.
Personally, I can never seem to afford electronics until the Chinese are making them anyway, so it's a moot point for me.
As a side note, does anyone know how the idea of multiple keys for encryption works? I mean, how many can you possibly support and still have a fast enough algorithm.
I'd just like to take a little credit for all the work I and other English Teachers over here (in China) did in making sure that nobody here learns anything (at least in the fields that we controlled).
:)
I seriously just graduated a class of 200 students, 150 of show would lose at Jeaopardy to pond mold
I'm guessing if your girlfriend got out of China, someone had to be rich, really smart, or really lucky.
:).
I live in the industrial heartland of China, teaching future power plant employees. I've taught just under 300 so far and I can assure you that a *lot* of them are lazy and dumb as bricks (Did you know the schools charge higher tuition to students who fail the entrance exam -- guess which ass they'd rather have in the seat
What I hope I'm saying is that it's dangerous to assume that trends seen in the few that make it out of China (and Shanghai almost counts) hold for the rest of the population.
(p.s. There is construction all over campus here too -- because the stuff they built 2 years ago is falling apart already. I love my school.)
That's pretty pricey, considering the last NES knock-off I bought for 25 RMB (roughly 3 USD).
Of course I live in China, and one of them was dead on arrival (or they gave me the wrong power cord, I don't know).. and they didn't have wireless. But the girlfriend and I still logged many dozens of hours on Adventure Island 4 and Dr Mario (both on multigame carts that cost 4 RMB or 50 cents).
If these prove popular, maybe I'll start offering to send people grey-market NES clones from China.
Shameless plug: if you want a job teaching English in China: daveschina.com
Careful, "mathematically impossible" is a ridiculously powerful term. A 1:1 ratio is possible if everyone seeds exactly the same amount. For instance if everyone was in a circle, seeded one 10meg file and the next person over downloaded.
Of course with torrents, it's practically impossible for this to be even remotely realistic, since most seeds come from a tiny subset of the peers. But there's a lot of stuff that isn't out there that you can find easily in a library (like learning languages or cultural music) that there's unrealized demand for and there could be a lot more seeders than there are.
I think you're missing the obvious distinction:
Prostitution is a victimless crime, whereas P2P eats babies and will make widows of your women.
It's all right here in this informational video the RIAA donated to my school...
Come on folks, can't we all get along?
Seriously, try a triathalon; all of the benefits (and, I guess all of the disadvantages) AND you don't have to stop at the water. (There are duathalons too, if you can't swim - sometimes, with 100's of people in the water, the swimming is kind of scary).
Not yet, but we're modifying a Slackware distro to run on the 64-bit WMD's, and we have a complete browser that runs on an ancient C-4 canister.
The real prgress has been getting Debian to recognize the ports on Osama Bin Laden's Dialysis machine.
I should've stressed socially left (this is an article on big brother, not tax cuts). Even fiscally though, no matter how right they might want to be, they're going to be restrained by the fact that BC-ers are lefties (and we love you for it, don't believe the National Post).
But you call bad grammar fairly, I meant that the Liberals lost 2 seats to infighting, not the NDP.
For the Americans reading this, the BC Liberals are to the left of every state you have. Calling them "incredibly right wing" is like calling North Korea a triumph of the market system.
They took over from the NDP, who are like your Green party, winning the province with a 73-2 majority (2 seats since lost to infighting).
Actually if this helps, think of British Columbia as California's communist college roommate.
Relax.
French is dying (Netcraft confirms it)
This is why we need the death penalty in Canada.
She could be out and sharing again in time to go to University. We need to get sickos like her off the street,
Won't somebody please think of the children!
Ok, that makes sense. But then can I say that we should focus on locking the apartment door? Or guard the encrypted passwords better?
By all means have passwords from hell for admins, but I can't imagine that once they've already managed to break-in either virtually to steal the password file or physically then they've moved past the point of needing office-assistant-jane's file-sharing password?
I doubt anyone will get down to reading this but too much of this discussion is being approached from the wrong side. A password of 2 simple english words (ie: treecat) would be enough to require a dictionary attack of 500 000 tries (1000 common words squared or better yet, 3 words for 500 000 000). Enough time that a dictionary attack could be detected because regular users alwyas give up after 12 or so failed tries.
If 12 failed attempts in an hour required you to call IT to reset the counter then 500 000 attempts now takes 40 000 hours or 40 000 calls to IT; either of these makes it unusable as a hacking route. Even a distributed attack would only get 12 tries an hour on jdoe's account. The worst side effect would be jdoe getting locked out while his account was being hacked (rather a DoS attack that way... which is a different problem and not my forte)
Why is attack detection not given more attention than making users remember noisy passwords?
There's no reason that the number of viruses would be proportional to the number of boxes. Each virus maker has to make the same decision, more boxes->faster spread->bigger infection. If you want the fame and the glory (or rather if this is what you consider fame and glory) it is *ridiculous* to ignore Windows boxen (hence the ~100% focus on them)
That said, there are probably enough Windows zealots who can code (if there are 20 times as many Windows-ers as Linux-ers/Mac-ers) that if there were an abundance of Apple holes *somebody* would take advantage of them just to knock the Mac-ers down a notch.
Ugg, I am so sick of this type of thinking.
Durgs - Blame Canadsa
Trrerorists - Blame Canadsa
now we're being blamed for the pyramids?