It's fascinating how many people have latched onto the ethics issue... It would be interesting to see how many of them have nothing but fully paid for or legally free software and music on their computers.
Nah, its politically correct bullshit. The media has been bitten too often by failing to mention the $NONAMERICAN identifier that many American's think of themselves as, that they now do it reflexively.
In the local paper's websites comment section - I've seen the $NONAMERICAN's bitch and moan and try to have it both ways. If the paper mentions a $NONAMERICAN was drunk and caused an accident, they bitch (as you do) that the paper is racist for implying $NONAMERICAN's are drunks. But let a $NONAMERICAN be positively mentioned (Say, winning a local business award) and they bitch about the paper being racist if they fail to mention the subject is a $NONAMERICAN.
This is the third census I've participated in as an adult, and the fourth for which I was old enough to pay attention to the media/hype around it. And in each and every one, wingnuts from all over the political spectrum have crawled out from under their respective rocks and foamed at the mouth over the government intrusion into private lives.
Give it rest guys. Your claims don't stand up to a moments dispassionate scrutiny. The interment camps were nearly seventy years ago. We've learned since then.
Even if the parts are individually cheaper, it still costs to handle and install them. So a lower parts count can really matter.
And while there are fewer things to go wrong, a dynamic stabilization system is pretty simple as such things go and don't require any sophisticated tools to troubleshoot or repair.
The last thing I need is for people to walk into my house and see me sitting on my couch wearing some goofy looking glasses.
Only two people outside of my wife and I have keys to my house*, and are thus likely to just walk in** - and both are friends of decades standing. Neither would care about me looking 'goofy'.
If you don't want people 'just walking in' to your house, lock you're friggin' door.
* They often care for our pets when we are away. Because it made things simpler I finally just told them to keep the keys on the principle that if I couldn't trust 'em to have the keys to my house they wouldn't have the keys in the first place.
Photoshop currently sells at a "lightweight" $700. How many photos would I have to edit to make that cost effective?
That depends on how you cost out the value of being able to make quality edits. I.E. using 'cost effective' here is really a case of "those words not meaning what you think they mean".
It entered the land of exclusive pro tool years ago.
Hobbyist woodworkers routinely drop close to a grand on major equipment. (My table saw cost around $800, and it's high mid range at best.) I needed some upgraded cooking equipment for Thanksgiving (a big deal for me), so I dropped over $200 just on a knife and a roasting pan. My neighbor, who is an amateur racer, just dropped over a grand buying a car he's going to rebuild. Decent semi-pro cameras run $500 and up...
If I was more seriously into photography, I'd consider full on Photoshop, but a decent camera and Elements suffice for my needs.
Maybe it's too expensive for you, but serious non pros routinely drop significant cash into their hobbies. It's a market that's faltering in the current economic conditions, but it's there none the less.
Send everything, checksum it and then flash? If something goes wrong (solar wind) is there a very basic firmware that sits and listens?
Probably something like:
Verify the hell out of the code on an emulator.
Verify the hell out of the code on the engineering testbed (a rover computer sitting on a table).
Verify the hell out of the code on the engineering development rover (a real rover at JPL running on various simulated terrains).
Send everything, twice. Compare one copy to the other. Checksum each copy received twice. Send the checksums to Earth twice. After receiving the enable and execute codes (which have protections of their own) from Earth, flash it from data storage into firmware. Checksum the firmware twice. After receiving the enable and execute codes from Earth (which have protections of their own), transfer control to the new software (keeping in mind the OS is robust and has various protection features of it's own to prevent apps from bricking the computer and limited protect against trashing the rover).
Seriously, the only people who take validating the code and the authority to execute it more seriously than NASA are the guys at the launch control consoles out in the missile silos and SSBNs.
But they don't beat NASA by much. NASA's unmanned branch does take lessons learned pretty seriously (they've bricked probes before), and when the budget allows does things the right way.
All the upgrade inconvenience of a laptop with none of the advantages.
If it turns out that this C64 + a large monitor is cheaper and a large screen laptop, that could be a huge advantage and potentially popular among the people who buy laptops because they're more compact than desktops.
The design had good reason back in the 80s, but not so much now
On the contrary. Many people buy laptops, but basically never move them from their desks except to dust, because they bought them to save space and get rid of the spiderweb of cables on and around their desktop. They'll be attractive to POS resellers for the same reason.
It's a niche product for sure, but that's a different matter from having no reason to exist at all.
It's like being friends with a bully and joining the gang. You go around and help the bully. And then one day, the bully smacks you down in front of others reminding you he's the leader. Only then do you call the bully out for his aggressive nature. It's complete fucking BS and the fact that so many are buying the story is pathetic.
So who is the bully here - Brin and Google or China? I can make your analogy fit both ways.
As to your second paragraph... Well, I'll just keep reminding myself that all kinds of people get the same civil liberties I do - including free speech. But I do find it decidedly disturbing when someone enjoying those liberties makes excuses for denying them to others.
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Murdering your neighbor or stealing his lawnmower aren't quite the same thing either, but that doesn't mean they aren't both unethical.
The problem is, Google hasn't actually left China - they're still doing business there.
It's fascinating how many people have latched onto the ethics issue... It would be interesting to see how many of them have nothing but fully paid for or legally free software and music on their computers.
When it's the choice between starving and working telemarketing (I've been there), it's pretty easy to toss ethics overboard.
It's also pretty easy to play all high and mighty and ethical when you're not faced with that choice.
Nah, its politically correct bullshit. The media has been bitten too often by failing to mention the $NONAMERICAN identifier that many American's think of themselves as, that they now do it reflexively.
In the local paper's websites comment section - I've seen the $NONAMERICAN's bitch and moan and try to have it both ways. If the paper mentions a $NONAMERICAN was drunk and caused an accident, they bitch (as you do) that the paper is racist for implying $NONAMERICAN's are drunks. But let a $NONAMERICAN be positively mentioned (Say, winning a local business award) and they bitch about the paper being racist if they fail to mention the subject is a $NONAMERICAN.
They can grow mushrooms indoors now that we have that wonderful invention 'heating'.
Huh, that's weird. The world doesn't revolve around you and your likes and dislikes. (Or your faulty notions of how Twitter is used.)
Yeah, comparing apples to oranges is so useful.
Seven words: "Comparing apples to oranges is never useful".
ROTFLMAO. You have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
the paranoid and the conspiracy theorists grow ever more detached from the real world.
Paranoia and FUD don't keep us safe, exactly as the boy who cried wolf failed at his task.
Not only has the bear not been seen, the automatic defense system has never been activated. Not once.
Paranoia and FUD are poor reasons to keep doing something.
This is the third census I've participated in as an adult, and the fourth for which I was old enough to pay attention to the media/hype around it. And in each and every one, wingnuts from all over the political spectrum have crawled out from under their respective rocks and foamed at the mouth over the government intrusion into private lives.
Give it rest guys. Your claims don't stand up to a moments dispassionate scrutiny. The interment camps were nearly seventy years ago. We've learned since then.
The Kingdome,
With the huge number of websites out there, and with Wikipedia's outage yesterday... That "service unavailable" is a trending topic, proves little.
That you fail to call something by it's proper name, does not change it's nature.
Even if the parts are individually cheaper, it still costs to handle and install them. So a lower parts count can really matter.
And while there are fewer things to go wrong, a dynamic stabilization system is pretty simple as such things go and don't require any sophisticated tools to troubleshoot or repair.
Only two people outside of my wife and I have keys to my house*, and are thus likely to just walk in** - and both are friends of decades standing. Neither would care about me looking 'goofy'.
If you don't want people 'just walking in' to your house, lock you're friggin' door.
* They often care for our pets when we are away. Because it made things simpler I finally just told them to keep the keys on the principle that if I couldn't trust 'em to have the keys to my house they wouldn't have the keys in the first place.
** Not that they ever have of course.
Lower weight, lower rolling friction, probably a lower parts count, probably cheaper to manufacture.
Maybe, maybe not.
There's no alternative for the software either, other than the less capable GIMP or theft. So I don't see what your point is.
That depends on how you cost out the value of being able to make quality edits. I.E. using 'cost effective' here is really a case of "those words not meaning what you think they mean".
Hobbyist woodworkers routinely drop close to a grand on major equipment. (My table saw cost around $800, and it's high mid range at best.) I needed some upgraded cooking equipment for Thanksgiving (a big deal for me), so I dropped over $200 just on a knife and a roasting pan. My neighbor, who is an amateur racer, just dropped over a grand buying a car he's going to rebuild. Decent semi-pro cameras run $500 and up...
If I was more seriously into photography, I'd consider full on Photoshop, but a decent camera and Elements suffice for my needs.
Maybe it's too expensive for you, but serious non pros routinely drop significant cash into their hobbies. It's a market that's faltering in the current economic conditions, but it's there none the less.
Probably something like:
Seriously, the only people who take validating the code and the authority to execute it more seriously than NASA are the guys at the launch control consoles out in the missile silos and SSBNs.
But they don't beat NASA by much. NASA's unmanned branch does take lessons learned pretty seriously (they've bricked probes before), and when the budget allows does things the right way.
If it turns out that this C64 + a large monitor is cheaper and a large screen laptop, that could be a huge advantage and potentially popular among the people who buy laptops because they're more compact than desktops.
On the contrary. Many people buy laptops, but basically never move them from their desks except to dust, because they bought them to save space and get rid of the spiderweb of cables on and around their desktop. They'll be attractive to POS resellers for the same reason.
It's a niche product for sure, but that's a different matter from having no reason to exist at all.
So who is the bully here - Brin and Google or China? I can make your analogy fit both ways.
As to your second paragraph... Well, I'll just keep reminding myself that all kinds of people get the same civil liberties I do - including free speech. But I do find it decidedly disturbing when someone enjoying those liberties makes excuses for denying them to others.
Ah, the mating call of the terminal idiot. Having been proven wrong multiple times, he just repeats his claim - again.