No they're not - they're suing the ones who download the music for free, not the ones who actually go out and buy CDs. They are two very different groups. People who pirate their music are not their "customers," in any sense of the word. People who download music pay no money to the RIAA. Whenever they want a song, they just download it. They are no more "customers" of the RIAA than a shoplifter is a "customer" of Walmart
You are making quite a few assumptions, how do you know that the person who downloaded a song hasn't already bought a copy on cd ?.
40 million americans do it, the RIAA can not sue all of them (I'm speaking practically not technically).
I say bring it on, they (the MPAA and RIAA) say that sharing on the internet (or "piracy" as they call it) will eventually mean that they won't have enough money to produce artists and movies. You know what would happen then ?, some clever enterprising person who is more in tune with music listeners and movie goers want would step in start there own label or studio and start making money by providing music and movies in a way that the customer wants.
They wouldn't make the same obscene profits that the record companies and movie studios currently make because their business model wouldn't be as entrenched as that of the current entertainment industry.
I actually don't think it will turn out like this. The movie industry in particular has got a sweet setup. I love going to the cinema, even if the movie isn't that good, and the popularity of DVD proves that people are willing to pay for high quality copies of their favourite movies. As for music, I think it will be a good long while yet before people switch all their music collection to a digitally compressed format and stop buying CD's but it probably will happen. You know who is best placed to make money out of this ?, yep the RIAA. Instead of listening to their customers and trying to make the best of the situation they are suing them.
BT is mnuch more controlable then other p2p apps. You need to have seed (or tracker) running to distribute a file. This means that the media companies have more control over exactly what file is being spread.
If the entertainment industry gives the green light to online media distribution via p2p then how long will it be before AOL has a p2p client built into their existing proprietry software ?. I think it's very possible that if the p2p develpers don't start making strong contacts with the biggest ISP's then they could be forced out of the market that they created.
It is the bandwidth with makes p2p work, which gives the ISP's the power. The concept of p2p is now well understood and it would be easy for any large ISP to develop their own p2p software. Best case scenario is that the ISP's recongise the need for interoperability and get together to create an open standard.
I'm not saying that everybody needs to stop contributing their pet projects to the communal good, but maybe the deal doesn't need to be made sweeter for these scummy companies that are building cheap foreign and selling expensive domestic. I'm starting to think that (L)GPLv3 should involve a clause invokable by the author of a project so covered that it not be used in any commercial application whether source is included or not.
This of course would play straight into the hands of the M$ and their negative marketing of open source as viral. Imagine an open source project that makes use of "Non-Commercial" code without realising and then all the companies that were using it suddenly have to stop.
Plus there are enough licences out there already we don't need to start some new GPL branches just to confuse things further.
doesn't have to fit on a floppy, a cd would do fine, but all the linux router distro's I have looked at (even the cd based ones) don't support USB. I'm not linux savy enough to modify a distro to include USB support so I don't have much options at the moment.
I don't think algorithms are invented any more than mathematical truths are invented, rather they are discovered.
Thats an interesting argument, imagine if Newton had been able to patent the use of the formulas he discovered ?. At the same time in today's competitive money focused world Newton may not have been able to claim credit for discovery without the patent system.
A place where you can call the bartender by name the second time you go in, and he knows you like your Jack & Cokes a little on the strong side because you're only mixing 'em to avoid looking like the alcoholic you are.
To be honest I think working in a pub has put me off them a little bit. I must be incredibly antiosocial cause I hate the customers who want you to be on first name terms and remember their drink, like I fvcking care. But I have to admit if I was the customer it might be the other way round, just glad that publican isn't my choosen profession.
Bartending School ?, your kidding right ?. I work in a bar, actually it's what we in the uk call a "pub" (short for "public house"). It's one of the most demanding types of barwork avaliable, you have regulars who expect you to be happy and willing to converse with them all the time (some of them have glasses with their names on), and on a friday or saturday night the bars are three or four people deep. I'm hardy what you would call a people person and have never done it before but I picked it up pretty quickly (it a lot easier than learning a programming language). If you can't pour a drink into a glass and consider yourself white collar then you deserve to be unemployed.
Contrast that to the modern state, where GDP impact of a war is more like 4%, which can almost be written off as statistical noise
Statistical noise ?, we are still talking about billions of dollars here. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if 4% of today's GDP is more than 22% of 1945's GDP (even after adjusting for inflation).
Those variations reflected any extra weight that was loaded onto the bars--in this case, masses as low as 5.5 femtograms could be detected. A femtogram is a billionth of a billionth of a gram, or roughly the mass of 122 gold atoms.
I hope everybody realises that the reason that the SCO stock price is rising is beacuse there is a good chance that they will make some money out of all of this.
Ever since Bush this year singled out hydrogen development as an energy priority, the fuel has been the buzzword in energy debates. Congress plans to pump more than $3 billion into hydrogen research over the next five years in hopes of putting fuel-cell-powered cars into showrooms by 2020. Industry is spending billions more to develop fuel cells, although their widespread use is probably still decades away.
Whats the betting that this will be held back until the oil companies have pumped every last drop out of the ground. I would like to be optimistic about a hydrogen economy but we all know how powerful and influential the oil companies are.
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Plowing through Potter 5 at the moment.
And you admit it ?
No they're not - they're suing the ones who download the music for free, not the ones who actually go out and buy CDs. They are two very different groups. People who pirate their music are not their "customers," in any sense of the word. People who download music pay no money to the RIAA. Whenever they want a song, they just download it. They are no more "customers" of the RIAA than a shoplifter is a "customer" of Walmart
You are making quite a few assumptions, how do you know that the person who downloaded a song hasn't already bought a copy on cd ?.
40 million americans do it, the RIAA can not sue all of them (I'm speaking practically not technically).
I say bring it on, they (the MPAA and RIAA) say that sharing on the internet (or "piracy" as they call it) will eventually mean that they won't have enough money to produce artists and movies. You know what would happen then ?, some clever enterprising person who is more in tune with music listeners and movie goers want would step in start there own label or studio and start making money by providing music and movies in a way that the customer wants.
They wouldn't make the same obscene profits that the record companies and movie studios currently make because their business model wouldn't be as entrenched as that of the current entertainment industry.
I actually don't think it will turn out like this. The movie industry in particular has got a sweet setup. I love going to the cinema, even if the movie isn't that good, and the popularity of DVD proves that people are willing to pay for high quality copies of their favourite movies. As for music, I think it will be a good long while yet before people switch all their music collection to a digitally compressed format and stop buying CD's but it probably will happen. You know who is best placed to make money out of this ?, yep the RIAA. Instead of listening to their customers and trying to make the best of the situation they are suing them.
NAT is the spawn of Satan, SATAN!!!
Why ?
BT is mnuch more controlable then other p2p apps. You need to have seed (or tracker) running to distribute a file. This means that the media companies have more control over exactly what file is being spread.
or Microsoft
oh wait...
If the entertainment industry gives the green light to online media distribution via p2p then how long will it be before AOL has a p2p client built into their existing proprietry software ?. I think it's very possible that if the p2p develpers don't start making strong contacts with the biggest ISP's then they could be forced out of the market that they created.
It is the bandwidth with makes p2p work, which gives the ISP's the power. The concept of p2p is now well understood and it would be easy for any large ISP to develop their own p2p software. Best case scenario is that the ISP's recongise the need for interoperability and get together to create an open standard.
I'm not saying that everybody needs to stop contributing their pet projects to the communal good, but maybe the deal doesn't need to be made sweeter for these scummy companies that are building cheap foreign and selling expensive domestic. I'm starting to think that (L)GPLv3 should involve a clause invokable by the author of a project so covered that it not be used in any commercial application whether source is included or not.
This of course would play straight into the hands of the M$ and their negative marketing of open source as viral. Imagine an open source project that makes use of "Non-Commercial" code without realising and then all the companies that were using it suddenly have to stop.
Plus there are enough licences out there already we don't need to start some new GPL branches just to confuse things further.
I would prefer something that doesn't touch the hard drive.
I reckon they were prolly trying to say one of three things (in order of likelyhood)...
1) first post !
2) All your base are belong to us
3) imagine a beowulf cluster of these things
doesn't have to fit on a floppy, a cd would do fine, but all the linux router distro's I have looked at (even the cd based ones) don't support USB. I'm not linux savy enough to modify a distro to include USB support so I don't have much options at the moment.
anyone know of one that will support my usb alcatel adsl modem ?
Where's the SCO pun ?
Will this is going to signal a change in the way record companies think about file sharing?
Lets Fvcking hope so.
Notably beer-bottle labels and those cardboard beer-coasters they give you in bars, I just can't stop peeling and/or ripping them to shreds.
Isn't that supposed to be sign of sexual frustration ?.
I don't think algorithms are invented any more than mathematical truths are invented, rather they are discovered.
Thats an interesting argument, imagine if Newton had been able to patent the use of the formulas he discovered ?. At the same time in today's competitive money focused world Newton may not have been able to claim credit for discovery without the patent system.
Can anyone tell me what this drink is ?,
a shot of southern comfort, a shot of vodka, shot of lime, all in a half pint glass topped up with soda.
A place where you can call the bartender by name the second time you go in, and he knows you like your Jack & Cokes a little on the strong side because you're only mixing 'em to avoid looking like the alcoholic you are.
To be honest I think working in a pub has put me off them a little bit. I must be incredibly antiosocial cause I hate the customers who want you to be on first name terms and remember their drink, like I fvcking care. But I have to admit if I was the customer it might be the other way round, just glad that publican isn't my choosen profession.
So I just completed bartending school
Bartending School ?, your kidding right ?. I work in a bar, actually it's what we in the uk call a "pub" (short for "public house"). It's one of the most demanding types of barwork avaliable, you have regulars who expect you to be happy and willing to converse with them all the time (some of them have glasses with their names on), and on a friday or saturday night the bars are three or four people deep. I'm hardy what you would call a people person and have never done it before but I picked it up pretty quickly (it a lot easier than learning a programming language). If you can't pour a drink into a glass and consider yourself white collar then you deserve to be unemployed.
Contrast that to the modern state, where GDP impact of a war is more like 4%, which can almost be written off as statistical noise
Statistical noise ?, we are still talking about billions of dollars here. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if 4% of today's GDP is more than 22% of 1945's GDP (even after adjusting for inflation).
Could this money have not been better spent ?
Those variations reflected any extra weight that was loaded onto the bars--in this case, masses as low as 5.5 femtograms could be detected. A femtogram is a billionth of a billionth of a gram, or roughly the mass of 122 gold atoms.
Or to put it another way... "Extremely Small".
I hope everybody realises that the reason that the SCO stock price is rising is beacuse there is a good chance that they will make some money out of all of this.
It has been interesting to follow the trail of so many products through so many hands.
Of course when you say "Interesting" you really mean "Confusing" don't you ?
Ever since Bush this year singled out hydrogen development as an energy priority, the fuel has been the buzzword in energy debates. Congress plans to pump more than $3 billion into hydrogen research over the next five years in hopes of putting fuel-cell-powered cars into showrooms by 2020. Industry is spending billions more to develop fuel cells, although their widespread use is probably still decades away.
Whats the betting that this will be held back until the oil companies have pumped every last drop out of the ground. I would like to be optimistic about a hydrogen economy but we all know how powerful and influential the oil companies are.
The funniest thing was having the BBC labelled as "Al Jazeera West" by right wing in the USA. These are the sort of people who take foxnews as gospel.