Connectiva has a very big share of the market in Latin America........ I believe they are on par with Mandrake in total world numbers. Speaking of them, I use Synaptic in every one of the 8 distros I use. including Debian.
All I have to say is that you are missing someone on your team.... Daniel Robbins. I am sure you all know who that is. As for Portland, I know t well after the turbulent years at Beserkeley. All I have to say is keep up the good work, and make Robbins an offer for chrissssss Sake.
I would substitute the words "indoctrinated victim" for "dumb" in your post. Other than that, you are absolutely right. I am posting this from Darwin. However, the fact is that Windows DOES appeal to the mindless who do not have enough personal courage to resist the FUD or to decide not to contribute to a lying, underhanded, criminal monopoly.
Ah yes!!! *sigh* the injustice of it all. Soon we won't be able to call the windows in our homes windows any more because of copyright protection. Pages will have to be ripped out of dictionaries. Webster will be exhumed, and Mom won't be able to write on her conserve jars because markers will be illegal... So I guess I'll just take a break, go back to vinyl 33's and listen to scratchy music while looking out on the graffitiless city through those see-through thingies on my wall.
Are Celine D. and her cloned offspring copyright protected too???
clone n. 1. An exact duplicate: "Our product is a clone of their
product." Implies a legal reimplementation from documentation or by
reverse-engineering. Also connotes lower price. 2. A shoddy, spurious
copy: "Their product is a clone of our product." 3. A blatant ripoff,
most likely violating copyright, patent, or trade secret protections:
"Your product is a clone of my product." This use implies legal action
is pending. 4. [obs] `PC clone:' a PC-BUS/ISA or EISA-compatible
80x86-based microcomputer (this use is sometimes spelled `klone' or
`PClone'). These invariably have much more bang for the buck than the
IBM archetypes they resemble. This term fell out of use in the 1990s;
the class of machines it describes are now simply `PCs' or `Intel
machines'. 5. [obs.] In the construction `Unix clone': An OS designed to
deliver a Unix-lookalike environment without Unix license fees, or with
additional `mission-critical' features such as support for real-time
programming. Linux and the free BSDs killed off this product category
and the term with it. 6. v. To make an exact copy of something. "Let me
clone that" might mean "I want to borrow that paper so I can make a
photocopy" or "Let me get a copy of that file before you mung it".
The only word I objected to in your first intervention is "real".. when describing XP. If topheavy code crashes, "call-homes", embedded insecurity, telly-tubbyesque graphics, a fat price tag, and being treated like a complete idiot by an OS with an embedded Gates EGO, is your idea of a "real" OS, then I guess you are right
Is Red Hat's way of solving dependency problems for all the broken apps that Red Hat includes in its distro to simply abandon the desktop user in ITS politic?
"Real" morons love XP, the "Real Morons' OS".. . Now if you think this is flame bait, you are mistaken. You are living proof of my statement, ergo, it is merely a fact.
Good work Brian.. Now I suppose that M$ would have us all be credulous enough to believe that this isn't a well-paid witness, thoroughly bribed by Microslop.
Well, I find it eminently useable, but then again, I am using Debian. KDE 3.0 is good, but most of the mathematical and scientific apps I use are not QT-based. I find Sylpheed-claws and Balsa superior to Kmail. Of course most of the apps I use may be called up from the KDE desktop, but why bother? The fact is that in major commercial distros, including Red Hat much of the stuff in Gnome is botched together, apps are just thrown in there with little attention on useability. Try Debian and you'll see the difference. GMC is a good file manager, one of the best. If you compare libraries and apps in KDE to the similar stuff in Gnome, you will find that the applications in KDE are bloated on an individual basis. KDE is slower. I too was obliged to use KDE in Red Hat 7.2 because of many broken applications in Gnome as presented by Red Hat. RH 7.3 may be an improvement though. All I know is that I can launch OpenOffice more quickly from Xfce than I can launch Kword from KDE 3.0.
I find that most of the "problems" in Gnome are directly related to the Nautilus File browser/manager, and that is why I do not use it to draw the desktop or as the principle file manager. GMC fills all functions admirably. Now for KDE: bloted libraries, many useless apps... and the list goes on. The Konqueror FM is good though, and so is Kmail.... That's about it. I have the best of both worlds so to speak. I find myself using Xfce with the Gnome panel added. I call up both KDE and Gnome apps simultaneously without a glitch. But for everyday use, I prefer Gnome. I just wish thay would totally drop Nautilus, and move totally away from the attempt at eye-candy into something serious.
No, he hasn't wavered. He also justifies his views with the whys and wherefores. That is why I value his views... he is capable of justifying them with an impeccable logic.
It seems to me that CodeWeaver's stuff is proprietary, isn't it? If so Lindows may not be allowed to reveal the Codeweaver part of what was implimented before the Codeweaver/Lindows divorce., which may be a big piece of their coded cake.
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Well, considering that Windows itself is a virus, I am not surprised........ This is just one more thumbtack in the MS user's cell padding......
Connectiva has a very big share of the market in Latin America........ I believe they are on par with Mandrake in total world numbers. Speaking of them, I use Synaptic in every one of the 8 distros I use. including Debian.
I'll second, third and fourth that brother!!!!!
...of prophylactics
All I have to say is that you are missing someone on your team.... Daniel Robbins. I am sure you all know who that is. As for Portland, I know t well after the turbulent years at Beserkeley.
All I have to say is keep up the good work, and make Robbins an offer for chrissssss Sake.
I would substitute the words "indoctrinated victim" for "dumb" in your post. Other than that, you are absolutely right. I am posting this from Darwin. However, the fact is that Windows DOES appeal to the mindless who do not have enough personal courage to resist the FUD or to decide not to contribute to a lying, underhanded, criminal monopoly.
Ah yes!!! *sigh* the injustice of it all. Soon we won't be able to call the windows in our homes windows any more because of copyright protection. Pages will have to be ripped out of dictionaries. Webster will be exhumed, and Mom won't be able to write on her conserve jars because markers will be illegal... So I guess I'll just take a break, go back to vinyl 33's and listen to scratchy music while looking out on the graffitiless city through those see-through thingies on my wall.
Are Celine D. and her cloned offspring copyright protected too???
clone n. 1. An exact duplicate: "Our product is a clone of their
product." Implies a legal reimplementation from documentation or by
reverse-engineering. Also connotes lower price. 2. A shoddy, spurious
copy: "Their product is a clone of our product." 3. A blatant ripoff,
most likely violating copyright, patent, or trade secret protections:
"Your product is a clone of my product." This use implies legal action
is pending. 4. [obs] `PC clone:' a PC-BUS/ISA or EISA-compatible
80x86-based microcomputer (this use is sometimes spelled `klone' or
`PClone'). These invariably have much more bang for the buck than the
IBM archetypes they resemble. This term fell out of use in the 1990s;
the class of machines it describes are now simply `PCs' or `Intel
machines'. 5. [obs.] In the construction `Unix clone': An OS designed to
deliver a Unix-lookalike environment without Unix license fees, or with
additional `mission-critical' features such as support for real-time
programming. Linux and the free BSDs killed off this product category
and the term with it. 6. v. To make an exact copy of something. "Let me
clone that" might mean "I want to borrow that paper so I can make a
photocopy" or "Let me get a copy of that file before you mung it".
And for some, unfortunately, (present company excepted) it's like blowing wind!! :)
....great idea!!!!!!!! I would have never thought of that. BTW, what's Windows?
The only word I objected to in your first intervention is "real".. when describing XP. If topheavy code crashes, "call-homes", embedded insecurity, telly-tubbyesque graphics, a fat price tag, and being treated like a complete idiot by an OS with an embedded Gates EGO, is your idea of a "real" OS, then I guess you are right
Is Red Hat's way of solving dependency problems for all the broken apps that Red Hat includes in its distro to simply abandon the desktop user in ITS politic?
"Real" morons love XP, the "Real Morons' OS".. . Now if you think this is flame bait, you are mistaken. You are living proof of my statement, ergo, it is merely a fact.
Good work Brian.. Now I suppose that M$ would have us all be credulous enough to believe that this isn't a well-paid witness, thoroughly bribed by Microslop.
ThanX for bringing pure, deceptively simple logic into the fog of FUDdiness.
You forgot the cat!!!!!! It purrs giving you warm cuddly feelings all over!!!!!!
You know of course that you have opened a can of flames. As an author I can attest that being talked about isn't always better than being ignored. LOL
Well, I find it eminently useable, but then again, I am using Debian. KDE 3.0 is good, but most of the mathematical and scientific apps I use are not QT-based. I find Sylpheed-claws and Balsa superior to Kmail. Of course most of the apps I use may be called up from the KDE desktop, but why bother? The fact is that in major commercial distros, including Red Hat much of the stuff in Gnome is botched together, apps are just thrown in there with little attention on useability. Try Debian and you'll see the difference. GMC is a good file manager, one of the best. If you compare libraries and apps in KDE to the similar stuff in Gnome, you will find that the applications in KDE are bloated on an individual basis. KDE is slower. I too was obliged to use KDE in Red Hat 7.2 because of many broken applications in Gnome as presented by Red Hat. RH 7.3 may be an improvement though. All I know is that I can launch OpenOffice more quickly from Xfce than I can launch Kword from KDE 3.0.
If you are referring to your message, yes.
I find that most of the "problems" in Gnome are directly related to the Nautilus File browser/manager, and that is why I do not use it to draw the desktop or as the principle file manager. GMC fills all functions admirably. Now for KDE: bloted libraries, many useless apps... and the list goes on. The Konqueror FM is good though, and so is Kmail.... That's about it. I have the best of both worlds so to speak. I find myself using Xfce with the Gnome panel added. I call up both KDE and Gnome apps simultaneously without a glitch. But for everyday use, I prefer Gnome. I just wish thay would totally drop Nautilus, and move totally away from the attempt at eye-candy into something serious.
Once again, it has been demonstrated that sleeping with the enemy for procreative purposes is OK. However, this doesn't seem to be a one-night stand.
No, he hasn't wavered. He also justifies his views with the whys and wherefores. That is why I value his views... he is capable of justifying them with an impeccable logic.
Logic, BTW, is the pretty flower that smells bad.
Thank you for making that clear to me. Very concise. ThAnX
I would really have Stallman's view and comments on all this. Anyone heard anything yet?
It seems to me that CodeWeaver's stuff is proprietary, isn't it? If so Lindows may not be allowed to reveal the Codeweaver part of what was implimented before the Codeweaver/Lindows divorce., which may be a big piece of their coded cake.