As an American, I would be quite happy to leave the rest of the world alone, except they seem to keep trying to blow us up. Howabout we all just keep to ourselves and stop bombing each other?
I concur- I work in one of the big 6 consulting firms, and HR often comes to our team (networking, telecomm) to help interview potential hires. You wouldn't believe the attitudes of the people that come in and say "I have an MCSE!" and just glow about it. Of course, nearly zip in real experience. (Best story: older guy comes in to one of our job fairs, just got his MCSE but no experience in computers ever, and when I told him that he didn't fit any of our openings, he asked if we needed a janitor! I really felt bad for that guy, though) Now, people who come in and detail their experience and maybe throw in the MCSE at the end, they are the people that you want.
Ah, by using a Mac you/them only have to pay for any MS products you use. Macs have alternative software that cost between 0-10% of MS Office, with the same functionality.
With MS, you have to pay for every single machine, even if you don't have MS on that machine. With a Mac, you only pay for what you buy. With the new Mac server, you pay ZERO for every client you have; compare that to the client prices for any MS client software.
I just have to assume that you just don't know enough about Apple and their hardware/software policies. They are super educational friendly.
I don't disagree with your arguments, but I would like to add that admin costs would creep up the cost (except if the admin would do it on his/her own time, which seems to be the standard in education.)
I just wish that ed would grasp that Apple is 200x more edu friendly than MS. Linux is also a good choice, but Macs have that user friendly aspect. The whole thing is just crazy.
They pay for it up front, but if I fail it (as I now fear) I have to pay them back! That is 1 month of salary for me, not chump change, if you know what I mean.
Or when in doubt, just remember the Navy ship that totally crashed when Windows BSOD.
Which is worse- MS claiming that it would be bad to disclose their code and possibly compromise the OS, or just plug it in and have a multimillion ship need a tug into port?
I'm a consultant (hiss, boo), and we and our clients place more emphasis on degrees than on certs, unless the person has proven experience in that field. As long as you don't use certs as a gimmick, then they are ok, but too many people have used them in the past just to get the letters.
In IT, there is only one rule- know what you claim to know. If you don't know it, be honest and say you don't but you will learn it, and you are willingly to put in extra hours to learn it. (But only say that if you are willing to actually do that) That's how I got my job- I didn't know the stuff they wanted (I was straight out of college), but I seriously said I would learn whatever they wanted, and I did.
End statement- no longer is there a shortcut to quick bucks now, you may actually have to work now.
Ok, degrees are good. Certifications are good (except for MS certs, they are the equivalent of memorizing the state capitals). But spouting all kinds of letters at any HR or IT person is just that- spouting. If you have a Novell cert and have no Novell experience, guess what, no impact.
Base point- don't bother getting a cert in something you have no experience in or have no near-term expectation of getting experience in.
I once interviewed a guy who just got his MCSE and came to our job fair. When he didn't fit any of our offerings (IA, networking, RF), he said he would take a janitor's job if available!
Face it kiddies, the dot boom is gone, and you may just have to work a little bit to get a good job. By good job I mean something besides being a 8-5 drone.
Ok, I did not read the article, so if I'm wrong on some points, you know why.
I'm an Army contractor, and all of their critical systems are all Solaris based. Thus proving that the Air Force and Navy are just a little bit dumb. (sorry, had to jab that) Now, if any defense company said to the military that its product was so flawed that it couldn't give the gov the source code, it would be rejected and the company sued. Basically, if the gov hadn't whored themselves out to MS there would be much smackin' goin' on. This stance may just be enough to get sued just by these statements.
Same thing happened in our showing when Yoda did the Neo move, but when he got funky.... everyone was "Holy shit!", "hell yeah!", "oooohhhhhh!".
If after multiple movies refering to Yoda being a great Jedi master, and people are surprised by this (even after all the leaks), you just are not a fan. Anyone ever consider Yoda and his cane just to be an act? Or a convienence?
By far the best fighting scene, and I would never fuck with that green goblin... oh, wait wrong movie, that Jedi Master.
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Once I got my own apartment after college, I piggybacked on my parent's AOL account for a while. Back then AOL had a long distance phone deal of 8 cents/minute, not bad for the time. So I signed up with a credit card. Use it for about a year, then got a better deal with someone else. Called AOL Phone service, asked to be disconnected, they said ok. Get billed again next month from new company AND AOL. Call up and ask to be canceled, they say ok again. Next month, the same thing. I call the credit card company and dispute the past 3 months, I do the paper work yada yada. They told me that "Yeah, AOL is really bad on this. We get a lot of calls about them." For 3 more months AOL keeps charging me, and I get the charges reversed through the cc company. Then, I got three more months of charges, but the cc company automatically reversed the charges. It was on my monthly bill! A month passes, and then I get a bill due notice from AOL I somehow still owe them $40 bucks. I call them, they give me some bs about processing fees and inter-LATA fees, so I told them to fuck themselves. Somehow next month my long distance and inter-LATA service was totally dropped. Hmmmm?
Exactly, though I would soften the hard line a bit. When you write an OS, it would probably be impossible to code totally bug free code, no matter how much testing you did. The problem here is to define a parameter where the bug crosses into the penalty phase. A minor bug that crashes your system shouldn't be cause for fines, but something like the Melissa virus probably would. Stupid errors were automatic actions like VB scripting are the default should be penalized. Not plugging known security gaps should be penalized. But no one deserves the title of engineer when they release a product with 60k known bugs! "Yes, this bridge works pretty well, even though it has 60,000 structural cracks."
Oh, and we should just believe some AC that puts forth zero sources to back up his claim? Why is it wrong? I'm not claiming he is, because I know zilch about him, but if you want to claim something, back it up with some proof, please.
I have your solution- tunnel your SNEAKERNET on the SUPER-SECRETNET! First we had black helicopters, now we have black sneakers. Bow down to the masters!
Unfortunately, depending on exactly where in the 5 GHz band it is in, you may still run into interference from some military stuff. Of course, most people will never have this problem, but it could happen. Sorry I can't elaborate.
The only other provision I would put in, which I believe that the US already has, is the ability of the judge to automatically judge a case as frivolous. Currently, I believe the case is just thrown out, with no chance of appeal. I would add that the bringer of the case would have to pay for everything, also.
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Where the hell are my mod points when I need them!
It seems people only say smart things when I have no points! Aaarrggg!
As an American, I would be quite happy to leave the rest of the world alone, except they seem to keep trying to blow us up. Howabout we all just keep to ourselves and stop bombing each other?
I concur- I work in one of the big 6 consulting firms, and HR often comes to our team (networking, telecomm) to help interview potential hires. You wouldn't believe the attitudes of the people that come in and say "I have an MCSE!" and just glow about it. Of course, nearly zip in real experience. (Best story: older guy comes in to one of our job fairs, just got his MCSE but no experience in computers ever, and when I told him that he didn't fit any of our openings, he asked if we needed a janitor! I really felt bad for that guy, though) Now, people who come in and detail their experience and maybe throw in the MCSE at the end, they are the people that you want.
Ah, by using a Mac you/them only have to pay for any MS products you use. Macs have alternative software that cost between 0-10% of MS Office, with the same functionality.
With MS, you have to pay for every single machine, even if you don't have MS on that machine. With a Mac, you only pay for what you buy. With the new Mac server, you pay ZERO for every client you have; compare that to the client prices for any MS client software.
I just have to assume that you just don't know enough about Apple and their hardware/software policies. They are super educational friendly.
I don't disagree with your arguments, but I would like to add that admin costs would creep up the cost (except if the admin would do it on his/her own time, which seems to be the standard in education.)
I just wish that ed would grasp that Apple is 200x more edu friendly than MS. Linux is also a good choice, but Macs have that user friendly aspect. The whole thing is just crazy.
It is also in a padlocked file cabinet behind a door marked "Beware the leopard".
Which one is the left button on a Mac mouse? :)
They pay for it up front, but if I fail it (as I now fear) I have to pay them back! That is 1 month of salary for me, not chump change, if you know what I mean.
Or when in doubt, just remember the Navy ship that totally crashed when Windows BSOD.
Which is worse- MS claiming that it would be bad to disclose their code and possibly compromise the OS, or just plug it in and have a multimillion ship need a tug into port?
I'm a consultant (hiss, boo), and we and our clients place more emphasis on degrees than on certs, unless the person has proven experience in that field. As long as you don't use certs as a gimmick, then they are ok, but too many people have used them in the past just to get the letters.
In IT, there is only one rule- know what you claim to know. If you don't know it, be honest and say you don't but you will learn it, and you are willingly to put in extra hours to learn it. (But only say that if you are willing to actually do that) That's how I got my job- I didn't know the stuff they wanted (I was straight out of college), but I seriously said I would learn whatever they wanted, and I did.
End statement- no longer is there a shortcut to quick bucks now, you may actually have to work now.
Thanks, my confidence is now dropping...
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I'm taking the CCNA exam in June.
They want me to get my CCNP next spring.
Now I'm scared. Thanks a lot!
Ok, degrees are good. Certifications are good (except for MS certs, they are the equivalent of memorizing the state capitals). But spouting all kinds of letters at any HR or IT person is just that- spouting. If you have a Novell cert and have no Novell experience, guess what, no impact.
Base point- don't bother getting a cert in something you have no experience in or have no near-term expectation of getting experience in.
I once interviewed a guy who just got his MCSE and came to our job fair. When he didn't fit any of our offerings (IA, networking, RF), he said he would take a janitor's job if available!
Face it kiddies, the dot boom is gone, and you may just have to work a little bit to get a good job. By good job I mean something besides being a 8-5 drone.
Ok, I did not read the article, so if I'm wrong on some points, you know why.
I'm an Army contractor, and all of their critical systems are all Solaris based. Thus proving that the Air Force and Navy are just a little bit dumb. (sorry, had to jab that) Now, if any defense company said to the military that its product was so flawed that it couldn't give the gov the source code, it would be rejected and the company sued. Basically, if the gov hadn't whored themselves out to MS there would be much smackin' goin' on. This stance may just be enough to get sued just by these statements.
And can you see the same lament 5-7 years from now?
100 GB HD -> 2 TB HD
DVD-RW -> something new
100 DVDs -> 100 something new
Same thing happened in our showing when Yoda did the Neo move, but when he got funky.... everyone was "Holy shit!", "hell yeah!", "oooohhhhhh!".
If after multiple movies refering to Yoda being a great Jedi master, and people are surprised by this (even after all the leaks), you just are not a fan. Anyone ever consider Yoda and his cane just to be an act? Or a convienence?
By far the best fighting scene, and I would never fuck with that green goblin... oh, wait wrong movie, that Jedi Master.
Once I got my own apartment after college, I piggybacked on my parent's AOL account for a while. Back then AOL had a long distance phone deal of 8 cents/minute, not bad for the time. So I signed up with a credit card. Use it for about a year, then got a better deal with someone else. Called AOL Phone service, asked to be disconnected, they said ok. Get billed again next month from new company AND AOL. Call up and ask to be canceled, they say ok again. Next month, the same thing. I call the credit card company and dispute the past 3 months, I do the paper work yada yada. They told me that "Yeah, AOL is really bad on this. We get a lot of calls about them." For 3 more months AOL keeps charging me, and I get the charges reversed through the cc company. Then, I got three more months of charges, but the cc company automatically reversed the charges. It was on my monthly bill! A month passes, and then I get a bill due notice from AOL I somehow still owe them $40 bucks. I call them, they give me some bs about processing fees and inter-LATA fees, so I told them to fuck themselves. Somehow next month my long distance and inter-LATA service was totally dropped. Hmmmm?
Bastards.
Exactly, though I would soften the hard line a bit. When you write an OS, it would probably be impossible to code totally bug free code, no matter how much testing you did. The problem here is to define a parameter where the bug crosses into the penalty phase. A minor bug that crashes your system shouldn't be cause for fines, but something like the Melissa virus probably would. Stupid errors were automatic actions like VB scripting are the default should be penalized. Not plugging known security gaps should be penalized. But no one deserves the title of engineer when they release a product with 60k known bugs! "Yes, this bridge works pretty well, even though it has 60,000 structural cracks."
Oh, and we should just believe some AC that puts forth zero sources to back up his claim? Why is it wrong? I'm not claiming he is, because I know zilch about him, but if you want to claim something, back it up with some proof, please.
And not hiding behind an AC would also help.
I have your solution- tunnel your SNEAKERNET on the SUPER-SECRETNET! First we had black helicopters, now we have black sneakers. Bow down to the masters!
Unfortunately, depending on exactly where in the 5 GHz band it is in, you may still run into interference from some military stuff. Of course, most people will never have this problem, but it could happen. Sorry I can't elaborate.
I must admit that your trolling skills are mighty! You now dwell in my top 10 troll list. Hai!
Nah, it's not that bad- just wave some shiny things (Spiderman, Episode 2) at them and they will all go "ooooooh, aaaahhh!"
If only I had mod points...
The only other provision I would put in, which I believe that the US already has, is the ability of the judge to automatically judge a case as frivolous. Currently, I believe the case is just thrown out, with no chance of appeal. I would add that the bringer of the case would have to pay for everything, also.
It also hurts to read simpleton's flames. All caps and "leet-speek" is pretty friggin' old. At least I have enough balls not to AC.