Open Source is enhanced by the people that want to play fair.
If some people have to infringe in the copyright of the Linux developpers they can;t expected to be welcomed to do so with impunity, neither can do so any other companies.
If they don't like it they are completely free to use any closed source software solution or any BSD based solution.
The GPL is clear and there is plenty of advice about what happens if you commericalize your products including GPLed software.
This letter outlines a procedure in which you don't need to eat all the cheese that is in my fridge.
I hope you will see the advantages of us arriving to an amicable solution, this is the moral right thing to do otherwise we will both starve. I will ignore that you are selfish bastardsI and I will acknowledge your positive traits. For example you don't want to eat my bread also, that speaks volumes about your integrity.
I want to protect fair use and I respect scrupulously the copyrights of music owners (who screw artists, but that is another matter). I have every single CD for every single Ogg file you could find in my computers, all of them have been ripped not downloaded. I tried free mp3 music but I found it boring and lacking artistic quality.
I do not use propietary software. Yes, that means fewer games, so what? Why6 do you assume that using open source software makes you a copyright abuser?
As I said, talk for yourself, I take offense at people like you that assume that everybody is preaching one thing while doing the other.
I love Linux, but unlike you I am firmly grounded.
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First of all, if you love Linux so much, can you kindly drop the communism tag. It is old, tired and untrue.
In a communism system all the means of production, and by extension, the products derived from them, belong to the state, wether you like it or not.
Linux as any other piece of GPLed software is a program to which people contribute by their own will (first big difference when tryign to make the communism crap stick to Linux) and to which they decide to donate time , effort and even money (not much unlike any charity, which in communists regimes did not exist).
The GPL is firmly based in copyright principles that were non existing in the communist world.
If you want to compare Linux favourably to anything think charity or NGO, but please don't help to spread a meme that only damages Linux reputation based on a patent false association.
Secondly, if you expect the Linux terms of copyright to be respected, you must be absoultely uncompormising about respecting the copyright of others.
Linux is not about infringing the copyright of anybody, no matter how altruistic the objectives. SCO, IBM, MS and any other company are fully entilted to their intellectual property and to make a buck out of it. We, the people [tm] are entitled to buy their products or to do the stuff ourselves if so we wish.
Tirades like the one you make in your post just give Linux and FLOSS a bad name and frankly are not welcomed.
I gained my technical knowledge by fixing things when they borked and building systems from the ground up.
With MS products you can gain a lot of "experience" that way.
With enterprise quality products you actually learn by solving business problems, not by holding heroically your computer infrastructure.
Soory but the first poster was right, the applications that bring the bacon home do not run in MSware in most big corporations (my email and text processing station is fine with MS. I coule do without it but it is the "standard" and I only need to reboot it once a week once Outlook has got no idea what it is doing....).
Or am I the only/.er that does not drink coffee? (I get the ocassional, i.e. every 2 weeks, cup of tea and I don;t drink carbonated drinks, so I am not really missing caffeine at all).
Would it be possible that somebody in the US points out this "statistic" to a trade agency, media watchdog or similar to pursue it under false advertisment, deceiveful information or something like that?
Let the goverment or NGOs deal with them. They can't keep lying and only getting a bad article in/. as their sole punishment.
I have a Palm III that I bought some time ago (I think your N is almost 5) and I had to retire it only because I got a Palm IIIc two years ago. This one is soon to be retired as soon as my Zaurus is configured with all the stuff I want to have.
So far I like the Wirless capability, but if I need to I can charge (or put new batteries) in either of my old machines and be ready to go (they will be snapped soon in Ebay I am sure).
I know the concept is alien to USians, but given the impact companies actions have, a successful company should not have share value as its sole measurement of achievement.
Actually it used to be like that, shareholders invested with the hope that profits would be shared with them in the form of dividends which hopefully would be higer than having the money in the bank. It is only with the sophistication of the financial especulative industry that gambling wich company would do best became an acceptable way to fianance a compny.
The model is flawed, it is like a company and investors going to a casino to arrange how finaincing is arranged.
The same ones that after the company goes into read badly get big payouts after their miserable failure to provide leadership and vision.
Or they get even more if they reduce production costs. Did they do that by streamlining their processes and internal bureaucratic procedures? No, they opened a spreadsheet with all the company's employees, sorted it out by salary and years of experience and, once their buddies are excluded, marked the names of workers that came on top.
I wold agree that this is a healthy exercise if all of the sudden there was less work, but I have seen far too many times that the work that was done by 4 is now done by 2, and actually the intrincacies of integrating different IT infrastructures means an additional workload that would be better served by, yes, you guessed it, 4 people.
And then everybody asks why IT projects are always over budget and late. Well, here is a good reason why.
I forgot that Miguel's handle in/. is a different one.
You got me pal. brownie points to you.
Lets put it this way.
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Anybody with SCO in their resume around this time will not have good cookie points if they come my way. I mean, they should be advicing the suits about this, right?
One can only assume that the techies in SCO are fully behind this rubbish.
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Here is the first line of offending code:
x++;
And you have not seen it all, there are hundreds of lines like that, the bastard crackers just cahnged the name of the variable in all the code!
And there is even more:
x--;
You did not see that one coming you fucking nerds. Take that you pirates!
Insightful? Moderators: give us a break!
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The allegedly code is all around the place in CDs and installations all around the world.
EVen if Linux coders would rewrite any allegedely illegally copied code the evidence would remain in all kind of media.
The parent comment lacks the most basic common sense.
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Open Source is enhanced by the people that want to play fair.
If some people have to infringe in the copyright of the Linux developpers they can;t expected to be welcomed to do so with impunity, neither can do so any other companies.
If they don't like it they are completely free to use any closed source software solution or any BSD based solution.
The GPL is clear and there is plenty of advice about what happens if you commericalize your products including GPLed software.
In synthesis read the GPL you lazy bummer.
I believe Taco and Co. are infatuated in a perverse way with the Gollum thing.
Get over it, it was lame acting, good pupeteering.
Daer rats,
This letter outlines a procedure in which you don't need to eat all the cheese that is in my fridge.
I hope you will see the advantages of us arriving to an amicable solution, this is the moral right thing to do otherwise we will both starve. I will ignore that you are selfish bastardsI and I will acknowledge your positive traits. For example you don't want to eat my bread also, that speaks volumes about your integrity.
Whay are you not moving out of my fridge?
What do you mean with my cat is a panzy?
I want to protect fair use and I respect scrupulously the copyrights of music owners (who screw artists, but that is another matter). I have every single CD for every single Ogg file you could find in my computers, all of them have been ripped not downloaded. I tried free mp3 music but I found it boring and lacking artistic quality.
I do not use propietary software. Yes, that means fewer games, so what? Why6 do you assume that using open source software makes you a copyright abuser?
As I said, talk for yourself, I take offense at people like you that assume that everybody is preaching one thing while doing the other.
Everytime I get mod points I will go looking for comments like this and modding them down.
Get on with what you have to say but stop the "poor me" game.
You lazy bummer!
First of all, if you love Linux so much, can you kindly drop the communism tag. It is old, tired and untrue.
In a communism system all the means of production, and by extension, the products derived from them, belong to the state, wether you like it or not.
Linux as any other piece of GPLed software is a program to which people contribute by their own will (first big difference when tryign to make the communism crap stick to Linux) and to which they decide to donate time , effort and even money (not much unlike any charity, which in communists regimes did not exist).
The GPL is firmly based in copyright principles that were non existing in the communist world.
If you want to compare Linux favourably to anything think charity or NGO, but please don't help to spread a meme that only damages Linux reputation based on a patent false association.
Secondly, if you expect the Linux terms of copyright to be respected, you must be absoultely uncompormising about respecting the copyright of others.
Linux is not about infringing the copyright of anybody, no matter how altruistic the objectives. SCO, IBM, MS and any other company are fully entilted to their intellectual property and to make a buck out of it. We, the people [tm] are entitled to buy their products or to do the stuff ourselves if so we wish.
Tirades like the one you make in your post just give Linux and FLOSS a bad name and frankly are not welcomed.
I gained my technical knowledge by fixing things when they borked and building systems from the ground up.
With MS products you can gain a lot of "experience" that way.
With enterprise quality products you actually learn by solving business problems, not by holding heroically your computer infrastructure.
Soory but the first poster was right, the applications that bring the bacon home do not run in MSware in most big corporations (my email and text processing station is fine with MS. I coule do without it but it is the "standard" and I only need to reboot it once a week once Outlook has got no idea what it is doing....).
Get off your high horse, honestly.
I am sure you milk your own cows and get your own eggs from your own hens.
Or am I the only /.er that does not drink coffee? (I get the ocassional, i.e. every 2 weeks, cup of tea and I don;t drink carbonated drinks, so I am not really missing caffeine at all).
Lets re-invent the wheel!
Every time!
Nobody has any valuable experience!
Look, I invented this: O
It is called wheeeeeeel!
Would it be possible that somebody in the US points out this "statistic" to a trade agency, media watchdog or similar to pursue it under false advertisment, deceiveful information or something like that?
/. as their sole punishment.
Let the goverment or NGOs deal with them. They can't keep lying and only getting a bad article in
Check kuro5hin front page, there is an article about infinite that explains 1/infinite quite well.
.... but is statistically unrepresentative.
I have a Palm III that I bought some time ago (I think your N is almost 5) and I had to retire it only because I got a Palm IIIc two years ago. This one is soon to be retired as soon as my Zaurus is configured with all the stuff I want to have.
So far I like the Wirless capability, but if I need to I can charge (or put new batteries) in either of my old machines and be ready to go (they will be snapped soon in Ebay I am sure).
The original poster was talking about the official ROM, not OZ.
It is very commendable what the OZ guys are doing, but from the applications and usability point of view I also prefer the offical ROM.
The social responsibility of a company.
I know the concept is alien to USians, but given the impact companies actions have, a successful company should not have share value as its sole measurement of achievement.
Actually it used to be like that, shareholders invested with the hope that profits would be shared with them in the form of dividends which hopefully would be higer than having the money in the bank. It is only with the sophistication of the financial especulative industry that gambling wich company would do best became an acceptable way to fianance a compny.
The model is flawed, it is like a company and investors going to a casino to arrange how finaincing is arranged.
The same ones that after the company goes into read badly get big payouts after their miserable failure to provide leadership and vision.
Or they get even more if they reduce production costs. Did they do that by streamlining their processes and internal bureaucratic procedures? No, they opened a spreadsheet with all the company's employees, sorted it out by salary and years of experience and, once their buddies are excluded, marked the names of workers that came on top.
I wold agree that this is a healthy exercise if all of the sudden there was less work, but I have seen far too many times that the work that was done by 4 is now done by 2, and actually the intrincacies of integrating different IT infrastructures means an additional workload that would be better served by, yes, you guessed it, 4 people.
And then everybody asks why IT projects are always over budget and late. Well, here is a good reason why.
TIme zones and real availability during crisis makes that a non issue for certain fields.
I forgot that Miguel's handle in /. is a different one.
You got me pal. brownie points to you.
Anybody with SCO in their resume around this time will not have good cookie points if they come my way. I mean, they should be advicing the suits about this, right?
One can only assume that the techies in SCO are fully behind this rubbish.
Here is the first line of offending code:
x++;
And you have not seen it all, there are hundreds of lines like that, the bastard crackers just cahnged the name of the variable in all the code!
And there is even more:
x--;
You did not see that one coming you fucking nerds. Take that you pirates!
The allegedly code is all around the place in CDs and installations all around the world.
EVen if Linux coders would rewrite any allegedely illegally copied code the evidence would remain in all kind of media.
The parent comment lacks the most basic common sense.
... and moderate down anybody that preempts how his comment is going to be moderated?
I love /.
... whose principles differ widely from the ones of the US.
Don't be idiotic, other countries have different points of view and don't have childish foreign policies to make the US or any other country angry.