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MySpace Makes it to Top 10 Internet Sites

prostoalex writes "Nielsen//NetRatings Top 10 is a monthly rating of top 10 Internet destinations. Generally dominated by Yahoo!, Microsoft, Google, AOL, eBay and similar major destinations, the list had a newcomer in March of this year. MySpace.com is 10th most visited Web site, losing to #9 Real.com only by 600,000 unique visits per month."

344 comments

  1. in other news by Loconut1389 · · Score: 5, Funny

    after the slashdot appearance of the article, MySpace.com is now #4.

    1. Re:in other news by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ugh, no thanks. That place is the most awful cespool on the Internet. 42TB pages, everybody's got their own shit music playing as if whoever visits wants to hear it, all for the privilege of girls with 6 inches of cake makeup posing for cleavage shots, guys dressed up like Gotti with one eyebrow raised, and the most inane, unintelligible comments imaginable, with a page width of 9,000 pixels because somebody posted a picture of a duck flying into a window with the caption "PWNED!" 14 years ago.

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    2. Re:in other news by Firehed · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Apparently I've avoided myspace better than you so I never had to put up with it. It's worse than I thought. Hopefully people will realize that static backgrounds are so 1996. Funny how that is... back when I was learning to code html in notepad, my websites looked about the same, but everything was lower resolution and I actually had to do it myself.

      They might as well just call it n00bspace.

      What really freaks me out is real.com at #9. Who the hell goes to real.com? Surely there isn't that big of a market for doing nothing but downloading the unquestionably worst media player in existance. Unless myspace makes you have realplayer installed to put up with the annoying crap in everyone's pages, so they've got the entire community of 'omg lookit me I've got my own website!!11' noobs worldwide, plus the odd person who actually thinks it's worthwhile.

      Maybe I'm just being overly fond of the days when even geeks had dialup and having your own 15mb web presence on Geocities was the cool thing to do (mine's still there!) You'd think that since you can get a domain plus enough hosting to do a mypsace page without the noob for about $30 a year, people might go for that option. Honestly, is myspace.com/noob any more attractive of a site address than geocities.com/noob? Why be a crappy wannabe when you can have noob.com and use your host's page builder app and do wannabe right?

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    3. Re:in other news by ToasterofDOOM · · Score: 1

      Amen brotha!

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      I am Spartacus
    4. Re:in other news by Eneff · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I, like you, missed the entire point of myspace for a few months.

      I still don't like it, but I understand it now. It's much like hanging out in a trendy nightclub. At home, I can make the drinks better, I have better taste in decor (what, dragons on the walls isn't better?), and I have full control of my castle.

      But the nightclub is where all the people are!

      It's a way to connect with all of your friends, with a common identification system. Yes, it's ugly as fuck, but that's not the point.

    5. Re:in other news by nmb3000 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Ugh, no thanks. That place is the most awful cespool on the Internet.

      No joke.

      I'm not sure what's worse, that MySpace made it to the top 10 or that Real's website was in the top 10.

      Either way society is/was/will be doomed.

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      /)
    6. Re:in other news by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

      But on the web, all the people are everywhere. It's just as esay to go from one noobspace page to another as it is go to your own site at a real host.

    7. Re:in other news by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 1

      I think I've only been to MySpace once... it wasn't very interesting.

    8. Re:in other news by Cutterex · · Score: 1

      In case anyone hasn't been informed of the "truth about myspace".

    9. Re:in other news by danamania · · Score: 1

      with a page width of 9,000 pixels because somebody posted a picture of a duck flying into a window with the caption "PWNED!" 14 years ago.

      That's partially the 'fault' of people who run sites with images that myspace users insist on hotlinking to. I know I'm not the only one tired of finding my bandwidth is a bit less than I thought after some popular myspace git has hotlinked an image (or a whole series of them) on my site, and every poor sod reading their page loads it forevermore.

      Now I just mod_rewrite all hotlinked referrals from myspace to load this 10,000 by 10,000 jpg. If it doesn't slow their machine down at least it screws up their page formatting something shocking. Hey, the web is free, they're allowed to hotlink images from my site - I make no guarantees those images will stay as they were seen of course - impolite treatment runs both ways.

      Not that most of them notice. Really. Thankfully the image is just a 900 byte broken jpeg header.

    10. Re:in other news by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 1

      You are so my hero.

      Out of curiosity, I loaded the image. Thank God for cheap RAM. One interesting thing, Nautilus can thumbnail it in around 250MB of RAM... Firefox took almost a gig.

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    11. Re:in other news by Jeremi · · Score: 1
      They might as well just call it n00bspace.


      They might as well call it AOL++. It's debatable whether moving all the training-wheels users from AOL to "the Internet proper" is a good thing, but I think that it is. It's one step closer towards having everyone using the Internet as it was intended to be used -- without being tied to a single giant ISP -- and for those of us who don't want to visit MySpace, nobody is forcing us to do so.

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      I don't care if it's 90,000 hectares. That lake was not my doing.
    12. Re:in other news by sacdelta · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I found it even more useful as a way to reconnect with people you haven't seen in awhile. I don't remember why I originally set up the page, but I managed to be found by people I haven't seen in 5-10 years. People who wandered to other parts of the globe. Of course I've had to deal with some more annoying aspects too, but the benefits definitely outweighed the costs. I just keep my friends list to people I've actually met in real life.

      Different people get different things out of it. For me it's a way to update all of my friends in one spot. For others it is a competition to get as many friends on their list as possible.

      I've also found it quite useful in discovering new music. I tend to listen to some of the more obscure genres so I can't hear the new stuff on the radio (except for the occasional college station). By looking at who is linked to bands I like, I can check them out, get a sample of their music and then decide if I want to hear more or not.

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    13. Re:in other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Who the hell goes to real.com?

      Two things:
      1. I believe the Real Player loads the real.com page in its "minibrowser", so anyone who uses Real and doesn't shut off the minibrowser goes there regularly.
      2. These ratings are generally gathered from clueless people who have let the survey companies install web bugs on their computer. These are exactly the kind of people who use Real Player.

    14. Re:in other news by icedevil · · Score: 1

      So you've seen my MY space?!$%? OMG What did you think?!

      Seriously, I think the music thing is the worst. Although I don't blame the members of myspace, instead I blame whoever decided that a website should be able to make noise without user intervention in the first place.

      Furthermore why is it that not all major browsers have a way of turning this off? I use Linux for the most part and regardless of OS I normally use Firefox as a browser and the only browser I know of that has an option to turn this off is Opera [1]. Which is a great browser but I try to use OSS as much as possible even if I have to make some sacrifices.

      What makes myspace especially bad is the music often takes a few minutes to load, so if you decide to bite the bullet and take a look at one of your idiot friends profile and are ready to hit the volume as the page is loading you will think there is no custom music until you give up and just then the most god awful sounds start pumping through your speakers.

      [1] Please let me know if I'm wrong about this assumption, I've looked into it briefly and didn't find much.

    15. Re:in other news by Firehed · · Score: 0
      But myspace is 'in' (like fuzzy d20 mirror dice!), even if myname.com grants +3 to epenis. Myspace has an int requirement of 0, personal domains require at least 11. I know several people who could hand-code a decent site in notepad and who have run their own domain that have a myspace account, simply because that's where the social networking is at right now. Maybe it's because I'm a fan of the traditional internet, so to speak - normally I hate tradition in any form, but back even just two years ago, it took at least a moderate level of brainpower to make your voice heard and your presence known.

      Dunno, but I could have 314,159 friends on myspace, but what good would it do me? If I knew 100kpi people, let alone actually spoke with them on a regular basis (as friends do), I'd be a freakin' celebrity. There are only so many people you can have as real friends, and that number usually isn't anywhere near what you get with that four-deep group of mutual friends you get from myspace.

      I was talking about it to a few friends (in person!) and I was the only one in the group without a myspace account. And I was also the only one well-versed in anything digital. I'd like to see anyone with a myspace program write out a css file, or even know what it stands for or what its purpose is. I've got a real blog, and while I used wordpress, if I was hardcore and drowning in free time, I could have written a primitive custom thing, even if it lacked a bit in the ajax department.

      My first foray into web coding wasn't pretty, but it was mine, and honestly not that bad for an eleven-year-old using notepad. A year later, I tought myself C through adminning a MUD and eventually wrote an entire random item code which was in maybe a dozen of the probably thousands at the time (who had also handcoded one). Any moron can sign up for an account and write into a box that does all the work for them. I may use nl2br(htmlspecialchars($text)) to make my life easier, but I think that anyone publishing content should have an understanding of the medium on which it's being published. I don't mean doing a view source and rendering the page in your head, but people not familiar with <br> really shouln't be putting stuff online and thinking highly of themselves, as the myspacers tend to.

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      How are sites slashdotted when nobody reads TFAs?
    16. Re:in other news by ctrl-alt-elite · · Score: 1

      While MySpace is the new GeoCities, userscripts.org has a wide variety of Greasemonkey hacks that lessen the amount of throwing up in your mouth you do when you visit the site.

    17. Re:in other news by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      You fucking dick! (Yes, I know you're female, but still . . .You fucking dick!)

      WHY did I have to click on that link? You hosed safari for almost 5 minutes. I felt like I was on Kottke's legendary Mac (Safari will not work. And everything else has ground to a halt. Even Text Wrangler is straining to keep up as I type this.)

      OK, you're not a dick. You're the famous and awesome Dana, who got OS X running on an LC or an si (I forget exactly). I apologize, I was just blowing off steam. I need more RAM. {sigh}

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    18. Re:in other news by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 1

      So, are people supposed to communicate on your page with your crappy guestbook? Or do you have some sort of login/authentication system for your page? If so, do you really expect people to go out of their way to make a login for your page to post "Hey, what's up man?"

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    19. Re:in other news by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      I've gotten some good gigs (I work in the movie biz), made a few friends, and got laid a few times.

      I just got burnt out on it, though. If it wasn't the annoying "pimped out" pages, it was the buggy MySpace code that was just too frustrating. Also, I started working a lot more (in part due to the aforementioned gigs) and I just didn't have the time to waste. I just stopped logging in and checking people out.

      meh. I don't hate it, and I don't think it's all that bad. I just got bored with it. Maybe I'll check back in one of these days, maybe not.

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      It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
    20. Re:in other news by Valdoran · · Score: 1

      Five minutes? :| Firefox loaded it in 5 seconds... Of course, it's memory usage jumped up to 400 megs.

    21. Re:in other news by Max+Threshold · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Even LiveJournal does a better job of all that than myspace.

    22. Re:in other news by forgotten_my_nick · · Score: 1

      >I, like you, missed the entire point of myspace for a few months.

      I thought the point of it was to keep these sort of people who post there contained within one URL so we don't accidently end up on them.

      Although the dailyshow best summed it up...

      http://www.comedycentral.com/sitewide/media_player /play.jhtml?itemId=59182

    23. Re:in other news by shawb · · Score: 1

      As a social networking site, the only reason that Myspace is popular is... because it is popular. Almost everybody knows a few people on it, and it therefore becomes a way to communicate between those people you know that are on it are already on it.

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      I'll never make that mistake again, reading the experts' opinions. - Feynman
    24. Re:in other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spoken just like someone that hasn't actually ever touched a woman.

    25. Re:in other news by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 1

      Something wrong with your firefox.. mine did it in 42mb.

      There was a bit of disk access but it basically handled it OK.

    26. Re:in other news by 4D6963 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      It's much like hanging out in a trendy nightclub

      Exactly, the site is kind of fucked up, it makes Firefox crash every ten profiles I visit, but damn, what better spot than that is there to make yourself a better substitute of a social life?

      Everybody's there! from your favorite singer to your classmates to the Playboy model/pornstar you jacked off to last night!

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    27. Re:in other news by WCD_Thor · · Score: 1

      Um, why does anyone go to aol.com or real.com or msn.com or yahoo.com or microsoft.com, everyone knows they are useless compared to other sites. And yes, myspace is the worst site in the entire world. It should only be for musicians and comics, not anoying fans.

    28. Re:in other news by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

      Why do I want people to log in and say "Hey, what's up man?". What does that have to do with my site?

      Also, it's not much of an insult to call my guestbook crappy when it doesn't exist.

    29. Re:in other news by darkmonkeh · · Score: 1

      According to Alexa, around 100 million people. However, a traffic rank of 353 does not equate to 9th rank on a survey! FYI, Myspace is ranked 8, for traffic alone.

    30. Re:in other news by MoonBuggy · · Score: 1

      Myspace is the reason that this lives on my bookmark bar.

    31. Re:in other news by samsonov · · Score: 0

      My only hope would be that myspace gets the slashdot effect. I can find better things to do with my time than read spurious notes copulated by teenagers.

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    32. Re:in other news by RalphSleigh · · Score: 1

      Firefox added 200mb memory and pagefile, but loaded that in like a second. One huge grey square.

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    33. Re:in other news by Transmogrify_UK · · Score: 2, Insightful
      but I think that anyone publishing content should have an understanding of the medium on which it's being published. I don't mean doing a view source and rendering the page in your head, but people not familiar with <br> really shouln't be putting stuff online and thinking highly of themselves, as the myspacers tend to.

      I'm glad you're not the man at the top who decides what goes on the internet or otherwise. Because the internet would absolutely suck.

      That is absolutely the best thing about the internet, whether you know about or have any kind of understanding of the medium or not, for free ANYONE can make their voice heard. Whether it's heard by one or a million people, you're still able to say your piece, whatever it might be.

      Yes, there are some horrific sites out there that are completely standards incompliant, that are garish, that cause your browser to crash, that takes an hour to load and has horrific Celine Dion music in the background, but does it REALLY matter?

      Myspace falls into the above category.. it's not a "homepage builder", it's a community site. It's for people who have no interest in what a <br> tag is but still lets them communicate and let their voice be heard.

      So you don't like it, ignore it. It's doing no harm.

    34. Re:in other news by FinnWinter · · Score: 1

      Your Geocities page is still there? It's nice to know someone's is. For me seeing a Geocities link is pretty much synonymous with "broken link - don't bother".

    35. Re:in other news by NamShubCMX · · Score: 1
      I never thought I would actually "defend" myspace... but there I go.

      There's ONE thing about myspace that is awesome and its the "bands" page. So many websites have tried to give exposure to smaller bands, etc (mp3.com, soundclick...) but none have succeeded like myspace did.

      I discovered 100s of small (really small) bands through this system. My own band has also been discovered by 1000s of people. We actually get request from people who wants to see us play in their cities - 1000s of miles away.

      In the 90s (before myspace...) no one outside our city would have ever heard about us.

      But yea, the pages *do* suck. But it seems like the favorite place for younger teenagers on the web... exactly because they can put all that crap content on their own small personal space.

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    36. Re:in other news by RandomPrecision · · Score: 1
      Exactly, the site is kind of fucked up, it makes Firefox crash every ten profiles I visit, but damn, what better spot than that is there to make yourself a better substitute of a social life?
      How about out-fucking-side?
    37. Re:in other news by Mouse42 · · Score: 1

      I never understood why LiveJournal didn't become more popular.

      It seems as though the only place where MySpace beats LiveJournal is the ability for people to find you who know your name. That and the wide variety of networking - schools, location and employment - make it very easy to catch up with people who you had even forgotten.

      People seem to put up with the cludginess that is MySpace just because it's easier to catch up with people you know. LiveJournal, even though being a lot more userfriendly and customizable, lacks that networking.

    38. Re:in other news by kongit · · Score: 0

      woohoo, I downloaded it. what the fuck is wrong with me

    39. Re:in other news by Mouse42 · · Score: 1

      I believe they started deleting any geocities accounts that don't get any hits within a certain time span.

    40. Re:in other news by 0zzy · · Score: 1

      Wow... take every chance you get to dump on Real for problems you had years ago. Get over it. The one thing Real bashers have not figured out how to do is actually beat their codecs in look and sound. Seriously. Side by side (because this is what I do) I'll encode with Real rather than Windows because of encoding and editing software, and the look and feel of the output. Hands down - Real over WSM.

    41. Re:in other news by brunson · · Score: 1

      If I know anyone on MySpace, I'm not aware of it.

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    42. Re:in other news by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      Swear to god, I just got the spinning beach ball for almost 5 minutes, and the rest of the OS was bogged down. It took about 20 seconds to just switch applications.

      Granted, I had quite a few apps running, and quite a few tabs open in Safari. I need more RAM. Paging is a bitch.

      And Dana, if you read this, sorry I went off on you. =) I'm not normally a hater.

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    43. Re:in other news by carninja · · Score: 1

      Welcome to Earth, where popular things are popular and the majority likes things that are popular. "As a social networking site, the only reason myspace is popular is ... because it is popular." Fucking duh! That's the whole point of social networking. If you chose the LEAST popular social networking site, there wouldn probably be a much smaller (if any) percentage of your friends on that site, which pretty much defeats the purpose. I don't get all these guys hating myspace, it not a bad idea, it's made a lot of people a lot of money, and I'm thinking these people are just jealous they didn't think of it first. Now the typical 14-year-old Myspace user, THOSE are the ones you should be mad about. But also keep in mind that stereotypes are just that; not representative of everybody.

    44. Re:in other news by Firehed · · Score: 1
      I do ignore it, but I still have to hear people at school talking about it constantly. Keep it on IMs where it stays private, as they tend to just carry on private conversations in the public eye.

      I totally support things like wikipedia, and I'm glad that the interface makes it very easy to update/fix/add stuff. But I'm also pretty darn confident that the type that would vandalize wiki pages are the type to have those god-awful myspace pages. Someone told me that he vandalized a wiki page once thinking it was funny, and I seriously would have punched him in the face if we weren't in a library. As it was, I was almost kicked out because I was pretty much yelling at him about it. It's dickheads like that which RUIN things for everyone - people thinking that their own idiocy for personal humor is to everyone's taste and doesn't cause problems.

      Point being that public stupidity does tend to cause harm, and ignoring the problems not only doesn't make them goes a way but tends to make them far worse.

      While I was definately a bit harsh, it came out a bit wrong. People talk about their myspace like it's a real web page, not like it's just an ugly and incoherent blog. If you want to publish something for what it is, I've got no problem with that. It's like how blogs are now often cited as fact, when more often than not they're just a minor snipped from a story (if even that) with the author's opinion tacked on. If they want to treat it as a time-delayed chatroom, fine by me. But when it becomes treated as something more than that, it's just irresponsible. Blame my grim outlook on humanity, but consider that the people who honestly think that their friends like decoding their posts made in txt-speak are going to be voting in a few years. That really scares me.

      Remeber those old petition sites where you could actually have something useful that people could 'sign'? I saw a forum post about someone sending a petition to Cadbury to create a giant creme easter egg. Honestly, petitions have a real purpose, and making product suggestions to a company isn't one of them.

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    45. Re:in other news by ryanov · · Score: 1

      It's also a poorly-designed, ugly, and unreliable website. It sends you notifcation e-mails from ever-changing addresses, too, making it almost impossible to whitelist (if you can't whitelist domains).

    46. Re:in other news by ryanov · · Score: 1

      LiveJournal also required an invite for a very long time. No longer, but... it had an established presence as an invite-only site.

    47. Re:in other news by 4D6963 · · Score: 1
      How about out-fucking-side?

      How about out fucking side... wtf you think, I don't live in New York City, I live in a small french village. Outside, it's all about cows and elderly people.

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    48. Re:in other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My space is over the edge.
      It's a post singularity website (atleast, until the next one)
      In this case, we are looking from an ancient web model of discourse, slashdot
      into something that has passed into the future.
      "The future is here now, it's just not evenly distributed yet"
      The inhabitants of myspace are human spimes.

      Spumans, spimen,
      baked in a pie men
      homo spimean
      We will all be subjects and objects of the net, living under it's perpetual gaze.

      The comments here on slashdot are just the incomprehension of peering over the edge of a singularity
      into a place where there are babes.
      Almost tongue in cheek.

    49. Re:in other news by RandomPrecision · · Score: 1

      I haven't been there myself, but does everyone on myspace live in their own small French village?

    50. Re:in other news by totalbasscase · · Score: 1

      This is a painfully simple network externality.

      Think back to when MS Word files couldn't be read on Apple machines. For every other user of Windows out there, the utility of using Windows goes up, just because more people use it (so there's more content to view).

      The MySpace people don't need to make content. We (the users) make it for them. And with each person you know who joins, it gets to be more fun, and you get more utility out of it. I just found a girl from my high school that I haven't talked to in three years. She's good people. It is, first and foremost, a networking site, but I can count on one hand the number of people I know over 30 who have memberships.

      Not to worry, though. Eventually all you old fogies will die out and MySpace (or whatever its eventual successor will be) will take over the world.

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      Fragging my father since 2004
    51. Re:in other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      h.264

      'nuff said.

    52. Re:in other news by Total_Wimp · · Score: 1

      Real at #9 was a surprise to me too. I wonder if others were surprised about Yahoo being #1? Everyone is so in love with Google these days that it's natural to assume it would be number one. It's nice to see an early internet inovator like Yahoo chugging along quietly, just doing it's thing at the top of the list.

      TW

    53. Re:in other news by shawb · · Score: 1

      I know a few people over 30 who have Myspace accounts. Eventually they will convince other people over 30 to get accounts. Hey, there is just about no penalty for simply creating an account. I haven't recieved any spam in my email account due to myspace. It's wierd, as you sit on it more and more people that you used to know start showing up. And then you find that they are already friends with people that you used to hang out with. It's a pretty vicious circle.

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      I'll never make that mistake again, reading the experts' opinions. - Feynman
    54. Re:in other news by bobbutts · · Score: 1

      Any time I visit a Myspace page I use my "Zap" http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/zap.html bookmarklet to quiet the damn thing down

    55. Re:in other news by pipingguy · · Score: 1


      What really freaks me out is real.com at #9. Who the hell goes to real.com?

      Look for realsched.exe (or something similar) in your processes. This often auto-starts upon XP reboot and is probably pinging every few minutes. Perhaps this is considered "huge public acceptance" in the minds of some clueless marketers.

      While Slashdot doesn't do this, I've seen other sites that set page refresh to, like, one per minute. What reason could there be for doing this other than to exaggerate daily page views?

    56. Re:in other news by Max+Threshold · · Score: 1
      LJ has some of those features, but they're available to paid members only.

      As a networking site, I think LJ works pretty well. I've established several meatspace friendships through it, some of them including sex. (Yes, fellow Slashdotters... YOU TOO CAN GET LAID!)

    57. Re:in other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody will ever see this, I'm sure, but I know where Real gets it's traffic: Rhapsody. If you ever go out into The Big Room(tm) and find a smaller room serving tasty alcoholic beverages, you may notice a jukebox along a wall that says "Rhapsody" on it. Peek above it or behind it and you will find a router. These things are going to real.com and downloading music on the fly. The one I saw also had an open port ... who needs WiFi when you can just go CAT-5 straight into the fancy music box?

    58. Re:in other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your comment made it into the New York Times.

  2. Nothing to see here... by SeaFox · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Nothing for you to see here, please move along

    How does a site no one can see make it into the Top 10?

    (first post?)

  3. Woah! by MyLongNickName · · Score: 0, Troll

    And goatse.cx made it to number one. Congratulations Slashdot trolls everywhere!

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  4. Content Trumps Design by RunFatBoy.net · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just goes to show, content and relationships will trump design everytime. MySpace is definite proof.

    Jim http://www.runfatboy.net/ -- Exercise for the rest of us.

    1. Re:Content Trumps Design by moosesocks · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not always. flickr is a good example

      there were dozens of other mildly successful photography communities before flickr came along, many of which covered the social networking aspect of flickr much better.

      flickr simply has the best mix of community and design out there, hence its success among pro photographers and occasional shutterbugs alike.

      facebook is another example. It's basically a well-designed myspace for college kids with proper privacy features. It took hold in a market where dozens of other sites had failed miserably. The design's clean, the site's never been slow to memory (despite exponential growth). Because of this, it is far more prevalent than Myspace among college kids. At my medium-sized state school, I'd estimate that about 90%+ of the student body uses facebook regularly. It's that popular. It's preferred over myspace because it's fast, usable, and not creepy.

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    2. Re:Content Trumps Design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Content? That's not content. MySpace is proof that idiots will always be lured into things by other idiots. And the rest of us already knew that.

    3. Re:Content Trumps Design by saltydogdesign · · Score: 1

      Yeah, 'cause the content on MySpace is so kewl.

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    4. Re:Content Trumps Design by Dis*abstraction · · Score: 2, Insightful
      When I was in college, several years ago, there were thefacebook, MySpace, and Friendster. Here's how it broke down:
      1. Friendster was old-school, lovable, slow. Wrinkled. Crammed with ads. The album of photos you burned the summer before school.

      2. thefacebook: Fratboys, sorority girls, other assorted meatheads. Oh, it had its day, all right, which lasted about a week.

      3. MySpace, the site for "the rest of us." Music and art.

      4. Evites are king, now and always.

      I hope you found this as enlightening as I found it surprisingly boring to write.
    5. Re:Content Trumps Design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes I agree, my space design is hideous, but it is a good networking place for jobs, and I mean computer jobs you knuckle heads... Here is good design for you.



      Vicki McPherson

    6. Re:Content Trumps Design by cide1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'll second this. Myspace may get the most hits overall, but here at Purdue, everyone who does this sort of thing uses Facebook. Facebook is infinitly better than Myspace. The photo album feature makes it easy to share photos, and the privacy of Facebook has much better granularity. Furthermore, you have to belong to one of the Universities (or now some highschools) to use it. I believe this is enforced by email address, at least it used to be. This keeps the 40 year old creeps away.

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    7. Re:Content Trumps Design by ThatFunkyMunki · · Score: 1

      Now facebook is king. It's a pretty sweet design, most of my college friends, and their friends, etc use it. It's a pretty big network, I wouldn't be surprised if 80% of college students used it.

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    8. Re:Content Trumps Design by Dis*abstraction · · Score: 1

      I still get messages from people adding me to facebook once in a while, but honestly the only one I ever sign into anymore is myspace--'cuz that's where the action is.

      As for why MySpace is so popular, it has everything to do with its customizeability. Backgrounds, colors, giant images. Bring on the fancy. Facebook, Friendster... sure, you won't get <BLINK>ed in the face, but they just look so blurgh. I think most of us get enough of that in our day jobs. :-)

      Oh yeah, and the music helps.

    9. Re:Content Trumps Design by -kertrats- · · Score: 1

      Who says 40-year-old creeps don't have .edu email addresses?

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    10. Re:Content Trumps Design by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 1

      "Because of this, it is far more prevalent than Myspace among college kids." Bullshit. The reason it is more prevalent is that it has a system of keeping out thousands of highschool goths: you must have a .edu email address. (Their highschool page is an exception to this, but it is relatively new and isn't directly connected to the rest of the network).

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    11. Re:Content Trumps Design by dfghjk · · Score: 1

      Facebook is specifically for students. Enforcing the policy through email keeps outs non-students though not completely. That may filter out many 40 year old creeps but not the 20 year old ones.

    12. Re:Content Trumps Design by caffeination · · Score: 1

      See also: Slashdot

    13. Re:Content Trumps Design by moosesocks · · Score: 1
      An update on that situation

      Friendster -- Mostly Dead. Don't know of anyone who still uses it

      Facebook -- Most (virtually all) college kids. Not just restricted to the frat boys/meatheads. (Although it did start out in the Ivy League, so I can see how it initially got that reputation....)

      Myspace -- Highschoolers, creeps, and musicians (The free music is probably the only redeeming thing about the site). Kinda scary that I get propositioned for sex on my almost completely blank profile with no picture.

      Evite -- 20-30-something singles looking to socialize. The service most likely to be used by the cast of 'Friends'.

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  5. Why is this relevant? by mi_cuenta · · Score: 2, Funny

    I mean, we all knew MySpace was headed for the top, as we all know Madonna is not really English, even if she now has an English fake accent. So, is this a case of reality being announced before the news get it?

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  6. real.com WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why the hell is real.com so high?

    Why would you want to go there? It's like a hole for sleazy salesmen pawning spyware.

    1. Re:real.com WTF? by Odiumjunkie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Equally, I'd be prepared to bet that msn.com and aol.com have such high rankings based mostly on their use as the default start page for two popular internet browsers, as opposed to explicit user desire to either surf there or use them as a home page based on anything other than lazyness.

    2. Re:real.com WTF? by theJML · · Score: 1

      I agree. What is there to Real.com that warrents that high of a rank? Does anyone actually use Realplayer anymore?? (seriously here.. does anyone?) I know I haven't played an rm in years! Every site I see that has streaming media available has it in windows media or quicktime, real player got pushed aside. I actually kinda forgot about it until this story. Figured it went the way of Kings Quest and After Dark.

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    3. Re:real.com WTF? by IANAAC · · Score: 1
      Does anyone actually use Realplayer anymore?? (seriously here.. does anyone?)

      I do. But that's probably because I don't hold much of a grudge for their past (awful) practices and realize that their current player for Linux is pretty damn good.

    4. Re:real.com WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and while I'm at it... MapQuest?! Do people not know about the infinitely faster and more usable maps.google??

      Morons!

    5. Re:real.com WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True dat!

    6. Re:real.com WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...so in other words, HAX

    7. Re:real.com WTF? by Elminst · · Score: 1

      Hey now!
      That's an insult to King's Quest!!
      *thinks back to days of flipping 5.25" floppies in and out of his apple IIc*

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    8. Re:real.com WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Double true!

  7. I guess... by Cheapy · · Score: 2, Funny

    I guess it's not MySpace anymore, but OurSpace...

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    1. Re:I guess... by Poppler · · Score: 1

      I guess it's not MySpace anymore, but OurSpace...

      No, it's his space.

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    2. Re:I guess... by d474 · · Score: 1

      Spicoli?
      "Mr. Hand, if I'm there AND you're there, wouldn't that make it OurSpace?"

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  8. Real? by dalutong · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Who goes to real.com?

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    1. Re:Real? by Odiumjunkie · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Is it possible that RealPlayer connects to real.com to display it's web portal? I don't use it myself, but I seem to remember RealPlayer displaying the web portal by default.

    2. Re:Real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed...of all the websites out there how is it possible that they make it to the top 1000? I cant remember the last time I was there. There has to be some deception here like their player loading 100 webpages everytime you run it. But even then...who still has realplayer installed?

    3. Re:Real? by Vorondil28 · · Score: 1

      Wait, so the whole point of RealPlayer was just a con to get on the Neilsen top ten?

      Tricksy bastardses...</golem>

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    4. Re:Real? by davidc · · Score: 4, Funny

      No-one intentionally goes to Real.com.

      Only reason Real.com is up there (with a long time per visit) is :-

                        Buffering... Buffering... Buffering...

    5. Re:Real? by westlake · · Score: 1
      Who goes to real.com?

      I would say everyone whose life isn't centered around Slashdot. Rhapsody. Real Arcade. Real Networks does rather well in its chosen markets:

      RealNetworks, Google Shares Rise

    6. Re:Real? by Stevyn · · Score: 1

      It feels like the whole point of real player was just a big con. The endless popups, the shitty performance, the need to integrate it with web pages. Real player was first cool in the mid 90s where streaming audio seemed like a new thing. A few years later, it lost it's cool factor and they tried to keep it alive by tieing it with anything under the sun.

    7. Re:Real? by Gertlex · · Score: 2, Funny

      In anticipation of this exact comment, I typed that exact line (well started to) into 'Find as you type'...

      And seriously, who DOES?

    8. Re:Real? by Lendrick · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sure, Real is at number 9, but most of their traffic is to one specific page:

      http://www.real.com/support/faqs/how_the_hell_do_i _uninstall_this_damn_thing.html

    9. Re:Real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it sucked back then too, you just weren't mature enough to notice.

    10. Re:Real? by tanek · · Score: 1

      Sure, Real is at number 9, but most of their traffic is to one specific page: http://www.real.com/support/faqs/how_the_hell_do_i _uninstall_this_damn_thing.html "Sorry, we can't find the page you were looking for." S.O.L.

    11. Re:Real? by gkhan1 · · Score: 1

      Ohh great, I've been looking for that page. Wait...hey, you tricked me! And I was getting my hopes up.....

    12. Re:Real? by Drakin030 · · Score: 0

      Links Broke =P

    13. Re:Real? by DavidLeblond · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wait... who uses RealPlayer??

    14. Re:Real? by CodeArtisan · · Score: 1

      Wait... who uses RealPlayer??

      I do. In my defence, I only use it to listen to the BBC Radio archive which, unfortunately, can use only RealPlayer (RealPlayer was the only streaming app available when they started this service). On the plus side, the Beeb has an exclusive version of the player which seems to avoid the malware issues.

  9. But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I just took this Nielson Net survey a few days ago (they sent me $15 cash!)
    It is very long, but on some of the pages I noticed that sites like slashdot where not a choice to even select. On the page where myspace was a choice of sites you visit, livejournal was not! I'm not sure how well the "write-in" box at the bottom gets counted, but I really question the integrity of the whole thing.

    1. Re:But by realityfighter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They were probably collecting data for the companies in the list. Nielsen makes its money selling consumer data, not doing unbiased research.

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    2. Re:But by DorkRawk · · Score: 1

      "Why didn't a site with better code and features get the spot?" Spoken like a true geek. The general public doesn't care about good code and things that tacky designs are cool. All people want to do is tell everybody else their favorite movies, bands, quotes, deepest secrets, and post half naked pictures of themselves and have other people comments telling them that they're "soooooo h0t!!!11!!!" MySpace has all the people and people are what make a site like that apealing, not how well the site itself is built.

    3. Re:But by saltydogdesign · · Score: 5, Informative

      Duh. Naked teenagers.

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    4. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I (unfortunately) had an account there for a couple of months. It was buggy and slow. I'd swear the thing was built and maintained by a dozen monkeys dragging their knuckles across the keyboard... Run Away...Run Away....

    5. Re:But by westlake · · Score: 1
      sites like slashdot where not a choice to even select.

      Nielson is interested in sites that draw the kind of numbers OSTG can only dream of.

    6. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's owned by Rupert Murdoch, so it gets plenty of publicity through the media.

    7. Re:But by Ethan+Allison · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The general public doesn't care about good code

      But they care (too much, perhaps) when a site, especially one they like (too much, perhaps) becomes unreliable and slow. Many people seem to actually need to go to Myspace constantly - within 30 minutes of people realizing my school district blocked Myspace, they came running to me asking me to get it to work again.

    8. Re:But by Ethan+Allison · · Score: 1

      He bought it after it was on its explosive growth spurt.

    9. Re:But by caffeination · · Score: 2, Funny

      What?! That's the sort of thing that you put in between and

    10. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please don't feed the scammers.

    11. Re:But by rob_squared · · Score: 1

      To clarify: naked female teenagers.

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  10. Publicity by lecithin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I hadn't even heard of myspace.com until the stories about rent for sex, police stings that came out over the past several months.

    You hear about the bad stuff (and teenage girls) and poof, it gets hits.

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    1. Re:Publicity by Khaed · · Score: 1

      Plus, ALL the damned high school kids seem to flock to it. Think Geocities eight or nine years ago, when there were so many awful Geocities sites by kids with black backgrounds, an awful midi, and bright pink or something text about just stupid, mundane teenager things. (omg teh dramaz)

      Now Myspace is a haven for that. It even lets them put in -- gasp -- a freaking video embedded in the page (which is why, under no circumstances, do I visit myspace). They show their -- omg -- creativity and how DIFFERENT they are (by being exactly alike). Plus, the social networking, and the incentive to get more people on it -- of course it gets hits. It's a teenager magnet.

    2. Re:Publicity by AK__64 · · Score: 1

      This is really true. I'm really not sure what the incentive is for populating the site. I do know people that use the communication features to actually communicate, but frequently it's just nominal communication that is occurring- chatting and whatnot.

    3. Re:Publicity by sgtrock · · Score: 1

      Hey, teenagers need community, too. :)

      Look at it this way: If they're on myspace, they aren't on /. Well, unless they're proto-geeks. ;)

    4. Re:Publicity by Khaed · · Score: 1

      Oh, I didn't want to imply it shouldn't exist. Just that on the few occasions I've gone to the page, it has irritated the hell out of me.

  11. web hits vs. actual web use by Gothmolly · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So Real's crappy phone-home player may send 100000000 pagehits to their site every month, but (I guess) people actually use MySpace, as retarded as it is. This is a meaningless statistic.

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    1. Re:web hits vs. actual web use by starwed · · Score: 1

      It's not clear that these statistics have anything to do with pagehits. Another poster mentioned filling out a survey...

    2. Re:web hits vs. actual web use by wbren · · Score: 1

      So Real's crappy phone-home player may send 100000000 pagehits to their site every month, but (I guess) people actually use MySpace, as retarded as it is. This is a meaningless statistic.

      You are clearly wrong about people actually using MySpace. It has become clear to me that most people, including myself, use MySpace as an MP3 jukebox. Let me explain by telling you about my average MpSpace encounter:

      Based on serious scientific studies, I can safely say the average MySpace profile contains approximately seven or eight songs in the form of small flash plugins. I simply open up 20 or 30 tabs, each eith a different person's profile, and begin playing my favorite songs; it gets me through the work day! All my favorite songs are present, including such classics as "T.I. - What You Know", "T.I. feat. DJ Mikez - What You Know (party remix!!!1)", and "T.I. feat. DJ Bonehead - What You Know (ultra party mega mix yo!!!11111!@#)".

      The best part is when all the songs from each profile start playing at once, since they start when the page loads, not when the user clicks the "Play" button. That (combined with the animated GIFs and IE-only custom layout) MP3 jukebox "feature" has made MySpace the #10 website on the net! Congrats!



      To DJ Mikez & DJ Bonehead (if you exist): I'm sorry to associate you with that crappy song/artist, but I needed some quick names and that's what I came up with. My apologies.

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    3. Re:web hits vs. actual web use by Gothmolly · · Score: 1

      RTFA?!? You must be new here.

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  12. With people like this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    why wouldn't it be!

      Earls myspace page; http://myspace.com/earl_spinkter
     

  13. Real.com by NitsujTPU · · Score: 1, Redundant

    People visit real.com?

  14. Everytime Someone Goes to MySpace.... by ImaNihilist · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...the internet dies just a little bit. The future if the internet grows bleek. Some people spend so much time whoring themselves out on MySpace, that's all they use the internet for. Still, they need that 6Mbps connection because some profiles try to load 200MB of videos, sounds, CSS, cursors, and animated GIFs all at the same time.

    God save the interweb.

    1. Re:Everytime Someone Goes to MySpace.... by ImaNihilist · · Score: 1

      The future OF, not IF. Retard. God dammit.

    2. Re:Everytime Someone Goes to MySpace.... by inkfox · · Score: 1

      Not to mention 'bleak'.

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    3. Re:Everytime Someone Goes to MySpace.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was a funny comment. Don't worry about the grammar nazis.

    4. Re:Everytime Someone Goes to MySpace.... by ImaNihilist · · Score: 4, Funny

      Fuck. I suck at life. *sigh* Only thing to do now is spend all day on MySpace.

    5. Re:Everytime Someone Goes to MySpace.... by robogun · · Score: 1

      Let's not forget Pamela Rogers who is going to get 18 years for putting up a MySpace page.

    6. Re:Everytime Someone Goes to MySpace.... by Drkdstryer · · Score: 2, Funny
      The future if the internet grows bleek.
      I think the present spelling standard of the internet is bleak enough as it is.
    7. Re:Everytime Someone Goes to MySpace.... by JimBobJoe · · Score: 1

      Still, they need that 6Mbps connection...

      It's not the connection that bugs me, it's the fact that all you need is 2 myspace pages open and Mozilla's at 180MB of memory used.

    8. Re:Everytime Someone Goes to MySpace.... by ImaNihilist · · Score: 2, Funny

      I know, I know, I suck. 'Nuff said.

    9. Re:Everytime Someone Goes to MySpace.... by AndyChrist · · Score: 1

      Still, they need that 6Mbps connection because some profiles try to load 200MB of videos, sounds, CSS, cursors, and animated GIFs all at the same time.


      200 MB of LEECHED videos, sounds, and animated GIFs.

    10. Re:Everytime Someone Goes to MySpace.... by ImaNihilist · · Score: 1

      That's what parasites do!

    11. Re:Everytime Someone Goes to MySpace.... by Yusaku+Godai · · Score: 1

      All of which they add to their page via "HTML codes" the meanings of which are completely lost on them.

      I'm on a community related to web standards and all that good stuff, and in spite of trying to be very clear in the faq on what to post about, you wouldn't *believe* the number of lost idiot kids who come wandering in from god only knows where asking for the "codes" to add video to their myspace profile.

      I alway tell them to enter Up Down Up Down Left Right Left Right B A Start to get the infinite lives or whatever it is they're looking for the code for.

  15. How many emo kids does it take to screw in a light by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    None, they'll just sit in the dark and cry.

    1. Re:Ahem by FLEB · · Score: 1

      It's their space. If you don't like it, get your own damn space. It's censorship, yes, but the right to censor on your own property is simply another facet of the right to free speech.

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  16. Now I feel better by LittleLebowskiUrbanA · · Score: 5, Funny

    Losing my faith in /. but it turns out we're all united in our hatred of MySpace.

  17. Biggest productivity-killer around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    MySpace is the worst thing for business productivity since Solitaire. We blocked MySpace a few weeks ago because it accounted for literally 10-15% of our company's outbound web traffic - I'm talking about thousands and thousands of MySpace URIs visited per day, at a company of ~75 people.

    1. Re:Biggest productivity-killer around by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 3, Funny

      One page load of a MySpace page averages around 9GB, so yeah, I could see that.

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    2. Re:Biggest productivity-killer around by rm999 · · Score: 3, Funny

      is it a company full of 8th graders?

    3. Re:Biggest productivity-killer around by scottv67 · · Score: 1

      We blocked MySpace a few weeks ago

      Ditto for my shop. Websense tracks approx 2500 unique web surfers on our network. I could find no business-related reason for someone to access *.myspace.com from our network so it is now blocked by Websense. Cricket (http://cricket.sourceforge.net/) graphs since then show that our Internet pipes are a little less busy during the day.

      Good riddance!

    4. Re:Biggest productivity-killer around by MrNonchalant · · Score: 1

      Count yourself lucky you don't work in a 500+ student high school that gives all their students laptop computers and wireless internet access. I don't have access to traffic statistics (I'm a student/part time IT employee) but between that and p2p traffic I'm not sure which one would win for killing our bandwidth. Don't you worry kiddies, we'll soon be blocking MySpace's IPs at the PIX box. Muhahaha.

    5. Re:Biggest productivity-killer around by HolyCrapSCOsux · · Score: 5, Funny
      We run a keylogger every so often as a for employees that are doing everything OTHER THAN working. Here's a neat snippet. Keep in mind that this person HAS somehow managed to graduate from high school.
      21/11/05 12:46:53 on computer ------- user ----
      in application "C:\PROGRA~1\MOZILL~1\FIREFOX.EXE" and window "Myspace.com - Mozilla Firefox"
      pressed: hey girly it was fun this weekend i had a blast messin with u guys we i hope to see u later okay well ttul niggaheyhey buddy what the hell u cant ever talk to me any more that makes me sad well happy bday and sorry that me and nick didnt go to ur party we had to help him mom with some hings but i cut his hair off i mean like his hair is only like an in. 1/2 long but i like it he looks so different though.. well happy bday again and have fun on thanks giving k well ttul nigga . -------NOT MUCH JUST CHILLIN AT WORK HAVING FUN WELL WHA U BEEN UP TO LATELY U STILL GO TOTA CO BELL ALL THE TIME... WELL TTUL ------WELL IM NOT SHORE WHEN IM DONG IT BUT AS SOON AS POSIBLE WHEN IM OUT OF SCHOOL BUT I WANT TO GO IN TO BISSINES SO I CAN START ON GETING NY OWN SALON AND WELL KNOW HOW TO RUN IT WITH OUT HAVEING PEOPLE JIP ME SO I KNOW WHAT IM DOING BUT ITS WHAT I WANT TO DO THAT WOULD BE HELLA COOL IF WE COLD DO SOME CLASSES TO GETHER THAT WOULD BE SWETTTTT WEL I TALK TO U LATER K IM GETIN OFF ARO...
      Makes you want to cry a little doesn't it?
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    6. Re:Biggest productivity-killer around by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      terminate this idiot. i don't mean fire, i mean kill.

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    7. Re:Biggest productivity-killer around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Back when he was workin' on the rails, my granpappy got blacklisted fer less'an this...

    8. Re:Biggest productivity-killer around by Flame0001 · · Score: 1

      My school uses Websense for blocking questionable websites as well. However, it doesn't keep the students from finding ways around it. At one point, (I don't use MySpace myself, this is what I've heard and seen) using blog.myspace.com worked as a workaround through websense. Then Pixxy was used to proxy around Websense.

      As long as there's proxies, there'll be people getting into MySpace. Then everyone'll get into MySpace. Then a week later Websense will block the proxy page. It's a vicious cycle that'll never end. The smarter ones will find a proxy code and put it on an obscure portion of their own website, and not tell anyone. Those who gloat about their own website will only find it being blocked by Websense.

      Trust me, I've seen it happen before personally. I'm a friend of a gloater. :)

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    9. Re:Biggest productivity-killer around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... And that's some of the better content of MySpace.

    10. Re:Biggest productivity-killer around by RobertLTux · · Score: 1

      I know of one company that has in fact added MySpace.com to the blocked domains list (and if you somehow bypass the block and get caught you will be fired).

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    11. Re:Biggest productivity-killer around by TheNarrator · · Score: 4, Funny

      Your post was great but I see this kind of thing all the time in really badly written emails to customer service. I think Slashdot has spoiled you. Despite all the moaning and groaning the Slashdot audience is fairly well educated and can write tolerably. You haven't had to spend a lot of time with exceptionally stupid and/or very poorly educated people since high school no doubt (if you went to public school), but they're out there and there are lots and lots of them and Myspace caters to them. I'm actually really happy that the great uneducated masses are learning to type, get a thought across at some level or another and do basic internet stuff.

    12. Re:Biggest productivity-killer around by eluusive · · Score: 1

      How about we sue the company for violating the employees reasonable expectation of privacy?

    13. Re:Biggest productivity-killer around by freeweed · · Score: 1

      After seeing the results of a decade of young people growing up with the Internet, and now entering the workforce by the millions, I predict that one of the higher paying jobs in the future will be Proofreader.

      No lie, I met someone the other day who works for the quality control department for a very large corporation. She thinks apostrophes are used for pluralization. Now imagine how rich certain smart lawyers are going to get when they realize a contract full of IM-style chatter isn't worth the paper it's printed on :)

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      Endless arguments over trivial contradictions in books written by ignorant savages to explain thunder in the dark.
    14. Re:Biggest productivity-killer around by happyemoticon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Grammar and punctuation errors offend my sight. I can't look at something that's obviously wrong without wanting to correct it. I think I could end a friendship over somebody typing, "r u going 2 skool 2day?"

      Back when I was in college I carried pens around with me for notetaking. This also enabled me to correct posters on campus, which I turned into kind of a hobbie. God, sometimes I wish I'd packed a red sharpie just for that purpose. The Health Advisor would print up all of these flyers every week ("Don't do uppers and downers at the same time!" "Use a condom, even if it's anal!"), and while I was taking a dump I'd methodically correct them, being sure to add comments on style and mark sentences in need of restructuring. It was insanely fun.

      As for a contract, god, I can't even imagine.

      OK PEEPZ LISTN UP U GOTTA IF U BEEN OF SOND MIND N BODY HAB3UZ CRPUZ IPO FACTO LOL OMG I JUST HIT MY HEAD OK IF YOU DON GIVE ME 4 $$ /WEEK 4 WATRN YO LAWN I GONNA SH1T ON IT ZOMG LOLZ !!!! cn i tuch ur boobz
    15. Re:Biggest productivity-killer around by frizzantik · · Score: 1

      I turned into kind of a hobbie. Do you mean hobby? :D

    16. Re:Biggest productivity-killer around by Slithe · · Score: 1

      The company probably has some clause in the contract or the IT Terms of Use that inform the employee that they could be monitored. Since the network belongs to the company and not to the employee, the company has a 'right' to monitor it. A lot of people have been fired from their jobs because they used the company/school network to download pornography. If the employee does not want to be monitored, they should not use the company network for non-work related activities

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    17. Re:Biggest productivity-killer around by nahdude812 · · Score: 1

      It's well established that you have no reasonable expectation of privacy (in the legal sense) when you're at work, on company hardware, and/or on a company network. I think responsible disclosure should require the company to let you know that you have a chance to be monitored, but so long as you're doing it on their dime, on their stuff, what you do belongs to them.

    18. Re:Biggest productivity-killer around by mmkkbb · · Score: 1

      What does public school have to do with it? A number of my private high schoolmates still type like that.

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    19. Re:Biggest productivity-killer around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Makes you want to cry a little doesn't it?

      Can't, I'm not emo.

    20. Re:Biggest productivity-killer around by happyemoticon · · Score: 1

      Yep. That's the curse of slashdot: whenever you start talking about the sanctity and integrity of the english language and punctuation, you make some kind of a typgraphical mistake.

      Misspelling words is nothing: editing a paper from a highly recognized professor who clearly can't write worth a damn is another. Trust me, there's a whole lot of people out there who rely on their underlings to make them sound good.

    21. Re:Biggest productivity-killer around by scottv67 · · Score: 1

      Using a proxy to access a website that I have blocked with Websense is a violation of the Acceptable Use Policy that each and every employee (at my shop) has signed.

      In an educational environment, you might be able to sneak past Websense for a while and then get a slap on the wrist when you are caught. In the corporate world, if we catch you using a proxy website or some other method (tunneling through SSH, etc) to access a website that is blocked, you will be looking for a new job.

      The other thing I've noticed is that not everyone has the technical skills to locate and use a proxy website. If I had 100 people going to Myspace before I blocked it with Websense, only one or two of those people would know how to find a proxy and use it after I add that site to Websense. So I've greatly reduced the number of employees using "company resources" to access Myspace (even though the block was not 100% effective).

    22. Re:Biggest productivity-killer around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least you have a chance though. Which private school?

    23. Re:Biggest productivity-killer around by Slime-dogg · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Heh. You must have some real self-esteem issues, considering that you're willing to end friendships over spelling errors.

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  18. Which just goes to show... by pjt48108 · · Score: 1

    ...That there is no such thing as bad publicity.

    Thanks you, Whackie Right and TV Newsers, for going all out to drive hits to myspace.com.

    Can you badmouth my blog, now?

    Retards.

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  19. Sorry... by StevenHenderson · · Score: 3, Funny

    but MySpace behaves as though it were coded by fucking retarded monkeys.

    1. Re:Sorry... by velocipenguin · · Score: 1

      What a strange coincidence - it was coded by fucking retarded monkeys!

      (And its users aren't much better.)

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    2. Re:Sorry... by Vorondil28 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      but MySpace behaves as though it were coded by fucking retarded monkeys.

      Flamebait? Yes. True? Most definitely.

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    3. Re:Sorry... by libra-dragon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So true, but that's not their main problem. It appears to me that they change their code constantly thoughout the day. So, it's not so much the retarded monkeys' coding so much as their ability to keep their shitty code out of production. They must do their development on their production servers, because there's always something in the middle of the day that just broke and they're working on a fix. That's not how a top 10 site should operate. They need to get some change control in place --perhaps QA/QC as well.

    4. Re:Sorry... by strider44 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I disagree. I don't see how you could code even something as bad as Myspace just by having sex with any sort of monkey, let alone retarded ones.

      Hey it's holidays, I'm allowed to have fun.

    5. Re:Sorry... by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      I guess it's the same now as it was a year ago, when I was last pretty involved on Myspace. Yeah, they don't seem to have test or development systems. They develop directly on the production boxes. I'd have hoped that they'd have actually gotten their shit together after the big deal with Unca Murdoch.

      I'm pretty glad I've not logged in in so long, with all the hoopla over pedophiles, statutory rape, child molestation, etc., on Myspace. I went out with some chicks that were definitely lying about their age. I like 'em young, but I value my freedom.

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    6. Re:Sorry... by caffeination · · Score: 1
      Heh, I love how this comment is considered so controversial that everyone's scared to moderate it for real. Instead it's been metamoderated all the way to 4, and it feels like a trip back in time!

      Someone with some balls mod him interesting and have done with it!

  20. Myspace is pretty lame...in the same way that... by Ritz_Just_Ritz · · Score: 1, Troll

    Britney Spears is lame...

    And Survivor is lame...

    And all reality TV is lame...

    Christ, it seems that the masses really do have no taste.

    Just because thinking humans think it sucks doesn't mean that the lemmings won't congregate there.

  21. Average time by NIK282000 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Did anyone notice the average time spent for AOL? It was double that of the next longest below it. I belive this is even more proof that AOL users are just plain slow.

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  22. Real.com? by Tweekster · · Score: 1

    But who ACTUALLY purposely goes to real.com.....or did their homepage get changed by their shit software.

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  23. The Children of Myspace by cualexander · · Score: 5, Funny
    There is a video on iFilm that pokes fun of Myspace. Basically its the "Greatest Love" song by Whitney Houston.

    The one that goes, "I believe the children are our future..."

    Then it goes on to show the dumb photos that people post.

    Its funny stuff... http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2713146

    1. Re:The Children of Myspace by cgenman · · Score: 1, Funny

      I'm so putting that in my myspace profile.

    2. Re:The Children of Myspace by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok, that video was intended to make fun of some of the farked up things young people do. Why were pictures of same-sex intamacy included? It is disturbing that the author lumped same-sex love with some bar ho passed out after puking on herself from a night of binge-drinking and wang-gobbling.

      I hope the organizers of the next Republican National Convention don't get ahold of this.

    3. Re:The Children of Myspace by David+Off · · Score: 1

      They look to be having a lot more fun than the average /. reader

    4. Re:The Children of Myspace by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      They look to be having a lot more fun than the average /. reader


      Please.. these kids are amateurs. They just happen to be stupid enough to photograph their so-called "partying", and dumber still to post it.
    5. Re:The Children of Myspace by sco08y · · Score: 1

      I just can't listen to Whitney Houston sing about the children for 4 minutes, even if it is making fun on MySpace.

    6. Re:The Children of Myspace by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems like everyone loves indulging but no one really wants to admit to it it's like, well we hate myspace, it's so trendy, etc. but you slashdotters love all the scantily clad babes and probably have emails and accounts that your wifeys don't know about. it's a new social metaphysical phenomenon that should be made fun of heartily while still having an open mind. i hate seeing ppl close off to anything unless it's something I disagree with.
      ; p

  24. Cheap & Easy to Use ... but is it Classy? by rewinn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    MySpace is an apparently successful implementation of the concept that "anyone can have a useful web site without much work."

    TruGeeks may prefer to buy (actually "rent") a domain name, rent space somewhere, AND maintaine the site using the technology du jour, but for a great many people, myspace does what they need without their having to think too hard about it, or to pay for it.

    The question I still have is whether myspace URLs connote poorly, relative to unique-domain URLs, in the same way that AOL or hotmail addresses connote poorly, compared to unique-domain URLs do. In case this is unclear, let me offer an example. I think most people will agree that zzxyz@aol.com connotes something a little less classy than zzxyz@zzxyz.com. The question is, will myspace have sufficient acceptance that a URL such as http://www.myspace.com/rewinn will be an acceptable substitute for something like http://rewinn.com?

    1. Re:Cheap & Easy to Use ... but is it Classy? by Iron+Condor · · Score: 1
      MySpace is an apparently successful implementation of the concept that "anyone can have a useful web site without much work."

      ...for some evil-parallel-universe kind of definition of the word "useful".

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    2. Re:Cheap & Easy to Use ... but is it Classy? by ThisNukes4u · · Score: 3, Funny

      no.

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    3. Re:Cheap & Easy to Use ... but is it Classy? by saltydogdesign · · Score: 1

      I think you are misusing the word "useful." Anyone can trade ass for hits without much work -- that's what you meant.

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    4. Re:Cheap & Easy to Use ... but is it Classy? by littledagger · · Score: 1
      TruGeeks may prefer to buy (actually "rent") a domain name, rent space somewhere, AND maintaine the site using the technology du jour, but for a great many people, myspace does what they need without their having to think too hard about it, or to pay for it.
      the real sad part about this is that everyone's personal space on the internet is now becoming dictated by myspace (which we of course all know is now owned by News Corp). Individual personal websites seem to be quickly becoming a thing of the past. I find this to be really disturbing and a sign of a dark future for the internet. There is really not much freedom for expression, creativity, or individuality available to myspace users. Just another face in the myspace matrix. Not to mention the fact that in reality it is a giant deceptive tool for target market research and viral advertising. myspace also has the affect on users having no need to possess any knowledge of html, or even basic understanding of how a webpage works. keeping users ignorant and pushing them further into corporate dependence. "oh dont bother with all that, it's much too complicated for you, let us take care of it for you." convenience sometimes has a heavy price. in case anyone hasn't seen this. here is some info on how to change up your myspace profile. http://www.thebignoob.com/Blog/355/myspace-profile -hack
    5. Re:Cheap & Easy to Use ... but is it Classy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Myspace is not useful. It's just more proof that most people shouldn't have their own website and that perhaps this elitist nature of the computer-literate is warrant. Because when you give the "average" person a web site, Myspace is what they do with it. The only thing "useful" that Myspace does is provide an easy bunch of victims for the predators.

    6. Re:Cheap & Easy to Use ... but is it Classy? by Jeremi · · Score: 2, Funny
      MySpace is an apparently successful implementation of the concept that "anyone can have a useful web site without much work."


      Not to mention a prime example of "be careful what you wish for, because you might get it."


      Thanks for nothing, Mr. Berners-Lee. :^P

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    7. Re:Cheap & Easy to Use ... but is it Classy? by lxw56 · · Score: 1

      It is a standard in a lot of social circles (jr. high and high school, primarily), and in music marketed to young people, especially indie music. Otherwise, as parent said, it's definitely not any kind of a standard.

  25. hmm by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wonder what www.slashdot.org is? It has to be up there in the top 30 at least.

    1. Re:hmm by Vorondil28 · · Score: 1

      Hmm, I can't find a full list (or a list longer than the top ten mentioned in the post) of Nielsen's rankings. Last I heard, slashdot got about a 250,000 uniques a day . So yeah, top 30-ish sounds reasonable.

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  26. What about time-spent using a service? by philipkd · · Score: 1

    What about time-spent using a service?

    In that case, how would World of Warcraft play into the rankings. Running one raid requires more time than I spend on myspace in three months. I just pop into myspace, check comments, post a few comments, and check-out.

    And people are paying to play WoW. There are those that would pay to use myspace, but if they ever proposed that, the next free service would take off. I'm also concerned about click-through rates on myspace. From what I see on myspace, all that exists are "FREE SMILEYS"-type ads. Whenever I see those ads, I quickly suppose that their demographic isn't profitable.

    Artists pay to get promoted on myspace, that's for sure though, but I think that's just part of the fad. Artists can setup myspace profiles, and just link to and promote them through other channels.

    1. Re:What about time-spent using a service? by imthesponge · · Score: 1

      A lot of those ads are the type that tell you to send an SMS to them from your phone so that they can charge you $20 a month. Click on one sometime; it's a bunch of nonsense.

  27. Search Speed by Metabolife · · Score: 0

    Looking at time spent for the top searches we can draw some nice obviously correct conclusions. Time spent: Yahoo! 105,027 3:28:39 MSN 95,124 1:52:10 Google 93,244 1:00:56 The only logical conclusion is that it takes someone 1hr to find relevent data using google, almost 2hrs on MSN and 3.5hrs using Yahoo. I'm taking the liberty to disregard any other services these sites offer which may take up time in the name of the scientific method.

    1. Re:Search Speed by centuren · · Score: 1

      The only problem is that no one uses Yahoo to search. They must be checking their email or playing online games...

    2. Re:Search Speed by mercuryswitch · · Score: 1

      Actually, I think Yahoo! Finance is THE most popular finance site around. Most of the people I know who check their stock quotes regularly use Yahoo! Finance.

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    3. Re:Search Speed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the sport box scores are updated here more quickly than any other sport site.

  28. People visit Real.com? by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Seriously.... people actually visit Real.com? Is this for real (no pun intended)?
    I visit that site about 2, maybe 3, times a year - TOPS. How the hell are they a top 10 site?

    It seems like everything I run into these days is WMV, QT, or FLV.

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    1. Re:People visit Real.com? by debiansid · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing most of these statistics are collected from participating sites; i.e. sites that have volunteered to give their visitor logs. I'm not sure if this is foolproof as:

      * Yahoo Messenger opens a web page in a "start window" (forgot what it's called) after every messenger login

      * RealPlayer opens its home page in a window below the player everytime the player is loaded

      * MSN is the default home page on IE for most people. Many don't bother to change that. They are content to just start the browser, stop the page from loading and type in the url (or search for it in the address bar dropdown).

      And where's the pron sites? Pretty sure they should be somewhere near the top ;-)

  29. Well, duh! by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Funny

    Anywhere you can pick up lose women is bound to be popular.

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    1. Re:Well, duh! by identity0 · · Score: 1

      pick up lose women

      I can't tell if you meant to type 'loose' or 'loser'. Either one works for Myspace, I suppose...

    2. Re:Well, duh! by caffeination · · Score: 1

      You misspelled 'jailbait'.

    3. Re:Well, duh! by AltekMedia · · Score: 1

      myspace is teh suck, it froze my compyter

  30. Slashvertisement... or Diggvertisement o_O by ciroknight · · Score: 1

    Just wait until it hits digg.

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  31. top quality crap. by marcushnk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Bloody impressive setup..
    I decided to go have a look and see what myspace is all about, jumped on the "tour" and then found that the second page in was broken:
    http://www.modmeup.net/wp-content/myspace-brkn.png

    Quality setup guys... :-P

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    1. Re:top quality crap. by caffeination · · Score: 0, Flamebait
      Aaaaaargh! UBUNTU?! You could have put a warning somewhere! Now I have to go wash poo out of my eyes!

      No, the real reason I'm replying is that you failed to practice good paranoia. I now know an article you've read on wikipedia, something you searched for on Google, some sites you like to visit, what programs you use most often, and even the air temperature at the time you took the screenshot.

      Not that I'm much better.

  32. According to Alexa... by mercuryswitch · · Score: 1

    According to Alexa, MySpace has been in the top 10 for a while now.. http://www.alexa.com/site/ds/top_500

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  33. Do NOT CLICK PARENT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    contains kiddie porn and viruses!!!!!!

    1. Re:Do NOT CLICK PARENT by RLiegh · · Score: 1

      > contains kiddie porn and viruses!!!!!!
      Which myspace replaced with jailbait camwhores and 80meg embedded mp3s?

      Sounds to me like the grandparent post was dead on.

  34. As noted by the "Daily Show" by anchorman Demitri by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The down side is that there are sexual predators on the site. The up side is that there's sexual prey.

  35. But by Ethan+Allison · · Score: 1

    Why is Myspace so big? Why didn't a site with better code and features get the spot?

  36. RealPlayer highly popular in Asia. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have seen a lot of comments here regarding why Real.com is ranked so highly. It likely is because their player does access content from their site regularly.

    Most North Americans and Europeans fail to understand how vastly popular RealPlayer is in Asia. There have been some reports of over 75% of Indian computer users using RealPlayer, since it has very good support for languages such as Urdu, Tamil, Bengali, and Hindi. It also has superb support for Japanese, Mandarin, Cantonese, Korean, and other Asian languages, thus leading to a high degree of usage there (although not as much as in India).

    1. Re:RealPlayer highly popular in Asia. by westlake · · Score: 0, Redundant
      North Americans and Europeans fail to understand how vastly popular RealPlayer is in Asia. There have been some reports of over 75% of Indian computer users using RealPlayer, since it has very good support for languages such as Urdu, Tamil, Bengali, and Hindi. It also has superb support for Japanese, Mandarin, Cantonese, Korean, and other Asian languages

      an unexpected, and interesting response.

    2. Re:RealPlayer highly popular in Asia. by the_masked_mallard · · Score: 1
      can u please back that observation up by figures ? most of the population in India doesnt even possess a PC, a very small no. of PC owners have an Internet connection.

      This minority of PC owners with net connections are mostly city dwellers with knowledge of English and wouldnt need Realplayer of all software in their vernacular language. Ppl use the English version of Windows/Office all the time and its no big deal.

      I cant imagine ppl installing Realplayer for linguistic reasons!

    3. Re:RealPlayer highly popular in Asia. by DRM_is_Stupid · · Score: 1

      Even if they are popular in India (they're certainly not in S Korea and Japan), the popularity of a player still doesn't explain the popularity of the website, unless -- and as stated elsewhere in other comments -- RealPlayer has something built-in that causes it to contact real.com each time a computer boots, etc.

      I wonder which has been more of a shock for people - MySpace.com or Real.com making top 10.

    4. Re:RealPlayer highly popular in Asia. by NuclearDog · · Score: 1
      Grandparent says:
      "There have been some reports of over 75% of Indian computer users using RealPlayer,"
      Parent says:
      "most of the population in India doesnt even possess a PC,"

      Need I elaborate?

      "This minority of PC owners with net connections are mostly city dwellers with knowledge of English and wouldnt need Realplayer of all software in their vernacular language."

      Let's break this down...

      • "mostly city dwellers"
        What does that have to do with it?

      • "wouldnt need Realplayer of all software"
        First off, I don't think the Asian countries have as many negative connotations attached to RealPlayer, as they haven't been on the internet quite as long (although I may just be ignorant in this regard).

      • "with knowledge of English"

        Knowing English is irrelevent. I know a good chunk of Spanish speaking immigrants here that could easily have gotten their TV service in English, but instead chose Spanish. I can only venture guesses why, but I imagine it requires a lot less brain power to understand, allowing them to think more about what is being said rather than the words being used to say it. (Computer Analogy: It's like running code native to your processor versus code from another processor that you must emulate.)



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  37. Re:How many emo kids does it take to screw in a li by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You forgot to ROT13 the punchline...

  38. According to Alexa.. by Sir+Pallas · · Score: 2, Insightful

    MySpace has been in the top ten since January.

  39. What would make a better myspace? by bloodstar · · Score: 1, Interesting
    I ask, because I've been working on creating a new social networking site that's geared more towards the academic side. There's still a lot of work to do on the site, but I'm curious what features people would want from a more academic standpoint? (Maybe this would be a good Ask Slashdot)?

    http://www.apbctr.com/ Please understand that it's still a massive work in progress, and effectively one person doing the coding and another person doing the economics (I hope the webserver can handle it).

    I'll be curious what people suggest...

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    1. Re:What would make a better myspace? by lonasindi · · Score: 1

      facebook? it's already got excellent features and is entirely geared towards the academic side. it only allows people with a valid college email to join, it links people through classes and has a slick interface.

    2. Re:What would make a better myspace? by circa1979 · · Score: 1

      First off; very nice site. I see a lot of promise in it.

      The domain name, however, is just a tad too cryptic. I see why you picked it once the website loads up but that isn't going to help people remember it two months from now when 'apb' means nothing to them. A small point but something you could think about.

      I also have to object to the fonts used. Poking around your CSS file I noticed that third on your list is Comic Sans which on my GNU/Linux box is the first one it makes a match on. So I see your very professional website in a font that should never be viewed by anyone over the age of 9. I do give you credit for using two other fonts before it but still.. some people will render it in a sub-optimal font. My only other suggestion would be some small formatting changes on the Sign up page. The way you have the three links below the User/Pass boxes is just haphazard at best.

      Other than those -- not half bad. I hope your project grows into something respectable, so the best of luck to you!

    3. Re:What would make a better myspace? by Bemmu · · Score: 1

      Didn't allow me to use my name "Bemmu" as my username (6 char minimum). Forced me to choose a state, even though I'm not in the US.

    4. Re:What would make a better myspace? by bloodstar · · Score: 1

      2 very valid points. Is 6 too many characters to ask... Have to check but I don't see a reason why it couldn't be dropped to 5, (I wouldn't want to go lower than 5). And at the moment it is geared towards the United States. Out of curiosity, do you know of any compiled lists of schools by country/Region? I'd be more than happy to add them in.

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    5. Re:What would make a better myspace? by bloodstar · · Score: 1

      a couple of good points to chew on. we really want to find something short and descriptive, but it's hard to find something that is catchy enough. *ponders* Good point about the fonts, Comic Sans was put in more as a whim. And the pages are constantly in flux as we are trying to find ways to render things in a more effective layout. But thank you for your thoughts.

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    6. Re:What would make a better myspace? by bzipitidoo · · Score: 1

      I dunno about MySpace. I've never looked at it. As for your site, make it possible to see content without having to create a user account.

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  40. $30 a year??? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 2, Interesting
    You'd think that since you can get a domain plus enough hosting to do a mypsace page without the noob for about $30 a year...

    You're paying WAY too much.

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    1. Re:$30 a year??? by Firehed · · Score: 1

      I have a real host for a real website, not a myspace-quality load of crap (and consequently pay more than $30 per hear). My point was it's more than cheap enough to have a real site instead of one of these silly community-based things where your friends list includes that friend of a friend of a friend of a friend who turns out to be located in some basement of an internet cafe in Bangledesh.

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    2. Re:$30 a year??? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

      Yeh, I mis-read it as $30 a month...

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    3. Re:$30 a year??? by hendridm · · Score: 1

      I guess it depends if you want service and a modicum of uptime. Yeah, I've found okay hosting for as low as $20/year, however, I wouldn't host my company's web site on it. I currently pay $12.95/month for web hosting, and you'd be hard-pressed to convince me to switch to something else. I've used LOTS of web hosts, from free web hosts to mid-range paid to dedicated servers. It all depends on your needs. I wouldn't use a dedicated BSD server to host a MySpace-type site any more than I would use a Geocities account to host a business.

    4. Re:$30 a year??? by caffeination · · Score: 1

      And still got modded up! HA!

    5. Re:$30 a year??? by Mouse42 · · Score: 1

      How much you pay all depends upon how often you need that website to be up. If it's visited only 5 times a week, chances are, you aren't noticing that it's down much much much more than the 99% downtime they claim!

      I work A LOT on my server, and if I didn't notice when it went down, then a client did. I jumped from company to company to company trying to find someone who could actually give me reliable service. But it always came down to the same story - another website on the shared server did something against TOS and broke service for everyone on the server.

      I finally decided to quit the shared hosting game and get a virtual private server so some other customer can't steal my resources. So far, so good!

  41. myspace eats jerky and blows somebody ( please rea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ok so I have a my space site and why ? It runs on M$ ( omg no ! ). And it looks like no one from my my age group is on there when I do a search on there. And it looks like someone is always reading my posts but no one says anything. Really is this site safe to put personal info on and what is a GOOD "free" software equivilant so that I do not support non-free software ?

  42. Internet censorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Myspace.com is being used as a tool to leverage censorship onto the internet.

    1. Re:Internet censorship by RLiegh · · Score: 1

      And it's working! GJ human race!

  43. What content? What relationships? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OMGZ I have a MySpace account and am ruining the community of musicians it was intended to create. I'm 16f LOLZ! I have 10,000 friends, none of whom I've ever met and most of whom are 40 year old Slashdot geeks trying to convince me to meet up so they can sexually molest me!

    LOLLERSKATEZ!!

    (some content and relationships THAT is...)

  44. Microsoft Should Be Stricken by PastAustin · · Score: 0

    I think that Microsoft should be Stricken because the 50 minutes spent on their site was trying to find a TID or get to a page that has some relevance to what your search terms were.

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  45. not your space by samnice · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm just a little suprised at the comments about MySpace. Clearly i am in a minority of /. readers who actually enjoys and uses MySpace. Granted, i only began using it a few weeks ago, but i have actually had fun using html and then teaching it to my friends so they can improve their pages. but most importantly, i have reconnected with a lot of old friends who now live in other cities. No other social networking website i have used before has been able to do that for me. The real item of interest i thought was the "average usage time" stat. MySpace users average over 2 hours/session. Thats on par with ebay and Yahoo. and twice that of Google. thats a lot of ads. ads = $ = power whether the techno-istas poo-poo it or not.

    1. Re:not your space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You're still in the honeymoon phase and honestly, if those past friends actually meant something to you, you would have found them someway. The internet makes sincerity seem easy.

    2. Re:not your space by doubtless · · Score: 1

      slashdot users probably average 8hr/session on weekdays. No ad money though, everyone here uses ff with Adblock.

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    3. Re:not your space by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      I was really into it for a while up until about a year ago, but then got burnt out and didn't have as much time, so I haven't even logged since that time.

      It was great fun, though, and it was very useful for IRL networking. I made some good friends, dated some chicks, and even got some choice gigs (I work in the movie biz).

      A lot of things sucked, though. Many many "pimped" user pages, but especially just the MySpace software itself was incredibly crappy. I'm afraid to go back because I'm afraid it will have just gotten worse, since it's gotten even more popular.

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    4. Re:not your space by thelost · · Score: 1

      bingo, you're right. I also enjoy using myspace. It's allowed me to reconnect with a lot of people I had lost touch with. Now that I have I spend very little time on it except for communicating with people I already know. It's just cool to hate myspace these days.

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  46. Well... by niteice · · Score: 1

    I fall into the general age demographic of MySpace (15 years old). If you ignore the sexual predators, fucked-beyond-belief CSS (that crashes everything but IE), and general rampant idiocy, it's not such a bad place to keep in touch with your friends! :^)


    </sarcasm>


    Maybe I'm just lucky, but I've never come across the most unspeakable of horrors that the media/Slashdotters seem fond of pointing about the site.




    Yeah, I'm just lucky.

    (yes, i have a profile, so at least i know what i'm talking about)

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  47. Illegal? by twistedcain · · Score: 1

    Is there any particular reason why myspace users are allowed to stream mp3 songs that I can only assume they don't have the copyright to? That and the sheer amount of hotlinking that happens there.

  48. Microsoft #2 ?!?! by Namlak · · Score: 5, Funny

    The question is - Is Microsoft #2 becasue of THIS page or despite it?

    1. Re:Microsoft #2 ?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't get it. I've had better experienes with Microsoft Update than APT.

  49. Uhm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MySpace was ranked #4 on alexa.com last time I checked, a week or two ago..

  50. You're an order of magnitude off by shreevatsa · · Score: 4, Informative

    Unbelievably, according to Alexa, Slashdot is only the 301st on the Global top 500. It's not in the top 100 Us sites, nor in the top 100 English sites.

    1. Re:You're an order of magnitude off by Cirvam · · Score: 4, Informative

      yeah but that only counts traffic from people with the alexa toolbar installed, which I would assume very few people here have. Due to it being (or used to be?) spyware.

    2. Re:You're an order of magnitude off by shreevatsa · · Score: 1

      Thanks, that explains everything! Now I know why so many crappy sites are unexpectedly high; they are just the kind of sites people with spyware on their computer might visit.... Is there somewhere else that lists the top sites?

    3. Re:You're an order of magnitude off by Darkman,+Walkin+Dude · · Score: 1

      You know that just underlines the level of bullshit surrounding the web economy. Not that I'm particulariy defending slashdot here, but Nielsen will probably only track surveys for companies they got paid by, and Alexa represents people with spyware on their computers (an ever decreasing and very skewed metric). I wonder could someone set up a script that anyone with a DNS could install, to record hits for a site, or maybe higher level DNS only. Nyeh that would only be corrupted in any case. I'm not sure is there any real way to compare hits for sites in a realistic fashion...

    4. Re:You're an order of magnitude off by caffeination · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Which explains this:

      People there are so obsessed with beating Slashdot that many actually installed Alexa specifically so that it could track their visits to Digg.

      More such results continue on the second search page. Only on page 4 do they start to lose relevance (an interesting correlation with the study that was featured yesterday, n'est ce pas?)

    5. Re:You're an order of magnitude off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the goal is inflation of a number by any means neccessary, which seems to be the case for every aspect of digg, then like most websites the content/community will be rather poor quality. I only went to digg for a week or two and hated it. If you think Slashdot has trolls and fakers, you ain't seen nothing yet. Imagine everybody on Slashdot as having basically infinite mod points - it simply wouldn't (and doesn't) work. You can watch posts fluctuate from -10 to +10 and back again in a matter of minutes. People just run through the posts and smack -1 on all the posts just because they can. Reading some of digg's posts is just plain sad, and the voting scheme is completely crazy if you look over what "stories" made it to the top (such as those listed in parent). Also, it seems the people on digg like it better than Slashdot for superficial reasons ("it's prettier", "aesthetics goes a long way", "slashdot is 'old' and digg is 'more innovative'"). I won't say Slashdot is great, and all I do is troll the boards as an AC heh, but trying out digg makes Slashdot look like CNN.

    6. Re:You're an order of magnitude off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's sad on so many levels.

      Digg: jealous enough?

    7. Re:You're an order of magnitude off by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1

      digg prettier than Slashdot? Slashdot may not be the prettiest site on the web, but digg is more oculosanguinimittificient(causing eyes to bleed) than the pink "OMG PONIES" theme /. used(which was funny at first, but then my eyes started to bleed)

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  51. Re:How many emo kids does it take to screw in a li by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    None. Emo kids don't understand screwing.

  52. Contrarian Opinion : Myspace rocks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I think everybody here on Slashdot that slams Myspace is full of shit. First of all, Myspace is awesome for amateur musicians, who for the most part dominate Myspace. Contrary to the popular Slashdot stereotype of Myspacers, a typical Myspace user is not some teenie bopper teenage girl playing bait the pedophile (a popular sport for sure, and yes there are those, but its just a stereotype, and these are not in the majority by any shot).

    Bands dominate myspace. Bands networking with other bands and with people who want to listen to new fresh music. For the most part there are thousands and thousands and thousands of homebrew bands who would never get any kind of exposure at all now able to easily get their music out to the masses so they can listen to something other than censored formulated dribble on the radio.

    Myspace is the biggest free for all music extravaganza there ever was, and its a hotbed of creativity... not only music, but graphics, and yes bizarre weird profiles. Myspace makes something like Itunes look like total crap, it even blows past the P2P networks (Limewire, etc) for distributing music around the globe. People don't want to download music, they want to stream it, and move on.

    I never made music before in my life, but one day I tried it. And bam, what I did, surprised me. Where did that come from? So I made a little more. Next thing I know, two hundred people every day listen to my music around the globe. They do it for free, and I distribute it for free. Two hundred people a day listening to something you made... just rocks. And I'm just a small fish in a big, big pond.

    I'll tell you what is bullshit. The slashdot formula. Its so obvious after a while its a joke. Post topics on the main page that are blatantly wrong and inflamatory, simply to have many people sweep down on it and argue this and that and the other like a bunch of female cackling hens. Its not productive, its not interesting, its rather dumb. Its based on nothing more than chosing articles to post that get peoples gander up to attract more page views and more arguing back and forth and as so many people have stated before, the information is always stupid or wrong or not even interesting from a geek standpoint.

    If you want to break the RIAA's back, support Myspace. Or shut up and add music and video uploads to Slashdot. How long has it been since the slashcode has had any major, major features from a user standpoint implmented? Slashdot to me looks like the same Slashdot from 5 years ago...

    And on the internet, you stand still, and your traffic dies...

    You wouldn't be screaming to high heaven at Myspace if they weren't running circles around you and burning you to dust. Real winners don't whine. They see what's going on on the battlefield, and they respond appropriatly with a counter action. Whining is a sign of envy and a display of ones own inability to adapt and keep pace.

    Einstein
    50 caliber Fist FK
    http://rootpassword.com/

    1. Re:Contrarian Opinion : Myspace rocks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wish I had mod points....

    2. Re:Contrarian Opinion : Myspace rocks! by cgenman · · Score: 1

      How long has it been since the slashcode has had any major, major features from a user standpoint implmented?

      Today :)

    3. Re:Contrarian Opinion : Myspace rocks! by headbulb · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Are you seriously that dilustional?

      You Say that mostly bands use myspace. Yes some do But not all nor is it most the profiles. Most profiles are of teens or people who can't seem to spell the simple word "you". Yes it's simple three letters.

      I know you're flamebait, But I am responding to you anyways. For some reason a moderator mod you up.

      mp3.com before they got bought out was ten times better then myspace would ever be for bands.

      Then you go on to say that slashdots users are jealous of myspace users. You do know that the reason people come to slashdot isn't so much for the articles as it is for the article sized comments. A community of Intellectuals that is grouped around technology. Myspace is a pop culture group.
      The arguing on /. is for refining a persons ideas. Without the opposition you'd never find holes in your idea's.

      What use would adding video uploads to slashdot be? The video craze is a fad right now. (when I say fad I mean in it's current form) Sites such as youtube are working off of VC. Hence they arn't profitable. It just means some guys where able to convince some other people to give them money to setup a site, I can't see their site making money to pay the bills in the long run unless they change their bussiness plan. I could see them trying a sell this bussiness to someone else type of thing. They do have one thing that has value, a community. Which is why fox corp bought myspace. It's their demographic, a not very inteligent one. (Almost free research.)

      Break the RIAA's back? What? Myspace isn't that strong when it comes to music. Most the bands on myspace are local bands trying to expand, they don't because they don't have a large appeal. (aka they suck!!!) People don't like to admit it but the riaa has some good bands along with the bad.

      I know I probably made mistakes, but whatever I don't care.

      One last thing. If you don't like slashdot so much. Just leave.

    4. Re:Contrarian Opinion : Myspace rocks! by damiam · · Score: 1
      You Say that mostly bands use myspace. Yes some do But not all nor is it most the profiles. Most profiles are of teens or people who can't seem to spell the simple word "you". Yes it's simple three letters.

      Myspace is a huge site, with millions of profiles. It's possible to use it to connect with cool new bands and intelligent, thoughtful people. It's also possible (and a lot easier) to find profiles of random idiots who can't write and treat the site as a popularity contest. There are a lot of empty-headed dumbasses on MySpace, but that doesn't mean the site can't be useful - just avoid contact with those people.

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    5. Re:Contrarian Opinion : Myspace rocks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will never use that feature nor will it have any major impact on the usefulness (or lack thereof) of Slashdot...

      Browsers can already bookmark pages (and do it a lot better), there is absolutly nothing new about that.

      I'm not impressed by someone reinventing the wheel (bookmarking) after its been around for 5000 years (or 15 years, which is 5000 years in internet time).

    6. Re:Contrarian Opinion : Myspace rocks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Myspace has appealed to me in a way that it hasn't in years, obviously Myspace has recently grabbed the attention of all kinds of internet users ranging from the geeks to the outright obnoxious. I'm sure there are a good bit of people on slashdot that you would called an idiot or stupid or what the hell ever. I'm just saying if you open up to the new idea rather then bash it from the outside(totally missing everything that goes on in the juicy center core) then you may miss out on something that you might want to be a part of, unless you are afriad of course afriad of what all the slashdot mafia has to say about the "teeny bobbers" and "pedophiles" that stalk myspace. Grow up those people infest every kind of medium and to single them out in one place is just ignorant.

    7. Re:Contrarian Opinion : Myspace rocks! by esmrg · · Score: 1
      You wouldn't be screaming to high heaven at Myspace if they weren't running circles around you and burning you to dust. Real winners don't whine. They see what's going on on the battlefield, and they respond appropriatly with a counter action. Whining is a sign of envy and a display of ones own inability to adapt and keep pace.
      The last thing slashdot needs is more comments.
    8. Re:Contrarian Opinion : Myspace rocks! by mlylecarlin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Bands dominate myspace."

      Bands dominate YOUR myspace. Log out and try visiting as an anonymous user. From there it's pretty obvious: idiots dominate myspace.

    9. Re:Contrarian Opinion : Myspace rocks! by caffeination · · Score: 1
      The discussion and arguing here are the point of Slashdot. Clearly you've been flamed at some point, or something like that, and you couldn't take the pain it dealt to your ego. Most people here though are grown up enough to work past that and grow from it, instead of becoming bitter and bitching about it. Through the intense discussion here, we all grow. What credentials do you have to criticise the Slashdot formula anyway? Is the fact that you don't like it enough for you to just deem it "bullshit"?

      Burning us to dust? You honestly think MySpace is taking away visitors from Slashdot? Real winners stay true to themselves, their demographic, and their strategy despite whatever bandwagon their counterparts are jumping on. This is what Slashdot has done, successfully, for years. Now that bookmarks and tags are popular, established parts of the web, Slashdot is implementing them. This is a much better way to decide what do than "keeping pace" and "watching your opponents on the battlefield", which are sure signs of a company going for a quick buck.

      Which brings us to MySpace. Here at Slashdot, there is no kiddie porn. There is next to no spam (a little IT recruitment spam by email here and there). The interface is consistent. Comment posters don't get to foist their musical tastes on me as I read their comments. Myspace, on the other hand, has all these problems. And worse still, in a few years time the cash cow will be dying off, Fox will abandon MySpace, and it'll degenerate into pure spam like most dying sites do. And Slashdot, still alive and well in largely the same form as before, will do a story about it. I will post a link to your comment, it'll be +5 Funny, and we'll all have a nice long laugh at your expense.

    10. Re:Contrarian Opinion : Myspace rocks! by gavint · · Score: 1

      I can't claim credit for this, but I feel it's worth repeating: Myspace is like Google, where Google's mission is to "Organize all the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful", Myspace Organize all the world's idiots and make them universally accessible.

    11. Re:Contrarian Opinion : Myspace rocks! by jaaronc · · Score: 1

      It's...possible...to find...random idiots who can't write and treat the site as a popularity contest. There are a lot of empty-headed dumbasses on MySpace, but that doesn't mean the site can't be useful - just avoid contact with those people.

      Sounds exactly like /. to me!!

    12. Re:Contrarian Opinion : Myspace rocks! by Frozen+Void · · Score: 1

      Video/Audio streaming?
      Are you crazy? Its million man click of death.Called Slashdot Effect.
      I suggest torrents instead,which could be added to article,even now.
      Slashdot could start a tracker for torrents that get posted or use one of public ones.

      Topics,some get post for attention.But there
      are topics that need justified attention and discussion.
      And finally we don't need millions of imbeciles that populate MySpace and Aol chats.

    13. Re:Contrarian Opinion : Myspace rocks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      If you want to break the RIAA's back, support Myspace. Or shut up and add music and video uploads to Slashdot. How long has it been since the slashcode has had any major, major features from a user standpoint implmented? Slashdot to me looks like the same Slashdot from 5 years ago...

      And on the internet, you stand still, and your traffic dies...


      Wow, you're a pissed off little bugger now aren't you? Why this comparison of Slashdot to MySpace? Defensive are we?

      I'm sure Slashdot is hurting for traffic.

      You wouldn't be screaming to high heaven at Myspace if they weren't running circles around you and burning you to dust. Real winners don't whine. They see what's going on on the battlefield, and they respond appropriatly with a counter action. Whining is a sign of envy and a display of ones own inability to adapt and keep pace.

      Einstein
      50 caliber Fist FK
      http://rootpassword./


      Again, this isn't a contest. We're not whining, it's just that a number of us see MySpace from the so-called "anonymous" perspective and it sucks. Maybe your little emo-kid clique is just fine, I don't know and I don't care. Slashdot isn't going away any time soon, and I'd wager the average IQ of a slash denizen is substantially higher than that the morons posting drinking pics and lame music on MySpace. In your case I do emphasize lame music.

      From Einstein's band profile on MySpace:
      Influences: Crack cocaine mixed with glitter glue and silly putty.


      I think this about sums it up.
    14. Re:Contrarian Opinion : Myspace rocks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not really fair, idiots dominate everything. It's just that it took them this long to figure out how to use the interweb.

    15. Re:Contrarian Opinion : Myspace rocks! by spacefiddle · · Score: 1
      Bands dominate YOUR myspace. Log out and try visiting as an anonymous user. From there it's pretty obvious: idiots dominate myspace.

      Dude, THAT'S THE POINT! Same goes on any online game, shared space, chatroom, mailing list, or what-have-you: why waste mental clockcycles on idiots when you can cause them to *cease to exist*???

      if i could filter the waking world half as easily as i /ignore, /gag, and /block, i'd be living in paradise. Camera Obscura for the masses & rose-tinted glasses. You can, if you really want, slog through the endless mire of idiocy and probably have a stroke - or, you can um, you know, not look at that crap.

      I mean seriously. You KNOW there are people in the central United States who've never seen an ocean, believe the Earth to be 5000 years old, and that fossils are Tests Of Our Faith. You know they're there. But do you spend all day listening to them just to drive yourself mad? HELL no. So why obsess over the semiliterate hormonally-ravaged products of our nation's public schools?

      I've been meeting folks, hearing new sounds, finding bands to see and even getting gigs locally thanks to a healthy mix of craigslist musician listings and the myspace music network. Are both of those locations filled with garbage in other categories? Hell yes. Is anyone forcing you to absorb the crap with the useful bits? Hell no. And yes, i said 'healthy,' 'myspace' and 'craigslist' in the same breath, will wonders never cease.

      If you're going to get that bent about the *principle* of stupid people, you're going to have a heart attack by 35. They've always been there; you can now just see them easier, is all. You still have the option to filter them from your personal reality, tho. Isn't that nice?

    16. Re:Contrarian Opinion : Myspace rocks! by spx · · Score: 1

      I think it should say 'Many musicians use myspace', not all, not afew, but many....and Im not talking about random Joe who no one knows. Trying to google 'Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Myspace' or 'Tommy Lee, Myspace'....I think this thread turned silly real quick....*goes back to watching the freaky people argue*

  53. chinese websites? by t35t0r · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What about the statistics from chinese websites? That "top 10" list hasn't a clue.

  54. Linux users can be proud... by Glowing+Fish · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Usually, I like to point out that many very mainstream, popular corporate website runs on Linux, or else on commercial Unix.

    But, in this case, I think I can proudly say, Myspace is running Windows.

    Myspace on netcraft

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  55. have fun competing against facebook by chocolatetrumpet · · Score: 1

    Looks pretty bad. A different kind of bad than myspace, but still bad.

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  56. The Olden Days by thejeffer · · Score: 2, Informative

    I liked myspace better in the olden days... when it was called Geocities.

    Seriously. Myspace is just the whole "make your own homepage" concept all over again, but this time with a built in way to search for other homepages that look as crappy as yours.

    OMG! U got a [insert craptacular emo/hiphop/boy band] vide0 on yur page 2! Letz like be friendz forever!

    1. Re:The Olden Days by mlylecarlin · · Score: 1

      Actually they made it easier and therefore worse than geocities.

  57. A giant bunghole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Myspace is a giant bunghole. Here I am, an honest pedophile trying to get laid, and they have to go and hire that new guy.

  58. Speaking of MySpace on Slashdot... by dada21 · · Score: 1

    It would be fun to find the absolute worst CSS on MySpace and substitute it on slashdot using Firefox's custom CSS feature. Talk about making the dot even more annoying, who's up for it?

  59. myspace is just Geocities 2 by McFadden · · Score: 1

    Let's face it, all that used to be was page after page of people's god awful photos, bios, music and videos on garish backgrounds. It just wasn't as interconnected due to its nature as a page hosting service. All myspace did was provide a few more content management features to tie it all together. Geocities pretty much died on its ass (well merged into Yahoo! anyway). I've no doubt myspace will go much the same way when the next fad comes along.

  60. But on the other hand... by AndyLandrews · · Score: 1

    They may be crazy teenagers who don't know any better, but I have 186 complete strangers clamoring to be my friend. It gets me an audience for my blog. I thought about retooling my old website and putting it back up (still might), but right now MySpace is where all the eyeballs are. The crazy teenage eyeballs.

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  61. There's another possible reason.. by Wah · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ..they could be trying to spoil the pool.

    I used to run the databases for the a marketing company that would try to mimic Neilsen's (and Arbitron's) methodology for selecting people. We would then bombard the neighborhood with direct mail for radio and TV stations. Contests and write ins and such.

    The idea was to get the call letters top of mind so that if a real journal came in, the target would remember that, write it down, and it would be like all 10,000 people you mailed were listening/watching.

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    1. Re:There's another possible reason.. by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      This sounds really interesting ... I think. I just wish I could understand what the hell you were talking about. Maybe you need to bombard me with direct mail so your point gets top of mind and I can remember it and write it down for when a real journal comes in?

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    2. Re:There's another possible reason.. by Kent+Recal · · Score: 1

      Don't try to make sense of what a marketing-drone says. I once did and trust me, it is a waste of time
      plus it's hard to maintain a serious face when you meet one afterwards.

    3. Re:There's another possible reason.. by Wah · · Score: 1

      It's a fairly simple concept. There is a disconnect in the ratings process that requires (err, required at the time I was doing this...about 6 years ago) people to write down the name of the station they were listening to at a particular moment. If someone remembers certain call letter and writes those down, then it counts as a listener...regardless of what *really* happened.

      Essentially it was exploiting a weakness in the ratings protocol, if that makes it seem more palatable to you.

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  62. Myspace has bands and a record label by Animats · · Score: 1

    A band, "Hollywood Undead", has apparently made itself famous by promoting itself on Myspace. They have three million hits in Google. And some of them aren't even from Myspace.

    1. Re:Myspace has bands and a record label by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 1

      And some of them aren't even about the band.

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  63. Netcraft confirms it. by Aranth+Brainfire · · Score: 1

    Myspace is dead.

    (had to say it...)

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  64. That's it. by Jethro · · Score: 2, Funny

    echo "0.0.0.0      www.myspace.com" >> /etc/hosts

    'nuff said.

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    In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is kinky.
    1. Re:That's it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just made www.myspace.com your default router. (Well, kind of.)

    2. Re:That's it. by Jethro · · Score: 1

      No, I really didn't. I made it unroutetoable. Just like doubleclick.

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  65. Party Like it's 1999! by twitter · · Score: 1
    English majors are striking it rich and, yes, I'm envious and agrivated. It's like GeoCities all over again. Or Hotmail or MP3.com. The only "free" service that did not get owned by evil, advertising, control freaks in the last boom was Google, which also has a blog easy enough for my wife to set up all by herself. Seeing the very expensive software they are using, MySpace had better hurry up and sell out their users. Cool things are happening with MySpace. The problem is that it's not your space at all, it belongs to Fox and they can pull the plug any time they want.

    Really, they are making money off the inadequate state of networking and software in the English speaking world. In a better world, you could set up your space in your house. Your computer would be running free software, which does not get burnt for sharing, and your bandwith would not be artificially crimped. I'll bet that you don't see this kind of service arising in places with good bandwith and free software adoption.

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    Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.

  66. hey, don't be so hard. by twitter · · Score: 1
    An English major and Developers, Developers, Developers. That things are a little quirky is not all their fault. I mean, how good could the latest M$ buzzword be?

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    Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.

    1. Re:hey, don't be so hard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      M$... windoze... M$... etc...

      < yawn >

  67. *shakes head sadly* by thewrathoffluffy · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm a CS student in college right now and I can sadly say I can vouch for how out of control the myFace/Spacebook craze has gotten... Another CS friend summed it up pretty well with this quote:

    "I've almost quit telling people I'm interested in computers anymore, because I keep getting the same responce: 'Oh, so does that mean you're like good at facebook?'"

    I think I died a little bit inside when he said that...

  68. Our Space. by twitter · · Score: 1
    I'm here and you are here, that makes it our space, right?

    No, bitch, it's MySpace, says Murdoch.

    Ha, ha, ha, says Mr. Gates.

    And so it goes on in the database nation. It's not yours.

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    Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.

  69. Wow this page sums up MySpace by Is0m0rph · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Wow this page sums up MySpace by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The goggles! They do nothing!

  70. Higher than 10 by SirWraith · · Score: 1

    In a number of unique visits it may be number 10, but that isn't accounting for the same people who visit it. just for web traffic there was an article about how it was #2 or #3. they have to take into account that the "unique" people who view it, probably view it about 150,000,000 times a day.

  71. Obligatory response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MySpace is high on the list of most visited sites? Good. Whatever keeps the little blighters away from LiveJournal and away from pestering me there is fine by me.

  72. How do you get an emo kid out of a tree? by freeweed · · Score: 3, Funny

    Cut the rope.

    (joke is a bit older than the emo fad, so works equally well with their goth predecessors :)

    --
    Endless arguments over trivial contradictions in books written by ignorant savages to explain thunder in the dark.
  73. Re:Contrarian Opinion : Myspace rocks! - OT by cgenman · · Score: 1

    Except that it lets editors search your bookmarks for cool stuff, and lets you submit your bookmarks for consideration in a story. And that this should be trivial to integrate with firefox or opera, so that people can "Submit this link to Slashdot" from a right-click menu. And it forces the editors to RTFA before they post the story, which is always good.

    I agree, though, that they should have just made a deal with Delicious or (my choice) Spurl instead of re-inventing the social bookmarking wheel. However, even if we never use it, you and I should still see the quality and obscurity of the stories (and the frequency of dupes) go up.

  74. Big .NET success story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MS have been claiming this as a big success story for .NET for a while. Interesting therefore that most of the pages I clicked on seemed to by running Macromedia's Cold Fusion (the .cfm extension) which is a J2EE product.

  75. OMG Ponies!!!1!1! by Wabbit+Wabbit · · Score: 1

    oh wait...

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    Nothing is inexplicable; only unexplained -Tom Baker, Doctor Who
  76. slashdot elitism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    There seems to be a prevailing view on /. that anything catering to and/or enjoyed by the public masses must be crap. Google seems to be the exception here since it carefully maintains its geek persona. While myspace does have its share of over-sexed, over-htmled crap, it has also provided brand new avenues for advertisers, marketers and, perhaps most importantly, independent bands. It's also quite handy for staying in touch with people you'd otherwise never be able to talk to.

    For the most part, I don't find the bantering on /. to be that much more mature than what goes on at myspace... slashdotters just seem to take themselves more seriously. At the end of the day, myspace is about having fun. Perhaps the reason slashdotters don't use myspace and are coming down so hard on it is their lack of entertaining stories/pictures/life to share with the world...

  77. Best use for myspace I've heard by The+Wooden+Badger · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Love line was on the radio at work the other night and I heard Dr. Drew saying how he used myspace. When his girls meet some boy and he has a myspace page, Dr. Drew takes a look and can make a reasonable judgement call of "you are not going to see this guy again" or "have fun". I have to keep that in mind when my daughter gets a little older.

    --
    Heroscape, it's like legos combined with anachronistic wargames.
  78. Realplayer in Tamil? by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

    Sorry, but why exactly is language support that much of a big deal for a media player? Does Realplayer actually do on-the-fly translation of video content? (I doubt it, but that might explain how slow it is...) Other than being able to read the help pages, what significance is language support?

  79. My (short) adventure on their space .com by rduke15 · · Score: 1

    I keep hearing mentions of myspace.com, so I went to see what it actually is.

    On the main page, there is a link to Learn More, leading to "Step 1: Create your FREE profile". There, my choices seemed to be Next or Sign Up. Since I didn't want to sign up but did want to learn more, I clicked Next to go to page 2.

    Here is what I learned on page 2: (in the familiar formatting of the standard MSIE error pages, even though I used a better browser)

    The page cannot be found

    The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

    Please try the following:

    • Make sure that the Web site address displayed in the address bar of your browser is spelled and formatted correctly.
    • If you reached this page by clicking a link, contact the Web site administrator to alert them that the link is incorrectly formatted.
    • Click the Back button to try another link.
    HTTP Error 404 - File or directory not found.
    Internet Information Services (IIS)

    Technical Information (for support personnel)

    • Go to Microsoft Product Support Services and perform a title search for the words HTTP and 404.
    • Open IIS Help, which is accessible in IIS Manager (inetmgr), and search for topics titled Web Site Setup, Common Administrative Tasks, and About Custom Error Messages.
    1. Re:My (short) adventure on their space .com by graibeard · · Score: 1

      Ha! and right you are.

      Looks like it should be http://collect.myspace.com/misc/tour_2.html rather than http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/misc/tour_2.html , and to make matters worse it happens for the next five pages.

      It makes you wonder doesn't it.

    2. Re:My (short) adventure on their space .com by RLiegh · · Score: 1

      >It makes you wonder doesn't it.

      Not really; it happening the first time tells me everything I need to know.

  80. Actually by Lawrence+Dudley · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Actually, Myspace is a great place to meet people I haven't seen in ages. Those of us with more friends than their PC will use myspace. And no, my page is not 9000px wide, and yes, I did code the css myself. Not everyone on myspace is a noob, but a lot of people on /. are ignorant!

    1. Re:Actually by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A visit to a random news post on Slashdot covers bad and good posts alike, but so far on my random MySpace visits, I've only seen rotten eggs to web pages. I think that's where he's coming from. Maybe some nuggets of gold are scattered around there, but I have to wonder why one would give themselves such a bad name to use MySpace of all things then. :-)

    2. Re:Actually by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who cares? If you're on myspace, you ARE a n00b. You n00b!

  81. Re:in other news (check out my MySpace!) by Ingolfke · · Score: 1

    You just haven't been to the right MySpace pages. Check out mine

  82. cool... by Lazy+Jones · · Score: 1
    ... now someone just needs to learn the art of creating a convincing, but misleading profile. I can see the book coming: "build a myspace.com profile and get laid in 5 easy steps!"

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    "I love my job, but I hate talking to people like you" (Freddie Mercury)
  83. Re:is it trolling? by 4D6963 · · Score: 1
    MySpace has been in the top ten since January.

    According to Alexa...

    lol man, dupe comments. Same title, same message, one posted 20 minutes before the other, not the same moderation.

    Go figure!

    --
    You just got troll'd!
  84. This is scary, because they censor by giminy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Myspace is owned by Rupert Murdoch & Company. Before anyone confuses me with a conspiracy theorist, they really do censor what you can write via Myspace. Article text is here: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interes ting-people/200601/msg00095.html .

    I tried to post the above article on my Myspace message board, but it never actually gets posted (gets filtered out). I ran it through a l33tsp34k filter and it will post just fine.

    Kind of scary, if only because people probably don't expect the service to do that kind of filtering.

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    The Right Reverend K. Reid Wightman,
  85. I wish my grass was emo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because then it would cut itself.

  86. BangBros by gerf · · Score: 1

    Bang Brothers porn site is 315, not far behind! Dang, I should buy some of that stock!

  87. We Hate Myspace by packetmill · · Score: 0

    I have never visited MySpace.com. Well, once only, but it was unintentional.

    Can i be have my karma back? Plz?

  88. The Title should have a thousand ??? by OutlandishMacabre · · Score: 1

    I was just talking recently about how much I hate myspace to all the moronic teenage idiots at school, and then this happens. Why don't the hackers of the world do good for us all and destroy myspace! All geeks reunite we must protect the internet from this vile attack against us! If we don't all the non-geeks will take the only thing we have have control of from us, the world of computers!

  89. Re:How many emo kids does it take to screw in a li by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, they'll sit there and whine, in that god forsaken whiny voice that for some reason is worshipped among the emo/punk community.

  90. Inaccurate headline. by mattpointblank · · Score: 1

    Myspace might be popular but it certainly isn't one of the "Top 10 Internet Sites". The coders have no idea regarding scalability (not that I claim to, either, but then my site gets 25,000 hits/month so it's not a huge concern), so the site breaks all the time. Add to that the hilariously lax controls over what can go on your profile (css, javascript and tracking cookies, anyone?) and it's amazing the site hasn't imploded. But mark my words, one day it will, and millions of voices will suddenly cry out in terror and will be suddenly silenced.

  91. MySpace by certel · · Score: 1

    You know, as much as I dislike some of the crap on MySpace, it's pretty neat to log in and see someone in your friends request that you haven't seen in about 4-5 years. Finding people on there in the social networking role that it was designed for, actually works rather well.

  92. Pure Pwnage pwns myEmoSpace by fritzk3 · · Score: 1
    The guys at Pure Pwnage did a take on this in their latest episode - about how mySpace is a glorified "pay attention to me" posting board for lots o' emo kids out there. The main character Googles for "attention whore", hits "I'm Feeling Lucky," and guess where he lands? :)

    While there may be a couple of iotas of redeeming value at mySpace (connecting you with people you haven't seen/talked with in a while, and actually *wanted* to talk with again, etc.) the whole site feels like a high school popularity contest all over again.

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    All your sig are belong to us.
  93. MySpace and The Implications of Social Networking by JrbM689 · · Score: 0

    Thinking back about ten years to December 25, 1995, I remember my first computer. It was an IBM Aptiva with a 120MHz Pentium processor. It was the most incredible device I had ever laid eyes and hands on. I was most definitely in awe from the immense capabilities of this state-of-the-art machine. Of course, it wouldn't be long until I discovered I hadn't even scratched the surface of what my latest neat toy could do.
            I can recall it as if it were yesterday, the first time I logged onto the Internet via 28.8Kbps dial-up to the Microsoft Network. I had been browsing the "newsgroups" to see what the fuss was all about, and why my mother should be paying $25 a month for me to use up our phone line.
            It was then, I initiated a chat with another user of this "Microsoft Network." Definitely it was the grandest experience of my life, at that time, speaking with an anonymous user. Sending a message with my computer in Fort Lauderdale, Florida and receiving a response back almost instantly from this man in Australia.
            Of course, times have changed since then. With the advent of cross-platform, cross-network "instant messaging" applications, instantaneous full-duplex communication with people across the globe has become not just a reality, but a way of life. I now see peers of mine messaging anyone and everyone during the more dull moments of class on their networked mobile phones, PDAs, and "hip tops."
            I have thought to myself for a long while, how wonderful it would be to leverage the global communications infrastructure for social development, education, and recreation. Amazingly enough, my greatest hopes have been realized.
            The Internet is now being used to traffic democratic idea(l)s in and out of China, a country whose people otherwise would never have a chance at political, economic, and/or judgmental freedom.
            Websites such as MySpace, Friendster, LiveJournal, and Xanga are allowing users around the globe interact through user-created, individually customized web pages. Users publicly post editorials, pictorials, and commentaries for all to view and subsequently respond with commentaries of their own personal styles.
            As much potential as these social-networking ecosystems hold within, it may take years, even decades, for the power to be harnessed to promote the greater good, as it took for the original World Wide Web, electronic mail, and search engines.

            I suppose we'll have to take a wait and see stance.
                            See you in another ten.

  94. I don't know about you guys by danpsmith · · Score: 1

    But if you are into free internet hookups, myspace is definitely a pretty good source. It allows you to actually find non-tech girls and tech girls alike. Almost everyone has a myspace, so you aren't just limited to the fat girls that have to talk on the Internet cuz they can't get a man elsewhere anymore. All this variety, despite the crappy pages, is great. It's good to meet people on the Internet that aren't all just about the Internet. No matter if the pages are ugly or not...cuz I don't look at them much to begin with.

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    Judges and senates have been bought for gold; Esteem and love were never to be sold.
  95. Re:How many emo kids does it take to screw in a li by airherbe · · Score: 2, Funny

    My lawn is so Emo,
    it cuts itself.

  96. Real Player alternative by ejd3 · · Score: 1

    Real was a big surprise for me too. I've refused to install real player, or real one player, or whatever the newest hyped name is, for some time now on any computer I come into contact with. Not only is it bad, it is intrusive. I highly recommend Real Alternative if you absolutely must play real files. It's worked perfectly fine for me.

  97. Myspace *does* suck... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...so very much, actually. I hate the flash, I hate the background music, and I fucking loathe the abominations people wreak with their CSS.

    However... it has gotten me laid. Yes, you read that right, bad CSS got me laid.

    Amazing what the world it coming to, isn't it?

  98. POORLY designed by revlayle · · Score: 1

    Not enough animated GIFs on that website

    Also.... needs more cowbell

  99. Yes and no by blueZ3 · · Score: 1

    I think that you're right--there's a certain "geeky elitism" that prevails on Slashdot. But to a certain extent, that's part of the value of Slashdot: because many posters subscribe to the general idea that rational discussion and interesting points (from an intellectual POV) are the important thing, you often get comments that are well thought out (with flames and trolls hopefully modded down). On slashdot, I see links to interesting information in the comments--links that sometimes make me re-think ideas I have, links that provide interesting information, and even links to things I'm interested in purchasing. While there are flames (and Beowulf clusters of in Soviet Russia jokes) I'd say about 75% of what I see on slashdot is interesting to me on some level.

    About 90% of what I've seen on myspace is not just uninteresting, it makes me want to put my eyes out with a fork. It's not its popularity that makes slashdot readers think that myspace is crap. It's that what you see in general IS crap (if you don't have an account--I've heard people with accounts say they have a different perspective). If you can't see a difference between 10 million poorly written, badly formatted, blinking, flashing, OMG Ponies myspace pages and the articles and comments on slashdot, I'm not sure how to help you.

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    Interested in a Flash-based MAME front end? Visit mame.danzbb.com
  100. MySpace is just.... by schlick · · Score: 1

    Craigslist with pictures and sound...

    I wish I could get all my friends to switch to orkut.

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    "It's because they're stupid, that's why. That's why everybody does everything." -Homer Simpson
  101. Reason Microsoft is so high on the list: by Exinex · · Score: 1

    Error check has found a possible solution. Click here for more information.

  102. Can't resist... by Hrodvitnir · · Score: 1

    Trust me, there's a whole lot of people

    there are a whole lot of people...

    --
    "There are more important things than stopping terrorism. Upholding the Constitution is one of them." - Ars Forumer.
  103. How to block MySpace traffic & hotlinking by Ponga · · Score: 1

    After doing some research, I found out that MySpace lives in a single Class C IP block, (This may change over time, but as of now this info is accurate.)
    Simply add this to your firewall rules to block and your set!
    MySpace IP Block:
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    63.208.226.0/24

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    -Ponga

  104. I've never seen a more nasty site in my life by afroloop · · Score: 0

    I checked it out, it is horrible! I've never seen anything so nasty in all of my life on the web. I have two kids, hopefully myspace will be long forgotton by the time they are teens.

  105. mspace architecture by gaidien · · Score: 1

    My space has been growin at 260,000 people per day. It's hosted on 150 servers down from 250 servers. http://www.microsoft.com/billgates/speeches/2006/0 3-20MIX.asp MySpace has 65 million registered members, and that's growing at 260,000 members every day. In February we had 38 million unique views, and 23 billion page views. In fact, Media Metrics tells us that we're the No. 2-trafficked site on the Internet, passing Google, eBay, and just recently MSN. Sorry about that, Bill. Bill can take comfort in knowing that we've achieved these numbers using SQL Server 2005, and also ASP.NET 2.0. (Applause.) So right around the time that we started MySpace we took a look at some other social networking sites on the Internet, Friendster was blowing up, but it was just a dating site. There were some other sites out there that were geared towards business, classifieds, we wanted to do something different, we wanted something for everybody. Our vision was to become a next-generation portal that empowers people to speak for themselves, and do whatever they want. So we gathered all the cool features that we saw on the Internet, and we brought them together, and integrated them into our social networking platform. Music is one of the best examples of things to become incredibly popular on MySpace. So let's take a look at some of the technical milestones we've hit with Microsoft. We've been around for 2-1/2 years. Since the beginning we've had to make continuous changes to keep up with the growth. MySpace has primarily relied on Microsoft technologies, for both the operating system and for the database and development platform. On our way to 65 million members we started off with a simple backend architecture, but we quickly realized a lot more was needed for us to stay alive. Our first big win was at 9 million members when we converted parts of MySpace over to ASP.net. We immediately saw huge performance gains, specifically on the CPU. With ASP.net our developers are also able to take advantage of the true object oriented programming nature that C# provides. At 17 million members we deployed a large-scale dynamic caching engine in ASP.net. We were able to get 92 percent cache hit rates, which greatly reduced the amount of load on our databases. We were also using a 64-bit version of ASP.net, so we can load up our servers with a huge amount of RAM, which reduced the number of servers we had to put in the data center. SQL Server has been core to MySpace since the beginning. We were early adopters of SQL Server 2005, and in testing we found that there were huge performance benefits in it. We had SQL Server in production before it was officially released, and it relieved a lot of performance bottlenecks in the MySpace architecture.