Yes. It will follow the same process that spamming does. They only need a marginal rate of return to jusitfy the expense.
While this may be true, raising the expense changes the nature of the equation...and anything would be an improvement over the situation today.
BTW, I'm sure most are aware, but the Supreme Court is currently looking at this question (the obvious part). If any of you hang out with SC justices, mentioning this latest retardation might help us all.
And people are going to be sent to jail, not because they lied about how much money their company mankes, but because they can't prove that they didn't lie about how much money their company makes.
You show me where that has happened that didn't involve fraud and we'll talk again. In all the corporate fraud cases, there is NO QUESTION they lied about how much money their company had. The only doubt they are trying to raise is personal knowledge of how it got to be that way.
You won't touch my "libertarian ranting" because you know it is true, and there is no arguement you can make.
I know it to be true to you. It is a matter of faith to you and therefore beyond rational argument. Mix in the paranoia angle, and it's foolish to even attempt to discuss....as your expanded rant demonstrates.
I am just noting that a Corporation is a legal person.
You should have put both "legal person" in quotes, since that is different from a real person. Real people die. Real people can be put in prison. Real people can be put in prison to die.
I think 5 or 10 years from now, after SOX is repealed and replaced with something a little less insane, we will look back and wonder how we managed to do business with all these restrictions.
I certainly agree with that (and I'm one of those people whoring for said firms at present). It was/is reactionary legislation that should be tempered with time.
HOWEVER, we need to make damned sure that CEOs are held responsible for their financial statements. As CEO pay continues to skyrocket (and sometimes to the detriment of regular workers) there simply must be bottom line accountability. The buck has to stop at the top, no questions. And the penalties should be stiff and prompt. We're not there yet.
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PUBLIC CORPORATIONS ARE NOT PEOPLE!!!!11!!!!
Any metaphor drawn from that cloth is fundamentally flawed.
The "innocence" you say must be proved is, in reality, reports on how much money the corporation has/owes/and is owed. As these numbers HUGELY influence how real people invest their own money, it is requisite for our entire system of finance that these numbers be accurate and trusted.
SOX might be a bit onerous, but that's only because things had become so lax....and Lay was the perfect example of how they were so lax that CEO's could try and argue in court they had no idea how much the company has/owes/and is owed.
I'll not touch your liberaltarian ranting that follows...I hear they're infectious.
Better yet, Halliburton got someone else to fight most of the war for them, and then they get the profits of private business from the war! How cool is that?
Almost as cool as understanding why many folks who call for 'privatization' of industry happen to know someone in that industry. It's called a "complex" for a reason.
The service is called IPTV. You know what the IP stands for.
The internet and the TV are on seperate bandwidth, exclusive to their users.
Not if the telcos do it. That's why they don't want the network neutrality written into law. What they do want is to be able to tag and prioritize packets. I'm sorry, but I don't see how a router that is giving preferential treatment to Verizon HD-IPTV packets is still going to be able to provide the same level of service to packets without the "Verizon Gold Pass" header.
Bah, competition should be from stations and channels, not providers.
There's less competition than before, and the sooner and easier it is for additional companies like AT&T and Verizon to roll out competing services, the better.
You do understand that in order to do so they have to hijack the internet, right? That's the whole point on network neutrality. It no longer becomes a neutral internet that anyone can use the same, it becomes a dedicated pipe for AT&T/Verizon services.
It sounds Arab. Therefore sounds terrorist. Considering the number of people who mod without reading, it makes sense to "trust" the original poster.
Didn't you think, first thought, that it was probably a good counterpoint?/. rocks at that kind of stuff, and you come to expect it.
Carry on. BTW, those sites that were banned are hate sites, preaching the same kind of things we condemn terrorists for preaching.
And for the unitiated.
Al Qeada = KKK
The KKK was once quite popular, until it was exposed for what it was...a bunch of red-neck idiots legitimizing their power grab in a time of great change through religion and racist ideology.
Oh, yeah, and they murdered people to scare other people into submission.
Unless you think all of the U.S. was the KKK, don't associate all of Islam with Al Kayda.
you should have also pointed out that he was comparing apples (listing on google news) to oranges (being indexed) and is, in fact, even dumber than the average person that uses the term "Islamofascist" to mean "Muslim".
Besides, you only need to read one sentence of each of those stories to understand the author's point.
GN needs to be MORE vigilant in keeping out the nutjobs. The idea that powerline is still listed is somewhat disturbing. And I'd say the same thing about DU.
It's worse than that. The rationalization is already there. You may remember Mr. Cheney mentioning during the last election cycle that if the Democrats took control, we would most assuredly be attacked by terrorists. Therefore, it IS national security to keep the neocons in power.
"It's absolutely essential that eight weeks from today, on November 2nd, we make the right choice, because if we make the wrong choice then the danger is that we'll get hit again," the vice president said, "that we'll be hit in a way that will be devastating from the standpoint of the United States, and that we'll fall back into the pre-9/11 mind-set, if you will, that in fact these terrorist attacks are just criminal acts and that we are not really at war."
This is not true, in my experience. I'm running an AMD 64 X2 4200+ (w/Geforce 78000 OC) and it runs games and other apps incredibly well. I can get upwards of 50-60 fps in Fear while recording a TV program (media center), ripping mp3s, and leaving 10-15 browser windows open.
Sure, you can get a few more fps by killing everything else (which is what I normally do), but I think you'd be surprised at how well the dual core chips handle multiple tasks simultaneously. It's, you know, kinda what they were designed for.
You do have a point on the virus checks, however, but for apps where processing power is the bottleneck (and not reading every bit on your hd), SMP is quite nice.
It's a fairly simple concept. There is a disconnect in the ratings process that requires (err, required at the time I was doing this...about 6 years ago) people to write down the name of the station they were listening to at a particular moment. If someone remembers certain call letter and writes those down, then it counts as a listener...regardless of what *really* happened.
Essentially it was exploiting a weakness in the ratings protocol, if that makes it seem more palatable to you.
I used to run the databases for the a marketing company that would try to mimic Neilsen's (and Arbitron's) methodology for selecting people. We would then bombard the neighborhood with direct mail for radio and TV stations. Contests and write ins and such.
The idea was to get the call letters top of mind so that if a real journal came in, the target would remember that, write it down, and it would be like all 10,000 people you mailed were listening/watching.
WASHINGTON - A year ago, at a Quaker Meeting House in Lake Worth, Fla., a small group of activists met to plan a protest of military recruiting at local high schools. What they didn't know was that their meeting had come to the attention of the U.S. military.
A secret 400-page Defense Department document obtained by NBC News lists the Lake Worth meeting as a "threat" and one of more than 1,500 "suspicious incidents" across the country over a recent 10-month period.
It's just a shifting of the ad revenue. As TV viewership falls, advertisers have to find a new way to reach their audience. As the younger audience is increasingly online, this is a natural move for advertising revenue. Becuase of the nature of the medium (open) the revenue will be more widely distributed, but it will still, ultimately, pool at the top.
There will be more people making money at blogging, but there will be less making money in TV.
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Sorry, you are wrong (IMHO).
For the Doom 3 they did hire a professional writer and it showed. The voice acting part of the story was *excellent*, and did a wonderful job to help keep the game moving and up the suspense. Take on the fact that all the sci-fi elements for most interplanetary storylines were included, and beyond just talking about how to make 'super fuel cells', you actually got to see the machine that did it (and one of the guys the machine cut in half).
Diablo 2 had a nice story? How is "Diablo Came Back Halfway Around the World" a nice story? Huh, the Northlands? Wha?!
True, they (street dealers) tend to traffic in first-run movies, but the price tends to be the reason that they have a market to work in, at all.
I'm not sure what would be a good way to attack the problem, but certainly agree that this is 'real' piracy, versus the mp3 trading that my group at work recently did via a gig usb stick and some sneakers.
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Bush has used this to challenge 750 laws so far, one of which includes the ban on the torture of detainees.
The word is "sidestep"..not "challenge".
Ole!
Yes. It will follow the same process that spamming does. They only need a marginal rate of return to jusitfy the expense.
While this may be true, raising the expense changes the nature of the equation...and anything would be an improvement over the situation today.
BTW, I'm sure most are aware, but the Supreme Court is currently looking at this question (the obvious part). If any of you hang out with SC justices, mentioning this latest retardation might help us all.
And people are going to be sent to jail, not because they lied about how much money their company mankes, but because they can't prove that they didn't lie about how much money their company makes.
You show me where that has happened that didn't involve fraud and we'll talk again. In all the corporate fraud cases, there is NO QUESTION they lied about how much money their company had. The only doubt they are trying to raise is personal knowledge of how it got to be that way.
You won't touch my "libertarian ranting" because you know it is true, and there is no arguement you can make.
I know it to be true to you. It is a matter of faith to you and therefore beyond rational argument. Mix in the paranoia angle, and it's foolish to even attempt to discuss....as your expanded rant demonstrates.
I am just noting that a Corporation is a legal person.
You should have put both "legal person" in quotes, since that is different from a real person. Real people die. Real people can be put in prison. Real people can be put in prison to die.
Real people can vote.
I think 5 or 10 years from now, after SOX is repealed and replaced with something a little less insane, we will look back and wonder how we managed to do business with all these restrictions.
I certainly agree with that (and I'm one of those people whoring for said firms at present). It was/is reactionary legislation that should be tempered with time.
HOWEVER, we need to make damned sure that CEOs are held responsible for their financial statements. As CEO pay continues to skyrocket (and sometimes to the detriment of regular workers) there simply must be bottom line accountability. The buck has to stop at the top, no questions. And the penalties should be stiff and prompt. We're not there yet.
PUBLIC CORPORATIONS ARE NOT PEOPLE!!!!11!!!!
Any metaphor drawn from that cloth is fundamentally flawed.
The "innocence" you say must be proved is, in reality, reports on how much money the corporation has/owes/and is owed. As these numbers HUGELY influence how real people invest their own money, it is requisite for our entire system of finance that these numbers be accurate and trusted.
SOX might be a bit onerous, but that's only because things had become so lax....and Lay was the perfect example of how they were so lax that CEO's could try and argue in court they had no idea how much the company has/owes/and is owed.
I'll not touch your liberaltarian ranting that follows...I hear they're infectious.
Better yet, Halliburton got someone else to fight most of the war for them, and then they get the profits of private business from the war! How cool is that?
Almost as cool as understanding why many folks who call for 'privatization' of industry happen to know someone in that industry. It's called a "complex" for a reason.
How exactly are they hijacking the internet?
The service is called IPTV. You know what the IP stands for.
The internet and the TV are on seperate bandwidth, exclusive to their users.
Not if the telcos do it. That's why they don't want the network neutrality written into law. What they do want is to be able to tag and prioritize packets. I'm sorry, but I don't see how a router that is giving preferential treatment to Verizon HD-IPTV packets is still going to be able to provide the same level of service to packets without the "Verizon Gold Pass" header.
Bah, competition should be from stations and channels, not providers.
There's less competition than before, and the sooner and easier it is for additional companies like AT&T and Verizon to roll out competing services, the better.
You do understand that in order to do so they have to hijack the internet, right? That's the whole point on network neutrality. It no longer becomes a neutral internet that anyone can use the same, it becomes a dedicated pipe for AT&T/Verizon services.
But I damn well expect if Verizon is charging the sites I go to, that they're not charging me.
Umm, an extra charge for any service you use is going to come back to you(period).
...this couldn't be known until the egg hatched...and you have a chicken.
duuhh.
/. rocks at that kind of stuff, and you come to expect it.
It sounds Arab. Therefore sounds terrorist. Considering the number of people who mod without reading, it makes sense to "trust" the original poster.
Didn't you think, first thought, that it was probably a good counterpoint?
Carry on. BTW, those sites that were banned are hate sites, preaching the same kind of things we condemn terrorists for preaching.
And for the unitiated.
Al Qeada = KKK
The KKK was once quite popular, until it was exposed for what it was...a bunch of red-neck idiots legitimizing their power grab in a time of great change through religion and racist ideology.
Oh, yeah, and they murdered people to scare other people into submission.
Unless you think all of the U.S. was the KKK, don't associate all of Islam with Al Kayda.
you should have also pointed out that he was comparing apples (listing on google news) to oranges (being indexed) and is, in fact, even dumber than the average person that uses the term "Islamofascist" to mean "Muslim".
Besides, you only need to read one sentence of each of those stories to understand the author's point.
GN needs to be MORE vigilant in keeping out the nutjobs. The idea that powerline is still listed is somewhat disturbing. And I'd say the same thing about DU.
The only problem with the Pledge is when the definition of "Liberty", "Justice" and, "All" changes.
Otherwise, it's a nifty piece of work (and way to stick it to those Godless Commies in the 50's Congress.../snark).
In the eyes of the government, we are all innocent until proven guilty.
That's Pre-9-11 thinking.
This is not true, in my experience. I'm running an AMD 64 X2 4200+ (w/Geforce 78000 OC) and it runs games and other apps incredibly well. I can get upwards of 50-60 fps in Fear while recording a TV program (media center), ripping mp3s, and leaving 10-15 browser windows open.
Sure, you can get a few more fps by killing everything else (which is what I normally do), but I think you'd be surprised at how well the dual core chips handle multiple tasks simultaneously. It's, you know, kinda what they were designed for.
You do have a point on the virus checks, however, but for apps where processing power is the bottleneck (and not reading every bit on your hd), SMP is quite nice.
It's a fairly simple concept. There is a disconnect in the ratings process that requires (err, required at the time I was doing this...about 6 years ago) people to write down the name of the station they were listening to at a particular moment. If someone remembers certain call letter and writes those down, then it counts as a listener...regardless of what *really* happened.
Essentially it was exploiting a weakness in the ratings protocol, if that makes it seem more palatable to you.
..they could be trying to spoil the pool.
I used to run the databases for the a marketing company that would try to mimic Neilsen's (and Arbitron's) methodology for selecting people. We would then bombard the neighborhood with direct mail for radio and TV stations. Contests and write ins and such.
The idea was to get the call letters top of mind so that if a real journal came in, the target would remember that, write it down, and it would be like all 10,000 people you mailed were listening/watching.
Jeez, a couple weeks of Doublespeak ("terrorist surviellance program") and a whole bunch of people forget what the hubbub is all about.
I do the same thing, and got busted for it by TurobTax the year before last.
Guess what, TaxCut works just as well...
And yes, I'll be installing CIV IV on all three of my machines.
It's just a shifting of the ad revenue. As TV viewership falls, advertisers have to find a new way to reach their audience. As the younger audience is increasingly online, this is a natural move for advertising revenue. Becuase of the nature of the medium (open) the revenue will be more widely distributed, but it will still, ultimately, pool at the top.
There will be more people making money at blogging, but there will be less making money in TV.
/fixed it for ya.
Sorry, you are wrong (IMHO).
For the Doom 3 they did hire a professional writer and it showed. The voice acting part of the story was *excellent*, and did a wonderful job to help keep the game moving and up the suspense. Take on the fact that all the sci-fi elements for most interplanetary storylines were included, and beyond just talking about how to make 'super fuel cells', you actually got to see the machine that did it (and one of the guys the machine cut in half).
Diablo 2 had a nice story? How is "Diablo Came Back Halfway Around the World" a nice story? Huh, the Northlands? Wha?!
That guy with the blanket full of discs isn't a small businessman - he's working for organized crime.
He's also filling a market need/imbalance. See: Movie Industry lowers prices in China to Fight Privacy.
True, they (street dealers) tend to traffic in first-run movies, but the price tends to be the reason that they have a market to work in, at all.
I'm not sure what would be a good way to attack the problem, but certainly agree that this is 'real' piracy, versus the mp3 trading that my group at work recently did via a gig usb stick and some sneakers.