What the hell is the point of supportable software? How the hell do you plan on keeping your job when the next guy (who's in India and $5/hour instead of $55/hour) uses your "excellently programmed code" to work yourself out of a job?
Seriously, screw the next guy. Just follow your companies procedures (no more no less) and move on your merry way. I've never met a software engineer that got paid less than a "support technician". The difference is if the support person could do the programmers job, they would be (I was a support person initially while trying to get the necessary experience to become a good developer).
Your first few jobs usually pay shit because you know shit. Once you've been in a couple of situations you can learn from you become the 3-4 year experienced developer most jobs are looking for (not too expensive, but knows his/her shit).
I make over 100k in Oklahoma and it's no coincidence my first 2 jobs were in Dallas Texas. I used Dallas to get a better job (there are almost zero entry-level positions in Oklahoma) where I really wanted to work. No matter how much schooling/self-learning you do there is no equal to real world experience and making someone elses job easier isn't the domain of the programmer, it's the IT manager/CIO/Team leader's job to set the goals and timetable of the project(s). In my case I'm the project manager and one of the developers so I make damn sure our specs, design docs, methodologies are followed precisely (since I've got to mop up the messes).
I use Windows, Solaris, OS 9, OS X, Linux (Redhat currently) and FreeBSD. I don't have time to screw with stuff either and I fully believe Linux is no where near ready for the Desktop.
The thing is I don't give a shit. I don't develop Linux, I just use it. And as such it meets my needs. When people want something for nothing they really shouldn't bitch about "useability". If you want ease of use get a Mac. Or hell for that matter get a Windows machine, it's a lot easier to work with than a linux box (especially when his friend Milt is only familiar with DOS, Windows and Networking as I said above).
I am far from a "smug Linux coding wizard" and user friendliness is worth about 2 cents when you're not getting paid for a product. OSS is great in my opinion (i've been using linux since '95) and has come millions of miles from where it was. However, Linux for the desktop is a joke. BTW, buy StarOffice, it comes with a database program which most "Desktop Users" really don't need.
OS X: Unix-based Desktop MS Office (actually it's quite nice) Photoshop InDesign Illustrator FlashMX DreamweaverMX Oracle (if it would get out of RC 2) FileMaker.....
OS X kicks the shit out of linux as a desktop. Why get a philips-head screw driver for a flat-head job?
The RIGHT TOOL FOR THE RIGHT JOB, it should be common sense. Unfortunately it is far from common and sense left the IT industry in the 90's like a "Bat out of Hades!".
He was refering to his "friend Milt" who was the Windows/DOS/Network guy. This is the person I said shouldn't be trying to install it on Linux. Now if he would have tried on Windows that would have made sense.
The columnist is a linux user and as such figured out the problem and posted the solution. Now how much of a user he is can be debated.
You dont have to be "leet" as you put it to install the equivilent in Linux but it helps to have actually been a user of linux beyond "I installed Suse today".
So if the writer and Milt are the same person I guess you're right. Otherwise reread the article, again.
since it's their contention that they are using no GPL'ed code they can tell you to go fuck yourself and hire a lawyer (we'll see you in court).
And if you're not aware Judges, Juries, and Lawyers are technical dipshits (note the M$ trial).
If you are putting your faith in a legal system that is presided over by friends of politicians and juries of the lowest common denominator, you're a fool.
The "journalist" who wrote the article said his friend was having a hard time getting MySQL, OpenOffice and Linux (Suse) to work. He then lists that his friend can 1) network computers 2) make anything work in DOS and Windows and 3) simply installed the RPMs.
I'm not sure what the hell qualifies this guy to be able to do much of anything in Linux much less tie MySQL to OO via ODBC.
It kills their electric bill. (I was an auditor at the phone company).
Hate to tell you this but you pay the fee
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either way. If they accept credit cards it doesn't always reflect in price because for a 2.5% loss (visa, mc) or 4.5% (amex) they don't have to screw with bounced checks, getting robbed because they have loads of cash on hand.
Not to mention if they do adjust the rate you don't get a "discount" for buying with cash as that doesn't give the store any benefit (people would avoid using cards there).
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A rule where I worked was we'd all go out to eat lunch as a group but you had to have cash for your part because there is nothing worse than a table of 6 people all paying with debit cards. See your server in an hour.
A manager would rip you a new one if you constantly paid with a CC/debit card.
There is a "whole fucking market behind it". Vegas hookers to be exact.
All joking aside, there is a huge economic/financial impact on the control of actual money entering and leaving the market. It's called Monetary Supply and the Fed controls it very well (to keep inflation etc away). Intermediaries and Markets was by far the most difficult Finance class I took in getting my degree (probably because Dr. Stanhouse is a leader in the nation in studying this topic, he's at OU from Notre Dame I believe).
Can you post a link to this? Granted they are primarily guesses at benchmarks but I believe IBM's strategy is to refresh the market with an IBM branded Linux SW/Hardware combination (probably running RedHat distro). It's kind of good for IBM and Apple.
Seriously, without MS would there be a reported "shortage of qualified computer personnel"?
If all these exploits are beaten before they are even implemented how will one prove their worth to their employers?
Damn it, I thought that SQL Slammer was a saving grace. We didn't have our servers at sp3 but then again they are behind a dual stage firewall so we had no hicup at all. However, I got the time at work to install patches as a result of the media.
To summarize: don't eliminate vunerabilities because you'll just be eliminating someones job (both the admins and hackers).
[end sarcasm, or my attempt at sarcasm since I haven't seen any around these parts since 1995]
lol, guess my wife gets pissed though when our waitress gets a $50 tip.
Being a software developer is like winning the lottery, just a tad slower to collect the earnings.
1. Get degree 2. Get job/apply degree 3. Find area of need or opportunity 4. Start own business in field (if fail go back to #2) 5. Profit!!!! (just starting to get there...)
intended user of Photoshop. How about InDesign/Quark? Do you have anything for those. Oh yeah btw I tried to get PS 5, 5.5 and 6 (havent bothered on 7) running and they wouldn't run under Wine (I do run Textpad in Wine).
Bluecurve IS a desktop since the theme is what the user interfaces with and not the underlying Window Manager.
Apparently you don't have any hardware that is unable to work on your "real distro", however in the "real world" I don't have time to fuck with tweaking the system for several hours when on another system it just works.
Try running a Highpoint Rocket RAID 100/133 card on a SMP Intel based system. There is a kernel error that is caused in the smp thread implementation that I don't care to trace down. Also I have a new mobo using "Chipset: VIA KT400 / VIA VT8235" and it will not install 7.2, 7.3 or 8.0. How's that for "stable".
Like I said I'm a huge linux fan having used it since '95. It amazes me every day how far it has come. It also reminds me daily of how far it needs to go.
Where is the menu item? Look at all the kick ass gui tools for OS X Server that make running Apache as easy or easier than IIS.
Until everything is integrated it's not there for the end user. I have no problem with linux on the server side (with the exception of a thread error in the smp kernel that comes with my rocket raid 100, killing my server dead using ssh/sftp).
Until Linux has a decent desktop (where installing an application actually integrates with the menu) and has some decent apps (Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Flash, Illustrator, Premiere,...) I'll be sticking with OS X on the client side and Linux/Solaris on the server side. Blue curve is a great try at a good desktop, maybe it will take off.
Linux has a long way to go to match the ease of use of even windows much less comparing it to OS X. I have no problems with linux b/c I've been using it since around '95 (ah slackware). However, trying to find all the workarounds to keep things playing friendly isn't fun on higher end or newer hardware.
then you're obviously clueless when comparing to an Apple. It's like saying my 1974 Pinto is much better than the 2003 Mach I Mustang. Where an Apple is like a Jaguar (no pun intended, being a ford fan).
I would wait on the IBM 970 (G5 whatever) that is coming out this next fall/winter. 64bit, 900MHz Bus, Altivec(or whatever it'll be called), approx 2ghz...
Unless you want a laptop then a Powerbook is a good buy (except 15", there are new bodies for 15.4" powerbook and iBooks on the way).
Just my 2cents being an Apple/Linux/Windows/Solaris user.
ATI was the last resort. Maybe you'd think I tried that before complaining but then again I guess not.
I thought the problem was related to MS not the video card until after about 3-4 hours of testing everything I could on the laptop it kept coming back to the shitty ATI drivers. I have 1/2 my cards ATI and 1/2 nVidia (based) and I have never had a hardware/driver issue with an nVidia card. I've had about a 50/50 chance of an ATI card working, which is why I only buy nVidia.
Go look for new drivers for the high end 2+ GHz HP Pavilion laptops and see if there are any new drivers. Dipshit.
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They could pass a resolution, but doing something about it wouldn't happen.
If they cannot stand behind their votes they need to disband. The UN is a fucking joke.
What the hell is the point of supportable software? How the hell do you plan on keeping your job when the next guy (who's in India and $5/hour instead of $55/hour) uses your "excellently programmed code" to work yourself out of a job?
Seriously, screw the next guy. Just follow your companies procedures (no more no less) and move on your merry way. I've never met a software engineer that got paid less than a "support technician". The difference is if the support person could do the programmers job, they would be (I was a support person initially while trying to get the necessary experience to become a good developer).
Your first few jobs usually pay shit because you know shit. Once you've been in a couple of situations you can learn from you become the 3-4 year experienced developer most jobs are looking for (not too expensive, but knows his/her shit).
I make over 100k in Oklahoma and it's no coincidence my first 2 jobs were in Dallas Texas. I used Dallas to get a better job (there are almost zero entry-level positions in Oklahoma) where I really wanted to work. No matter how much schooling/self-learning you do there is no equal to real world experience and making someone elses job easier isn't the domain of the programmer, it's the IT manager/CIO/Team leader's job to set the goals and timetable of the project(s). In my case I'm the project manager and one of the developers so I make damn sure our specs, design docs, methodologies are followed precisely (since I've got to mop up the messes).
I use Windows, Solaris, OS 9, OS X, Linux (Redhat currently) and FreeBSD. I don't have time to screw with stuff either and I fully believe Linux is no where near ready for the Desktop.
DreamweaverMX .....
The thing is I don't give a shit. I don't develop Linux, I just use it. And as such it meets my needs. When people want something for nothing they really shouldn't bitch about "useability". If you want ease of use get a Mac. Or hell for that matter get a Windows machine, it's a lot easier to work with than a linux box (especially when his friend Milt is only familiar with DOS, Windows and Networking as I said above).
I am far from a "smug Linux coding wizard" and user friendliness is worth about 2 cents when you're not getting paid for a product. OSS is great in my opinion (i've been using linux since '95) and has come millions of miles from where it was. However, Linux for the desktop is a joke. BTW, buy StarOffice, it comes with a database program which most "Desktop Users" really don't need.
OS X:
Unix-based Desktop
MS Office (actually it's quite nice)
Photoshop
InDesign
Illustrator
FlashMX
Oracle (if it would get out of RC 2)
FileMaker
OS X kicks the shit out of linux as a desktop. Why get a philips-head screw driver for a flat-head job?
The RIGHT TOOL FOR THE RIGHT JOB, it should be common sense. Unfortunately it is far from common and sense left the IT industry in the 90's like a "Bat out of Hades!".
He was refering to his "friend Milt" who was the Windows/DOS/Network guy. This is the person I said shouldn't be trying to install it on Linux. Now if he would have tried on Windows that would have made sense.
The columnist is a linux user and as such figured out the problem and posted the solution. Now how much of a user he is can be debated.
You dont have to be "leet" as you put it to install the equivilent in Linux but it helps to have actually been a user of linux beyond "I installed Suse today".
So if the writer and Milt are the same person I guess you're right. Otherwise reread the article, again.
since it's their contention that they are using no GPL'ed code they can tell you to go fuck yourself and hire a lawyer (we'll see you in court).
And if you're not aware Judges, Juries, and Lawyers are technical dipshits (note the M$ trial).
If you are putting your faith in a legal system that is presided over by friends of politicians and juries of the lowest common denominator, you're a fool.
The "journalist" who wrote the article said his friend was having a hard time getting MySQL, OpenOffice and Linux (Suse) to work. He then lists that his friend can 1) network computers 2) make anything work in DOS and Windows and 3) simply installed the RPMs.
I'm not sure what the hell qualifies this guy to be able to do much of anything in Linux much less tie MySQL to OO via ODBC.
It kills their electric bill. (I was an auditor at the phone company).
either way. If they accept credit cards it doesn't always reflect in price because for a 2.5% loss (visa, mc) or 4.5% (amex) they don't have to screw with bounced checks, getting robbed because they have loads of cash on hand.
Not to mention if they do adjust the rate you don't get a "discount" for buying with cash as that doesn't give the store any benefit (people would avoid using cards there).
A rule where I worked was we'd all go out to eat lunch as a group but you had to have cash for your part because there is nothing worse than a table of 6 people all paying with debit cards. See your server in an hour.
A manager would rip you a new one if you constantly paid with a CC/debit card.
There is a "whole fucking market behind it". Vegas hookers to be exact.
All joking aside, there is a huge economic/financial impact on the control of actual money entering and leaving the market. It's called Monetary Supply and the Fed controls it very well (to keep inflation etc away). Intermediaries and Markets was by far the most difficult Finance class I took in getting my degree (probably because Dr. Stanhouse is a leader in the nation in studying this topic, he's at OU from Notre Dame I believe).
lol, 24MB Install for "Hello, World!"
italian, french, swedish, spanish, chinese, japanese, indian, portugeuse, german, russian, latvian, iranian, ...
So yes, we have invented everything. Yeah baby!
just follow the guy's link (notice mine is related to my name).
Best joke ever. Watching the Matrix on VHS. Tears man, Tears!!!
Can you post a link to this? Granted they are primarily guesses at benchmarks but I believe IBM's strategy is to refresh the market with an IBM branded Linux SW/Hardware combination (probably running RedHat distro). It's kind of good for IBM and Apple.
"You eat pieces of poop for breakfast?"
Blah.
It will be out in the fall as well. Plus IBM is using it as a Linux platform as well (in addition to the new line of Apple computers).
Mark my words (or not), the IBM PPC 970 will take over the market in the next 3-5 years (or not).
The king is dead, long live the king.
Seriously, without MS would there be a reported "shortage of qualified computer personnel"?
If all these exploits are beaten before they are even implemented how will one prove their worth to their employers?
Damn it, I thought that SQL Slammer was a saving grace. We didn't have our servers at sp3 but then again they are behind a dual stage firewall so we had no hicup at all. However, I got the time at work to install patches as a result of the media.
To summarize: don't eliminate vunerabilities because you'll just be eliminating someones job (both the admins and hackers).
[end sarcasm, or my attempt at sarcasm since I haven't seen any around these parts since 1995]
lol, guess my wife gets pissed though when our waitress gets a $50 tip.
Being a software developer is like winning the lottery, just a tad slower to collect the earnings.
1. Get degree
2. Get job/apply degree
3. Find area of need or opportunity
4. Start own business in field (if fail go back to #2)
5. Profit!!!! (just starting to get there...)
intended user of Photoshop. How about InDesign/Quark? Do you have anything for those. Oh yeah btw I tried to get PS 5, 5.5 and 6 (havent bothered on 7) running and they wouldn't run under Wine (I do run Textpad in Wine).
Bluecurve IS a desktop since the theme is what the user interfaces with and not the underlying Window Manager.
Apparently you don't have any hardware that is unable to work on your "real distro", however in the "real world" I don't have time to fuck with tweaking the system for several hours when on another system it just works.
Try running a Highpoint Rocket RAID 100/133 card on a SMP Intel based system. There is a kernel error that is caused in the smp thread implementation that I don't care to trace down. Also I have a new mobo using "Chipset: VIA KT400 / VIA VT8235" and it will not install 7.2, 7.3 or 8.0. How's that for "stable".
Like I said I'm a huge linux fan having used it since '95. It amazes me every day how far it has come. It also reminds me daily of how far it needs to go.
rpm -Uvh openssh*.rpm
Where is the menu item? Look at all the kick ass gui tools for OS X Server that make running Apache as easy or easier than IIS.
Until everything is integrated it's not there for the end user. I have no problem with linux on the server side (with the exception of a thread error in the smp kernel that comes with my rocket raid 100, killing my server dead using ssh/sftp).
But no one wants to pay Apple's high-end prices.
...) I'll be sticking with OS X on the client side and Linux/Solaris on the server side. Blue curve is a great try at a good desktop, maybe it will take off.
Until Linux has a decent desktop (where installing an application actually integrates with the menu) and has some decent apps (Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Flash, Illustrator, Premiere,
Linux has a long way to go to match the ease of use of even windows much less comparing it to OS X. I have no problems with linux b/c I've been using it since around '95 (ah slackware). However, trying to find all the workarounds to keep things playing friendly isn't fun on higher end or newer hardware.
then you're obviously clueless when comparing to an Apple. It's like saying my 1974 Pinto is much better than the 2003 Mach I Mustang. Where an Apple is like a Jaguar (no pun intended, being a ford fan).
I would wait on the IBM 970 (G5 whatever) that is coming out this next fall/winter. 64bit, 900MHz Bus, Altivec(or whatever it'll be called), approx 2ghz...
Unless you want a laptop then a Powerbook is a good buy (except 15", there are new bodies for 15.4" powerbook and iBooks on the way).
Just my 2cents being an Apple/Linux/Windows/Solaris user.
ATI was the last resort. Maybe you'd think I tried that before complaining but then again I guess not.
I thought the problem was related to MS not the video card until after about 3-4 hours of testing everything I could on the laptop it kept coming back to the shitty ATI drivers. I have 1/2 my cards ATI and 1/2 nVidia (based) and I have never had a hardware/driver issue with an nVidia card. I've had about a 50/50 chance of an ATI card working, which is why I only buy nVidia.
Go look for new drivers for the high end 2+ GHz HP Pavilion laptops and see if there are any new drivers. Dipshit.