Nah. If you understand that the basis of behaviour is genetic you can manipulate it.
My older son is just like me. Same sort of responses in social situations. Same sort of responses under stress. He just acts the same way. I noticed this when he was about ten, and used that to 'guide' him through situations that I wish I could relive. Just gave advice and insight that I didn't have 25years ago. Overall, I think he is much happier and will be more successful in life than I ever was.
Behaviorally, my younger son is the spitting image of his mother, even though he looks much more like me. I've learned to hold back with him more. Let his mother do more of the guiding. She understands him better than I do. She and I have talked about it, and it is just so amazingly obvious how the two boys 'inherited' traits from each of us.
I agree with you that it would be very complex, but that doesn't matter. A complex set of actions results in a letter appearing on my screen every time I hit a key. The set of actions is more complex in a GUI than in a command line, but the key results in a character, nonetheless. I think it is obvious that behavioral tendencies are as inheritable as eye color.
Unions will negotiate a "quota" for each job. I worked in a union shop, and was moved into another persons position for a day. The job was to program EPROMs (remember those?). The quota was obviously set when it was done using a slow, single chip programmer, as the quota was about 2 per hour. The hardware did 16 at a time in less than 2 minutes. Unions don't like workers to bust the quota. I had to run around and look for a corner to hide in for most of the day.
That is just ONE of the specific ways that unions add overhead. I could list many more:
- 'senior' employees being promoted over 'experienced' ones.
- job division. Person A can't pick up a wrench (it's a mechanics job). Person B can't flip a switch (it's the electrician's job). Neither can turn on the water (it's the plumber's job).
- I had an engineer come to me one day and ask that I take a box to the other building. I put the empty box on a cart and start down the hall with it. He walked beside me. When I asked what the hell he was doing, he said that he had to go there anyway. !!!???!!! He wasn't allowed to push a cart with an empty box on it. That was a UNION job.
After a while, it just gets boring listing all the ways that a union can fubar a company.
If you still don't think this is better than meetings on the internet or The Big Lebowski bowling tournaments, you have some serious social attachment issues and should consider removing yourself from society.
I think you are the one with social attachment issues. I KNOW the competitors in the Big Lebowski bowling tournament. I actually interact with those people during the internet meetings. I don't need to experience some vicarious relationships with people I have never and will never meet to make me feel human. I need real relationships.
You go ahead and cheer for the people you don't know. I'm to busy working with the wrestlers at my son's high school, helping them develop and grow into men. The Olympics or professional sports* are just a distraction for people to lazy to get out and do it themselves.
*Those 'professional athletes' need to grow up and get real jobs.
Crappy food? Dude, try living on a unvaried diet of whatever you happen to be able to grow at your particular lattitude with your particular soils, and then just going hungry when a famine hit. Even just 20 years ago, the state of the art was that the best meal for a male athlete was steak and potatoes...which ranks near the bottom in most measures of training efficacy.
Your other hidden premise is to compare the nutrition of a training athlete to the population at large. Just because WE have a sedentary lifestyle doesn't mean the typical athlete does.
I met some awesome people at Microsoft, people I really respect.
And why would I care? Yeah, they're some nice people there, but the CEO has declared war against everything open source. They have written documents detailing ways to undermine and take control of open-source projects. The leaders are known to be lying, thieving scoundrels that will turn on friends and enemies alike. The company has a stated policy that all but reads "do evil whenever possible".
If the people are so respectable, they should not find it hard to land a decent job with a reputable company.
The correct response is to do the work you want to do, then present it to the KDE team. Real, working code talks, and bullshit walks. If your process is better, your code will be better. If your code is better, people will prefer it. The grandparent is correct, except that he leaves out the conclusion of the process.
The end of the process, is that one of the forks or the original "gets it right" and releases a product with extended functionality that is easy to use and installs without flaws. All of the other forks fade away into the past, are forgotten, and the process starts again. Along the way, immature developers become mature developers, users (ie, bystanders) get a constantly improving product that they can modify to solve their own problems if they so desire, and NO ONE IS COERCED INTO DOING ANYTHING.
I don't contribute to FOSS through altruism. I contribute to show my coding prowess and express my creativity and inventiveness. I wrestled in high school and college, because I wanted the glory of winning the competition. I'm building an airplane, because I like building things. If I just wanted to fly, I could buy a used airplane and go flying much cheaper.
If I were running a business, I would contribute to a project that my business needed, with the hope that others would contribute and the sum total of their contributions would be much higher than mine. There are lots more reasons to contribute to FOSS than just altruism or to get a paycheck for hourly work.
None of those reasons need involve Microsoft, a company known for double-dealing and other felonious activities.
The vast majority of Windows users are quite happy.
That's funny. Well, at least I think it is. My wife would probably claw your eyes out. Yours and Bill Gates.
I know very few people that are "happy" with Windows. They are more "resigned" to using it. (Queue 'Saturday Night Live' theme for 'Lowered Expectations')
Empowering ourselves, you dolt. Jeesh! It just happens that by empowering ourselves, we have an opportunity to share that empowerment with others. It just happens that the cost of sharing is near zero.
You are correct. Anything Microsoft has to offer should be rejected, out of hand, sight unseen. I don't happily work with known liars, hucksters, cheats and felons. You should not either. Microsoft has proven themselves untrustworthy time after time after time. History has shown that anything they offer is likely to be tainted, and I don't care to live my life constantly having to watch the people who are supposed to be my friends.
I don't need anything from Microsoft, and they deserve nothing from me, because I can empower myself.
When the world doesn't appear logical, check your premise.
Software has close to zero variable costs, eh? That may be, but you don't buy just a CD with the software at . You buy: - the software - the printed DVD - the engineers time that spent years working on the software - the guy that put it in a box and the guy that carried it to the store - the pretty people that put the adds on the TV so that you would know the software existed - and hundreds of other small but significant people, processes and products that have to play support roles.
Further, your supposition, though unstated, is that because there is a downward pressure on prices, that everything will be priced just above the cost of production. This is a logical conclusion born of ignorance, since it misses several key factors. -As there are downward pressures, there are also upward pressures. For instance, how about the pressure of new features and content being added? -The bargain bin. Go to your favorite store. There will be a big bin of software available for $10(US). Sometimes it is 3 titles for $10(US). That's barely above the cost of printing a CD and a box to put it in. It is a demonstrable fact that there is software available for just marginally more than the cost of production. -Finally, there is the cost of entry for high technology. That would be actually knowing how to develop a high tech product. The fact is, as you've so aptly shown, intelligence is a rare commodity and draws a high price. There is competition, just not enough for all the smart people to work for free all the time.
I actually agree that the welfare state here is too generous, but in the US it's so ungenerous you see people literally starving and that's what leads to a massively higher homicide rate.
And this goes to show just how out of touch the rest of the world is with America.
People literally starving!? Dude, come over here and show me just one place where people are starving where they haven't chosen to get up off their ass and walk to get the free handouts.
Don't take my word for it. Watch any of the news investigative reports done on the homeless. Hell, talk to the people or read their books that have decided to try the "homeless lifestyle". You can literally do nothing but eat free all day, everyday. You try to hand the corner beggar a bag of food and he'll cuss you out. He wants cash, and it better be paper money. He doesn't want your damn spare change.
There are groups of people that do nothing but drive around to deliver meals to the old and infirm. The food is FREE and is brought to their doorsteps. These people are always on the lookout for someone wanting something to eat.
That's the truth of "starving in America". It's just a clue, but at least you have ONE now.
I wouldn't want to try to control the mother ship to a landing with a the payload delivered.
Jet engines aren't like your car. You can't just stomp the pedal and zoom into traffic. You have to come in with some power and be ready to spool up slowly in the case of an emergency. With one large engine, that will be one long spool up from the setting that is low enough to allow the White Knight to descend.
The White Knight isn't the typical airliner. The 777 basically lands with everything that it took off with, minus some fuel. Well....at least we hope that is the case. The White Knight expects to lose half it's weight and drag midway through the flight. The engines need to have a range sized accordingly.
Rockets are expensive now, because they're not mass produce; but they could eventually be cheaper for transport.
Consider a Fedex flight from Tokyo to New York. You have a fat airplane pushing it's way through a thick atmosphere for 14 hours. Most of the fuel used is consumed pushing through the air. Then you have 3 or 4 decently-paid pilots along for the ride on a mostly automated ride, trying to best not to die of boredom.
The rocket ride last 90 minutes. A big push up into very-thin to non-existant atmosphere, then a coasting glide home. Most of the fuel is burned in a single big push. No need for the 3rd or 4th pilot (who is there for relief on the airplane ride), since the trip is so short.
I could see the rocket eventually being much cheaper than the airplane for certain types of transport.
It's not such a great flyer right now. Just sits there in the garage waiting for me to finish building it.
That said, the useful load is phenomenal, and it has MANY characteristics that make it a exceptionally safe platform (single gas tank, for instance). It would have truly changed the experimental aircraft movement if the designer wasn't such a douchebag.
To be fair, they weren't stuck in such a bunch until the cars started flying into the stands. At that point, the knuckleheaded ruling council decided on a method of slowing the cars down that basically forced all of the engines to nearly the exact same power. They had other options to choose from, but none were quite as simple.
And those cottonseed hulls are useless to the plants until they've decomposed. What happens during this decomposition? Microbes and other dirt dwellers feed on the cottonseed hulls energy and break it down into waste products that the plant can use.
This process cuts out the dirt dwellers, leaving the energy for us and giving plants what they crave.
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Just blaming your DNA is rather defeatist.
Don't know when to give up, do ya'?
Nah. If you understand that the basis of behaviour is genetic you can manipulate it.
My older son is just like me. Same sort of responses in social situations. Same sort of responses under stress. He just acts the same way. I noticed this when he was about ten, and used that to 'guide' him through situations that I wish I could relive. Just gave advice and insight that I didn't have 25years ago. Overall, I think he is much happier and will be more successful in life than I ever was.
Behaviorally, my younger son is the spitting image of his mother, even though he looks much more like me. I've learned to hold back with him more. Let his mother do more of the guiding. She understands him better than I do. She and I have talked about it, and it is just so amazingly obvious how the two boys 'inherited' traits from each of us.
I agree with you that it would be very complex, but that doesn't matter. A complex set of actions results in a letter appearing on my screen every time I hit a key. The set of actions is more complex in a GUI than in a command line, but the key results in a character, nonetheless. I think it is obvious that behavioral tendencies are as inheritable as eye color.
What if I'm shouting in pig-latin? Or I use rot13? Is rot13 ok if I do it twice?
Congratulations. You've just iterated why your children's jobs are moving offshore. Enjoy your retirement.
Unions will negotiate a "quota" for each job. I worked in a union shop, and was moved into another persons position for a day. The job was to program EPROMs (remember those?). The quota was obviously set when it was done using a slow, single chip programmer, as the quota was about 2 per hour. The hardware did 16 at a time in less than 2 minutes. Unions don't like workers to bust the quota. I had to run around and look for a corner to hide in for most of the day.
That is just ONE of the specific ways that unions add overhead. I could list many more:
- 'senior' employees being promoted over 'experienced' ones.
- job division. Person A can't pick up a wrench (it's a mechanics job). Person B can't flip a switch (it's the electrician's job). Neither can turn on the water (it's the plumber's job).
- I had an engineer come to me one day and ask that I take a box to the other building. I put the empty box on a cart and start down the hall with it. He walked beside me. When I asked what the hell he was doing, he said that he had to go there anyway. !!!???!!! He wasn't allowed to push a cart with an empty box on it. That was a UNION job.
After a while, it just gets boring listing all the ways that a union can fubar a company.
If you still don't think this is better than meetings on the internet or The Big Lebowski bowling tournaments, you have some serious social attachment issues and should consider removing yourself from society.
I think you are the one with social attachment issues. I KNOW the competitors in the Big Lebowski bowling tournament. I actually interact with those people during the internet meetings. I don't need to experience some vicarious relationships with people I have never and will never meet to make me feel human. I need real relationships.
You go ahead and cheer for the people you don't know. I'm to busy working with the wrestlers at my son's high school, helping them develop and grow into men. The Olympics or professional sports* are just a distraction for people to lazy to get out and do it themselves.
*Those 'professional athletes' need to grow up and get real jobs.
I don't think the guys would go for either.
Crappy food? Dude, try living on a unvaried diet of whatever you happen to be able to grow at your particular lattitude with your particular soils, and then just going hungry when a famine hit. Even just 20 years ago, the state of the art was that the best meal for a male athlete was steak and potatoes...which ranks near the bottom in most measures of training efficacy.
Your other hidden premise is to compare the nutrition of a training athlete to the population at large. Just because WE have a sedentary lifestyle doesn't mean the typical athlete does.
Dude, that's funny, but I said work with...not work over! 8*)
I met some awesome people at Microsoft, people I really respect.
And why would I care? Yeah, they're some nice people there, but the CEO has declared war against everything open source. They have written documents detailing ways to undermine and take control of open-source projects. The leaders are known to be lying, thieving scoundrels that will turn on friends and enemies alike. The company has a stated policy that all but reads "do evil whenever possible".
If the people are so respectable, they should not find it hard to land a decent job with a reputable company.
Beware of wolves in sheep's clothing.
That's a cool one, too.
The correct response is to do the work you want to do, then present it to the KDE team. Real, working code talks, and bullshit walks. If your process is better, your code will be better. If your code is better, people will prefer it. The grandparent is correct, except that he leaves out the conclusion of the process.
The end of the process, is that one of the forks or the original "gets it right" and releases a product with extended functionality that is easy to use and installs without flaws. All of the other forks fade away into the past, are forgotten, and the process starts again. Along the way, immature developers become mature developers, users (ie, bystanders) get a constantly improving product that they can modify to solve their own problems if they so desire, and NO ONE IS COERCED INTO DOING ANYTHING.
I don't contribute to FOSS through altruism. I contribute to show my coding prowess and express my creativity and inventiveness. I wrestled in high school and college, because I wanted the glory of winning the competition. I'm building an airplane, because I like building things. If I just wanted to fly, I could buy a used airplane and go flying much cheaper.
If I were running a business, I would contribute to a project that my business needed, with the hope that others would contribute and the sum total of their contributions would be much higher than mine. There are lots more reasons to contribute to FOSS than just altruism or to get a paycheck for hourly work.
None of those reasons need involve Microsoft, a company known for double-dealing and other felonious activities.
The vast majority of Windows users are quite happy.
That's funny. Well, at least I think it is. My wife would probably claw your eyes out. Yours and Bill Gates.
I know very few people that are "happy" with Windows. They are more "resigned" to using it. (Queue 'Saturday Night Live' theme for 'Lowered Expectations')
Empowering ourselves, you dolt. Jeesh! It just happens that by empowering ourselves, we have an opportunity to share that empowerment with others. It just happens that the cost of sharing is near zero.
You are correct. Anything Microsoft has to offer should be rejected, out of hand, sight unseen. I don't happily work with known liars, hucksters, cheats and felons. You should not either. Microsoft has proven themselves untrustworthy time after time after time. History has shown that anything they offer is likely to be tainted, and I don't care to live my life constantly having to watch the people who are supposed to be my friends.
I don't need anything from Microsoft, and they deserve nothing from me, because I can empower myself.
When the world doesn't appear logical, check your premise.
Software has close to zero variable costs, eh? That may be, but you don't buy just a CD with the software at . You buy:
- the software
- the printed DVD
- the engineers time that spent years working on the software
- the guy that put it in a box and the guy that carried it to the store
- the pretty people that put the adds on the TV so that you would know the software existed
- and hundreds of other small but significant people, processes and products that have to play support roles.
Further, your supposition, though unstated, is that because there is a downward pressure on prices, that everything will be priced just above the cost of production. This is a logical conclusion born of ignorance, since it misses several key factors.
-As there are downward pressures, there are also upward pressures. For instance, how about the pressure of new features and content being added?
-The bargain bin. Go to your favorite store. There will be a big bin of software available for $10(US). Sometimes it is 3 titles for $10(US). That's barely above the cost of printing a CD and a box to put it in. It is a demonstrable fact that there is software available for just marginally more than the cost of production.
-Finally, there is the cost of entry for high technology. That would be actually knowing how to develop a high tech product. The fact is, as you've so aptly shown, intelligence is a rare commodity and draws a high price. There is competition, just not enough for all the smart people to work for free all the time.
I actually agree that the welfare state here is too generous, but in the US it's so ungenerous you see people literally starving and that's what leads to a massively higher homicide rate.
And this goes to show just how out of touch the rest of the world is with America.
People literally starving!? Dude, come over here and show me just one place where people are starving where they haven't chosen to get up off their ass and walk to get the free handouts.
Don't take my word for it. Watch any of the news investigative reports done on the homeless. Hell, talk to the people or read their books that have decided to try the "homeless lifestyle". You can literally do nothing but eat free all day, everyday. You try to hand the corner beggar a bag of food and he'll cuss you out. He wants cash, and it better be paper money. He doesn't want your damn spare change.
There are groups of people that do nothing but drive around to deliver meals to the old and infirm. The food is FREE and is brought to their doorsteps. These people are always on the lookout for someone wanting something to eat.
That's the truth of "starving in America". It's just a clue, but at least you have ONE now.
I wouldn't want to try to control the mother ship to a landing with a the payload delivered.
Jet engines aren't like your car. You can't just stomp the pedal and zoom into traffic. You have to come in with some power and be ready to spool up slowly in the case of an emergency. With one large engine, that will be one long spool up from the setting that is low enough to allow the White Knight to descend.
The White Knight isn't the typical airliner. The 777 basically lands with everything that it took off with, minus some fuel. Well....at least we hope that is the case. The White Knight expects to lose half it's weight and drag midway through the flight. The engines need to have a range sized accordingly.
Rockets are expensive now, because they're not mass produce; but they could eventually be cheaper for transport.
Consider a Fedex flight from Tokyo to New York. You have a fat airplane pushing it's way through a thick atmosphere for 14 hours. Most of the fuel used is consumed pushing through the air. Then you have 3 or 4 decently-paid pilots along for the ride on a mostly automated ride, trying to best not to die of boredom.
The rocket ride last 90 minutes. A big push up into very-thin to non-existant atmosphere, then a coasting glide home. Most of the fuel is burned in a single big push. No need for the 3rd or 4th pilot (who is there for relief on the airplane ride), since the trip is so short.
I could see the rocket eventually being much cheaper than the airplane for certain types of transport.
It's not such a great flyer right now. Just sits there in the garage waiting for me to finish building it.
That said, the useful load is phenomenal, and it has MANY characteristics that make it a exceptionally safe platform (single gas tank, for instance). It would have truly changed the experimental aircraft movement if the designer wasn't such a douchebag.
To be fair, they weren't stuck in such a bunch until the cars started flying into the stands. At that point, the knuckleheaded ruling council decided on a method of slowing the cars down that basically forced all of the engines to nearly the exact same power. They had other options to choose from, but none were quite as simple.
I strongly object your use of such terms against Democrats and the environmentalist wackos. Al Gore INVENTED the internet you know.
Haven't you heard. Might makes right. So training for the skills is the same as training for the morals.
And those cottonseed hulls are useless to the plants until they've decomposed. What happens during this decomposition? Microbes and other dirt dwellers feed on the cottonseed hulls energy and break it down into waste products that the plant can use.
This process cuts out the dirt dwellers, leaving the energy for us and giving plants what they crave.
There are charge cooled engines. Idling takes very little energy, especially if the engine was well tuned and broken in.
The four-wheeler could idle for a VERY long time before it ever warmed up enough to cause a burn.