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Photoshop CS5's Showpiece — Content-Aware Fill

Barence writes "If you're looking for reasons to upgrade to Photoshop CS5 when it arrives, a new demo video might just persuade you. Narrated by Bryan O'Neil-Hughes, a product manager on the Photoshop team, the video shows the new content-aware fill tool, which has the potential to revolutionise the way you clean up photos. If you're not happy with an item in your picture, select it, delete it, and Photoshop will analyse the surrounding area and plug the gap as if it never existed."

378 comments

  1. Damn..... by ogdenk · · Score: 4, Funny

    Stalin would have just loved that content-aware fill tool.....

    1. Re:Damn..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      Any government would love it, considering that every government engages in self-serving exploitation of power. Hell, there's probably not an hour that goes by where somebody, somewhere in the business of government does something to benefit themself at the expense of the people they are supposed to serve.

    2. Re:Damn..... by carcosa30 · · Score: 5, Funny

      So would Hitler, especially the part where the guy "removed a couple of Poles."

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    3. Re:Damn..... by spikeb · · Score: 1

      hahaha

    4. Re:Damn..... by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      See, the people AC was talking about got mod points and tried to hide the truth. Proof!

    5. Re:Damn..... by Zarluk · · Score: 1

      I was about to write the same... someone mod parent up, please ;-)

    6. Re:Damn..... by Low+Ranked+Craig · · Score: 1

      Not sure why this is modded funny. It's true. And so would the CIA, Homeland Security, most police departments, the current president, the prior president, etc. In other words, just about anybody in a position of authority in any government wants this, not to mention corporations, unions and Mrs. Kravitz across the street...

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    7. Re:Damn..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Godwins Law already? Jeez...

    8. Re:Damn..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Reminds me of this old story:

      Content-Aware Image Resizing
      http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/25/1835256

    9. Re:Damn..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So would Hitler, especially the part where the guy "removed a couple of Poles."

      L O L

    10. Re:Damn..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well he could hardly remove a single Pole.

    11. Re:Damn..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So would Hitler, especially the part where the guy "removed a couple of "million" Poles."

      Fixed it for you.

    12. Re:Damn..... by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

      Stalin would have just loved that content-aware fill tool.....

      "What Cosmonaut? I don't see any Cosmonaut."

    13. Re:Damn..... by mobby_6kl · · Score: 1

      You know, this was Stalin's favorite part as well.

    14. Re:Damn..... by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      It's funny because Stalin very blatantly had photos doctored when he stopped being friendly with someone.

    15. Re:Damn..... by AmigaMMC · · Score: 1

      just about anybody in a position of authority in any government wants this

      That's not true! I'm not in a position of authority and I want it!

    16. Re:Damn..... by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      I think Hitler had PS beat to this goal, he had a much simpler tool and when the bodies are removed, you can never really tell that the picture was photoshopped !

  2. Altered reality? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cool! Maybe I can use it to create a picture of me with a girlfriend so my mom will get off my back!

    1. Re:Altered reality? by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, no. Goodbye to all my exes in my vacation photos. Stupid real dolls blocking the scenery.

    2. Re:Altered reality? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's sad, really. I'm guessing you never had emotions for those girls... evar?
      Captcha: intimacy

    3. Re:Altered reality? by timothy · · Score: 1, Funny

      Why don't you just erase your mom from those pictures? ;)

      timothy

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    4. Re:Altered reality? by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 1

      Goodbye to all my exes in my vacation photos. Stupid real dolls blocking the scenery.

      You seem to have a... unique... relationship with your binaries. I rarely even photograph mine.

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    5. Re:Altered reality? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's up with your karma, bro?

    6. Re:Altered reality? by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      That's sad, really. I'm guessing you never had emotions for those girls... evar?
      Captcha: intimacy

      When it comes to exes, especially the bad ones, it is very common for all said emotions to be replaced by contempt, hostility, and loathing.

      You may never have dated someone you were, eventually, sincerely glad to be rid of. We don't all have your good luck in dating.

      (Yeah, yeah. This is slashdot, no one here ever dates, blah blah tired meme is tired)

    7. Re:Altered reality? by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      When it comes to exes, especially the bad ones, it is very common for all said emotions to be replaced by contempt, hostility, and loathing.

      You may never have dated someone you were, eventually, sincerely glad to be rid of.

      Amusingly I skipped the whole dating part.

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    8. Re:Altered reality? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, that was a joke about /.ers not having human girl friends and going on dates with their real dolls instead: http://www.realdoll.com/ (Do I really have to point out that it's NSFW?)

    9. Re:Altered reality? by moonbender · · Score: 2, Funny

      My binary is an ELF! It was different before, but that's a.out.

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    10. Re:Altered reality? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it was a joke about girlfriends being useful only while they provide pussy, and if they get too bitchy to be worthwhile then they are just blocking scenery.

    11. Re:Altered reality? by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      No, it really wasn't. Don't why the above was AC, but it was me, the guy who posted the original.

  3. Re:STOP! by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wouldn't call this an ad. This is legitimately really fucking cool.

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  4. Early preorders are already in from by sir_eccles · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Fox News and the Texas board of Education.

    1. Re:Early preorders are already in from by CheeseTroll · · Score: 1

      Heh - is there a plug-in that inserts dinosaurs into the background of caveman photos? (nevermind the minor issue of not having photos from the prehistoric era)

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    2. Re:Early preorders are already in from by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Fox News and the Texas board of Education.

      I don't think it will work on text or video and besides, it's been easy to clone in dinosaurs since version 4.

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    3. Re:Early preorders are already in from by gknoy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Video is just a series of still pictures, that need to be interrelated. I'm certain that this could be applied to video, with enough processing power. If they can look at pixels that are neighboring in one frame, they can do it for pixels that are neighboring in time, too.

    4. Re:Early preorders are already in from by fm6 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm reminded of the episode of Oz where somebody tries to tell a White Supremacist that Jesus wasn't white. He pulls out his bible and points to an illustration...

    5. Re:Early preorders are already in from by meatplow · · Score: 1

      already exists and has been in use by film professionals in removing "minor" dirt, scratches, and other for many years. Draw a box around the artifact and **poof** its gone - quite successfuly with some operator experience.

    6. Re:Early preorders are already in from by Neoncow · · Score: 1
    7. Re:Early preorders are already in from by wal9001 · · Score: 1

      True, but that's probably a few years off. Oh wait, it's in After Effects CS5.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCr96ldClz4#t=6m

    8. Re:Early preorders are already in from by bgspence · · Score: 1

      Connelly Barnes at Princeton University, who did the "PatchMatch: A Randomized Correspondence Algorithm for Structural Image Editing" SIGGRAPH paper used by Photoshop:
      http://www.cs.princeton.edu/gfx/pubs/Barnes_2009_PAR/index.php

      has some nice video research here:
      Video puppetry: a performative interface for cutout animation:
      http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1409077

  5. Damn by __aaelyr464 · · Score: 1

    When I took a basic digital image processing class in college, we learned some of the basics of image processing (really more segementation than anything). To think about the complexity and sheer power needed to do this...just blows my mind. Truly impressive.

  6. I'm convinced! by e2d2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Photoshop currently sells at a "lightweight" $700. How many photos would I have to edit to make that cost effective? It entered the land of exclusive pro tool years ago.

    1. Re:I'm convinced! by thewils · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It entered the land of exclusive pro tool years ago.

      It entered the land of bittorrent download and piracy years ago.

      There, fixed it for you.

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    2. Re:I'm convinced! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People pay for Photoshop?

    3. Re:I'm convinced! by santax · · Score: 1

      No worries mate, the high price is something any pro will happily cough up. They don't care about you and I using it a home. That is only good cause when we go to work, we want the boss to buy a license ;) Besides, Photoshop just IS the best. And yes I know Gimp too :')

    4. Re:I'm convinced! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hasn't it always been like $700? That means it's always been an expensive pro tool. And because of inflation, the relative price has actually gone down gradually over the past couple decades!

      dom

    5. Re:I'm convinced! by maxume · · Score: 1

      How much is each edited photo worth to you?

      Also, do you attach a great deal of value to $700?

      More seriously, of course it did, $700 is not all that much for someone making or paying Western wages, so they will pay it if they need it to do business (i.e., if they think they will earn at least $700 more by purchasing it than if they did not purchase it), whereas personal users still aren't going to be that large a market at $200.

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    6. Re:I'm convinced! by couchslug · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "It entered the land of bittorrent download and piracy years ago."

      Terrific viral marketing. No one who downloads it would have bought it with own funds, but many will do so with company money. Adobe allowing "controlled leakage" is the best free marketing campaign since Office 97 went from workplace "to the house" and back again.

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    7. Re:I'm convinced! by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      I can still get "education" pricing on it for $199.00 and any fool can get an education copy bought for them. Who cares about "technically legal" I got a license key and the box and it updates, that's all that matters.

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    8. Re:I'm convinced! by metamatic · · Score: 1

      If it's like any of the other fancy healing tools, it'll make its way into the $99 PhotoShop Elements. The existing magic healing brush did.

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    9. Re:I'm convinced! by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 1

      $700 is not all that much for someone making or paying Western wages

      I must be making Eastern wages then, because $700 has long since crossed into the if not major certainly not minor purchase category for me. When you exceed 1% gross annual income (And $70k isn't a small salary) that IS a significant purchase.

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    10. Re:I'm convinced! by e2d2 · · Score: 1

      Well honestly I do think $700 is a lot for me. Although I make a great living, one doesn't keep his wealth by spending it frivolously. For a business it's a no-brainer, it's a great tool for the pro. But for me? It's not worth it. I'd rather just download paint.net and use the features I can get for free. But that's just my take. Obviously it's worth something to someone otherwise they'd be out of business. Don't mind me, I'm just being cantankerous.

    11. Re:I'm convinced! by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 1

      When that 1% is what enables you to make the other 99%, it's not as big a deal. As others have noted, Photoshop is primarily a professional tool.

    12. Re:I'm convinced! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A lot. And if you happen to edit a lot, then it is worth it. I'm designing a first person shooter, which involves creating many many textures, photoshop is very well worth it for me.

    13. Re:I'm convinced! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      The price is not high for "pro". $700 for a completely updated application, that's about a day's rate for a "pro" in IT, or an hour for a "doc". Home users obviously don't need CS level image manipulation, they've just got used to a "mate" getting them a "free" copy.

    14. Re:I'm convinced! by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      Why is Gimp always brought up when talking about Photoshop competitors? There are atleast a dozen programs that score better than Gimp.

      I understand the near future will take Gimp out of the domain of "programmers-who-like-to-do-graphics" and into the domain of professional graphicians, so there may still be a chance for it yet.

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    15. Re:I'm convinced! by westlake · · Score: 1

      Photoshop currently sells at a "lightweight" $700. How many photos would I have to edit to make that cost effective?

      That would depend on your talent, experience, reputation and resources as a photographer - and how well you understand the market for your work. But you could recover the cost of Photoshop in a dozen or so small sales, at say, $50 to $100 each.

    16. Re:I'm convinced! by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      Photoshop currently sells at a "lightweight" $700. How many photos would I have to edit to make that cost effective?

      That depends on how you cost out the value of being able to make quality edits. I.E. using 'cost effective' here is really a case of "those words not meaning what you think they mean".
       

      It entered the land of exclusive pro tool years ago.

      Hobbyist woodworkers routinely drop close to a grand on major equipment. (My table saw cost around $800, and it's high mid range at best.) I needed some upgraded cooking equipment for Thanksgiving (a big deal for me), so I dropped over $200 just on a knife and a roasting pan. My neighbor, who is an amateur racer, just dropped over a grand buying a car he's going to rebuild. Decent semi-pro cameras run $500 and up...
       
      If I was more seriously into photography, I'd consider full on Photoshop, but a decent camera and Elements suffice for my needs.
       
      Maybe it's too expensive for you, but serious non pros routinely drop significant cash into their hobbies. It's a market that's faltering in the current economic conditions, but it's there none the less.

    17. Re:I'm convinced! by oldspewey · · Score: 1

      How many photos would I have to edit to make that cost effective?

      How much do your clients typically pay you for an average sized design job? The answer to your question could be anywhere between 1 and 100.

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    18. Re:I'm convinced! by santax · · Score: 1

      The Gimp is brought up because a lot of people say it is just as good as PS. And I just tend to disagree. Nothing wrong with Gimp, maybe even the best free suite, but it's just no PS-killer -yet.

    19. Re:I'm convinced! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Photoshop is primarily a professional tool.

      Nonsense. How many of us use it for touching up vacation snapshots or pictures of pets?

      What you're trying to say is that legally licensed copies of Photoshop are "professional tools".

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    20. Re:I'm convinced! by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 1

      $700 is not all that much for someone making or paying Western wages

      Whoa, dude. It's definitely a decent sum depending on a lot of factors (what you do, where you live, etc). I make a pretty good amount for my area at $35k/year... but $700 would be pushing two weeks' net pay for me (net pay is $970 atm, with taxes withheld and insurance premiums and such).

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    21. Re:I'm convinced! by cynyr · · Score: 1

      have a list? that run on linux/OSX/windows?

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    22. Re:I'm convinced! by rodrigoandrade · · Score: 1

      > No worries mate, the high price is something any pro will happily cough up.

      Everyone loves throwing that line around, but I've yet to meet a professional designer (freelancer or otherwise) who's paid for Photoshop, let alone "happily."

      I suspect the $700 pricetag is Adobe's way of offsetting some of the losses incurred by piracy. Better that than SecuROM, I guess.

    23. Re:I'm convinced! by westlake · · Score: 1

      Photoshop currently sells at a "lightweight" $700. How many photos would I have to edit to make that cost effective? It entered the land of exclusive pro tool years ago.

      Photoshop isn't a tool for the point and click digital photographer with his $250 Canon.

      But in the "prosumer" market you can begin by spending $1,000 on a camera body alone. Cost effective to the amateur photographer at this level translates into less time spend in the digital darkroom.

      He may also make the occasional sale at $50 to $100.

    24. Re:I'm convinced! by lwsimon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Indeed. Adobe doesn't make their money on hobbyists. They don't even really make their money on small shops. They make their money on mega corporations who buy a dozen licenses because they need to crop photos, and their employees all know how to do that in Photoshop, because they've pirated every version since 5.5.

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    25. Re:I'm convinced! by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Photoshop currently sells at a "lightweight" $700. How many photos would I have to edit to make that cost effective?

      One. That's why I have a legit copy of Photoshop.

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    26. Re:I'm convinced! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you use Photoshop professionally (and are worth your salt) youre hopefully charging at a minimum $50 an hour. so not that long, actually.

    27. Re:I'm convinced! by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Everyone loves throwing that line around, but I've yet to meet a professional designer (freelancer or otherwise) who's paid for Photoshop, let alone "happily."

      Greetings. I'm a 3d artist that does texture and post work, and I have happily paid for Photoshop and upgrades. My colleagues that do freelance have also paid for it 'happily'. You may now tick off that "haven't met any professionals' checkbox. :D

      I suspect the $700 pricetag is Adobe's way of offsetting some of the losses incurred by piracy.

      No. We pay that amount because it is an effective tool that we make money from. My copy of Photoshop paid for itself easily within the first gig I did. You could partially blame its successs on vendor lock-in. Most of my clients give me Photoshop files and expect modified ones back. But it's not like it's aching for features. It's easy enough to get the results of other 2d apps into Photoshop with little to no hassle, but it's not often I find a need for that.

      Try to keep in mind that photo editing isn't the only thing it does. The big money comes from image creation, and that's why there are gobs of people happily paying for it.

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    28. Re:I'm convinced! by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      Whoa, dude. It's definitely a decent sum depending on a lot of factors (what you do, where you live, etc). I make a pretty good amount for my area at $35k/year... but $700 would be pushing two weeks' net pay for me (net pay is $970 atm, with taxes withheld and insurance premiums and such).

      That depends on how you look at it. If you work in a field where Photoshop will save you two man-weeks of work over the course of say, a year, then it'd easily be worthwhile. In that case, the company you work for would happily pay for it. At least that's what happened with me. I was making roughly the same amount you are and my company kept asking me for illustrations etc. The faster I turned those around, the more I could do. Before long they not only got me Photoshop, but were getting the upgrade every year or so.

      There's another factor here: The more you master Photoshop, the more your employable value goes up. If you can, for example, paint realistic clothing on a character, you can earn yourself freelance gigs that easily pay for your copy of Photoshop and then some. There's a whole market for image creation. That price becomes easily justifiable when it becomes an investment and not a luxury. That make sense?

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    29. Re:I'm convinced! by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 1

      It's certainly possible for nonprofessionals to use it, and Adobe does little to stop them, but the product is intended to cater to professionals and is designed and priced as such.

      In other words, what I'm trying to say is what I said. You may have interpreted it differently, but you aren't in my head and have no business telling me my thoughts.

    30. Re:I'm convinced! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Half of the price is photoshops ability to print what you want. You don't need to make very many commercial print runs for that to pay itself back. Seriously the price is a steal.

    31. Re:I'm convinced! by ModernGeek · · Score: 1

      At $75 an hour, about 10 customers with about 90 minutes of combined work would pay for your investment. It's just the cost of doing business. Adobe has done the hard part for you, $700 is nothing.

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    32. Re:I'm convinced! by maxume · · Score: 1

      What's your response to the part you didn't bother quoting? Here it is again:

      so they will pay it if they need it to do business

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    33. Re:I'm convinced! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about quark.

    34. Re:I'm convinced! by lgarner · · Score: 1

      "It entered the land of exclusive pro tool years ago."

      You're right, and the answer to your question is likely "one".

    35. Re:I'm convinced! by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      have a list?

      To name just a few, in no particular order...
      PhotoLine
      Fireworks
      Painter
      Paint Shop Pro
      PhotoPaint
      Canvas
      Fireworks
      Pixel Studio Pro
      PhotoXL
      PhotoPlus
      PhotoImpact
      Xara

      that run on linux/OSX/windows?

      Photoshop doesn't run on Linux either, only OSX and Windows.
      Some of the above list do run on all those platforms though.

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    36. Re:I'm convinced! by sloth+jr · · Score: 1

      Probably because you can't get woodworking tools for free - there simply is no alternative, other than theft.

      Believe me, if you COULD get cameras and woodworking tools for free, hobbyists WOULD.

    37. Re:I'm convinced! by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      There's no alternative for the software either, other than the less capable GIMP or theft. So I don't see what your point is.

    38. Re:I'm convinced! by dangitman · · Score: 1

      Photoshop currently sells at a "lightweight" $700. How many photos would I have to edit to make that cost effective?

      Just one, if that photo is valuable enough.

      It entered the land of exclusive pro tool years ago.

      That's a very odd statement, as that was its intended use from day one. It was never not in that category. It has always been relatively expensive in consumer terms, but if you're a professional photographer, it's less than the cost of one lens, so it's relatively inexpensive.

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    39. Re:I'm convinced! by dangitman · · Score: 1

      Adobe allowing "controlled leakage" is the best free marketing campaign since Office 97 went from workplace "to the house" and back again.

      Riiiiight. Adobe is deliberately putting copies of Photoshop on bittorrent networks as a marketing effort. It's not bittorrent users who share software doing it, it's a direct effort from Adobe.

      You talk of Adobe "allowing" this. Pray tell, how would Adobe stop it? We all know that any copy protection is hacked in short order, but you think Adobe has some magical power to prevent its products from appearing on bittorrent?

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    40. Re:I'm convinced! by dangitman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Why is Gimp always brought up when talking about Photoshop competitors?

      Because it's Open Source.

      I understand the near future will take Gimp out of the domain of "programmers-who-like-to-do-graphics"

      That doesn't really matter to GIMP fans - it being for programmers, and it being Open Source are why they like it.

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    41. Re:I'm convinced! by dwywit · · Score: 1
      *cough*academic version*cough*

      Is that still available? I only paid ~AUD$350 for Premiere Pro Academic/Education version (vs AUD$1200 retail), way back when I was studying.

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    42. Re:I'm convinced! by ghostis · · Score: 1

      Adobe makes their money on implementing efficient work flows for manipulating images, etc. If I am an independent designer, the more work I can cram into a day, the better I live. If I run a megacorp design department, the more work my employees can do, the fewer I need and the larger my bonus. I personally love and use the GIMP. It's an amazing project, but when I go head to head with my brother with his CS4 on a particular task, for the most part, I can't compete.

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    43. Re:I'm convinced! by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      I didn’t know Photoshop was actually literally shipped! Also why would you do all that work and take all that risk on the high seas, when you can simply download it from a file-sharing network?

      Oh, you meant holdup murder child rape mass destruction terror copying? ;)

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    44. Re:I'm convinced! by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      There's no alternative for the software either, other than the less capable GIMP or theft

      If you call that “theft”, which I don’t.

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    45. Re:I'm convinced! by Compaqt · · Score: 1

      The GIMP is brought up because it's the flagship application of the Linux/free software/open source crowd.

      GTK+ is (basically) the GIMP Toolkit. GNOME is built on GTK+ and was at one time the only totally free desktop environment because KDE was built on Qt, which wasn't free-libre.

      In fact, what would be really weird is if there were a Photoshop thread in which the GIMP wasn't mentioned.

      An alternative question would be: why is Photoshop compulsively mentioned whenever there's a new GIMP release?

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    46. Re:I'm convinced! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Adobe are their own worst enemy sometimes regards "hafway pirates" as well - having had a legit P4, and a legit Distiller (from a legit Pagemaker, admittedly a bought while ago, but still, payed for..), tried to install something from CS2 as a trial version. Result, this screws up existing P4 and Distiller beyond repair. Try geting Adobe to admit that, tho :-/

      Now use a cracked CS2 full as I have no damned choice, be a cold day in Hell before I pay for that though. Forced Upgrades, enough already Adobe.

    47. Re:I'm convinced! by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      That you fail to call something by it's proper name, does not change it's nature.

    48. Re:I'm convinced! by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Cute, but no, failing to call something by its proper name does not change its nature. And that is why I don’t call it theft. It isn’t.

      I suppose you also believe that if I snap your photograph I’ve stolen a piece of your soul?

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    49. Re:I'm convinced! by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 1

      When that 1% is what enables you to make the other 99%, it's not as big a deal. As others have noted, Photoshop is primarily a professional tool.

      Sorry I wasn't clear, I was referring to non-professionals. For a professional, $700 for such a robust tool is not too great of an expense.

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    50. Re:I'm convinced! by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 1

      Nonprofessionals also can't afford heavy construction equipment to do backyard projects, but that doesn't mean heavy construction equipment is unfairly priced.

    51. Re:I'm convinced! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If this is true, it makes Adobe support's claim that "we do not support Photoshop/Acrobat on a computer connected to a network" all the more baffling.

      We were early adopters of CS4, and Photoshop was unusably slow, and Acrobat failed to even start, purely because we had centralised profiles on the domain, as any sensible medium corporate setup would.

      In the end I had to go halfway to cracking Creative Suite - by writing a wrapper that intercepted registry calls and 'pretended' profiles all lived locally - because Adobe flat refused to help. Three or four months later they finally patched it.

      Given this experience (and others), my impression is that the large number of small design shops out there are their market, not larger corporate.

    52. Re:I'm convinced! by sloth+jr · · Score: 1

      I figured this argument would come up. Not to condone any "illegal" activity, but clearly there's a difference between unsanctioned copying of software, which may or may not deprive author of compensation, and theft, which denies someone else the ability to use said software.

    53. Re:I'm convinced! by lwsimon · · Score: 1

      Admittedly, my experience is with the Mega-Corp :)

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  7. Re:I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Content-aware fill is different from content-aware resizing. Content-aware fill is basically a clone brush that automatically decides how to make the cloned area match into its surroundings instead of just copying and pasting content.

  8. Re:I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Umm, if GIMP was ever able to interpret fill EDGES! Did you even watch the video? It is holy impressive how it filled in the edge gaps of this panorama image at the end of the video. Just, WOW! I WANT TO SEE THE CODE THAT DOES THIS SO BAD!

  9. Having watched the whole thing to the end... by Angostura · · Score: 1

    I call Shenanigans. Someone has released this video a few days early.

    1. Re:Having watched the whole thing to the end... by santax · · Score: 1

      ahhhh you might a very good point there... Cause my jaw was hitting the ground at mach 7 also...

    2. Re:Having watched the whole thing to the end... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Especially the last example looks awesome enough that one might think of an early Aprils fools joke, but if you look closely it seems authentic, you can spot the bits and pieces of the image that where cloned to fill in the missing information. So this seems to be an quite clever automatic-clone tool.

    3. Re:Having watched the whole thing to the end... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, please. This is so obviously fake. I'm just not sure whether to believe you folks are honestly taken in by it.

    4. Re:Having watched the whole thing to the end... by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      I’m not so sure. How’d it know that the small hill on the right side of the picture should go down in the new area it created? How’d it know that the horizon on the left edge should go up?

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    5. Re:Having watched the whole thing to the end... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The small hill on the right side was a mirror image of the hill/valley just to the left of it.

    6. Re:Having watched the whole thing to the end... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you post on YouTube often? I'm sure I've seen your comments there!

    7. Re:Having watched the whole thing to the end... by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      But the one on the left side isn’t.

      So how’d it know to mirror the right side but extend the left side without reflecting the angle?

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    8. Re:Having watched the whole thing to the end... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The left side is smoother and continues at the same angle for about 1/3 the image; the right side was quite variable.

    9. Re:Having watched the whole thing to the end... by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Perhaps but even so, it’s not really a mirror image of the hill/valley to the left of it.

      Like I said, I’m skeptical. This little tiny video isn’t high enough resolution to tell whether it’s any good, anyway.

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    10. Re:Having watched the whole thing to the end... by neonleonb · · Score: 1

      Agreed!

    11. Re:Having watched the whole thing to the end... by metamatic · · Score: 3, Informative

      A few days ago I was reading about some of the algorithms for doing this, shown at Siggraph in recent years. I think it's real.

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    12. Re:Having watched the whole thing to the end... by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes, clearly the images where Photoshopped. I could tell from some of the pixels and having seen quite a few Photoshops in my time... er, wait a minute...

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    13. Re:Having watched the whole thing to the end... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      I've watched the video a few times now, especially toward the end.

      It could well be a fake. We'll find out shortly, I think.

      I'd like to see uncompressed copies of the before and after, that's for sure.

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    14. Re:Having watched the whole thing to the end... by clone53421 · · Score: 1
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    15. Re:Having watched the whole thing to the end... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's real. This has been demoed publicly at Adobe conferences before... like "MAX" last year in LA.

    16. Re:Having watched the whole thing to the end... by PhilHibbs · · Score: 1

      Oh, did it guess right? Is that the way that the landscape really slopes? Serious answer: It doesn't "know" it, that's just the result of whatever algorithm it uses. If you can demonstrate that it got the answer perfectly correct, then I'll be suspicious.

    17. Re:Having watched the whole thing to the end... by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      I really don’t know, but I posted a few images here.

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  10. Watch the vid in the article by santax · · Score: 1

    If anything, go to around 4 min, and watch till the end (only a minute left). This is groundbreaking. Insane. I hate it, gonna put me out of my job.

    1. Re:Watch the vid in the article by Trent+Hawkins · · Score: 1

      I hate it, gonna put me out of my job.

      SHHH! Just don't let your clients know and we can all pretend to work for hours while posting on /.

    2. Re:Watch the vid in the article by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      This is groundbreaking. Insane. I hate it, gonna put me out of my job.

      I shant comment on what you do - after all, somebody needs naked midgets inserted into pictures of White House dinners - but looking at that video, I'm struck with the fact they they didn't zoom in at all. In the tiny little YouTube frame on a coarse monitor, you could hide flesh ripping raptors in the repair and it wouldn't be visible. In fact, if you look closely, you can see some bad edges even at this resolution.

      Now maybe this is going to be the best thing since sliced bread, but like most of the program's more powerful tools, it's more likely to be featured on Photoshop Disasters than anything else.

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    3. Re:Watch the vid in the article by MXPS · · Score: 4, Funny

      Color, I mean content-aware fill me impressed.

    4. Re:Watch the vid in the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously? By the sounds of it your job was just begging to be replaced by a small shell script.

    5. Re:Watch the vid in the article by DIplomatic · · Score: 1

      There are 2 responses to this video:
      1) "Holy shit that could really be cool! I'm going to look into this!"
      2) If it doesn't work 100% of the time on every pixel in the entire picture while massaging my back, I'm NOT buying it!!"

    6. Re:Watch the vid in the article by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nope not put you out of a job, just lower your wages to $8.95 an hour because monkeys can now do your job.

      Welcome to what us in Photography have had to deal with. I just saw an AD on the TV for a mall photo studio that will give you 20 shots in their studio for $9.95. and 8X10 prints start at $4.95 each. Yes I know it's done by no talent kids or minimum wage people, but the average consumer does not know that. They still think that it's all in the cost of the equipment and has nothing to do with skill and experience.

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    7. Re:Watch the vid in the article by santax · · Score: 1

      Would love see that script mate. Please AC enlighten us all with you great wisdom. Share the source!

    8. Re:Watch the vid in the article by dk90406 · · Score: 1

      Click on the little YouTube frame, select "watch it on YouTube", select your bit rate and go to full screen. This was truely amazing, but I fear that it may be a premature Aprils Fools joke...

    9. Re:Watch the vid in the article by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      select your bit rate and go to full screen

      I'm an American, you insensitive clod!

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    10. Re:Watch the vid in the article by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 1

      I normally get the jokes around here even when I don't think they're funny, but I don't know what the hell you mean. Mind explaining?

    11. Re:Watch the vid in the article by clone53421 · · Score: 1
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    12. Re:Watch the vid in the article by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      Color, I mean content-aware fill me impressed.

      Wait, where did you go? I see "impressed" but that's it...

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    13. Re:Watch the vid in the article by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Not unless your job is doing half assed edits.

      If it works as well as they showed (somehow I suspect they showed the best case scenarios), it still needs some manual cleanup. It was impressive, but the content aware fill left behind some pretty jarring artifacts, even in the tiny little YouTube window. It's a nice starting point, and should make editing go faster, but it's not going to replace a professional retoucher.

    14. Re:Watch the vid in the article by santax · · Score: 1

      Neh I know that, but still, if that it really is true, man, that is gonna save so much time. To me it's like the difference between starting with an empty canvas or a blueprint. They use that technique in a big way there, but from what I could see, as a replacement of the healingtool, this alone would be great! No more cloning, or at least a lot less. I really am impressed and I am crossing my fingers that this isn't a april first joke. But I agree with you, this isn't perfect, but it's a lot more perfect than what I can do now in that timeframe.

    15. Re:Watch the vid in the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, where'd he go?!

    16. Re:Watch the vid in the article by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Yes I know it's done by no talent kids or minimum wage people, but the average consumer does not know that. They still think that it's all in the cost of the equipment and has nothing to do with skill and experience.

      It's lighting mostly, and some of the kids do have talent. I don't think anybody working at Target knows how to setup lighting, but a specialist did the setups computer sets the lights (quickly). So, that's really just automation. The job of the attendant is to get the kids to smile at the squeaky too and press the exposure button. The second part can be automated with additional processing power. The first part, might eventually be automated with a TV or a robot. Send the kid in to the booth in nice clothes, and show him Three Stooges while he stands in front of a greenscreen...

      I think it's more about market segmentation, though. You're likely to get a run-of-the-mill backdrop and portrait at a place like Target. Nothing artful about. But it's well-lit, and for sending wallets to the extended Christmas card list, it's quite satisfactory.

      That's not to say that a good family portrait by an experienced photographer does not have value. But the low end always eats the high end and the high end (around here anyway) has a 10x multiplier. People used to get service they didn't actually want, so that's not value.

      On the other hand, the photographer who's doing the portraits at my daughter's school is exceedingly poor. He's standing kids up in front of a bulletin board and using a poor lens and body-mounted flash, taking mug-shots, and then expecting anybody would want to buy a package of that shot. The lighting and output are abysmal and the results are quite inferior to Target's $10 offering. So, there's a consistency risk while the big-box experience is likely to be uniform if average.

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  11. Re:I for one by Zocalo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Photoshop has had that capability natively (ie, not requiring a plugin) since CS4, this is the ability to select an object in an image - litter on a lawn was the example given in the article - and replace its former location in the image with content derived from the surrounding areas. Basically it's like an intelligent, automated version of the Clone Brush tool on steroids.

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  12. Google Street View by ISoldat53 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sounds like something Google Street View could use to remove people from their views and make them more acceptable.

    1. Re:Google Street View by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      What if Google already has an in-house tool for that? :)

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    2. Re:Google Street View by Albert+Sandberg · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Sounds like something Google Street View could use to remove people from their views and make them more acceptable.

      And then a bug occurs and only black people gets erased and they're screeeeewed!

    3. Re:Google Street View by larry+bagina · · Score: 1

      That's what happens when you hire the writers for Friends....

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    4. Re:Google Street View by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 1

      Then I'd wonder why they aren't using it, opting instead to blur faces?

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    5. Re:Google Street View by martas · · Score: 1

      it's expensive (human+computing time).

    6. Re:Google Street View by Robin47 · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure how this tool make the people more acceptable.

    7. Re:Google Street View by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They do it for Satellite views. No other way to explain how we can zoom beyond to car length details BUT cannot see a single body crossing the street. Just see for yourself even on Sat imagery of New York city, in broad daylight.

      I know, it's a lot simpler to blur spec-size blobs from a heads-up photo than full bodies at different angles, stances, colors and things they are wearing and carrying... but Google or their Sat imagery providers are using some tech for the simple tasks anyway.

    8. Re:Google Street View by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Nah, they’re still there. It’s just harder to see a head-sized object than a car-sized object. But this clearly shows a few pedestrians on the sidewalk and one in the crosswalk. All you can see are their shadows.

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    9. Re:Google Street View by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 1

      So is hiring people to drive around in a van, but they manage that. If you watch the siggraph video this doesn't look like it'd be expensive at all either.

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    10. Re:Google Street View by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then they should make use of it.

    11. Re:Google Street View by martas · · Score: 1

      ok, how about this: it's more expensive than blurring, and blurring is good enough.

    12. Re:Google Street View by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 1

      Well sure, but this is google we are talking about. It's not like they didn't already put metric tons of computing cycles into this, why not go just a little further and get a much nicer end result?

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  13. Ex Wife feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Ex wife, there you go

  14. Thanks E-Harmony! by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Great for folks who go through relationships like Octomom goes through diapers.

  15. Very impressive. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I edit photos for my sisters business (she's terrible at taking photos of her products, always cutting bits off I have to fill out and work around) and I can safely say this feature would have saved around 60% of my editing time. That's a conservative estimate- probable around 75%.

    Can't speak for you guys, but I'm sold.

    1. Re:Very impressive. by h4rr4r · · Score: 1
    2. Re:Very impressive. by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      If this feature would have saved 60% - 75% of your editing time just because she can’t take pictures properly, you’d probably save most of that time by simply taking the pictures yourself and making sure you don’t cut off the edge of the object when you snap the picture.

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  16. Ouroboros by eldavojohn · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Fox News and the Texas board of Education.

    You know what's really funny? When those two collide.

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    1. Re:Ouroboros by TDyl · · Score: 1

      Trying not to troll or initiate a flame, but when I saw the tea.state.tx.us url I immediately thought that was an official Texas State teaparty group.

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    2. Re:Ouroboros by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      For all the educational value they provide, it might as well be. But with beer instead of tea.

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  17. Nice Demo... by ndykman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I wish there was a paper on the core algorithms behind it (cmon Adobe, SIGGRAPH), but I could see why Adobe may be sitting on every aspect of this tool; because it sure seems to bring some real photoshop wizardry to the common user. It was really an example of "delete this thing" and it just works. Takes a common complex task and massively simplifies it. One of the most impressive marketing demos I've seen in a while.

    Sure, there are some cases in which I doubt it works, but from what I could see, it seemed to have some vision and perceptual rules built in to guide how to fill in the deleted area. And frankly, it's a feature that for professionals, makes the price tag for the upgrade worth it. For some tasks, it'd pay for itself in labor alone. What would take a expert hours to do, this could do in minutes. If I was Adobe, I'd seriously consider taking this and make a Photoshop Elements Extended Edition (or whatever) and add about 79-99 bucks to this price for this feature alone. Arguably, it'd be worth it for many.

    1. Re:Nice Demo... by Urban+Garlic · · Score: 1

      A random bookmark I happened to have, here.

      This isn't quite the same issue, the focus is on scratch removal, but it's close.

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    2. Re:Nice Demo... by marcansoft · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Here's the paper, from a comment above.

    3. Re:Nice Demo... by RGreen · · Score: 1

      It's based on "Gradient Based Image Completion by solving the Poisson Equation":
              http://www2.mae.cuhk.edu.hk/~cwang/pubs/C&GImageCompletion.pdf

      Plus a bunch of other related papers that Siggraph people have been playing with for some years now.

    4. Re:Nice Demo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This seems to be legit. The youtube account has a video from October demoing the same algorithm:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFEBamdtdiI

      This earlier video references the name of the algorithm as "PatchMatch" and says that it was developed in collaboration with Princeton and University of Washington. A quick search found this paper:
      http://www.cs.princeton.edu/gfx/pubs/Barnes_2009_PAR/patchmatch.pdf

    5. Re:Nice Demo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is an algorithm behind it called PatchMatch. And it was presented at SIGGRAPH 2009. Someone further down posted a link to it, really impressive the examples they show on the Princeton page talking about PatchMatch. It looks like 2 guys from Adobe and 2 from Princeton collaborated to develop the algorithm to do this kind of stuff.

    6. Re:Nice Demo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is not quite the same, but "Content-Aware Image Resizing" from SIGGRAPH 2007 has some of the same functionality--you can increase the size of an image, for example, and it fills in detail that wasn't in the original image. I'm guessing this is the starting point for Adobe's algorithm. Have a look:
      http://www.faculty.idc.ac.il/arik/site/seam-carve.asp

    7. Re:Nice Demo... by Oscaro · · Score: 1

      This is pretty old stuff, see http://research.microsoft.com/pubs/69211/siggraph05_0265_final.pdf for example (but I'm sure I've read older articles on similar techniques).

      At one point there was even a gimp plugin that worked decently well. Here: http://www.logarithmic.net/pfh/resynthesizer/removal

    8. Re:Nice Demo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you really just say "cmon Adobe, SIGGRAPH"? Adobe had 18 papers in SIGGRAPH 2009.

    9. Re:Nice Demo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A video demonstrating the feature at Siggraph 2007.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIFCV2spKtg

      It also describe the algorithm.

    10. Re:Nice Demo... by ndykman · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the reference. I should have known that Adobe would have published something on this in SIGGRAPH (as somebody noted, they publish a lot). I see I was wrong about using perceptual guidelines. But the idea of constraint regions combined with the algorithm improvements for patch finding made for nice jump in processing time and results. And in GPU acceleration and you get a great new tool that is efficient enought to support exploratory workflows.

  18. Enhance by SimonTheSoundMan · · Score: 4, Funny

    Next up is the "CSI Enhance" tool. Take a photo of 10x10 pixels, and make it a perfect 2MP image.

    1. Re:Enhance by EvanED · · Score: 5, Funny

      They can call it Adobe Homeopathy.

    2. Re:Enhance by Gerafix · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, no, that's "take a 1mp super grainy noisy photo from a 7-11 security camera and put on magic filters and super zoom to see a strand of hair from 100 feet away that shows that the attacker owns a golden retriever and thus you should check the registered animal database for a golden retriever that is in a 100 yard radius from the attack location".

    3. Re:Enhance by arhhook · · Score: 5, Funny

      "CSI Enhance" tool

      I can see the fingerprint in the reflection on his eyeball, it must be the killer!

    4. Re:Enhance by ckhorne · · Score: 1
    5. Re:Enhance by Dachannien · · Score: 1

      Clearly, that's over the top, but you'd be surprised at the sorts of super-resolution techniques that are out there already. Most (but not all) techniques require multiple frames of the same image with enough jitter from one frame to the next so that what you lose in spatial sampling you make up in temporal sampling.

    6. Re:Enhance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn, they're on to me

    7. Re:Enhance by Wescotte · · Score: 2, Informative
    8. Re:Enhance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, exactly, one of the most annoying non-existent technologies in the movies!

  19. Youtube video quality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No-one else dubious as to the actual quality of these touchups? I'm definitely not convinced when all that's available is a SD quality video that's been through YouTube's encoding, since it barely shows anything more than the basic colours and shapes are there.

    1. Re:Youtube video quality by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      I am, and I thought it looked rather blurry when he was removing the tree trunks in that first image. In fact the first one he removed he had to undo and do it over again because it didn’t look right.

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    2. Re:Youtube video quality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      In fact the first one he removed he had to undo and do it over again because it didn't look right.

      I'm guessing you know very little about Photoshop. The one that he undid the first time was because he used the Healing Brush tool (which has been in PS for several versions now) to show how poorly the closest tool that Photoshop currently has would do the job. He then showed us how the Content Aware Fill Tool would do it. This was very clearly explained in the voiceover. Also, this isn't intended to be the only tool you use. He's showing us how far you can get by using the new tool. You'll still need to go through the image carefully and touch up edges here and there. But as a first step, to use the words of the Vice President, this is a big fucking deal!

    3. Re:Youtube video quality by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      This was very clearly explained in the voiceover.

      That explains it, then: I don’t have sound. I didn’t notice that he switched tools. My apologies.

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    4. Re:Youtube video quality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you trying to be funny? The first tree removal was done using the current generation of tools. Once it was shown that it does not work well, he undid the modification and used the new featured tool. Did you watch the video without audio?

    5. Re:Youtube video quality by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Before anybody else replies to tell me I’m wrong, I’d like to clarify that I couldn’t hear the dialogue (no speakers) so I didn’t realise that he’d used the healing brush (not the content-aware fill) for the first stroke.

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    6. Re:Youtube video quality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no, the first one he did he was showing off the old tools, the entire point was that it was blurry and didn't look right. that way he could show how much better the new tool was.

    7. Re:Youtube video quality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you not have the audio on? At first he showed the original algorithm without the "content aware" checkbox checked, and showed how it produced results that are less than satisfactory. He then undoes it, and turns on the content aware algorithm, and does it again, and this time you see a much better result.

    8. Re:Youtube video quality by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Did you not have the audio on?

      No, I didn’t. And I’ve said it one, two... three times now. Thanks anyway.

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  20. The most important question by CptPicard · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder what sort of a fig leaf it will use to plug the gap in the goatse photo...

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    1. Re:The most important question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder what sort of a fig leaf it will use to plug the gap in the goatse photo...

      More like a banana leaf.

    2. Re:The most important question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Inside or outside?

    3. Re:The most important question by dangitman · · Score: 1

      Butt plug? Tree trunk?

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    4. Re:The most important question by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      I was thinking “table leaf”.

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    5. Re:The most important question by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1
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  21. Image Inpainting Tech created at UMN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Guillermo Sapiro developed the first remarkable inpainting techniques. I'm sure Adobe uses similar techniques since I remember some joint research being done with the U while I was there.

    http://mountains.ece.umn.edu/~guille/inpainting.htm

    Go Gophers!

  22. Omnomnom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like to pirate each Adobe CS just for the sake of having such expensive software. XD

  23. For the doubters... by Op911 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wasn't this core technology discussed on Slashdot a number of years back? If you google "Seam Carving" you'll find some nice wikipedia articles that discuss content-aware image resizing. This may be a variant on the same technology, and i actually doubt that this is an early release of an April Fool's Day joke (no matter how Star Trek this technology seems).

    1. Re:For the doubters... by wal9001 · · Score: 1

      Check out 1:28 in the video here for an illustration of the difference between Seam Carving and PatchMatch, which I believe is what the content aware fill demo is based on.

    2. Re:For the doubters... by connellybarnes · · Score: 1

      Seam carving removes continuous seams (wavy lines) of pixels that are hard to perceive after being removed. Thus it's well suited for changing the aspect ratio of images (in Photoshop this is called content aware scale), since if you remove a seam the image gains or loses a whole row or column of pixels. But it's less suited for filling in big holes, where you need to find the right textural pattern to put in the hole. To do this we made a new tech called "patchmatch" that basically dices the image into little squares (patches) and then matches similar patches :-). We used this core tech in a global optimization, where good matches outside the hole are pasted in the hole, averaged, and then this is repeated until convergence. I did this at an internship at Adobe. http://www.cs.princeton.edu/gfx/pubs/Barnes_2009_PAR/index.php

  24. Re:I for one by thedigitalbean · · Score: 4, Informative

    Liquid rescale is an implementation of the Seam Carving technology which was incorporated into Photoshop CS4 as a feature titled Content Aware Scale.

    This new feature comes from an algorithm titled PatchMatch which was presented at SIGGRAPH 2009:

    http://www.cs.princeton.edu/gfx/pubs/Barnes_2009_PAR/index.php

  25. Took a little while by djlemma · · Score: 1

    I remember reading about folks at Carnegie Mellon building this tool a few years ago.. Sure enough, there's a slashdot article.

    I suppose the photoshop tool only pulls from material in the photo you're editing, and not from outside sources.. so it's a bit different. But the goals/results are pretty similar, it seems.

  26. Re:I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mod parent down for not RTFA; this has nothing to do with liquid rescale.

  27. Similar open source tools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://cimg.sourceforge.net/greycstoration/demonstration.shtml
    (Image Inpainting section)

  28. Re:I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is this idiot modded informative? He should be modded off-topic and clearly didn't read the article... I guess neither did the mods.

  29. One damn tool - pay for 200 unnecessary ones by unity100 · · Score: 1

    isnt the way with the software companies these days ? fill a software with innumerable features even professionals will rarely use, and ask $60-100 for 20 to 30 functions/features that people will use, because you also put there 180 or so ones that noone will use.

    that's why software is being pirated. noone wants to shell out $60 for 200 functions 20 of which they will use from time to time.

    1. Re:One damn tool - pay for 200 unnecessary ones by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Yup. I had a friend that bought Photoshop CS2 for the NoiseNinja plugin... I pointed out one day that he could have bought Noiseninja as a stand alone and skipped paying the several hundred for Photoshop and he about freaked.

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    2. Re:One damn tool - pay for 200 unnecessary ones by ExileOnHoth · · Score: 4, Insightful

      noone wants to shell out $60 for 200 functions 20 of which they will use from time to time.

      Personally, I'll shell out. I make a living using photoshop and I support the idea that a bunch of extremely talented software engineers ought to be able to make a living developing it.

    3. Re:One damn tool - pay for 200 unnecessary ones by unity100 · · Score: 1

      my point is, even a web designer, or a visual designer doesnt use majority of those functions in photoshop. and those talented software engineers would make much more money, if they sold their product smartly, by giving out only what customers need for a cheaper price, and then offering all features as addons for minimal prices.

    4. Re:One damn tool - pay for 200 unnecessary ones by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      ...because you also put there 180 or so ones that noone will use.

      Peter Noone, great grandfather of Doctor McCoy: "I'm a musician, dammit, not a photographer!"

    5. Re:One damn tool - pay for 200 unnecessary ones by adonoman · · Score: 1

      Which is why they started selling the Elements line for $100 aimed at the home user market.

    6. Re:One damn tool - pay for 200 unnecessary ones by XnavxeMiyyep · · Score: 1

      I usually get every other version of Photoshop. Got CS, skipped CS2, got CS3, skipped CS4, and now CS5 looks pretty awesome.

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    7. Re:One damn tool - pay for 200 unnecessary ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > ... I support the idea that a bunch of extremely talented software engineers ought to be able to make a living developing it.

      And then theres ADOBE

    8. Re:One damn tool - pay for 200 unnecessary ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I see your problem right off the bat. Photoshop isn't a design tool. It is a professional grade tool for professional photographers to perform image manipulations.

      Your post is like bitching that you can't buy a decent cheap backhoe to dig fence posts.

    9. Re:One damn tool - pay for 200 unnecessary ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you really flaming the number of features in a *professional* tool. In fact the industry standard tool, that many many people, myself included, earn a living using. If you think its $60 you are sadly mistaken.

      And to those who earn a living writing software like Photoshop, kudos, you are artists. I will gladly not steal from you as you are putting thousands of man hours into each feature.

    10. Re:One damn tool - pay for 200 unnecessary ones by djlemma · · Score: 1

      isnt the way with the software companies these days ? fill a software with innumerable features even professionals will rarely use, and ask $60-100 for 20 to 30 functions/features that people will use, because you also put there 180 or so ones that noone will use.

      that's why software is being pirated. noone wants to shell out $60 for 200 functions 20 of which they will use from time to time.

      Especially when photoshop costs $600.

      Although, I'm actually likely to purchase is (and lightroom) pretty soon. I have a good job, I do tons of photography, and the cost of the combo is on par with what it cost in the film days to get a darkroom set up.

      I'm probably also going to set up a darkroom, but I'm not sure which one is going to come first.

    11. Re:One damn tool - pay for 200 unnecessary ones by unity100 · · Score: 1

      so ?

      people will STILL pirate photoshop, and use it for cropping their kids' photos.

      going with market demands doesnt just apply to price. it also applies to preferences.

      ie - in layman's terms, because 'the people' prefer it so, photoshop should create a very basic toolset version and offer it for sale from $10. that would eliminate any need to pirate it with the exception of extreme cases.

    12. Re:One damn tool - pay for 200 unnecessary ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $60?!? Where the hell are YOu buying photoshop? Add a zero to that value there bro.

    13. Re:One damn tool - pay for 200 unnecessary ones by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 1

      When you charge $100-$300 an hour $60 a year isn't exactly a financial leap of faith.

    14. Re:One damn tool - pay for 200 unnecessary ones by wal9001 · · Score: 1

      Most of those people could get by with Photoshop Elements instead of Photoshop, and there are even cheaper alternatives if that's still too much. Honestly, I'd prefer it keep working the way it does rather than getting a $10 gutted version with in app sales or "software as a service" model feature rentals.

      Photoshop CS6 now optionally supports Content Aware Fill for $1 a use or $15 a month!!!

      Fuck no.

    15. Re:One damn tool - pay for 200 unnecessary ones by BitZtream · · Score: 1

      Cool, too bad Adobe doesn't seem to have any even marginally talented engineers these days. They used to be impressive, now days they seem to be more like EA than a real software house.

      They have 'requirements' that prevent their 'core technology' from running on case sensitive file systems ... You may not understand what a retarded statement that is, but ask any developer whos done cross platform work have trivial of an issue it is to deal with. You can literally fix any problems your software has with a sed script in most languages UNLESS you actually go out of your way to break things.

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    16. Re:One damn tool - pay for 200 unnecessary ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cool, too bad Adobe doesn't seem to have any even marginally talented engineers these days.

      Yes, because clearly the people who developed and implemented these features were not even "marginally talented."

  30. welcome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one welcome our automatic fake nude image generating overlord.

    Boobies!

  31. Re:I for one by BlackPignouf · · Score: 2, Informative

    Welcome my "getting modded Insightful for not RTFA and spreading bullshit" overlords at Slashdot.

    Content-aware scaling has been included in Photoshop since CS4.

    But this is no scaling, it's filling. The first 3 minutes of the video are not so interesting (nothing one could not do with a clone stamp in 2 seconds), but the last 2 minutes are breath-taking.

    GREYCstoration or liquidrescale don't even come close.

  32. Now watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now watch for FOSS fanboys claiming that this feature already exists via some obscure plugin to Gimp or whatnot. Of course, it won't even be close to the real thing. I didn't check, but someone has probably already made this post.

    Yet another example of innovation in a commercial product, now watch how open source clones struggle over the next couple of years to make a 1:1 copy and eventually either failing due to the technical difficulty or making it horribly user-unfriendly in the process. If the former, they will claim "no one needs this feature" and if the latter, "shut up and read the README in the root of the tarball".

    Expecting flamebait so posting Anon.

    1. Re:Now watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot a third option:

      It works and is user-intuitive, but crashes the photo-editing software in Linux on 95% of system configurations. The users who cry for fixes to the software are told (3 days later, via poorly threaded forums) "You should have bought Obscure Video Card X, as they're more open-source friendly. It works just fine on my system."

    2. Re:Now watch by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1

      Yeah, people who get paid to develop full time are going to get there first. And slaves sure fill those cotton baskets faster than unionized workers. Nobody contests these facts.

      But here's the thing; Open source projects, given enough time will generally get there.

      When I started using Abiword, it crashed all the time. Now it's awesome; it's exactly what I want. A lightweight, reliable, intuitive dedicated word processor. I like how it scrolls; it doesn't automatically jump a document up to the center of the page when my cursor nears the bottom of the screen. You can't turn that shit off in other programs, but a 6 Meg word processor which I use all the time does just what I want and I didn't pay a dime for it. In fact, pretty much anything I need to do on my computer, I can type in, "[Random Application I Need] Open Source" and multiple choices will emerge. Generally I'll wind up using a very powerful and user-friendly bit of software whose creators have been honing to perfection for several years.

      Open source software just keeps improving over time, and it doesn't vanish because a CEO decides to kill a product line because not enough Muggles are paying.

      Right now, the model of our economy is such that everybody runs on money and debt. That model happens to be good at generating new technology quickly. Great. But the downside is that everybody is forced to work too hard and we are surrounded by toxic shit and psychopathic corporations and creepy Obama-droids who have learned how to charm people while accelerating Bush policies and passing backassward health care bills.

      I wouldn't mind living with a slower lifestyle if it meant people could relax a bit and take better care of themselves and each other. In a perfect world, people would make great stuff without needing greed and fear and government to motivate them. I see that behavior in a lot of people already; that's where open source anything comes from. People wanting to build cool stuff themselves. Heck, I like to build cool stuff. But we can't devote ourselves fully to such projects so long as Captain Industry is at the helm and banks keep is debt.

      -FL

  33. Bye "Mom"! by couchslug · · Score: 1

    It'll be a great "mother-in-law" tool for family photos.

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  34. But will it run... by Graham+J+-+XVI · · Score: 1

    ...on the iPad? ;)

    1. Re:But will it run... by SlamMan · · Score: 1

      Yup. Citrix XenApp.

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    2. Re:But will it run... by Graham+J+-+XVI · · Score: 1

      Those are contradictory. I'd use VNC or RDP if I wanted it to run somewhere else and still interact with it.

  35. Re:STOP! by Jazz-Masta · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wouldn't call this an ad. This is legitimately really fucking cool.

    So is the Mr. Clean Magic Eraser...

  36. Re:STOP! by Manip · · Score: 1

    Did you watch it? This is really cool technology.

    Frankly if I'm not coming to Slashdot to see the latest and greatest toys, technology, and, yes, products then what is the point...

  37. Yes, Virginia, it is an ad. by cgoodric · · Score: 1

    So easy, a CAVE man could do it. Oh, wait, what?

  38. Lens Flares by pete-classic · · Score: 5, Funny

    Using Photoshop to remove lens flares? Oh! Brave new world!

    -Peter

    1. Re:Lens Flares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good thing you watched the whole video before commenting.

    2. Re:Lens Flares by pete-classic · · Score: 1

      I did, but I had the sound off. Did he say something about that?

      -Peter

    3. Re:Lens Flares by mosb1000 · · Score: 1

      Did you happen to notice the last two examples, where he literally deleted a road from a landscape, or later on when he filled the entire outside edge of a picture? That's more than just removing lens-flares.

    4. Re:Lens Flares by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Whoosh.

      (Photoshop is for ADDING lens flares, silly.)

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    5. Re:Lens Flares by pete-classic · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah. Wow. I never dreamed that anyone would find that obscure. For example.

      -Peter

    6. Re:Lens Flares by Skadet · · Score: 1

      Sweet Lord, I wish I had mod points for you.

    7. Re:Lens Flares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot has a sig field that lets you put your sig in it so you don't have to post it in the body. That way everyone else can filter out your useless, retarded, narcissistic sig. Oh wait, that's exactly why you post it in the body, isn't it.

    8. Re:Lens Flares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Using Photoshop to remove lens flares? Oh! Brave new world!

      -Peter

      Not Brave New World, but 1984, I think.

  39. GreyCstoration or G'MIC anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Similar algorithms have been around for a LONG time.

    http://gmic.sourceforge.net/gimp.shtml
    http://cimg.sourceforge.net/greycstoration/demonstration.shtml
    http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/09/131207

    1. Re:GreyCstoration or G'MIC anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those first two links are hilarious. Thanks for the laugh, I needed that!

      The third link is more interesting, but I'm pretty sure this Photoshop plugin is doing the image completion without looking up a photo database to see what imagery to swap in.

  40. I'll believe it when by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I see a 12 megapixel image in hand of a before and after and not a tiny less than 400 pixel overcompressed youtube video.

    I have seen this automatic stuff before and when you look carefully at it it's not very clean unless you re-sample down to 1/4 the resolution or go small for web use.. it's never clean enough to print out at 11X17 or larger.

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    1. Re:I'll believe it when by l0xin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sure it might not turn out to be *perfect* on closer inspection, but given that it looks so convincing at a preview size still means orders of magnitude less effort required to get it to that stage.

    2. Re:I'll believe it when by Gaerek · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you've ever used photoshop, you would understand what it takes just to get to that part. Ever try removing a tree from an image in PS? Then have the sky look natural? That's almost impossible for the average user, and probably at least an hour (or more) of work from someone who knows what they are doing. Fixing the mistakes at that point is easy. This is could possibly be one of the most revolutionary tools in photoshop since the clone stamp.

    3. Re:I'll believe it when by dangitman · · Score: 1

      I have seen this automatic stuff before and when you look carefully at it it's not very clean unless you re-sample down to 1/4 the resolution or go small for web use.. it's never clean enough to print out at 11X17 or larger.

      I've seen professional retouching (hell, I do it myself) and it's usually not very clean, either. Nobody prints or views 11x17 prints these days, except for images intended for an art gallery exhibition. The majority of images are used on the web, or maybe printed in a magazine.

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    4. Re:I'll believe it when by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Not impossible if you can do matte painting. I’ve seen Dusso do it by hand, with a basic brush, in Photoshop. (Watched his tutorials.)

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    5. Re:I'll believe it when by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      Not impossible if you can do matte painting.

      You have a lot of faith in the average user.

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    6. Re:I'll believe it when by Gaerek · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't call matte painting, especially by hand, an easy or quick technique. Even people who are good at the technique would likely rather use these content aware tools, I would imagine.

  41. Photoshop Story by fm6 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I once did a writing contract at Adobe. You know how when you pose for an ID photo, they put you in front of a curtain or something to hide the background? When I got my Adobe badge the security guy just posed me against a regular wall, then Photoshopped the wall out of the picture!

    1. Re:Photoshop Story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I once did a writing contract at Adobe. You know how when you pose for an ID photo, they put you in front of a curtain or something to hide the background? When I got my Adobe badge the security guy just posed me against a regular wall, then Photoshopped the wall out of the picture!

      And then when your contract was up, they pulled up the picture again and Photoshopped you out of the picture.

  42. How does it handle patterns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd like to see this perform on a patterned background. It's one thing to fill in a gradient, quite another to reproduce a pattern and repeat it properly.

    1. Re:How does it handle patterns by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 1

      Congratulations on not watching the whole video, you twit.

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  43. Re:I for one by Aladrin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's not the same. Liquid Rescale moves the pieces by rescaling around them. This actually replaces just the exact area. I think it's quite a bit more useful, but in different ways.

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  44. Great for crime shows! by nilbog · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can't wait until a crime show gets ahold of this.

    "Delete that wall and see what is behind it. Enhance. Enhance. Enhance."

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    1. Re:Great for crime shows! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      There will be a news special on how perverts use this to delete people's clothing.

    2. Re:Great for crime shows! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Red Dwarf - Back to Earth did something like that already. Rimmer having Holly enhance a backwards reflection off a window from across a street to zoom in to read a card held in somebody's hand who was facing the other way

  45. Re:I for one by JobyOne · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah, and cars have already had the native ability to drive, turn and stop for a century. The DARPA Grand Challenge isn't really adding anything new.

    Those robotic cars are basically just intelligent automated versions of cars, on steroids.

    Just because it happens in software does not make it trivial.

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  46. Another youtube video about content-aware fill by chebucto · · Score: 5, Informative

    Includes more detail about the algo
    - Developed with researches at Princeton
    - Demo'd at SIGGRAPH in Aug. 2009
    - Old spot-healing tool tried to find one match for the hole; new tool copies multiple patches from the surrounding BG to fit into the hole, as well as finding & copying surrounding patterns

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9vbHRcrbdQ&feature=related

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    1. Re:Another youtube video about content-aware fill by alexo · · Score: 1

      Includes more detail about the algo
      - Developed with researches at Princeton
      - Demo'd at SIGGRAPH in Aug. 2009
      - Old spot-healing tool tried to find one match for the hole; new tool copies multiple patches from the surrounding BG to fit into the hole, as well as finding & copying surrounding patterns

      How is is different from the Patchworks project from MS Research (published 2003, implemented in MS Digital Image Suite)?

      Is there any chance of having something like that as a Paint.NET plug-in?

  47. Great, just waiting for the internet crowd. by Oasiz · · Score: 1

    Imagine using this for cutting stuff like your penis and then using the content fill tool(tm). People could compete on who would get the largest estimate ! Or nerds can finally remove their pimples from their faces easily, hurray adobe!! I currently suffer sleep deprivation.

  48. Re:I for one by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So, what about Resynthesizer?

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  49. Re:I for one by pydev · · Score: 1
  50. Been there, done that (for free) by tjwhaynes · · Score: 1

    These are graph-cut or similar algorithms. There are several free alternatives which have been out there for years. Two spring straight to mind - the resynthesizer plugin for the GIMP and GREYCStoration image inpainting.

    • http://www.logarithmic.net/pfh/resynthesizer/removal
    • http://cimg.sourceforge.net/greycstoration/demonstration.shtml

    CS5 seems to have made this easier to use but the functionality has existed for ages.

    Cheers,
    Toby Haynes

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    1. Re:Been there, done that (for free) by Archon-X · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and their quality is terrible compared to the demo.
      Just saying.

    2. Re:Been there, done that (for free) by ramandu · · Score: 1

      And pray tell, just what you base that on? A 360p youtube video? Or perhaps you have access to the full resolution before, and after images shown in the video? Perhaps it's best to wait and see what this tool can do in real life, before touting it's superior "quality".

      Just saying.

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    3. Re:Been there, done that (for free) by Archon-X · · Score: 1

      I do love a post dripping with sarcasm.
      I gave as much merit to the 480p youtube video as I gave to the links you'd provided, and thusly posted my summary: the PS version seems to produce better results.

    4. Re:Been there, done that (for free) by ramandu · · Score: 1

      Oh so you caught the sarcasm? Too bad you didn't catch the fact that my screen name is ramandu, not tjwhaynes; I never posted the links you used for your well thought out summary.

      I only saw one image on the resynthesizer page, is that what you're comparing to the demo? If it is then I agree, the adobe demo is much more awe inspiring; however flashy tech demos are not a very valuable metric when comparing the actual capabilities.

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    5. Re:Been there, done that (for free) by Archon-X · · Score: 1

      Yawn

    6. Re:Been there, done that (for free) by shish · · Score: 1

      The demo seems to have been done under pretty much ideal conditions -- when I've been working with similarly suitable source material, I've had similarly awesome results from resynthesizer.

      Some examples of things I've resynthesized in the last 10 minutes for the sake of demonstration, mixed in with some "missing object" quiz questions I made for an anime society a couple of months ago, again done with the resynthesizer: http://shishnet.org/ufufuf/mo/

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  51. Gimp Resynth by pydev · · Score: 2, Informative

    That capability has been available for a while in the Gimp as part of the Resynth plugin:

    http://www.logarithmic.net/pfh/resynthesizer

    It lets you resynthesize a texture, fill in a selection with surrounding content, and synthesize images "in the theme" of another image.

    1. Re:Gimp Resynth by abigor · · Score: 1

      I take it you didn't watch the video then?

    2. Re:Gimp Resynth by moteyalpha · · Score: 1

      Thanks for that, I am always looking for new tools. I have a script that I created that explodes images to parts by texture type and allows then to be layers. The video was interesting, but it is one of many things which can be done. The combination of ImageMagick, Inkscape, blender, gimp and shell scripts allows me to do many more things with images. There are so many ways to achieve a specific result that a -single- closed method seems limiting.
      Nice that it only took a few seconds to open a console and
      apt-get install gimp-resynthesizer
      By taking an image or series of images or layers it is possible to import them into blender as 3D objects and then export / render back to a flat with better results. The python and scheme scripting extensions are one of the many advantages of gimp and blender.

    3. Re:Gimp Resynth by pydev · · Score: 1

      Yes, Blender and Gimp are really powerful, as is the ability to script both of them in Python. With Python, you also get access to a huge number of additional image processing plugins and libraries.

      I find Photoshop and all that other Windows/Mac software rather painful in comparison.

    4. Re:Gimp Resynth by moonbender · · Score: 1

      Nice! Lets you do some pretty incredible stuff. So far I haven't been able to do stuff that's in the same league as the CS5 demo, which is probably due to a) my lack of skill, b) the suitability of the chosen images (random holiday snapshots in my case) but also c) the fact that the PS stuff is based on more recent research. It's still really cool though.

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    5. Re:Gimp Resynth by shish · · Score: 1

      I've been using the resynthesizer for a while, and found that it can do exactly what's in the demo -- but not much more. It *really* depends on your choice of source image, and the people doing the demo just happen to have chosen images which work perfectly (by resynthesizer standards). If they can get good looking results with source images that the resynthesizer chokes on, *then* I'll be impressed.

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    6. Re:Gimp Resynth by shish · · Score: 1

      Everything in that video, I have done with resynthesizer in the last couple of weeks, and have been doing with resynthesizer for the last few years -- the only interesting thing about this is that there is the option to do it all in a single step (fill brush) where the gimp makes you select then fill as two separate steps.

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    7. Re:Gimp Resynth by Ksevio · · Score: 1

      I was curious about this, so I gave it a shot. Turns out it doesn't work by default in the windows version, it always samples the top left part of the screen.

      Was a real disappointment so I searched around a bit and found someone made a fix for the script:
      http://registry.gimp.org/node/15118

      This solves that issue so it works great! Had a fun time editing people out of photos and such.

  52. Re:I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Basically it's like an intelligent, automated version of the Clone Brush tool on steroids.

    There, I've highlighted for you why it's a big thing. I can't quite tell if you were unable to determine this fact because you're a moron or if you have some kind of language processing brain defect that makes you unable to consciously pick out salient points of information.

  53. this is worthless by bugs2squash · · Score: 1

    It fills in detail from the surroundings. I want one that fills in detail from the underlying layer. For example when you delete clothing.

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  54. yeah by unity100 · · Score: 1

    a product for 'home user market' is sold from $100. you are gonna buy one, and 3-4 times a year you are going to rotate, crop and apply a few effects to your kids' photos.

    no wonder it is being pirated.

    1. Re:yeah by ExileOnHoth · · Score: 1

      Adobe does a LOT of dumb things but Photoshop pricing isn't one of them.

      Their model for Photoshop is to create hands-down the best photo editing software there is.

      Their target customer pays a day's wages every year or 2 in exchange for the continued use and expansion of what is truly Best In Class software.

      What you're looking for is something simpler, like Acorn (for Mac). Or something cheaper (like pirated software or, if you are ethical, and don't need a tool with a super-efficient user interface, something open source). You're right that there is a market there.

      And over time, Adobe has to worry about the Acorns of the world getting better and better and competing on price for the low end of the market.

      But software companies that try and compete on price with pirated copies of their own products don't stay in business very long.

    2. Re:yeah by unity100 · · Score: 1

      im not looking for anything. im just describing the picture.

      because adobe is already 'the' name anyone gives out to anyone in regard to editing tool on the internet, and noone knows any other tool by name that widespread, any mom anywhere will ask someone else what is the tool for editing pictures and the other will say photoshop. they will see the $600 price, and they will think 'hey, im just going to cut up few photos', and pirate it. and they are right at this ultimate end of the event chain.

      this is not a matter of 'target customer base', its not a matter of 'marketing'. its a matter of simple logic, wisdom.

      most of the problems we have on this planet are coming up from the shit taught to B.A.s in colleges anyway.

    3. Re:yeah by ExileOnHoth · · Score: 1

      You're saying this "mom" doesn't understand or really need high end photo editing software. And she also can't afford to spend much on it.

      So why should Adobe lower the price for her? She doesn't have the money or need the software. She's a lousy prospect.

      So who cares if she goes out and pirates their software? That does not represent a lost sale. Adobe was never gonna have her business to begin with.

      You don't "market" a product to everybody. Or if you hate the word "marketing" we can say this: you dont' create and sell a product and hope literally everybody and their brother will buy a copy for one dollar apiece. Different products appeal to different people. Photoshop is high end software programmed for people who need it and can afford to pay for it. People who aren't in the "market" for such a product because they don't understand it and can't afford it are a waste of adobe's time. Trying to appeal to them AND to the high end at the same time would result in software that is middling, and pleases no one. Adobe knows their audience, knows what it can afford, and knows how to please them.

      Nothing to do with which college you went to. It's just about figuring out where the money is and not wasting your time with everyone else.

    4. Re:yeah by virgilp · · Score: 1

      It's amazing how many people from Slashdot are better at marketing and pricing than Adobe's executives. And yet, last time I checked Adobe turned in a nice profit.... people are still buying CS4 despite the fact that CS5 is about to launch ;)

    5. Re:yeah by unity100 · · Score: 1

      So why should Adobe lower the price for her?

      because its logic. because, there is no real shit named 'market'. its just a made up assumption by various field people and academicians. people do not need, and do not have to behave as per how the participants of a 'market' is expected to behave.

      and you cant fight people. and lo, photoshop is being pirated. instead of changing their business model to fit the needs of the people, they are just sticking to the old shit, ie behaving like everything that is sold can be classified as 'product' and they are equivalent to selling refrigerators. and then suffer piracy.

      market dictates not only prices, but also business models. if you dont update yours and fit the behavior of the people, then you suffer. and there is nobody to criticize but yourself.

    6. Re:yeah by ExileOnHoth · · Score: 1

      Well I can see you've got capitalism all figured out. go out there and knock'em dead, tycoon!

    7. Re:yeah by unity100 · · Score: 1

      unfortunately i cant. opportunity only exists in the opening stages of a market, in which there are no established grand market holders. (like in early 19th century america, like internet in 90s). after that point you cant come in and set yourself up, unless the established order accepts you in.

  55. For what it’s worth... by clone53421 · · Score: 1

    I found a higher-resolution (cropped) copy of the panorama used in the video:

    http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/7_deathvalley.jpg

    (According to the description here, photomerge, dodge, burn, and sponge were used, but basically only the colours have been changed.)

    Composite I made of image from YouTube video + image from the blog: here

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  56. Re:I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uh, no. That is the patch tool. If you'd read the article and watched the video you'd know that this is far more complex than that.

    The content aware healing brush and fill are taking hundreds of small sections from neighboring areas of the image and piecing them in.

  57. Re:STOP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Very kewl technology for its intended purpose. But also a great too for removing watermarks from images now.

    Why is Adobe supporting the pirating of images... [sarcasim]

  58. The Difference Between an Ad and "Holy Crap!!" by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm usually among the first in line to call Slashdot on its thinly-disguised slashvertisements, but this goes beyond product upgrade and into the realm of William Gibson novel.

    I'm kind of staggered just trying to wrap my head around the uses and implications...

    1. Re:The Difference Between an Ad and "Holy Crap!!" by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 1

      Use: Remove watermarks
      Implication: Piracy, as well as a lot of jobless graphic designers (who needs them when you can now just select and click)

    2. Re:The Difference Between an Ad and "Holy Crap!!" by gnud · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Implication: To get a job as a graphic designer you'll have to be a designer, not just have a photoshop tutorial under your belt.

  59. Re: Video applications by shidarin'ou · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The key thing is getting it not to chatter or flicker, which it probably will- as I doubt it will generate the exact same results frame to frame. Nevertheless- expect it to make matte painting, wire removal, etc a lot easier. I expect they'll use it to generate a quick starting point for clean plates, which will then be given further refinements and then composited in normally.

    After watching the video and seeing obvious problems even at 360p, it seems unlikely it'd hold up at 2k without some love at least.

  60. camera? what camera? by mugurel · · Score: 1

    a few more years and they'll make up the whole picture.

  61. stop astroturfing by pydev · · Score: 1

    I take it you didn't watch the video then?

    I did watch the video. Content-aware fill does roughly much what Resynth does. All the examples in that video work in Resynth.

  62. Dont trust the demo by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

    Looks like it has been photoshopped. Not real.

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  63. I dont understand by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

    Sounds like something Google Street View could use to remove people from their views and make them more acceptable.

    Why would people become more acceptable if they are removed from Google Street View?

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    1. Re:I dont understand by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      I’m already removed from my view, unless I’m looking in a mirror I suppose. It just makes no sense...

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  64. So ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How well does it handle boobs?

  65. Video? by paimin · · Score: 1

    I want this tool in Final Cut. It would take insanely long to process, but man oh man would it be useful.

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    1. Re:Video? by Petrushka · · Score: 1

      Yes, video. Not commercially yet, but it's on its way. Take a look at Using Photographs to Enhance Videos of a Static Scene, from 2007. It's ... rather impressive. Removal of defects and occluding objects is shown in the demo video at 00:44 onwards and 6:00 onwards.

      Judging from the results of several Google searches, one of the people credited for the demo, Aseem Agarwala, works for Adobe -- look for interesting things in After Effects CS5. One of the others, Pravin Bhat, apparently works for Weta Digital; and two of the others, Michael Cohen and Sing Bing Kang, are with Microsoft. The rest appear to be academics.

    2. Re:Video? by Petrushka · · Score: 1

      Addendum: there's a link to a higher-quality QuickTime copy of the demo video, and also a Youtube copy if you dislike Vimeo.

  66. Re: Video applications by gknoy · · Score: 1

    Very true. It just means that they'll be able to fund even more interesting research into it. :D

    Eventually, I bet you'd be able to 'shop out the annoying drunk guy on the fringe of your family beach videos, but I expect that seeing it on the big screen (on in commercials) is only a few years away. Frighteningly, I predict that it could also be used for news manipulation -- hide those protesters, hide this pile of bodies, etc. Still, technology is still just a tool, and it's neat to see this sort of research.

  67. One word: wow! by bradley13 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just "wow". Everyone who has spent tedious hours "fixing" some piece of "almost" perfect photography just fell off of their chairs.

    I haven't bothered upgrading anything but InDesign in recent years - the old Photoshop (or even GIMP) was good enough. This is a reason to upgrade!

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    1. Re:One word: wow! by BitZtream · · Score: 1

      I would just like to point out what you consider to be 'almost perfect' photography needing a little 'fixing' is probably perfect photography that you are giving a little 'messing up'.

      A perfect photograph has blemishes.

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  68. You should see After Effects CS5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCr96ldClz4&feature=related

    Same stuff except with real time video. Amazing.

  69. Re:STOP! by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

    Stop with the ads! That's like the 4th one today.

    News Flash: Most of the 'news for nerds' we care about involves products we can go buy. You're going to have to try another meme to earn a mod point.

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  70. There's also Liquid Rescale... by phallstrom · · Score: 1

    I'm not into graphics much, but this seems similar to what Liquid Rescale can do.

    http://liquidrescale.wikidot.com/en:examples

    At the 3:45 mark in the first video they show removing elements.

  71. Re: Video applications by gknoy · · Score: 1

    Also ... it's only remotely on topic, but your FX reel (on the site you have in your sig) is pretty cool.

    The skin effects in the Iron Man footage are neat, but the manufactured buildings and landscape composites are fantastic examples of the relative realism of manipulated videos. I really liked the live comparisons of "original" and "retouched" bits, because it was often fairly hard to know what I was looking for (esp on the digital makeup effects in the Iron Man clip). I'm sure it would have been even more interesting had I watched the higher resolution videos. Awesome!

  72. Thieves beware by Macka · · Score: 1

    It entered the land of bittorrent download and piracy years ago

    And is now lightly sprinkled with a tasty cocktail of viruses and malware. It will serve you right when your thieving ways are rewarded with an empty bank account. If you want free, do it the responsible way and go open source!

    1. Re:Thieves beware by ultranova · · Score: 1

      And is now lightly sprinkled with a tasty cocktail of viruses and malware. It will serve you right when your thieving ways are rewarded with an empty bank account.

      I've never once gotton a virus or malware from an unofficial version. I've gotten plenty of malware from official versions.

      Buying a software product (or even a CD nowadays) from a store is a much higher risk than downloading it from BitTorrent.

      If you want free, do it the responsible way and go open source!

      Gimp on Windows refuses to recognize my tablet every time I start it. I need to reset all settings and restart to get it working. Thanks, but no thanks.

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    2. Re:Thieves beware by Macka · · Score: 1

      Either you're the luckiest man alive, or you're bullshitting. It's extremely easy to find examples of malware infected versions of photoshop from torrent and other wares sites. Just google for it.

      I also know people who've picked up malware from downloading other files (e.g. mp3's) when using limewire for example to trawl p2p and torrent networks. So I'll see your anecdotal evidence and raise you one.

  73. Something to make my life easier by cyberworm · · Score: 1

    As a photographer and retoucher, this looks to be something worth while. As others have mentioned earlier, there are probably some things that will need to be taken care of around edges and stuff, but still, this could save some serious time and headaches. I think the next step for Adobe should be a "beautify" filter, and then I can stop thinking to myself "Oh god, what have I gotten myself into," when I meet some of my clients for the first time.

  74. Re:STOP! by Minwee · · Score: 0

    So is the Mr. Clean Magic Eraser...

    But that's for cleaning things. You're not supposed to sniff it.

  75. The potential for law enforcement is HUGE by shadowrat · · Score: 1

    This looks like something from CSI. Couple that with infinite zoom and 4 huge monitors in a dark room and you could reconstruct court admissible evidence with ease!

    i can't wait till someone is convicted of murder because content aware fill draws them in a picture taken next to an alley where the crime took place!

    1. Re:The potential for law enforcement is HUGE by djlemma · · Score: 1

      Actually, I am pretty sure techniques like this were used to identify child pornographers. Police would get their hands on an offending image, use tools like this to remove the pornographic parts, and end up with an image that could be sent out to help identify the hotel in which the photos were taken, or whatever.

  76. How well does this technology work for literature? by Hadlock · · Score: 1

    It seems to have intelligent pattern awareness. I'd love to plug something like an image of the rosetta stone into it and have it fill in the words in the correct languages of the broken off parts. Or maybe use it to translate documents from one language to another based on it's pattern recognition (scanned pages, after all, are just complex patterns of words - nouns, verbs and adjectives)

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  77. Can be done with The Gimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I quickly grabbed some screen shots of the images used in the demo and ran them through the GIMP "Smart remove selection" resynthesizer plugin (http://logarithmic.net/pfh/resynthesizer). The results were pretty good.

    I uploaded the screen capture to http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=1sgw88&s=5

  78. What about Resynthesizer? Well.. example within by Animaether · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's a very cool GIMP plugin for some things, but...

    This is my source image:
    http://s3.images.com/huge.28.142421.JPG

    I want to remove the lady on the right, so I select her:
    http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/1346/resynthesizerselection.jpg

    And then, per the Resynthesizer page's recommendations, I use "Script-Fu/Enhance/Smart remove selection..."
    http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/228/resynthesizerresultradi.jpg

    Oh dear.

    Anybody with access to the Photoshop beta feature want to give that image a stab? For all I know it fails just as spectacularly - but from the research it's based on, I highly suspect it'll fare better.

  79. Re:I for one by canajin56 · · Score: 1

    He's not saying the clonestamp has been in there since CS4 and this just automated it. The clonestamp has been in Photoshop since the dawn of time. He's saying this exact tool has been in there since the last version, so it's not technically "new". And robotics cars ARE basically intelligent automated cars, that's the whole damn point. Just because you somehow think writing "intelligent, automated" software is trivial, doesn't mean that any time somebody uses those words, they must be dismissing it as well...

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  80. Great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now your ex-girlfriend won't even need to tear holes off her group photos.
    At least I can finally fix those scary faces of lurkers in pics for "when you see it, you'll shit bricks" pics.

    Freedom of "speech" lawsuits coming in 5...4...3...2...

  81. Re:What about Resynthesizer? Well.. example within by clone53421 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Considering that the regular image clone tool did that in one click (well, not counting tracing a selection and setting the clone source), I don’t think it’s a very good test image.

    (I used GIMP, not PS, if it makes a difference.)

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  82. Re:STOP! by nacturation · · Score: 1

    I wouldn't call this an ad. This is legitimately really fucking cool.

    So is the Mr. Clean Magic Eraser...

    Come on... that's just cheap melamine foam with some extraordinary marketing and retail markup.

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  83. Re: Video applications by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  84. Re:What about Resynthesizer? Well.. example within by Animaether · · Score: 1

    Considering that the regular image clone tool did that in one click, I don't think it's a very good test image./blockquote>

    You do realize that makes it a perfect test image, right? It means that there is, in fact, a very high texture correspondence - you don't even have to mess with luminance gradients or anything. An algorithm that is designed to do this very sort of thing should, thus, be able to find (a) proper texture source(s) and fill in the part you want to remove.

    I can certainly repeat the same with a more complex image - it's not going to fare much better, though.

  85. Re:What about Resynthesizer? Well.. example within by clone53421 · · Score: 1

    You picked it out. :p

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  86. Okay, I admit it. by Tarlus · · Score: 1

    That's pretty fucking cool.

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  87. Re:What about Resynthesizer? Well.. example within by Animaether · · Score: 3, Interesting

    darn blockquote fail :)

    I know I picked it out - what about it?

    I didn't pick it out to specifically make Resynthesizer fail - it's image #2 on images.google.com for 'person in field' (sans quotes).

    For an example that does work with Resynthesizer, try:
    http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/0f/33/e2/so-cool.jpg

    Select the top-left dark thing, run the Resynthesizer script-fu - voila... dark thing removed, and sky filled in pretty well.

    The problem is that this is entirely hit-or-miss.. and it's far more often miss than hit.. and then -when- it is a miss, it's a spectacular miss (as in that person-in-field image).

  88. My alternative by caywen · · Score: 1

    I'd just fill the selection with stars, hydrogen dust, and asteroids. That is, after all, contextual to everything and is never completely wrong.

  89. Re: Video applications by shidarin'ou · · Score: 1

    Well, there's really nothing stopping people who want to manipulate the news to do so now- remember that photo Iran used to show it launched a bunch of missiles- but it turns out 2 of them were photoshopped in?

    We commonly now do things like crowd removal, crowd duplication, removing garbage (AKA bodies?) from shots- and the software is all desktop based that will run okay on cheap PCs. The difference is the skill that accomplishes those things is still based in people- people who for the most part are based in Australia, US, UK, Europe.

    The up and coming VFX regions are India, China and the Indochina area. Right now they're used for cheap basic film tasks; but in 10 years they'll have the technique and expertise down and a few shops there could easily match what the average shop here puts out.

    With stuff like this in video, it's probably a little cause for concern but even if the technology is 5 years away, it'll still be detectable in 5 years if they don't have the talent to clean it up normally.

    Now, 20 years from now.. Oh boy.

  90. Re: Video applications by johanatan · · Score: 1

    I think your parent was suggesting that the smoothing algorithm could take into account more than one frame at a time (hence no flickering or chattering).

  91. Re: Video applications by shidarin'ou · · Score: 1

    Thanks man! Truth be told, I really need to remove that Love Guru building shot from the reel- it's only there to demonstrate that I know(knew?) Massive, a crowd generating software. It's not a very good example of compositing :(

    Before and Afters are really critical to see what was done in a shot and how well it was done- but most VFX shops/Movie studios refuse to give befores to artists.. and then those same shops/studios when hiring ask for reels with before/afters- how the heck is that supposed to work?

    Since that reel (I need to update it.. that's like mid 08), I've done work on Benjamin Button, Star Trek, Night at the Museum 2 and a little movie called Cabin in the Woods; but I won't have befores for any of those :(

  92. Re: That's not AE CS5 by shidarin'ou · · Score: 1

    That's not AE CS5, that's a student project demonstrated at Siggraph a year(2?) ago. I'm sure Adobe would love the technology, and might have made moves to buy it, but that video is straight from the student demo.

  93. Re:I for one by moosesocks · · Score: 1

    Watch the video linked to by the parent poster. It's arguably even more impressive than Adobe's demo...

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  94. Re:I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just curious: do you read all of the comments you respond to, or just the first few words; and then log in with your "moderator" account to mod yourself up a bit?

  95. Great, have they figured out how to deal with case by BitZtream · · Score: 1

    sensitive file systems yet?

    How many releases do you need to fix whatever retarded things you're doing to filenames to make case sensitivity a freaking issue?

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  96. Re:What about Resynthesizer? Well.. example within by upeters · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is what I got very quickly with Alien Skin's Image Doctor: http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1785/edited28142421.jpg

  97. Gimp has this feature too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought about purchasing Photoshop for this feature, but it turns out our productive geeks out there have already implemented a plugin for the GIMP.

    http://liquidrescale.wikidot.com/en:examples

    I've used it. It works!

  98. suspicions by jgowen · · Score: 1

    I suspect "Content Aware" means it *knows* it's fixing a lawn, or sky. The fix on the panaramic sky inserted a new cloud on the left! Cool, but will it know to insert a new zoo animal when you remove the concession stand in the zoo? The comment about seeing a detailed result is right-on, too; these things *often* look much better from a distance.

  99. Not impressed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been doing professional level photo retouching for almost 11 years. Although this looks like just a better version of the healing tool/Patch Tool with a new flashy name, you can still even in the small crappy video see blurred circles left behind on the edges of the grass and shadows. Tree removal? Looks ok on a 480p, 3 inch wide video - print that image 20x30 and let me see how seamless and unnoticeable that removal is.

    I like the direction it's going - although I highly doubt it's there yet...and it really wouldn't have taken that long to remove that tree manually using perfected techniques or the poles/shadows for that matter. How does it look removing a gouge/scratch from someones plaid shirt in a photo restoration? My guess would be - not so good.

  100. LiquidRescale by pydev · · Score: 1

    Another useful "advanced" plugin is LiquidRescale:

    http://liquidrescale.wikidot.com/

    It implements seam carving. It's not yet available as an Ubuntu package, but hopefully someone will package it up.

    1. Re:LiquidRescale by moteyalpha · · Score: 1

      I believe this includes liquid rescale and I just got it.
      apt-get install gimp-plugin-registry
      Thanks again. I looked at your blog and found the Ted Talk by Rebecca Saxe on the brain, that was very informative and a bit scary.The other discussions and links were useful too.
      I agree about python too. Don't know how I got anything done before I learned it.

  101. Re:STOP! by LordKronos · · Score: 1

    True, it does make it easier to do now. However, it was always possible, just more work.

    As usual, you take the good of progress with the bad. I've never considered watermarks to be a good way of protecting images. I watermark mine, but I usually want my name to be very visible, so when possible I try to put the watermark in the most solid colored corner. I know it's going to make it easier to clone out, but it's also easier to read. I take a lesson from the many complains of DRM. You can't stop the bad people, so don't focus on them....focus on your actual (or potential) customers. If someone is bent on stealing my image, I really can't stop them, so I try not to worry about it so much (and deal with it on a one-off basis after the fact if I find out). Instead, I'll concern myself more with making my watermark easier to read so people can more easily see who took the photo (provided someone doesn't remove the watermark, but again, nothing much I can do about it, so I don't worry).

    Aside from that, your best mechanism of protection of your work (at least from my point of view as a part-time professional photographer) is to downsample what you post online. At least it gives me some sort of protection that dishonest people can't deal with. At least until this sort of smart fill is adapted in the next version or two of photoshop to become a smart resample (though that's got it's limits, because important details and textures may be lost in the downsample and not recoverable).

  102. Goodbye Watermarks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now people can get rid of all those annoying watermarks on images that people don't want you to use!

  103. Re:What about Resynthesizer? Well.. example within by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Resynthesizer worked pretty good for me. see http://www.mesamike.org/misc/resynthesize-result.jpg.

  104. MS Digital Imaging does this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft Digital Imaging 9.0 and 10.0 has this ability built in. The tool is called "smart erase", and fills in a selected area with patterns from the surrounding photo. I've had it match the pinstripes on my shirt in photos. This is a great product that has unfortunately been discontinued by Microsoft much like Flight Simulator. Even when the software was first released, it did not retail for over $50.00, much more bang for your buck than photoshop.

  105. The Last Photo has a bird flying! by RockoW · · Score: 1

    I'm very impressed but in the last picture (the landscape one) i think that is really impossible. The process even put a flying bird in the upper left corner. It doesn't feel like that is even possible.

    1. Re:The Last Photo has a bird flying! by millennial · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure the whole thing is either a hoax demo intended to drum up buyers, or a really early April Fool's prank.

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    2. Re:The Last Photo has a bird flying! by ytpete · · Score: 1

      Uh, dude, that's not a bird... it's the mouse cursor. Watch a few seconds earlier and you'll see the spinning progress cursor in the same exact location.

  106. Re:What about Resynthesizer? Well.. example within by shish · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is what I get using the plugin on its own: http://shishnet.org/ufufuf/resynth2.jpg

    Do note that the script-fu wrapper works better for larger images, which this isn't

    Also, the example from the video, done with gimp instead, the results are pretty similar (IMO, better, but I'm pretty sure that the "improvements" are just luck): http://shishnet.org/ufufuf/panorama-synth.png

    Having been using the resynthesizer for years, I've developed a knack for which source images will work well and which won't, and the thing that struck me about that video was that the source images are pretty much ideal conditions -- I'll be impressed when they can get good results on the images that aren't so clean :-)

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  107. Here, via WinImages (my product): by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

    sample and fix, total fix time, about 3 seconds, two operations. Which is not to say that the Photoshop tool isn't cool; it is. But these aren't difficult tasks unless you simply have little skill at image editing. The video talks about those tiny, super-easy edits of the scene with the tree and bench as taking "all day"... that's a spit coffee, LOL moment, right there. Total fixup time for that image, same issues addressed... maybe five minutes or so. The best part of the demo was the outward fix of the missing sky on the panorama; that would take at least five minutes by itself with the tools I have (to do it as nicely.)

    I'm sure the new CS will be great. All of Adobe's releases are great. The only thing better than CS is the marketing behind it. :)

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  108. Re:STOP! by WillDraven · · Score: 1

    Only if you don't really care what the surface looks like afterwards. You almost always end up with a change in the reflectivity of the surface afterwards. I put a couple of shiny spots on my flat interior walls before realizing what was happening. We decided to go back to using 409, paper towels, and elbow grease.

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  109. Re:What about Resynthesizer? Well.. example within by shish · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Just tried expanding a panorama as in the demo too, and resynthesizer does that pretty well too (please ignore the fact that the source material is REALLY shittily exposed, it was shot on a mobile phone with no manual exposure mode :( ):

    original
    expanded

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  110. bye bye baby jesus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now i can remove every baby jesus from every manger.

  111. Re:What about Resynthesizer? Well.. example within by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Filled using the "Content-Aware Fill" feature:
    http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6178/huge28142421out.png

  112. Re:What about Resynthesizer? Well.. example within by Animaether · · Score: 1

    Cool - that does look a lot better; still not as good as the fellow-commenter's quick clone brush (rubber stamp yadda) effort which I think would be a more natural path for a texture synthesis plugin to take, but a lot better than what I kept getting.

    So - obvious question: workflow / parameters? Obviously I missed something (I did play with the parameters, the sky was pretty much stuck in there). Just wanting to see if I missed something (non-)obvious that might make Resynthesizer work on more images I've had trouble with in the past.

    I'd still imagine Adobe's new toy would work better (it has its own flaws - which the presenter is quick to scroll out of view), but I'll gladly stand corrected on Resynthesizer's typical results.

  113. Re:What about Resynthesizer? Well.. example within by shish · · Score: 3, Informative

    obvious question: workflow / parameters?

    Generally I use the foreground select tool* to select the smallest area to cover the object, then grow selection by a few pixels so that none of the object's edges are poking out and confusing it, then filters - map - resynthesize (ie, use the plugin rather than the script), and have the "tilable" options disabled since they tend to grab samples from the opposite edge of the image (if I want a tilable image, I'll use the tiling filter separately...)

    Probably the biggest factor for simple success is to have the object you want to remove be on its own (surrounded on all sides by similar textures) -- if it isn't, then you need to do things the long way -- eg, if you want to remove the leftmost wheelchair from this image, and you want it to be replaced by grass when three of its borders are touching non-grass, then you'll find that it ends up somewhat messy since it attempts to merge four different edge textures. In this case you'll need to copy a section of your desired fill texture (ie, a rectangle of pure grass) into a separate image (specifically, a single layer image with no transparency); then on the original image select the object to remove, open resynthesizer, and select the "fill texture" image as the texture source; this way the generated texture will both match the surroundings of the original as much as possible, while being filled with the "surroundings" that you've specifically chosen. Having taken a sample of "pure grass" and a sample of "pure stone", then removing the top and bottom halves of the wheelchair with each respectively, the results are nicer. (with the exception that the first two images were produced with a mouse and twenty minutes of careful selecting, and the final one was 5 minutes work with a laptop nipple, so there are still some bits of wheelchair poking out of the sides...)

    Incidentally, does photoshop have SIOX yet? Having the features "vaguely scribble in the general area of an object to have the object selected precisely" and "automatically and realistically remove a selection" could potentially combine to form "one-click realistic object removal" \o/

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  114. Sort of buggy... by marciot · · Score: 1

    As much as I like open source, I just downloaded Resynthesizer and it was very much hit and miss. I did as some people suggested and took screen shots of the YouTube video and tried to reproduce things in the GIMP. I was able to very successfully remove the tree from the sky of the first shot, but when I tried removing the trash and the poles, I got weird sky colored patches in the grass. The desert road got replaced with sky. And on the last photo, Resynthesizer did a very decent job on the clouds, but filled in part below the mountains with sky. I tried this with several of my own photos and consistently Resynthesizer seemed to show a bias towards filling everything with sky.

    So, I am lead to conclude that while in principle Resynthesizer might be useful, in its current implementation it is very buggy and gives very unpredictable results. If Context-Aware Fill makes it into a release of Photoshop, I'm sure Adobe will have spent a lot of time and effort going the last mile and eliminating all the wonky corner cases.

    It's *possible* that the video showcased an one in a million image for which this technology works particularly well, but I don't think Adobe would ever release a product which makes obvious mistakes most of the times. If they are seriously planning to release this, it's likely they've done considerable tuning to the algorithm and have gotten it to behave in most cases.

  115. Obvious hoax is obvious by millennial · · Score: 1

    Bit early for April Fool's Day, but the last image proves it. There is no way in hell that any program would take the upward curve of the hill in the lower-right background and turn it into a DOWNWARD curve. That's something that you could only possibly know to do if you had an original image where the hill curved downward. Not to mention all the cloud detail that simply does not exist anywhere in the panorama.

    Clearly all they've done is *added* a bunch of things to images (or in the case of the 'panorama', just deleted part of it to fake a panorama), then "used the tool" to "remove" them.

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  116. No more looting... by nixkuroi · · Score: 1

    Next time, Hurricane survivors won't be accused of looting, they'll simply be edited out of the shot and the news will say that everyone escaped unharmed. :-o

  117. PaintShop Photo Pro X3 by EricTheO · · Score: 1

    "Smart Carver - Seamlessly remove objects from an image with professional quality. The Smart Carver also lets you expand or contract objects without distortion."

    This tool may not be quite as sophisticated but it's cheaper than CS5 Photoshop.

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  118. Re:I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Another option is G'MIC and it's inpaint feature (unfortunately the algorithm is not able to reconstruct textures).

  119. Re:STOP! by rdnetto · · Score: 1

    It's also not that new. My MATLAB lecturer demonstrated the same thing with static pictures last week and explained how it works. It doesn't too difficult to apply that to a video, if you just add another dimension and compare frames to identify scene changes.

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  120. yeaah by unity100 · · Score: 1

    and because, wisdom and rationale and logic are only conferred to people who go to a scholastic, rigid education institution right ? this is the reason why we had innumerable numbers of self-schooled, or even unschooled geniuses back in 19th century ....

    sarcasm off.

    turning in a nice profit does not mean you cant turn in even more.

    you have to fit your business model with the behavior of the people and times. not only your price.

  121. Re:STOP! by clone53421 · · Score: 1

    if you just add another dimension and compare frames to identify scene changes.

    Which, incidentally, is exactly what video encoding with compression does. Insert a single key frame with edits, and you may have changed several seconds worth of video with no need to actually edit them.

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  122. Re:STOP! by tom17 · · Score: 1

    VERY interesting, thank you. My wife loves this but it's ridiculously $$$ for what it is (A small piece of BASF Basotect V 3012 foam). I just tried looking for suppliers in Ontario and haven't found anything yet. I also just phoned BASF Canada and they don't supply or sell finished products.

    No sign of melamine foam or Basotect on fleabay either.

    I wonder when I can get it.

    Tom...

  123. Re:STOP! by dpastern · · Score: 1

    Yup, agreed. That's some seriously nice bit of tool there. I've skipped CS3 and CS4, looks like CS5 is the one to get ;-)

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  124. Re:STOP! by nacturation · · Score: 1

    Try here: http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?SearchText=melamine+foam

    You may need to order it by the container load, but that's where I'd start.

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  125. Video easier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would think video, being multiple still images, would actually be easier to do. As an object moves from frame to frame, it would reveal more background that could be used in other frames.

    Umm, of course if the background is moving or changing a lot, that could make it harder!

  126. Finally I'll be able to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uncrop those old photos! I always wondered what my great-great-grandmothers only half visible-in-an-old-photograph dog really looked like.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUFkb0d1kbU

  127. More unbelieveable examples of content-aware fill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some even better examples of this awesome content-aware feature:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ScWu7pG7r0

    So amazing!

  128. You can do this now by Jeremy+Traub · · Score: 1

    You can do this now using Mokey from Imagineer Systems. It patches together an idea of what an occluded background plane looks like (similar to CS5's Content-Aware Fill), but then goes on to track that plane over the occuluding object, thereby removing it. Here's a quick demo: http://vimeo.com/7533880

  129. Re:I for one by JobyOne · · Score: 1

    Do you actually read the comments you snark at anonymously?

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  130. Re:What about Resynthesizer? Well.. example within by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've taken a shot at it, in the beta version:

    http://lh5.ggpht.com/_6FsRfRNHJ8Q/S7L4e-cb2MI/AAAAAAAAC4I/fl6C3dtl07g/huge.28.142421%5B1%5D.jpg

    Seems pretty good to me for 30 sec work :)