Should end the old argument about which is better, the habitual, easy to read, but easy to screw up or abuse:
if(variable == CONSTANT) { }
Or the safe version that's so much harder to screw up and which turns out to be just as easy to read with practice:
if(CONSTANT == variable) { }
Do we all understand the real world significance of this now?
If you still want to advocate (variable == CONSTANT), then please feel free to prove that no accidental or abusive (variable = CONSTANT) exist in the kernel.
Our employers are spending more on foreign manufactured goods! When they accidentally give money to a domestically owned company, it's squirreled away in an offshore account. Huzzah for the economy!
> just as they're "stealing" "our" ideas that WORK.
Open Source ideas like bash-a-like shells?
If you can name three original ideas that were generated by an open source / free software project rather than being appropriated from Unix, Windows, or MacOS, I'll eat my hat without salt.
We have to develop this so that when we give it to a momentarily friendly tin pot dictator, we'll know how to defend against it when he inevitable turns on us.
I note that you cited a PETA claim as one of your sources. If PETA told me that cows eat grass, I'd go and check myself to make sure.
Beef cattle are slaughtered at 18 months. Add a little more for the breeding cows, and you can push it to two years average. Find your own links.
Since your 700/100 lbs per cow is from a completely unreferenced anecdote, I'll throw in one of my own. McDonalds burgers are 100% beef, because they are (very nearly) 100% of the cow. Picture a huge cow sized grinder, making cow paste. You don't have to believe me; instead, find me anyone who works in the slaughter industry who'll eat a fast food burger.
Allah preserve all the nations of the world that are currently squatting on America's foreign oil reserves. I'd call 35mpg reasonable, I'd want 40 upwards.
Just because you can get monster trucks masquerading as family cars that are appalingly inefficient doesn't make it reasonable to settle for fairly inefficient as an average.
You can help to change US foreign policy by change your assumptions right here and now. Yes, you over there, I'm watching you.
And I know most of you weenies won't read it, so here's my synopsis:
IBM said we're liars. Well, they're the liar, liar, and their pants are on fire (seriouly, read SCO's filing, the language is one notch above this level).
We already told IBM exactly what they stole. In, uh, a phone call. Or maybe a face-to-face meeting. No, we forgot to write it down, and now those liar liars at IBM claim we didn't tell them.
Despite just having said that we've told them what we stole, we actually don't, so they have to tell us. Seriously. "[SCO's claims] can be supplemented upon receiving the information from IBM, [who can] identify who at IBM made the unlawful contributions to Linux, to whom they were made, when they were made, and other related details." Related details, like, for example, what the source is? SCO really are saying that it's up to IBM to list what they stole.
IBM misquoted us as claiming during a trade show that they put some code into the linux kernel. Ha, the joke's on them, because we had no fucking idea who put that code there, although some nice people later did our job for us and figured out that it was SGI. Aren't IBM idiots!
Everything in UNIX or derived from unix is a trade secret - yes even the stuff we took from BSD and other publically, published sources - so IBM breached their contract by publishing any of it or anything that they wrote that works with UNIX, and now they have to provide the memos that showed they did it deliberately so that we can win 3 billion dollars and buy a Carribean island to retire to.
I'm stunned. But not so stunned that I can't synopsise SCO's entire argument so far for those who haven't been paying attention:
SCO: You stole all of UNIX by adding some code that you wrote into linux! Give us 3 billion dollars, but first give us details of your secret plans to steal UNIX from us.
IBM: Um, what parts of UNIX did we steal exactly?
SCO: All of it! it all belongs to us! Even the parts that you wrote! Give us all your secret plans!
Darl, next time get an actual lawyer to write your motions, not one of your press flacks.
In as much as Al Quada achieved most of its long held goals, including getting USia out of Saudi Arabia, bankrupting the USA, whipping up fear and loathing of it all across the Islamic world, and as a special bonus, seeing Bush use 9/11 as a pretext to take out a secular regime that both he and bin Laden have always hated. As for Afghanistan, heh, sure, we sure stablised the hell out of that, didn't we?
The asshats who carried out 9/11 were cretinous murdering pawns, sure, but their masters achieved most of their goals.
Now that we've established that terrorism works, we can get back to the debate.
Making copies for non-commercial purposes is already a criminal act in the USA.
Title 17, Chapter 5, Sec. 506 - Criminal Offences.
(a) Criminal Infringement. -
Any person who infringes a copyright willfully either
(1) for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain, or
(2) by the reproduction or distribution, including by electronic means, during any 180-day period, of 1 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of more than $1,000,
shall be punished as provided under section 2319 of title 18, United States Code.
Title 18, Section 2319 - Criminal infringement of a copyright
Any person who commits an offense under section 506(a)(2) [as referenced above] of title 17, United States Code -
(1) shall be imprisoned not more than 3 years, or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both, if the offense consists of the reproduction or distribution of 10 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of $2,500 or more;
(2) shall be imprisoned not more than 6 years, or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both, if the offense is a second or subsequent offense under paragraph (1); and
(3) shall be imprisoned not more than 1 year, or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both, if the offense consists of the reproduction or distribution of 1 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of more than $1,000.
If you count from the point where they acknowledge their existence. Hey, if they stop doing acknowledging the bugs, does that mean that they can fix them before they even exist? Spooooky.
Step 0: Buy a few strategic Senators and Congress weasels. Make sure that you get honest ones, i.e. ones that will stay bought. If you can't find any that are in need of "campaign contributions", remember that very few people will refuse the offer of a limosine full of roofied wannabe starlets and a Bargain Bucket of grade A Bolivian marching powder.
Is the cognitive dissonance kicking in yet? Are you feeling compelled to slap this as a troll, rather than actually looking into how many patches there are for lunix systems? Do we care about the lunixatics that got rooted by ssh or sendmail vulnerabilities down the years? Can we even acknowledge their existence? Do we remember the FSF's ftp server getting hax0red out from under them?
How much will Slashdot have to pay them to put my username under "Welcome to Slashdot"?
I'd weep, but it's just too much. It's gone beyond farce, and far beyond my ability to rage against it. All we can do is to trust that they don't use their powers for evil.
Fair enough, you're quite right. Given the obvious slant of the article, it's actually surprising that he bothers to distinguish between use and distribution/derivation at all. I guess a tiny twinge of conscience remains.
But, by golly, I'm thinking of becoming one. It looks like a lot of fun.
Should end the old argument about which is better, the habitual, easy to read, but easy to screw up or abuse:
if(variable == CONSTANT) { }
Or the safe version that's so much harder to screw up and which turns out to be just as easy to read with practice:
if(CONSTANT == variable) { }
Do we all understand the real world significance of this now?
If you still want to advocate (variable == CONSTANT), then please feel free to prove that no accidental or abusive (variable = CONSTANT) exist in the kernel.
I must say, I had not heard about this under promoted, under hyped event, and I thank you for bringing it to my attention at last.
Our employers are spending more on foreign manufactured goods! When they accidentally give money to a domestically owned company, it's squirreled away in an offshore account. Huzzah for the economy!
> just as they're "stealing" "our" ideas that WORK.
Open Source ideas like bash-a-like shells?
If you can name three original ideas that were generated by an open source / free software project rather than being appropriated from Unix, Windows, or MacOS, I'll eat my hat without salt.
> How marketable do you imagine a 200 lb. Britney Spears would be?
I dunno, but how long would it take her to lose that much weight?
Citizen, your license to exist is revoked. Please report to your nearest recycling centre.
I can't be bothered looking at listings to see when it's on, and I'm too cheap to buy it on DVD. Can you share it on Kazaa, please?
We have to develop this so that when we give it to a momentarily friendly tin pot dictator, we'll know how to defend against it when he inevitable turns on us.
"Don't be evil."
But neither would a Hummer. I guess we'll all have to drive eighteen wheelers to be safe.
But now you'll live for 400 years, you selfish bastard. Eat beef and die young, I say.
I note that you cited a PETA claim as one of your sources. If PETA told me that cows eat grass, I'd go and check myself to make sure.
Beef cattle are slaughtered at 18 months. Add a little more for the breeding cows, and you can push it to two years average. Find your own links.
Since your 700/100 lbs per cow is from a completely unreferenced anecdote, I'll throw in one of my own. McDonalds burgers are 100% beef, because they are (very nearly) 100% of the cow. Picture a huge cow sized grinder, making cow paste. You don't have to believe me; instead, find me anyone who works in the slaughter industry who'll eat a fast food burger.
Allah preserve all the nations of the world that are currently squatting on America's foreign oil reserves. I'd call 35mpg reasonable, I'd want 40 upwards.
Just because you can get monster trucks masquerading as family cars that are appalingly inefficient doesn't make it reasonable to settle for fairly inefficient as an average.
You can help to change US foreign policy by change your assumptions right here and now. Yes, you over there, I'm watching you.
And I know most of you weenies won't read it, so here's my synopsis:
I'm stunned. But not so stunned that I can't synopsise SCO's entire argument so far for those who haven't been paying attention:
Darl, next time get an actual lawyer to write your motions, not one of your press flacks.
Well at least he's an honest policitian. He stays bought.
The gubmint puts in traffic lights, because we can't be trusted to drive courteously and responsibly.
The gubmit puts in back doors to the system, because surely nobody would be discourteous or irresponsible enough to abuse them.
To nobody's great surprise, it turns out that they were right the first time.
In as much as Al Quada achieved most of its long held goals, including getting USia out of Saudi Arabia, bankrupting the USA, whipping up fear and loathing of it all across the Islamic world, and as a special bonus, seeing Bush use 9/11 as a pretext to take out a secular regime that both he and bin Laden have always hated. As for Afghanistan, heh, sure, we sure stablised the hell out of that, didn't we?
The asshats who carried out 9/11 were cretinous murdering pawns, sure, but their masters achieved most of their goals.
Now that we've established that terrorism works, we can get back to the debate.
>He actually stopped spamming people, that means we won.
But, your Honour, I stopped burgling people after I made enough money to buy myself a stable of hookers. Justice has been done!
Making copies for non-commercial purposes is already a criminal act in the USA.
Title 17, Chapter 5, Sec. 506 - Criminal Offences.
(a) Criminal Infringement. -
Any person who infringes a copyright willfully either
(1)
for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain, or
(2)
by the reproduction or distribution, including by electronic means, during any 180-day period, of 1 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of more than $1,000,
shall be punished as provided under section 2319 of title 18, United States Code.
Title 18, Section 2319 - Criminal infringement of a copyright
Any person who commits an offense under section 506(a)(2) [as referenced above] of title 17, United States Code -
(1)
shall be imprisoned not more than 3 years, or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both, if the offense consists of the reproduction or distribution of 10 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of $2,500 or more;
(2)
shall be imprisoned not more than 6 years, or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both, if the offense is a second or subsequent offense under paragraph (1); and
(3)
shall be imprisoned not more than 1 year, or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both, if the offense consists of the reproduction or distribution of 1 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of more than $1,000.
If you count from the point where they acknowledge their existence. Hey, if they stop doing acknowledging the bugs, does that mean that they can fix them before they even exist? Spooooky.
Step 0: Buy a few strategic Senators and Congress weasels. Make sure that you get honest ones, i.e. ones that will stay bought. If you can't find any that are in need of "campaign contributions", remember that very few people will refuse the offer of a limosine full of roofied wannabe starlets and a Bargain Bucket of grade A Bolivian marching powder.
I'd post more, but I have to save my bandwidth for downloading half a gig of patches for one of Win2K's lunix contemporaries.
Is the cognitive dissonance kicking in yet? Are you feeling compelled to slap this as a troll, rather than actually looking into how many patches there are for lunix systems? Do we care about the lunixatics that got rooted by ssh or sendmail vulnerabilities down the years? Can we even acknowledge their existence? Do we remember the FSF's ftp server getting hax0red out from under them?
Hello? Hello?
How much will Slashdot have to pay them to put my username under "Welcome to Slashdot"?
I'd weep, but it's just too much. It's gone beyond farce, and far beyond my ability to rage against it. All we can do is to trust that they don't use their powers for evil.
God help us all.
Fair enough, you're quite right. Given the obvious slant of the article, it's actually surprising that he bothers to distinguish between use and distribution/derivation at all. I guess a tiny twinge of conscience remains.