You guys in the UK really believe this tripe about special relationship (I have never heard this sentence used by the US president, most likley it is a New Labour mantra concoted by Alistair Campbell and Peter Mandelson).
Once and again your citizens are treated like dirt by the US judicial system, but you guys, stiff upper lift and all, keep asking for more of it (or at least your PM does).
Ask us, we know how it is to deal with the USians, this is summarized in a very popular Mexican saying "Poor Mexico! So far from God, and so close to the US!)"
The US is using a treaty that was put in place to fight terrorists.
The current goverment, always all so happy to oblige to the desires of the US administration, ratified this treaty without waiting for the more complicated US procedure. As things stand now the same treaty can't be applied tu US citizens. So in fact US hackers are free to do the same to UK based computers and they will live happily ever after to tell the tale.
And there is also the situation in which people allegedly commiting a crime in UK soil are not judged first there. Natural justice dictates that the local judicial system has always a first go at somebedoy accussed of commiting a crime, but the UK crown prosecution service is not even attempting to bring any charges (i.e. is ignoring that offences may have been commited in UK soil) in order to expedite the extradition procedures. This is scandalous.
The UK did it for Pinochet, unilaterally deciding that he was not fit to stand trial in Spain form his genocidial crimes that included Spanish citizens, but they can't do it for their own citizens (this is not the only case) when the US is the country requesting the extradition.
Extradition treaties with other countries are reciprocal, thus nobody is infurated when they are used to prosecute alleged criminals to answer for their actions in the country where they may have commited an offence.
-Using your prominence in one area to dominate another. -Conditional selling of products of services on condition that you buy or use a mandated product.
I see far too many comments considering that homosexual rape is a fit punishment for somebody.
You guys are barbaric, you presume to be civilized but in many ocassions you show ideas no better than the ones spoused by a Hutu or Serbian war criminal.
It speaks volumes about US society that many consider normal a situation in which inmates in jail can be abused, tortured or raped.
My first Linux production desktop was set up in 1995 (Slackware).
I had email, web browser, newsgroups reader, document processing was very simple so it suited my needs. I saved my employer a good amount of money on a time we were cash strapped.
People spending money there would surely be spending money in the RIAA shop.
RIAA and their dopelgangers worldwide don;t want to serve you, the consumer, they want to control you.
If you are all for that, great, enjoy.
Many chose legal options that are not trying to control us (and the legality of this website is still to be debated in the courts, and before anybody asks, I don't use them because there are other shops that actually care about costumers and artists as well).
Musicians should earn their living by actually, graps, playing live music.
Recording technologies just created an artificial situation, before the 20th century musicians had to actually work to earn a living, not make one recording and then sit back and relax.
If you are already working hard, good, but do not expect to make a living from recordings. It is frnkly immoral.
You are guessing about hoa many children will your realtives in the future have.
The study and the GP post deal with a mathematical certainity: the number of ancestors anybody has is 2, no more, no less. The interesting conclussion is that your family tree is not a neat tree where each node open 2 new branches, but that for certain many nodes originate different branches that coincide again in the future.
We know where you are comming from, it is patently obvious you will not see your own community's shortcomings and that you have been indoctrinated quite successfully.
The source code is not the capital. From dictonary.com the two defintions that have some bearing:
"Material wealth used or available for use in the production of more wealth." which code clearly isn't because it is not material (hint: it is copyrightable).
"Human resources considered in terms of their contributions to an economy" which may apply stretching the defintion to its limits, but one has to wonder how you measure the contribution of ideas (which source code is) tto an economy. Most economists don;t bother, so I don't see why we should.
Software has always been a service, companies are using all kind of artificial constructs to make it appear as a physical product, which it clearly isn't.
- I don't want to make bussiness with a company that has broken the law. - I want to use software that is safer to use. - I value the freedom to use software that benefits everybody, not only one given company"
I am tired of pro Windows zealots and astroturfers that keep patronizing Joe Average like if he was an idiot.
He may or may not agree with the ideas above, but he will understand them and will take a position ("No shit, I just want to play Half Life!" or "Tell me more pal, that sounds interesting").
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You guys in the UK really believe this tripe about special relationship (I have never heard this sentence used by the US president, most likley it is a New Labour mantra concoted by Alistair Campbell and Peter Mandelson).
Once and again your citizens are treated like dirt by the US judicial system, but you guys, stiff upper lift and all, keep asking for more of it (or at least your PM does).
Ask us, we know how it is to deal with the USians, this is summarized in a very popular Mexican saying "Poor Mexico! So far from God, and so close to the US!)"
The US is using a treaty that was put in place to fight terrorists.
The current goverment, always all so happy to oblige to the desires of the US administration, ratified this treaty without waiting for the more complicated US procedure. As things stand now the same treaty can't be applied tu US citizens. So in fact US hackers are free to do the same to UK based computers and they will live happily ever after to tell the tale.
And there is also the situation in which people allegedly commiting a crime in UK soil are not judged first there. Natural justice dictates that the local judicial system has always a first go at somebedoy accussed of commiting a crime, but the UK crown prosecution service is not even attempting to bring any charges (i.e. is ignoring that offences may have been commited in UK soil) in order to expedite the extradition procedures. This is scandalous.
The UK did it for Pinochet, unilaterally deciding that he was not fit to stand trial in Spain form his genocidial crimes that included Spanish citizens, but they can't do it for their own citizens (this is not the only case) when the US is the country requesting the extradition.
Extradition treaties with other countries are reciprocal, thus nobody is infurated when they are used to prosecute alleged criminals to answer for their actions in the country where they may have commited an offence.
Markets are too diverse for one industry to dominate them all.
Big companies also build inertias that make them less responsive to markets and thus less competitive.
.... you can't do either or both of:
-Using your prominence in one area to dominate another.
-Conditional selling of products of services on condition that you buy or use a mandated product.
I see far too many comments considering that homosexual rape is a fit punishment for somebody.
You guys are barbaric, you presume to be civilized but in many ocassions you show ideas no better than the ones spoused by a Hutu or Serbian war criminal.
It speaks volumes about US society that many consider normal a situation in which inmates in jail can be abused, tortured or raped.
Just wanted to let you know.
They stole other technologies, and abused their monopoly, but I guess you need to be clever for that, be caught and not being properly punished.
She is running Ubuntu.
She was computer illiterate 3 years ago.
My first Linux production desktop was set up in 1995 (Slackware).
I had email, web browser, newsgroups reader, document processing was very simple so it suited my needs. I saved my employer a good amount of money on a time we were cash strapped.
People spending money there would surely be spending money in the RIAA shop.
RIAA and their dopelgangers worldwide don;t want to serve you, the consumer, they want to control you.
If you are all for that, great, enjoy.
Many chose legal options that are not trying to control us (and the legality of this website is still to be debated in the courts, and before anybody asks, I don't use them because there are other shops that actually care about costumers and artists as well).
.... for 35 dirty bucks.
Musicians play and meet their fans, they sing, play, compose and perform.
A "recording artist" is not such. People expecting to make a living from recordings are dishonouring the profession.
Musicians should earn their living by actually, graps, playing live music.
Recording technologies just created an artificial situation, before the 20th century musicians had to actually work to earn a living, not make one recording and then sit back and relax.
If you are already working hard, good, but do not expect to make a living from recordings. It is frnkly immoral.
We are most certainly larger and as reputable, and have Linux and free software all around the place.
The difference?
Our lawyers do their homework I suppose.
... lets nominate as best actors the pupeteers that handled Miss Piggy and Kermit in the Muppets movies.
You want to hnour Mr Serkis? Cool, just do so in the correct category (a new one may need to be created).
You are guessing about hoa many children will your realtives in the future have.
The study and the GP post deal with a mathematical certainity: the number of ancestors anybody has is 2, no more, no less. The interesting conclussion is that your family tree is not a neat tree where each node open 2 new branches, but that for certain many nodes originate different branches that coincide again in the future.
Blues is an US invention.
It is like saying that Italians invented blues because Africanamericans used the conventions laid down by Guido Daretzo...
We know where you are comming from, it is patently obvious you will not see your own community's shortcomings and that you have been indoctrinated quite successfully.
So spare us all the propaganda please.
The source code is not the capital. From dictonary.com the two defintions that have some bearing:
"Material wealth used or available for use in the production of more wealth." which code clearly isn't because it is not material (hint: it is copyrightable).
"Human resources considered in terms of their contributions to an economy" which may apply stretching the defintion to its limits, but one has to wonder how you measure the contribution of ideas (which source code is) tto an economy. Most economists don;t bother, so I don't see why we should.
Software has always been a service, companies are using all kind of artificial constructs to make it appear as a physical product, which it clearly isn't.
Common, point to us people spousing the ideas of Stallman and telling you you can't or shouldn't make money from software.
Copyright, that is what the GPL is all about, did not exist in Communist countries btw.
Copyright was born on capitalist societies. Anybody that really follows Stallman understands this.
More and more your customers are watching your moral stand in many issues, not to pay attention to them may be the competitive disadvantage.
Any major metro area in the world has an IBM site.
Which is why I am strugling real hard to find your point.
Unless you have some hard evidence about the insinuations you are making.
It would be morally wrong, unless there is a provocation.
bin Laden claims many were in place, his attack did not come out of the blue.
He will have a good laugh.
"I go through all this trouble because:
- I don't want to make bussiness with a company that has broken the law.
- I want to use software that is safer to use.
- I value the freedom to use software that benefits everybody, not only one given company"
I am tired of pro Windows zealots and astroturfers that keep patronizing Joe Average like if he was an idiot.
He may or may not agree with the ideas above, but he will understand them and will take a position ("No shit, I just want to play Half Life!" or "Tell me more pal, that sounds interesting").
Too many wasy to mod something would mean careless moderation.
Mandela broke the law.
Enough said about respecting all laws.