You've actually just described how hypnotic "instant inductions" or "rapid inductions" work. By forcing the "mental segfault", that puts the subject into a suggestible state. Take advantage of it before their mind latches on to the change and adjusts, and you can put someone under in seconds.... Or, if you don't believe in that "mumbo-jumbo", it's a really cool way to fuck with people.:-)
I am lucky to have never been a janitor. The closest I have come to blue collar is "part-time bar maintenance man". However, I have always had the greatest respect for people who do that work. It is one of the hardest, most thankless jobs I know of.
The janitorial services at my current office are provided by a woman and her family. They usually come by after hours (kids still in their school uniforms), and I'm one of the few people here at the time. But I always make it a point to thank them for emptying my trash.
Hi, I break into banks and credit unions for a (legal) living.
ATM security is a joke. Ever since Diebold moved to Windows for their ATM software, it is trivial to hack them. When I go into a bank/credit union to perform a penetration test, I regularly find ATM's on the main network segment, with access to all ports, and a copy of WinXP installed on them that is still vulnerable to MS03-026.
ATM's are bought and sold. The hard drive is not wiped between clients. So when I hack into the ATM using a 3-year-old vulnerability, I find the data for 10 financial institutions.
That's not counting the fact that many places keep the key in the back of the ATM, allowing unrestricted access to the computer guts of the machine to any employee or even member of the public who passes by.
The idea that some people have that "Diebold makes ATM's secure, so they can make voting machines secure" is laughable to anyone who has ever had experience with the security of ATM's.
I remember seeing that they used compressed air years ago, on a Discovery Channel or Travel Channel special about fireworks. They also use tiny radio receivers in some of their bigger stuff so that it can be electronically shot out with the compressed air, then detonated at an exact time to coincide with a musical cue.
The press release even says they've done it for years.
This is the true problem confounding all high school computer nerds. I wrestled with it, and hopefully you can learn from my mistakes.
I made the realization in my freshman year of college that there was NOTHING they could teach me relative to computers that I either didn't already know, or that would help me with my intended field of work: being a sysadmin. This caused me to fail out of college.
The problem is, later on I realized that I NEED that college degree in something, anything. You need it for a couple of reasons. First, you might not want to be a sysadmin for the rest of your life. They have no certifications that I know of for being a biotech engineer. Having a degree in ANYTHING means you can buckle down and do the work required of a college degree. Second, you might want to move up the corporate ladder. Sure, sysadmin is powerful, but you need to report to someone, your manager. Dilbert principle not withstanding, upper management is more apt to promote people with degrees over the person with just certifications. You have to think about what THEY value. Third, the experience of college is something I believe everyone should go through. Some of the friends I made in my first attempt at college are still my friends.
In the end, it's your decision. But try to realize that it will impact the rest of your life. My older sister (40ish) has a husband, three children, and a million-dollar-per-year income from herself alone, and she is going back to college. She has her SEC license to sell securities, stocks, bonds, and insurance in three states, but because she doesn't have a degree, she can't be hired by the stock firm she wants to work for.
We opened a brand new CompUSA store. During the 30-day training session before the store opened, we were told, and I quote, "the only people who need computer experience are the guys in the tech shop".
I was 18 at the time, but I had 35-year-old salesmen asking me questions about systems for users, I virtually ran the "upgrades" counter, and I was basically harrassed and kept from doing any of my tech shop work. I was later fired for working on two computers a week. If they had taken some time in those 30 days to teach the other employees about computers, I might have stayed there long enough to quit.
There's different about being FORCED to do CS that makes it lose its lustre. I used to program. Hell, I took one look at a Doogie Howser rerun, saw his little journal computer, and created my own program to do just that.
That was a long time ago. Since then, I went through a few high school CS classes. THOSE were enough to burn me out on the whole programming thing. Goofing off in a classroom full of old 8088's, 8086's, and one great 286 was how I spent my class time, instead of listening to the teacher. We'd create programs to drive the electron guns of the monitor directly, creating psychadelic patterns. Then I'd get on a computer during the class period the program was due, create it, debug it (rarely), and print it. Programming lost its challenging appeal to me, and became mundane and tedious.
To this day, I hate programming. I hate programmers. I tried explaining my job to someone in a bar, he asked if I was like a programmer, and I almost started a fight. To me, it has become an insult. Anyone can create a "Hello World" program, and after that it's all the same.
Personally, I'm trying to get into Computer Enginnering. At my school it's basically Electrical Engineering with a computer emphasis. More digital logic classes. Microprocessor classes. Classes on the development and implementation of operating systems. Hopefully dealing with the hardware at such a miniscule level, even having to worry about key debouncing, will keep me from becoming bored with it. Maybe it won't.
Just remember that if you think CS is boring now, think about how it will be if you work for some software house. Sure, you'll be paid, and the challenges will be bigger. But in the end, you'll just be some guy sitting in a darkened room hunched over a keyboard staring at a monitor for 8+ hours a day.
"Look for example at IBM, they nearly died from getting not enough money from their invention of the IBM PC."
You're joking, right? Try boning up on your history, pal. IBM made (I don't know if they're still involved in all of these areas anymore) a number of business products, including typewriters (the Selectric being a computer-like typewriter that lots of people hacked), mainframes, punch card equipment, and even fire alarm systems. Their bread and butter were the mainframe computers, where the price was high, the margins were high, and the service costs (paid to IBM, of course) were high.
Some guy over at IBM saw the Apple II, saw the killer app for it (some spreadsheet app, maybe Visicalc? I don't recall right now), thought that maybe there was something there and had a few guys put together a prototype with off-the-shelf components, and marketed it to smaller businesses who couldn't afford any of the mainframes that IBM's bread-and-butter section created. IBM didn't bet the farm on the PC, you dolt. Apple bet the farm on the Mac, though. Maybe you've gotten your companies mixed up. I don't see how you COULD get the two confused, but I guess in some lesser minds it would be possible.
Most autodialers cut off after 4 rings, which is the standard answering time of an answering machine/voicemail, etc. Putting the TeleZapper tone, or any other tone for that matter, at the beginning of your voicemail message wouldn't work unless you could change your voicemail to answer after less than 4 rings. I know I can't do that.
I work for my state government in one of the largest state agencies they have. Aside from spending all day Friday cleaning out the Nimda worm (will users never learn?), we normally have a wonderful time at the Helldesk.
A Godzilla toy is dangling from the dropped ceiling in a mouse cord noose, old 386 and 387 chips (nicknamed "giblets") are embedded in the carpeting which covers our walls, a sound-proof room (used to be a recording studio), and we have free reign from the bosses to do "Network Performance Testing" during lunch using Q3 and Unreal Tourney.
I'll admit, I got lucky in where I work. I know not all gov't IT jobs are like this, but it shows that it IS possible to work for anyone, even the gov't, and have fun doing it!
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You've actually just described how hypnotic "instant inductions" or "rapid inductions" work. By forcing the "mental segfault", that puts the subject into a suggestible state. Take advantage of it before their mind latches on to the change and adjusts, and you can put someone under in seconds. ... Or, if you don't believe in that "mumbo-jumbo", it's a really cool way to fuck with people. :-)
I am lucky to have never been a janitor. The closest I have come to blue collar is "part-time bar maintenance man". However, I have always had the greatest respect for people who do that work. It is one of the hardest, most thankless jobs I know of.
The janitorial services at my current office are provided by a woman and her family. They usually come by after hours (kids still in their school uniforms), and I'm one of the few people here at the time. But I always make it a point to thank them for emptying my trash.
They said they made a mistake with the wording, and re-released the license with better wording.l
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4872069549.htm
Hi, I break into banks and credit unions for a (legal) living.
ATM security is a joke. Ever since Diebold moved to Windows for their ATM software, it is trivial to hack them. When I go into a bank/credit union to perform a penetration test, I regularly find ATM's on the main network segment, with access to all ports, and a copy of WinXP installed on them that is still vulnerable to MS03-026.
ATM's are bought and sold. The hard drive is not wiped between clients. So when I hack into the ATM using a 3-year-old vulnerability, I find the data for 10 financial institutions.
That's not counting the fact that many places keep the key in the back of the ATM, allowing unrestricted access to the computer guts of the machine to any employee or even member of the public who passes by.
The idea that some people have that "Diebold makes ATM's secure, so they can make voting machines secure" is laughable to anyone who has ever had experience with the security of ATM's.
I remember seeing that they used compressed air years ago, on a Discovery Channel or Travel Channel special about fireworks. They also use tiny radio receivers in some of their bigger stuff so that it can be electronically shot out with the compressed air, then detonated at an exact time to coincide with a musical cue.
The press release even says they've done it for years.
This is the true problem confounding all high school computer nerds. I wrestled with it, and hopefully you can learn from my mistakes.
I made the realization in my freshman year of college that there was NOTHING they could teach me relative to computers that I either didn't already know, or that would help me with my intended field of work: being a sysadmin. This caused me to fail out of college.
The problem is, later on I realized that I NEED that college degree in something, anything. You need it for a couple of reasons.
First, you might not want to be a sysadmin for the rest of your life. They have no certifications that I know of for being a biotech engineer. Having a degree in ANYTHING means you can buckle down and do the work required of a college degree.
Second, you might want to move up the corporate ladder. Sure, sysadmin is powerful, but you need to report to someone, your manager. Dilbert principle not withstanding, upper management is more apt to promote people with degrees over the person with just certifications. You have to think about what THEY value.
Third, the experience of college is something I believe everyone should go through. Some of the friends I made in my first attempt at college are still my friends.
In the end, it's your decision. But try to realize that it will impact the rest of your life. My older sister (40ish) has a husband, three children, and a million-dollar-per-year income from herself alone, and she is going back to college. She has her SEC license to sell securities, stocks, bonds, and insurance in three states, but because she doesn't have a degree, she can't be hired by the stock firm she wants to work for.
We opened a brand new CompUSA store. During the 30-day training session before the store opened, we were told, and I quote, "the only people who need computer experience are the guys in the tech shop".
I was 18 at the time, but I had 35-year-old salesmen asking me questions about systems for users, I virtually ran the "upgrades" counter, and I was basically harrassed and kept from doing any of my tech shop work. I was later fired for working on two computers a week. If they had taken some time in those 30 days to teach the other employees about computers, I might have stayed there long enough to quit.
There's different about being FORCED to do CS that makes it lose its lustre. I used to program. Hell, I took one look at a Doogie Howser rerun, saw his little journal computer, and created my own program to do just that.
That was a long time ago. Since then, I went through a few high school CS classes. THOSE were enough to burn me out on the whole programming thing. Goofing off in a classroom full of old 8088's, 8086's, and one great 286 was how I spent my class time, instead of listening to the teacher. We'd create programs to drive the electron guns of the monitor directly, creating psychadelic patterns. Then I'd get on a computer during the class period the program was due, create it, debug it (rarely), and print it. Programming lost its challenging appeal to me, and became mundane and tedious.
To this day, I hate programming. I hate programmers. I tried explaining my job to someone in a bar, he asked if I was like a programmer, and I almost started a fight. To me, it has become an insult. Anyone can create a "Hello World" program, and after that it's all the same.
Personally, I'm trying to get into Computer Enginnering. At my school it's basically Electrical Engineering with a computer emphasis. More digital logic classes. Microprocessor classes. Classes on the development and implementation of operating systems. Hopefully dealing with the hardware at such a miniscule level, even having to worry about key debouncing, will keep me from becoming bored with it. Maybe it won't.
Just remember that if you think CS is boring now, think about how it will be if you work for some software house. Sure, you'll be paid, and the challenges will be bigger. But in the end, you'll just be some guy sitting in a darkened room hunched over a keyboard staring at a monitor for 8+ hours a day.
"Look for example at IBM, they nearly died from getting not enough money from their invention of the IBM PC."
You're joking, right? Try boning up on your history, pal. IBM made (I don't know if they're still involved in all of these areas anymore) a number of business products, including typewriters (the Selectric being a computer-like typewriter that lots of people hacked), mainframes, punch card equipment, and even fire alarm systems. Their bread and butter were the mainframe computers, where the price was high, the margins were high, and the service costs (paid to IBM, of course) were high.
Some guy over at IBM saw the Apple II, saw the killer app for it (some spreadsheet app, maybe Visicalc? I don't recall right now), thought that maybe there was something there and had a few guys put together a prototype with off-the-shelf components, and marketed it to smaller businesses who couldn't afford any of the mainframes that IBM's bread-and-butter section created. IBM didn't bet the farm on the PC, you dolt. Apple bet the farm on the Mac, though. Maybe you've gotten your companies mixed up. I don't see how you COULD get the two confused, but I guess in some lesser minds it would be possible.
Yeah, it's a flame. Go ahead, flame back.
Most autodialers cut off after 4 rings, which is the standard answering time of an answering machine/voicemail, etc. Putting the TeleZapper tone, or any other tone for that matter, at the beginning of your voicemail message wouldn't work unless you could change your voicemail to answer after less than 4 rings. I know I can't do that.
I work for my state government in one of the largest state agencies they have. Aside from spending all day Friday cleaning out the Nimda worm (will users never learn?), we normally have a wonderful time at the Helldesk.
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A Godzilla toy is dangling from the dropped ceiling in a mouse cord noose, old 386 and 387 chips (nicknamed "giblets") are embedded in the carpeting which covers our walls, a sound-proof room (used to be a recording studio), and we have free reign from the bosses to do "Network Performance Testing" during lunch using Q3 and Unreal Tourney.
I'll admit, I got lucky in where I work. I know not all gov't IT jobs are like this, but it shows that it IS possible to work for anyone, even the gov't, and have fun doing it!
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