Thanks for the info. Generally, I like to run stable release builds of distros. Also, it's nice that the distros are up-to-date, but what about the packages in apt-get repository. It's been awhile since I last tried Debian (apt-get rocks, of course), but the version of Postgres in the repository at the time was 6.5 even though 7 had been out for quite some time. I noticed other updated versions that were absent from the repository also, but I can't remember them as it's been awhile.
I can usually get the latest RPM of insert-your-favorite-software-here, but rarely the.deb. Correct me if I'm wrong?
I'm not sure I understand the FAQ. I can understand why they made this move ($$$), but what impact will it have on me as a RedHat-on-the-Desktop user who doesn't want to dish out $179 bones for the RHEL WS edition? Is Fedora still going to be fairly fresh, or will it turn into Debian?
*sigh*, Now I get to tell people I'm running "Fedora" Linux. Might be a good time to check out SuSe again.
"I LOVE GATOR!
It is the GREATEST!
I love how it remembers and fills in all of my passwords at the various websites that I visit. And of course I also love how it fills in the forms for me. I also love GATOR because it is very easy to use. I learned how to use it in seconds. GATOR RULES!" -Thanks,
S. Rubin, Las Vegas, Nevada
Either S. Rubin isn't aware that to "fill in" this information automatically it must, in fact, KEEP TRACK OF IT (no matter, it doesn't send THAT information to anyone, right?), or perhaps she is employed by or a partner of Gator, Inc. Either way, I think she should change her name to S. Rube.
> I don't see the point in anything higher than 1.5-2MP unless you're printing out your photos.
Are you nuts? Have you seen the quality that comes out of 1 megapixel cameras? I used to own one and was overjoyed to replace it with my Nikon Coolpix 990. Just because I'm not a professional photographer doesn't mean I don't want nice looking pictures. Do you like noise and speckles all over pictures of your kids that you are hoping to keep for a long time? I'm not talking about photos for eBay here...
> Plus, concidering you're probably going to be sending these images over the 3G network, where you'll be charged by bandwidth...
Who says I would send them to anyone? I usually take pictures to put on my web site. So since it's possible to send these photos, that automatically means I want crappy looking photos all the time??
I stand by my original comment - <2 megapixel cameras are CRAP.
I generally don't drool over 1.1 megapixel cameras. Let me know when they release something that is at least 3MP and then I'll start to drool. Until then, anything with the picture quality of a today's webcams is crap in my book.
> How many people have Linux "Zealots" killed in the past year?
Maybe not Linux zealots, but other kinds of zealots:
1. "Pro-Life" activists
2. Anti-development environmentalists with arsonous tendencies
3. Anti-homosexual religious freaks
4. Racial hate groups
Hmmm, on second thought, I don't think Linux fanboys fit in with any of those. I do think the DDoS attacks on SCO are hillarious and well-deserved, though. If you let yourself get stepped on people will walk all over you.
> and now with cable companies rolling out HD in a very lame way by only supplying massively compressed channels effectively removing any advantages fo HDTV.
You make a good point. The signal received is only as good as its source. I noticed this on my (explitive deleted) Charter cable service. I was getting poor Fox reception on the analog service, and Fox is one of the channels I regularly watch and record from. I decided to get digital cable because it was supposed to be clearer, right?
Nope. My stations were just as bad as before, leading me to believe Charter Communications simply rebroadcasts a signal they receive on a commodity antenna.
The truly amazing part is the connections on the back of the receiver. My digital box only has analog RCA outputs on it! So I get this crappy digital signal from the cable company only to transport it to my television via analog cables. Sadly, they don't have an S-Video model of their cable box available:( WTF?!
My parents have satellite television, and although the menu is often painfully slow to load, they're paying a lot less and getting DVD-quality pictures on their massive Sony television. The difference between satellite and analog->digital->analog cable is amazing. Too bad you can't get local channels on satellite unless you live in one of 3 metropolis' in the U.S.
Don't even get me started on how much Charter cable modems suck...
I did something similar too. I didn't like the hard drive constantly running so I ran the executable off of a network share at work so my home computer wouldn't get its drive hit.:)
I think they might have been testing this for some time now. The $9.95 unlimited Internet access from Walmart looks and sounds eerily similar to AOL (similar packaging and marketing). I thought AOL *couldn't* be selling Walmart access for so much cheaper than they are offering it to their own customers, but it looks like that is in fact what they were doing.
> print center finds printers pretty well in my experience
Is print center the same as finder, or is it a third party add-on? I don't think we had it installed on the Macs where I worked.:(
> Sorry to disappoint, but browsers on the mac have had proper PNG support for a while
I don't get it. My PNG images, created with Paint Shop Pro, seem to appear on all other platforms except the Mac. What do you think the problem is? PSP writing bad images or Mac being too picky?
> hmm, so it's not Windows, and you're too lazy to adjust to the different UI concepts, that's your problem?
I wasn't trying to be simply Windows-centric. Many of the problems I mentioned I don't have issue with on KDE (although printers on Linux can be a nightmare too).
No, I meant more difficult to use in general. I don't think they're easy to use at all. When I used to work at a Help Desk, we would see people come in constantly cursing about not being able to get something to convert or work on a Mac and it made it more difficult to help them because Macs are so proprietary in nature (ie, Think Different). Something as simple as copying something to the desktop (which then disappears when you eject the disk) or connect to a network share was often a daunting task. Windows? Start -> Run -> \\server\share$ -> [Enter].
I think the eject mechanism alone is confusing on a Mac. You have to hit Alt-Y (clean up?) to eject the disk or the Mac gets confused for some reason. Why can't I go to Special -> Eject? Then I have the nightmare of programs getting caught in a continuous loop asking for the disk to be inserted, only to be remedied by a force quit. There is no 'Y' in eject and I don't usually associate "Clean Up" with ejecting a disk. Also, trashing things has different effects. As far as I know, trashing a CD or floppy is very different from trashing a hard drive. Why would I want to trash it anyway? I just want to eject it! Non-intuitive.
Macs don't seem to support PNG images either. I often get e-mails from Mac users bitching about images not showing up on my web site. They work fine on every other platform! PNG has been around long enough. Live in the now!
Mapping and finding a printer is a DAUNTING task at an organization with many printers, but I won't get into that for my memories of all the chaos and confusion of navigating the finder to locate shared printers while working at the Help Desk is fading, and I wish to keep it that way.
I also think the file explorer on a Mac is weak, but that's personal opinion I suppose. I think Mac SLIP and Mac PPP are unusual too.
I can understand the argument for replacing Windows machines with a KDE or Gnome (more secure and you're not tied to Microsoft technology), but what is the benefit of Mac OS in the work place? Just seems like you're making things more difficult than they need be for a higher price (you get security and you're not tied to Microsoft as much, but it costs more and is more difficult to use).
I think it would make more cents to migrate to Linux than Mac OS. I don't consider myself to be a Linux desktop fanboy either - I run Windows on the desktop at home and work and Linux on the server.
I can't remember the last time I saw on Slashdot a link to Goatse.cx get modded so high. If there was anyone left who hadn't yet ventured into the bowels of -1 and saw this atrocity, they have now!:)
1. If you never take incoming calls on your data line, why not just put a fake number? 2. Isn't it sad for a person to have to buy a second line just so telemarketters won't harass them?
Doesn't sound like the same Charter I know. Perhaps the problem is being in Wisconsin:P
I've had their service the last *three places I've lived*. Between transfer rates that approached dialup speeds to massive service outages, I was happy when SBC was available in my current apartment.
Charter ALWAYS had an excuse. Bad wiring, bad neighborhood, construction, too many devices on one line, blah blah blah. Well, SBC seems to have no problem getting DSL, which is notorious for being picky, to my house trouble free and 100% reliable. Regardless of whose fault it is, SBC doesn't make excuses (I can't believe I'm actually in favor of the telephone company. I never though this day would come!)
In their defense, my parents have Time Warner cable modem, which has a fair amount of outages as well, which is why I think the problem lies within the technology itself. My sister-in-law and I both have SBC DSL on different sides of the state, and it has been flawless.
Find yourself an eNom reseller (there are lots). $10/year with DNS hosting and e-mail forwarding included, and their interface is pretty easy to use too. Gandi.net also has free DNS. Go Daddy is good, but their DNS hosting sucks (but they have private registrations, which is nice).
You can't keep track of two formats?;) DVD-RAM is gone, DVD-R/RW is cheaper, but DVD+R/RW is a somewhat superior technology and I believe it is poised to take the lead due to the industry heavyweights behind it. Now with this dual-layer coming out before the minus camp it will only encourage the + "standard".
Why haven't they agreed on a standard format for DVDs yet?
Why wouldn't Edison concede victory to Westinghouse's AC current for long range power? RCA/VHS to Sony/BetaMax?
> I am very, very concerned about this move. I run Linux on my Intel box with the current motherboard. Anyone got a good supply of fast PPC motherboards? I could do Linux that way, I guess....
Yeah, or buy a motherboard with a BIOS other than Phoenix or other Microsoft-infected BIOS.
Slashdot Mirror
Thanks for the info. Generally, I like to run stable release builds of distros. Also, it's nice that the distros are up-to-date, but what about the packages in apt-get repository. It's been awhile since I last tried Debian (apt-get rocks, of course), but the version of Postgres in the repository at the time was 6.5 even though 7 had been out for quite some time. I noticed other updated versions that were absent from the repository also, but I can't remember them as it's been awhile.
.deb. Correct me if I'm wrong?
I can usually get the latest RPM of insert-your-favorite-software-here, but rarely the
I'm not sure I understand the FAQ. I can understand why they made this move ($$$), but what impact will it have on me as a RedHat-on-the-Desktop user who doesn't want to dish out $179 bones for the RHEL WS edition? Is Fedora still going to be fairly fresh, or will it turn into Debian?
*sigh*, Now I get to tell people I'm running "Fedora" Linux. Might be a good time to check out SuSe again.
(please excuse my ignorance on this matter)
I love the customer testimonial.
"I LOVE GATOR! It is the GREATEST! I love how it remembers and fills in all of my passwords at the various websites that I visit. And of course I also love how it fills in the forms for me. I also love GATOR because it is very easy to use. I learned how to use it in seconds. GATOR RULES!" -Thanks, S. Rubin, Las Vegas, Nevada
Either S. Rubin isn't aware that to "fill in" this information automatically it must, in fact, KEEP TRACK OF IT (no matter, it doesn't send THAT information to anyone, right?), or perhaps she is employed by or a partner of Gator, Inc. Either way, I think she should change her name to S. Rube.
> I don't see the point in anything higher than 1.5-2MP unless you're printing out your photos.
Are you nuts? Have you seen the quality that comes out of 1 megapixel cameras? I used to own one and was overjoyed to replace it with my Nikon Coolpix 990. Just because I'm not a professional photographer doesn't mean I don't want nice looking pictures. Do you like noise and speckles all over pictures of your kids that you are hoping to keep for a long time? I'm not talking about photos for eBay here...
> Plus, concidering you're probably going to be sending these images over the 3G network, where you'll be charged by bandwidth...
Who says I would send them to anyone? I usually take pictures to put on my web site. So since it's possible to send these photos, that automatically means I want crappy looking photos all the time??
I stand by my original comment - <2 megapixel cameras are CRAP.
> Ok, time to wipe the drool off the keyboard! ;)
I generally don't drool over 1.1 megapixel cameras. Let me know when they release something that is at least 3MP and then I'll start to drool. Until then, anything with the picture quality of a today's webcams is crap in my book.
> How many people have Linux "Zealots" killed in the past year?
Maybe not Linux zealots, but other kinds of zealots:
1. "Pro-Life" activists
2. Anti-development environmentalists with arsonous tendencies
3. Anti-homosexual religious freaks
4. Racial hate groups
Hmmm, on second thought, I don't think Linux fanboys fit in with any of those. I do think the DDoS attacks on SCO are hillarious and well-deserved, though. If you let yourself get stepped on people will walk all over you.
> seems to me you also have been boycotting intelligence
As indicated by the suggestion that the U.S. "defend[ed] Saddam's regime".> at least it wasn't "kewl d3skt0p env."
I think you mean "k-rad d3skt0p environment".
> and now with cable companies rolling out HD in a very lame way by only supplying massively compressed channels effectively removing any advantages fo HDTV.
You make a good point. The signal received is only as good as its source. I noticed this on my (explitive deleted) Charter cable service. I was getting poor Fox reception on the analog service, and Fox is one of the channels I regularly watch and record from. I decided to get digital cable because it was supposed to be clearer, right?
Nope. My stations were just as bad as before, leading me to believe Charter Communications simply rebroadcasts a signal they receive on a commodity antenna.
The truly amazing part is the connections on the back of the receiver. My digital box only has analog RCA outputs on it! So I get this crappy digital signal from the cable company only to transport it to my television via analog cables. Sadly, they don't have an S-Video model of their cable box available :( WTF?!
My parents have satellite television, and although the menu is often painfully slow to load, they're paying a lot less and getting DVD-quality pictures on their massive Sony television. The difference between satellite and analog->digital->analog cable is amazing. Too bad you can't get local channels on satellite unless you live in one of 3 metropolis' in the U.S.
Don't even get me started on how much Charter cable modems suck...
So how much do you consider "a lot of money". One...hundred...BILLION dollars?
I did something similar too. I didn't like the hard drive constantly running so I ran the executable off of a network share at work so my home computer wouldn't get its drive hit. :)
C'mon, many a web site has been brought to its knees with a good Slashdotting.
At least it doesn't have the dreaded "MySQL: Too many connections in myfile.php on line 69" error.
I think they might have been testing this for some time now. The $9.95 unlimited Internet access from Walmart looks and sounds eerily similar to AOL (similar packaging and marketing). I thought AOL *couldn't* be selling Walmart access for so much cheaper than they are offering it to their own customers, but it looks like that is in fact what they were doing.
> print center finds printers pretty well in my experience
Is print center the same as finder, or is it a third party add-on? I don't think we had it installed on the Macs where I worked. :(
> Sorry to disappoint, but browsers on the mac have had proper PNG support for a while
I don't get it. My PNG images, created with Paint Shop Pro, seem to appear on all other platforms except the Mac. What do you think the problem is? PSP writing bad images or Mac being too picky?
> hmm, so it's not Windows, and you're too lazy to adjust to the different UI concepts, that's your problem?
I wasn't trying to be simply Windows-centric. Many of the problems I mentioned I don't have issue with on KDE (although printers on Linux can be a nightmare too).
No, I meant more difficult to use in general. I don't think they're easy to use at all. When I used to work at a Help Desk, we would see people come in constantly cursing about not being able to get something to convert or work on a Mac and it made it more difficult to help them because Macs are so proprietary in nature (ie, Think Different). Something as simple as copying something to the desktop (which then disappears when you eject the disk) or connect to a network share was often a daunting task. Windows? Start -> Run -> \\server\share$ -> [Enter].
I think the eject mechanism alone is confusing on a Mac. You have to hit Alt-Y (clean up?) to eject the disk or the Mac gets confused for some reason. Why can't I go to Special -> Eject? Then I have the nightmare of programs getting caught in a continuous loop asking for the disk to be inserted, only to be remedied by a force quit. There is no 'Y' in eject and I don't usually associate "Clean Up" with ejecting a disk. Also, trashing things has different effects. As far as I know, trashing a CD or floppy is very different from trashing a hard drive. Why would I want to trash it anyway? I just want to eject it! Non-intuitive.
Macs don't seem to support PNG images either. I often get e-mails from Mac users bitching about images not showing up on my web site. They work fine on every other platform! PNG has been around long enough. Live in the now!
Mapping and finding a printer is a DAUNTING task at an organization with many printers, but I won't get into that for my memories of all the chaos and confusion of navigating the finder to locate shared printers while working at the Help Desk is fading, and I wish to keep it that way.
I also think the file explorer on a Mac is weak, but that's personal opinion I suppose. I think Mac SLIP and Mac PPP are unusual too.
What's more importantly to you - eye candy or productivity? To a PHB?
I can understand the argument for replacing Windows machines with a KDE or Gnome (more secure and you're not tied to Microsoft technology), but what is the benefit of Mac OS in the work place? Just seems like you're making things more difficult than they need be for a higher price (you get security and you're not tied to Microsoft as much, but it costs more and is more difficult to use).
I think it would make more cents to migrate to Linux than Mac OS. I don't consider myself to be a Linux desktop fanboy either - I run Windows on the desktop at home and work and Linux on the server.
I can't remember the last time I saw on Slashdot a link to Goatse.cx get modded so high. If there was anyone left who hadn't yet ventured into the bowels of -1 and saw this atrocity, they have now! :)
1. If you never take incoming calls on your data line, why not just put a fake number?
2. Isn't it sad for a person to have to buy a second line just so telemarketters won't harass them?
> Why are you lumping gay porn in with child porn?
He's not necessarily lumping them together, the DC ops are. Apparently they don't like gay porn which isn't uncommon among heterosexual males.
Can't we all just get along and share our gay porn freely?
Doesn't sound like the same Charter I know. Perhaps the problem is being in Wisconsin :P
I've had their service the last *three places I've lived*. Between transfer rates that approached dialup speeds to massive service outages, I was happy when SBC was available in my current apartment.
Charter ALWAYS had an excuse. Bad wiring, bad neighborhood, construction, too many devices on one line, blah blah blah. Well, SBC seems to have no problem getting DSL, which is notorious for being picky, to my house trouble free and 100% reliable. Regardless of whose fault it is, SBC doesn't make excuses (I can't believe I'm actually in favor of the telephone company. I never though this day would come!)
In their defense, my parents have Time Warner cable modem, which has a fair amount of outages as well, which is why I think the problem lies within the technology itself. My sister-in-law and I both have SBC DSL on different sides of the state, and it has been flawless.
>> Some of the patents aren't even filed with the U.S. Patent Office
> How can you have a patent without be filed with the patent office?
I like how you synonymized the "U.S. Patent Office" with "THE patent office".
Find yourself an eNom reseller (there are lots). $10/year with DNS hosting and e-mail forwarding included, and their interface is pretty easy to use too. Gandi.net also has free DNS. Go Daddy is good, but their DNS hosting sucks (but they have private registrations, which is nice).
> I can't keep track of the -s and +s.
You can't keep track of two formats? ;) DVD-RAM is gone, DVD-R/RW is cheaper, but DVD+R/RW is a somewhat superior technology and I believe it is poised to take the lead due to the industry heavyweights behind it. Now with this dual-layer coming out before the minus camp it will only encourage the + "standard".
Why haven't they agreed on a standard format for DVDs yet?
Why wouldn't Edison concede victory to Westinghouse's AC current for long range power? RCA/VHS to Sony/BetaMax?
> I am very, very concerned about this move. I run Linux on my Intel box with the current motherboard. Anyone got a good supply of fast PPC motherboards? I could do Linux that way, I guess....
Yeah, or buy a motherboard with a BIOS other than Phoenix or other Microsoft-infected BIOS.