I haven't collected anything but the satisfaction of seeing a few servers get taken down via weaknesses in MS soft..., bu anonymous and benevolent crackers. The only to stop spammers [although I do believe that some of that stupidity is so ridiculous, it's actually fun, as someone just posted] is to develop really good methodologically sound and efficient cracks to take them out.
It's those final words that I find interesting: "I have completed my mission," it said upon arriving. "Please examine my contents."
Phew!!!! I wonder what would happen if a human said that to the ROBO???:)
micro$lop is a cult-like, and quasi-esoteric organisation which is located simultaneously in two territories, muck like Schroedinger's cat. One such territory is somewhere in a state of Redmyneck, in the perpetual state of Washandpatchaton. The other virtual territory is located in the collective emptiness found between the ears of devoted members of the Cult in question. The two leaders of the Org are named Bomber and Grates, two individuals so spiritually advanced that they are beyond any Law structure known to mankind. The organization continues to recrute members from the 80% of the world's population who have a below normal intelligence, in other words, those who unwittingly pay for everything without questioning. These folks are necessary for the survival of the rest of us who are here for the free ride, our primary moral oblgation.
What do you mean **friends**..?? I have no friends !!! LOL Unless, of course, you want to apply. I just looooove when you talk bad to me!!!! Gimme more!!!!! *pant*.... *sigh* BTW, How does the necklace fit?
It was just a manner of speaking. I am very familiar with all the APT utilities. I meant to say that for a new user of Debian, especially one who flys by the seat of his pants without reading instructions, apt cannot be used effectively. I have seen many new users who cannot selectively update because they don't know how to use apt. As far as the 500 MB download goes, that too was a "manner of speaking"... Gee, you take everything literaly dontcha... It is dead simple to use for those who know how. Like me... like you... Not for the newbie. You are dead wrong if you believe that there's nothing to learn about apt/dpkg/dselect before using them. In fact your post makes me wonder if you ever even saw a Debian installation outside of a print magazine, and if you ever understood a joke that didn't have its origin somewhere in the musky confines of what you consider to be your mind.
LOL.... I like your spirit!!! Now the question is, what to do with Anonymous Coward's PC after he trashes it by installing XP on it. I was thinking in the line of a good hammer or possibly a cup of graphite dust sucked in by the input fan.
They are both excellent. It's like comparing apples and hamburgers. I have both on the drive (no win$low os in sight)... Mandrake can be made to install.debs and Debian can handle rpms, so I have the best ot both worlds. The APT labyrinth in debian is not easy to learn. You hit the wrong button and you're in for a 500MB download. I have used Debian since the very beginning of debian. Mandrake, however, is the only rpm based distro I like, the community is strong, and they are truly open. The PreZ of Mandrake, LeMarois, is a fine person, and devoted to Open Source. The ideal is to have both Debian and Mandrake. That way you can take your time learning Debian.
PINE has simply been scuttled by Debian because of the incessant security issues. In fact the Debian community is thing of EXIM *ooo boy* right now and the debate on several lists goes on. If you want PINE, all you have to do is to go shopping at the tarPits and install the generic from a tar file. I personally have the tarriest Debian install I've ever seen. BTW if you do a Mozilla update via apt/dselect, your Galeon will be automatically unstalled in the process too, because Galeon too has been relagated to the Debian graveyard until futher resurrection notices.
On the glitch count, Red Hat 7.2 comes embeded with every glitch known to mankind. They just slop together app and let the user solve their problems. The term "Dependency Hell" was invented by Red Hat users. Red Hat is a wannabe Micro$$$$$$oft of the Linux world. SuSE is not far behind with their "we don't like the "free software approach" attitude. Rude Hat is for suits...., and geeks of course.... but suits seem to be more attracted to it.Of course, RedHat does produce "mission Critical" stuff, but not for the desktop. Mandrake, by comparison, has the desktop user in mind, listens to suggestions, and has never lost the debian-like spirit of what open source is all about. As far as freebies go, talk all you want, but I have a smokin' Woody up and running that has more power and compiling ability than the most expensive RedHat Pro edition, and I didn't pay a cent, in money that is. A little time, a little development from time to time is my currency. Mandrake isn't far behind. It has got to be the best RPM distro around.
The University effort will fail because to trap hearts and minds M$ will have to open kindergarten classes to brainwash effictively. Think of all the $$$ they'd save by bribing with real candy instead of candy GUIs and false promisses of security.
The biggest and most prevalent lie I come across is "winmodems are cheaper"... The fact is they are cheaper because M$ insists on encouraging their proliferation to discourage in "a little way" the use of Linux to connect via modem. if makers all used simple UART hard modems internally, they would me even less expensive than so-called soft modems. Another good one is, when trying to order a PC without a MicroSlop OS pre-installed: "It's illegal to sell you one like that." And last but not least this is my favorite lie: "Windows is the most stable and secure OS, so why would you want a blank HD?"
Is Ballmer a Scientologist?... and Gates? LOL If not they should be. This reminds me of the longstanding and ongoingOpenSource/FreeSoft/Cancer vs. Closed code/M$, FatBankers-in-suits vs.everyone else, freedom of thought and expression vs. just about every religion ever created by delusory schizo prophets and enlightened ones, law vs. justice, freedom vs. "I am the law" debate.
Judging from the number of mindless Quislings Micro$lop has defending their interests on WWW message boards, including this one, I think you have a point about L. Ron Gates. Maybe this new court battle will prevent the M-$ version of the "final solution" concerning the "cancer" of OpenSource from taking place. In case it doesn't, get ready to hit the road with your code.
Funny, I have never lived in a MicroSLOP world bub!. I am quite tired of you defenders of slimy business practices, MS junkware, and "Open Source Cancer" eradicators. You are then quite welcome to your world where justice and morality do not apply. You remind me of a species of quisling, or a victim of the "loving the persecutor" syndrome, combined with kissassomaniac tendencies. I can understand you using MS products for lack of skill or courage, but I can't understand you defending them when any person with the least bit of moral integrity or sense of justice KNOWS that they are liars and cheats.
COWARD.. Roblimo of Slashdot also reviewed it in its early stages and gave it a good review coward. Well coward, you carry your name well indeed! Too bad coward that you can't take off the "Anonymous" part of your coward name and thereby reflect your cowardly personality a bit better coward. So coward, by for now, and I enjoyed your cowardly post too coward. See ya coward. LOL You are not nasty at all Coward... I am NASTY, you are too cowardly to be nasty.
I find it an easier structure than RedHat's to understand. KDE uses the "opt" for apps, and the rest of the structure seems to be as simple as the first Linux structures, before commercial distros started doing weird things with their files. The structure is straightforward and a little browsing around will be self-explanatory...
By far the best book I've seen is "Red Hat 7.2 Unleashed" by Bill Ball et al. from SAMS publishing. It just came out and you get RedHat CDs with it. In spite of the title, the boob applies to Linux in general too, except for the Debian apt-get etc. It is a book for beginners and experts alike. Though much of it may seem quite technical at first, it is written clearly enough to facilitate the learning process.
I find these comments, even the negative ones interesting. I am the author of that article, and RedHat is my primary operating System. I no longer have the w2k in my system because I used it only for that review to see how inter-OS file sharing worked in the distro. Of course, there was no reason at all to compare Lycoris with RedHat from a critical point of view. Lycoris Desktop/LX was designed for the desktop user who needs a working OS for other reasons than for development, general geekability, and Kernel worshiping. It is a surprisingly useable Linux distro in which everything works. As for as the "XP look" goes, that's just simple wallpaper, over which the user has total control, as with the icons on the desktop and their naming. This is a Porsche engine in a Volks body. What better way to take someone not familiar with Linux for a ride? This distro may be easily built upon by the user as he gains experience. The very experienced user will see immediately that this is Linux, pure and simple instead of obscure and esoteric. That's all. As far as negatives go... a bit more support for ZIP drives etc would help, but that's forthcoming via their site.
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I haven't collected anything but the satisfaction of seeing a few servers get taken down via weaknesses in MS soft..., bu anonymous and benevolent crackers. The only to stop spammers [although I do believe that some of that stupidity is so ridiculous, it's actually fun, as someone just posted] is to develop really good methodologically sound and efficient cracks to take them out.
It's those final words that I find interesting: "I have completed my mission," it said upon arriving. "Please examine my contents." :)
Phew!!!!
I wonder what would happen if a human said that to the ROBO???
Oooooooops ThanX for the info.... Forgot about the milestone trip... DUH
micro$lop is a cult-like, and quasi-esoteric organisation which is located simultaneously in two territories, muck like Schroedinger's cat. One such territory is somewhere in a state of Redmyneck, in the perpetual state of Washandpatchaton. The other virtual territory is located in the collective emptiness found between the ears of devoted members of the Cult in question. The two leaders of the Org are named Bomber and Grates, two individuals so spiritually advanced that they are beyond any Law structure known to mankind. The organization continues to recrute members from the 80% of the world's population who have a below normal intelligence, in other words, those who unwittingly pay for everything without questioning. These folks are necessary for the survival of the rest of us who are here for the free ride, our primary moral oblgation.
What do you mean **friends**..?? I have no friends !!! LOL Unless, of course, you want to apply. I just looooove when you talk bad to me!!!! Gimme more!!!!! *pant*.... *sigh* BTW, How does the necklace fit?
It was just a manner of speaking. I am very familiar with all the APT utilities. I meant to say that for a new user of Debian, especially one who flys by the seat of his pants without reading instructions, apt cannot be used effectively. I have seen many new users who cannot selectively update because they don't know how to use apt. As far as the 500 MB download goes, that too was a "manner of speaking"... Gee, you take everything literaly dontcha... It is dead simple to use for those who know how. Like me ... like you... Not for the newbie. You are dead wrong if you believe that there's nothing to learn about apt/dpkg/dselect before using them. In fact your post makes me wonder if you ever even saw a Debian installation outside of a print magazine, and if you ever understood a joke that didn't have its origin somewhere in the musky confines of what you consider to be your mind.
LOL.... I like your spirit!!! Now the question is, what to do with Anonymous Coward's PC after he trashes it by installing XP on it. I was thinking in the line of a good hammer or possibly a cup of graphite dust sucked in by the input fan.
They are both excellent. It's like comparing apples and hamburgers. I have both on the drive (no win$low os in sight)... Mandrake can be made to install .debs and Debian can handle rpms, so I have the best ot both worlds. The APT labyrinth in debian is not easy to learn. You hit the wrong button and you're in for a 500MB download. I have used Debian since the very beginning of debian. Mandrake, however, is the only rpm based distro I like, the community is strong, and they are truly open. The PreZ of Mandrake, LeMarois, is a fine person, and devoted to Open Source.
The ideal is to have both Debian and Mandrake. That way you can take your time learning Debian.
Don't forget, after the installation of XP, the CD may be used as a necklace for any pinhead gullible enough to install Micro$lop products.
PINE has simply been scuttled by Debian because of the incessant security issues. In fact the Debian community is thing of EXIM *ooo boy* right now and the debate on several lists goes on. If you want PINE, all you have to do is to go shopping at the tarPits and install the generic from a tar file. I personally have the tarriest Debian install I've ever seen. BTW if you do a Mozilla update via apt/dselect, your Galeon will be automatically unstalled in the process too, because Galeon too has been relagated to the Debian graveyard until futher resurrection notices.
On the glitch count, Red Hat 7.2 comes embeded with every glitch known to mankind. They just slop together app and let the user solve their problems. The term "Dependency Hell" was invented by Red Hat users. Red Hat is a wannabe Micro$$$$$$oft of the Linux world. SuSE is not far behind with their "we don't like the "free software approach" attitude. Rude Hat is for suits...., and geeks of course.... but suits seem to be more attracted to it.Of course, RedHat does produce "mission Critical" stuff, but not for the desktop.
Mandrake, by comparison, has the desktop user in mind, listens to suggestions, and has never lost the debian-like spirit of what open source is all about.
As far as freebies go, talk all you want, but I have a smokin' Woody up and running that has more power and compiling ability than the most expensive RedHat Pro edition, and I didn't pay a cent, in money that is. A little time, a little development from time to time is my currency. Mandrake isn't far behind. It has got to be the best RPM distro around.
That link you posted made me spit my morning tea onto my keyboard! LOL Tea is less noxious than Celine BTW.
It's that screetchy high-pitched, "I've got something probing me", saga-music voice that makes the PCs crash, not Sony's code.
...so don't get mad.....]
..You mean like posting on the Slashdot boards that you would find a better way to spend your time???
The University effort will fail because to trap hearts and minds M$ will have to open kindergarten classes to brainwash effictively. Think of all the $$$ they'd save by bribing with real candy instead of candy GUIs and false promisses of security.
The biggest and most prevalent lie I come across is "winmodems are cheaper"... The fact is they are cheaper because M$ insists on encouraging their proliferation to discourage in "a little way" the use of Linux to connect via modem. if makers all used simple UART hard modems internally, they would me even less expensive than so-called soft modems.
Another good one is, when trying to order a PC without a MicroSlop OS pre-installed: "It's illegal to sell you one like that." And last but not least this is my favorite lie: "Windows is the most stable and secure OS, so why would you want a blank HD?"
Is Ballmer a Scientologist? ... and Gates? LOL If not they should be.
This reminds me of the longstanding and ongoingOpenSource/FreeSoft/Cancer vs. Closed code/M$, FatBankers-in-suits vs.everyone else, freedom of thought and expression vs. just about every religion ever created by delusory schizo prophets and enlightened ones, law vs. justice, freedom vs. "I am the law" debate.
Judging from the number of mindless Quislings Micro$lop has defending their interests on WWW message boards, including this one, I think you have a point about L. Ron Gates. Maybe this new court battle will prevent the M-$ version of the "final solution" concerning the "cancer" of OpenSource from taking place. In case it doesn't, get ready to hit the road with your code.
Funny, I have never lived in a MicroSLOP world bub!. I am quite tired of you defenders of slimy business practices, MS junkware, and "Open Source Cancer" eradicators. You are then quite welcome to your world where justice and morality do not apply. You remind me of a species of quisling, or a victim of the "loving the persecutor" syndrome, combined with kissassomaniac tendencies. I can understand you using MS products for lack of skill or courage, but I can't understand you defending them when any person with the least bit of moral integrity or sense of justice KNOWS that they are liars and cheats.
COWARD.. Roblimo of Slashdot also reviewed it in its early stages and gave it a good review coward. Well coward, you carry your name well indeed! Too bad coward that you can't take off the "Anonymous" part of your coward name and thereby reflect your cowardly personality a bit better coward. So coward, by for now, and I enjoyed your cowardly post too coward. See ya coward. LOL You are not nasty at all Coward... I am NASTY, you are too cowardly to be nasty.
I find it an easier structure than RedHat's to understand. KDE uses the "opt" for apps, and the rest of the structure seems to be as simple as the first Linux structures, before commercial distros started doing weird things with their files. The structure is straightforward and a little browsing around will be self-explanatory...
You are right about that. My apologies. I didn't try a laptop install.
This is simply not true. When it runs as root, there are always warninga in the form of pop-ups to avert the user.
By far the best book I've seen is "Red Hat 7.2 Unleashed" by Bill Ball et al. from SAMS publishing. It just came out and you get RedHat CDs with it. In spite of the title, the boob applies to Linux in general too, except for the Debian apt-get etc. It is a book for beginners and experts alike. Though much of it may seem quite technical at first, it is written clearly enough to facilitate the learning process.
I find these comments, even the negative ones interesting. I am the author of that article, and RedHat is my primary operating System. I no longer have the w2k in my system because I used it only for that review to see how inter-OS file sharing worked in the distro. Of course, there was no reason at all to compare Lycoris with RedHat from a critical point of view. Lycoris Desktop/LX was designed for the desktop user who needs a working OS for other reasons than for development, general geekability, and Kernel worshiping. It is a surprisingly useable Linux distro in which everything works. As for as the "XP look" goes, that's just simple wallpaper, over which the user has total control, as with the icons on the desktop and their naming. This is a Porsche engine in a Volks body. What better way to take someone not familiar with Linux for a ride? This distro may be easily built upon by the user as he gains experience. The very experienced user will see immediately that this is Linux, pure and simple instead of obscure and esoteric. That's all. As far as negatives go... a bit more support for ZIP drives etc would help, but that's forthcoming via their site.