Eh? You still can. Or at least, you still can here in Australia.
Eh. You can here in Canada, too... sorta.
You can get either the cheapest POS with low battery life, hardly any screen, and shit reception - or you can get a colour LCD (external also for the flip phones), 75 utilities no one uses, a ton of content that you pay for dearly, a camera, annyoing ringtones...
I had an LG 4600. Damn near the perfect phone. No stupid camera, nice external OLED screen, lasted for days. Best flip phone ever - and I hated flips until this thing. It broke, and now I can't find ANYTHING with an external screen that doesn't come with a camera and takes 15 clicks to do anything within the menu because there are 1800 options buried. Oh, and all the external screens are LCD, so they're impossible to read outside.
Phones simply suck. I'm a big fan of the iPod model of marketing, where there's basic-better-even better-best-holy shit. With phones, it's all or nothing.
you don't actually need to buy a new phone, you know - the old ones still work...
With the average cellphone lasting maybe 2-3 years max, yeah. Right. These things are built like crap. And I'm one of the more gentle people I know when it comes to gadgets.
I'll preface this by stating that I'm a Canuck. I started drinking when I was 12 years old, and it wasn't a once a year thing at that age, if you know what I mean. By the time I was 18 I was regularly putting away 15-20 drinks in an evening (think about 4 hours at a bar). I had one hell of a tolerance.
There is a WIDE range between falling down drunk and totally sober. You think you know your own limits, and well, sorry, but you don't. Hardly anyone that thinks they can drink and drive does. There's an amazing correlation between people who won't drink and drive, and those that notice the effects of small amounts of alcohol. Most people simply ignore the early stages, but fortunately we can test things like reaction time in the lab. See, individual people will get to a certain BAC with different amounts of alcohol, sure. That's "body chemistry", better known as metabolism. However, at.08 it's almost universally recognized that you have suffered enough impairment to your judgement that you should not be driving.
You may not like this personally. You may think there's a societal need for drinking and driving. We used to, too, until we were at the point where our Grade 12 yearbooks had 2 pages reserved at the end for "in memoriums". I went to a high school of about 400 students and we'd lose an average of 4-5 every year due to drinking and driving.
I can tell you that I've spent 18 years of my life drinking very regularly, and I've never driven after drinking, without a sleep first. It's perfectly normal here to actually be responsible with other people's lives, and not drink on a date or at a business function. Actually, it's much like smoking, where there's a growing stigma against getting behind the wheel saying "I'm still OK" - because we're realizing more and more that people aren't.
I've been to the southern US a few times, and believe me, you folks don't drink like we do. I remember seeing a scandalous news report about young college kids drinking (prepare yourself) 80 proof liquor, straight! Yeah, it's called a shooter. We start them around age 14 here. It's funny too, because I've been to LA before the open liquor laws. Driving around getting drunk.. weee! But people really didn't drink all that much, and maybe this is why it's more tolerated.
Anyway, if you think.08 is way too low, you're fooling yourself. Check the research sometime. Oh, and so you know, there are some provinces here that will impound your car for 24 hours if you're over.05. I wouldn't suggest coming to visit if you feel you simply must drive after 1-2 drinks:)
If you're ever hooked up a DVD player (well, 99% of them anyway), satellite receiver, or modern video game console, you know what a composite cable is.
It's the one that plugs into the yellow "video" port on your TV. Believe me, most people know what this is. They may not know the name for it, but RF/coax-only hookups are going the way of the dodo. In fact, many new TVs don't even have them.
Sad, because I still have a lot of older game consoles that only output that way, without some major modifications.
Tell that to the tens of millions of Yankees fans over the past few seasons.
Or, to bring it to the basketball world, the people who cheered Jordan and the Bulls throughout the 90s. Or the Lakers before that.
Don't kid yourself, EVERYONE cheers for the upperdog. We all want to back the winning horse. This is why election results aren't made public before polling stations are closed (well, at least in civilized countries), otherwise a huge chunk of people would end up voting for whoever's in the lead from the start.
Firstly, anyone who knowingly is driving under the influence deserves to be removed from our society. Period. If you're driving, DON'T DRINK. If you're so collosally stupid as to not be able to plan ahead in your life, take a cab. If you can't handle such trivial responsibility as this, you have no business in my world.
Secondly, anyone giving advice on how to "beat" the system on a DWI, you're pretty much as useful as a person in category #1.
Thirdly, up here in Canada most provinces will charge you with the equivalent of DWI if you refuse to take a breathalyzer test.
I just don't get why people still try to push the limit with drinking and driving. For most people, legally impaired (.08 in most areas) means you've had 2 or 3 drinks in the recent past (the one drink per hour rule is to *maintain* a BAC of.08, but to get there initially is far more than a single drink). Anyone who doesn't feel any effect from 2 or 3 drinks either is a fool, or drinks far too much to begin with. Believe me, I've been a heavy drinker in the past, and I STILL got a good buzz from 3 beer.
It frightens me just how much violence Europe has experienced over the centuries. Considering how relatively peaceful North America has been for the past century or so, it REALLY frightens me to imagine the US finally becoming a bit too aggressive towards its northern neighbour.
If I learn nothing else from history, it's to be afraid of the future.
you will never get quite the same diversity of smells as you will from rolling around in a pig sty compared to walking down the street. Your point?
If you're trying to research smells, rolling around in a pig sty would be a very good thing. Especially if you're looking at more than just the average, boring smells that everyone walking down the street has.
Wikipedia is very far removed from a normal encyclopedia, and this is its STRENGTH.
I've done some high altitude work as well in the Rockies. Not quite 14,000', but still very noticable.
The difference is, you're CLIMBING. Exerting yourself. Using up a hell of a lot more oxygen than normal. Altitude hits you very hard when you're doing any sort of exercise. Sitting in a train and experiencing low air pressure is much like being on an airplane - you don't even notice it, because you're barely moving.
I've never taken a barometric altimeter on a commercialized flight, but I do know this: while they are pressurized, they're nowhere close to sea level air pressure (anyone know what the equivalent altitude would be, btw?). I've seen people get dizzy after one too many trips to the bathroom, but generally no one notices as you're sitting down and hardly moving at all.
People who live close to sea level can get dizzy and out of breath simply walking at 5,000'. Let them sit down for a while, and they're fine. I've done 10-11,000' many times with people who are otherwise unused to it, and while they may stuggle a lot going up, they're almost always fine once they reach the top and have a chance to relax.
1. A bug is found in Microsoft software that allows remote execution of code on your machine, without user intervention. 2. Story is posted on Slashdot. 3. People rightly comment on it.
Show me the stories of bugs that simply crash IE. Really. I'm curious. Because there are literally hundreds of ways to crash IE with a malformed webpage. These don't make it as Slashdot stories. Pretty much the only vulnerabilities in MS software posted here are ones that allow an attacker to actually DO SOMETHING NASTY.
Contrast this with OSS, where we post every single meaningless bug in a piece of software, even if it has hardly any practical effect.
If anything, the double standard is that we're far more critical of OSS here than MS.
Oddly enough, I used to own several dozen pet rats. Due to the fact that you can't properly tell their sex until well after they're fertile, they ended up numbering in the hundreds. Never shared with 'em, though, the poor bastards:)
I bought my ze4200 back in April 2003. Best computer I've ever owned, incidentally (full Linux support on everything), except for the lack of USB 2. Oh well, at least it has firewire.
Anyway, just pulled my battery out to check on this recall, and yeah, not covered. However, I've never experienced any issues with overheating at all. I use it almost 99% of the time plugged in, as I'm not often far from a power outlet, so it doesn't often have a chance to lose charge. It still holds a 2+ hour charge, which is what it did originally (basically a full-length movie). It may be a bit less now but 10-20% tops.
Mind sharing what HP told you re: the BIOS etc? I was a bit disappointed that my battery wasn't covered by this recall (hey, FREE NEW BATTERY!), but still... maybe mine is set up differently.. HP vs Compaq etc. The bar code on mine is 2003/02/05a62202, btw.
I'll go out on a limb here, but I'm willing to bet that someone who uses the phrase "half-penguin/half-sheep" isn't actually willing to see anything completely non-biased.
Well, I can't speak as to browser plugins, as that's a tough nut to crack for any OS (although there are better solutions than Active-X out there).
I can speak, however, for worms. Microsoft could easily fix this problem within the OS itself - don't listen on a bunch of ports by default. In fact, listen on none. A desktop is not a server, and any server can have ports opened AS NEEDED. You know, like when a service is actually turned on or installed.
Bam. No need for a software firewall. Worms stop spreading overnight.
Actually, the issue is that GOVERNMENTS are doing things to restrict people's freedoms. Myanmar being run by a GOVERNMENT and all.
There's no double standard here at all. Those of us that don't enjoy OUR government restricting our freedom also don't enjoy OTHER governments restricting other people's freedoms. Those entities that enable governments to restrict freedom are just as bad as the governments themselves.
It's a pretty consistent worldview, if you think about it. It's much easier to rant about Slashdot's double standards, I realize.
I can't believe that the posters are not able to see the difference
It's not a matter of if they're able. It's just far more fun to take any issue, no matter how unrelated, and twist it into "open source is as evil, and certainly no better than everything else".
Witness the continual stream of posts to the effect of "if P2P is good, why are GPL violations bad?", "no operating system is perfect" (usually prefaced by "if Linux had xx% market share", "if Microsoft is held liable for bugs, so should OSS authors", and "Apple has a monopoly on mp3 players/they bundle Quicktime", all being modded up highly. Oh yeah, and for an extra mod point or two, the accusation of "Slashdot bias!!!". Yup, a bias that consistently works in reverse.
There's some intense hatred for OSS (and anything non-mainstream) on Slashdot lately. The tinfoil hat part of me would ascribe it to astroturfing/shilling, but quite frankly most of it is so juvenile that I usually write it off to "stop making me think outside of the box". I can't speak for most people online, but those I know offline usually feel pretty intimidated by OSS ideas. Linux is too hard to learn/use (makes them feel inferior), and the general OSS philosophy is just too different from how the rest of the world works. Ergo, attack anything and anyone related to it, because it's too hard to understand or accept.
Just the educated groups. Don't worry, another couple of centuries and we'll finally stop believing in astrology.
Groupthink still holds to the belief that conservatives believe Sadam Hussein bombed the WTC.
No, just that your president believes this. Or used to, anyway, based on the things he said leading up to Gulf War 2. I don't think he does any longer, but now that he's created Vietnam 2, I'm not sure exactly WHAT he could be thinking.
The funny thing is, I've seen people actually claim that Vietnam was anything but a complete and utter disaster. Pretty soon we're going to be hearing "we need to stay in Iraq, because look what happened after the liberals made us leave Vietnam".
I'm surprised at how often I see the word "liberal" used as a slur/insult.
I really don't get it. A "liberal-minded" person is an open-minded and tolerant person. This is a bad thing why?
Sometimes it seems like my parents have invaded Slashdot. Damn hippies, why can't they just think/act/dress the same as I do?
For the record, I'm a Canuck. I absolutely loathe our Liberal party here, because they don't strike me as particularly "liberal", except when they're helping themselves to "liberal" amounts of my taxes. In fact, I'd consider myself a pretty right-wing person - except for some reason these days that means I have to hate homosexuals, and demand the Bible be taught in school.
So you can pay for a "better" version if you want more RAM, duh!:)
Kinda like how you can't format a large partition using FAT32 under Windows. It's entirely arbitrary, to "encourage" (ie: force) people to use NTFS. Completely coincidentally, NTFS is only really supported under Windows.
Arbitrary restrictions are always about money. ALWAYS.
Atleast 95% of the abused children are abused by someone they know well, the "don't talk to strangers" thing doesn't really make much sense.
Probably higher than 95%.
In an ethics class a few years ago, a female student was arguing for the presence of cameras in public. Her line of reasoning was "well, they help to keep me safe".
I asked her to consider domestic violence (especially murder) statistics. I then asked her if she's like the police to monitor her bedroom every night. She didn't know quite what to say to that.
Fact of the matter is, any parent using the "think of the children" argument is a complete and utter idiot. If we REALLY cared about children's well-being, they'd all be taken away from the parents at birth, and never allowed to see family members again. Pretty stupid knee-jerk idea, right?
A news story earlier this year was talking about the number of child abductions in Canada. There are thousands, maybe tens of thousands. The number of children abducted by a stranger?
5.
Horrible, tragic, and I do agree this number should be zero. However, if we REALLY "think of the children", we'd do a lot more to work to reduce the thousands than the 5. Seems to me we don't.
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What IS that??
Eh? You still can. Or at least, you still can here in Australia.
... sorta.
...
Eh. You can here in Canada, too
You can get either the cheapest POS with low battery life, hardly any screen, and shit reception - or you can get a colour LCD (external also for the flip phones), 75 utilities no one uses, a ton of content that you pay for dearly, a camera, annyoing ringtones...
I had an LG 4600. Damn near the perfect phone. No stupid camera, nice external OLED screen, lasted for days. Best flip phone ever - and I hated flips until this thing. It broke, and now I can't find ANYTHING with an external screen that doesn't come with a camera and takes 15 clicks to do anything within the menu because there are 1800 options buried. Oh, and all the external screens are LCD, so they're impossible to read outside.
Phones simply suck. I'm a big fan of the iPod model of marketing, where there's basic-better-even better-best-holy shit. With phones, it's all or nothing.
you don't actually need to buy a new phone, you know - the old ones still work
With the average cellphone lasting maybe 2-3 years max, yeah. Right. These things are built like crap. And I'm one of the more gentle people I know when it comes to gadgets.
I'll preface this by stating that I'm a Canuck. I started drinking when I was 12 years old, and it wasn't a once a year thing at that age, if you know what I mean. By the time I was 18 I was regularly putting away 15-20 drinks in an evening (think about 4 hours at a bar). I had one hell of a tolerance.
.08 it's almost universally recognized that you have suffered enough impairment to your judgement that you should not be driving.
.08 is way too low, you're fooling yourself. Check the research sometime. Oh, and so you know, there are some provinces here that will impound your car for 24 hours if you're over .05. I wouldn't suggest coming to visit if you feel you simply must drive after 1-2 drinks :)
There is a WIDE range between falling down drunk and totally sober. You think you know your own limits, and well, sorry, but you don't. Hardly anyone that thinks they can drink and drive does. There's an amazing correlation between people who won't drink and drive, and those that notice the effects of small amounts of alcohol. Most people simply ignore the early stages, but fortunately we can test things like reaction time in the lab. See, individual people will get to a certain BAC with different amounts of alcohol, sure. That's "body chemistry", better known as metabolism. However, at
You may not like this personally. You may think there's a societal need for drinking and driving. We used to, too, until we were at the point where our Grade 12 yearbooks had 2 pages reserved at the end for "in memoriums". I went to a high school of about 400 students and we'd lose an average of 4-5 every year due to drinking and driving.
I can tell you that I've spent 18 years of my life drinking very regularly, and I've never driven after drinking, without a sleep first. It's perfectly normal here to actually be responsible with other people's lives, and not drink on a date or at a business function. Actually, it's much like smoking, where there's a growing stigma against getting behind the wheel saying "I'm still OK" - because we're realizing more and more that people aren't.
I've been to the southern US a few times, and believe me, you folks don't drink like we do. I remember seeing a scandalous news report about young college kids drinking (prepare yourself) 80 proof liquor, straight! Yeah, it's called a shooter. We start them around age 14 here. It's funny too, because I've been to LA before the open liquor laws. Driving around getting drunk.. weee! But people really didn't drink all that much, and maybe this is why it's more tolerated.
Anyway, if you think
Every once in a while, a spelling error comes along that makes me chuckle.
:)
This time, it's an error that actually corrects the original mispelling of a word.
Kool.
If you're ever hooked up a DVD player (well, 99% of them anyway), satellite receiver, or modern video game console, you know what a composite cable is.
It's the one that plugs into the yellow "video" port on your TV. Believe me, most people know what this is. They may not know the name for it, but RF/coax-only hookups are going the way of the dodo. In fact, many new TVs don't even have them.
Sad, because I still have a lot of older game consoles that only output that way, without some major modifications.
Tell that to the tens of millions of Yankees fans over the past few seasons.
Or, to bring it to the basketball world, the people who cheered Jordan and the Bulls throughout the 90s. Or the Lakers before that.
Don't kid yourself, EVERYONE cheers for the upperdog. We all want to back the winning horse. This is why election results aren't made public before polling stations are closed (well, at least in civilized countries), otherwise a huge chunk of people would end up voting for whoever's in the lead from the start.
Firstly, anyone who knowingly is driving under the influence deserves to be removed from our society. Period. If you're driving, DON'T DRINK. If you're so collosally stupid as to not be able to plan ahead in your life, take a cab. If you can't handle such trivial responsibility as this, you have no business in my world.
.08, but to get there initially is far more than a single drink). Anyone who doesn't feel any effect from 2 or 3 drinks either is a fool, or drinks far too much to begin with. Believe me, I've been a heavy drinker in the past, and I STILL got a good buzz from 3 beer.
Secondly, anyone giving advice on how to "beat" the system on a DWI, you're pretty much as useful as a person in category #1.
Thirdly, up here in Canada most provinces will charge you with the equivalent of DWI if you refuse to take a breathalyzer test.
I just don't get why people still try to push the limit with drinking and driving. For most people, legally impaired (.08 in most areas) means you've had 2 or 3 drinks in the recent past (the one drink per hour rule is to *maintain* a BAC of
It frightens me just how much violence Europe has experienced over the centuries. Considering how relatively peaceful North America has been for the past century or so, it REALLY frightens me to imagine the US finally becoming a bit too aggressive towards its northern neighbour.
If I learn nothing else from history, it's to be afraid of the future.
you will never get quite the same diversity of smells as you will from rolling around in a pig sty compared to walking down the street. Your point?
If you're trying to research smells, rolling around in a pig sty would be a very good thing. Especially if you're looking at more than just the average, boring smells that everyone walking down the street has.
Wikipedia is very far removed from a normal encyclopedia, and this is its STRENGTH.
I've done some high altitude work as well in the Rockies. Not quite 14,000', but still very noticable.
The difference is, you're CLIMBING. Exerting yourself. Using up a hell of a lot more oxygen than normal. Altitude hits you very hard when you're doing any sort of exercise. Sitting in a train and experiencing low air pressure is much like being on an airplane - you don't even notice it, because you're barely moving.
I've never taken a barometric altimeter on a commercialized flight, but I do know this: while they are pressurized, they're nowhere close to sea level air pressure (anyone know what the equivalent altitude would be, btw?). I've seen people get dizzy after one too many trips to the bathroom, but generally no one notices as you're sitting down and hardly moving at all.
People who live close to sea level can get dizzy and out of breath simply walking at 5,000'. Let them sit down for a while, and they're fine. I've done 10-11,000' many times with people who are otherwise unused to it, and while they may stuggle a lot going up, they're almost always fine once they reach the top and have a chance to relax.
there are hundreds of ways to do this with Firefox as well, no doubt, but for some reason this story made "news."
/., but Firefox is routinely given a pass
:)
Microsoft is given absolutely no quarter on
Thank you for proving my point so eloquently
1. A bug is found in Microsoft software that allows remote execution of code on your machine, without user intervention.
2. Story is posted on Slashdot.
3. People rightly comment on it.
Show me the stories of bugs that simply crash IE. Really. I'm curious. Because there are literally hundreds of ways to crash IE with a malformed webpage. These don't make it as Slashdot stories. Pretty much the only vulnerabilities in MS software posted here are ones that allow an attacker to actually DO SOMETHING NASTY.
Contrast this with OSS, where we post every single meaningless bug in a piece of software, even if it has hardly any practical effect.
If anything, the double standard is that we're far more critical of OSS here than MS.
You must be new here.
No, really.
Oddly enough, I used to own several dozen pet rats. Due to the fact that you can't properly tell their sex until well after they're fertile, they ended up numbering in the hundreds. Never shared with 'em, though, the poor bastards :)
I bought my ze4200 back in April 2003. Best computer I've ever owned, incidentally (full Linux support on everything), except for the lack of USB 2. Oh well, at least it has firewire.
Anyway, just pulled my battery out to check on this recall, and yeah, not covered. However, I've never experienced any issues with overheating at all. I use it almost 99% of the time plugged in, as I'm not often far from a power outlet, so it doesn't often have a chance to lose charge. It still holds a 2+ hour charge, which is what it did originally (basically a full-length movie). It may be a bit less now but 10-20% tops.
Mind sharing what HP told you re: the BIOS etc? I was a bit disappointed that my battery wasn't covered by this recall (hey, FREE NEW BATTERY!), but still... maybe mine is set up differently.. HP vs Compaq etc. The bar code on mine is 2003/02/05a62202, btw.
I'm pretty sure games like Halo are a direct result of games going mainstream already.
I'll go out on a limb here, but I'm willing to bet that someone who uses the phrase "half-penguin/half-sheep" isn't actually willing to see anything completely non-biased.
Well, I can't speak as to browser plugins, as that's a tough nut to crack for any OS (although there are better solutions than Active-X out there).
I can speak, however, for worms. Microsoft could easily fix this problem within the OS itself - don't listen on a bunch of ports by default. In fact, listen on none. A desktop is not a server, and any server can have ports opened AS NEEDED. You know, like when a service is actually turned on or installed.
Bam. No need for a software firewall. Worms stop spreading overnight.
Actually, the issue is that GOVERNMENTS are doing things to restrict people's freedoms. Myanmar being run by a GOVERNMENT and all.
There's no double standard here at all. Those of us that don't enjoy OUR government restricting our freedom also don't enjoy OTHER governments restricting other people's freedoms. Those entities that enable governments to restrict freedom are just as bad as the governments themselves.
It's a pretty consistent worldview, if you think about it. It's much easier to rant about Slashdot's double standards, I realize.
I can't believe that the posters are not able to see the difference
It's not a matter of if they're able. It's just far more fun to take any issue, no matter how unrelated, and twist it into "open source is as evil, and certainly no better than everything else".
Witness the continual stream of posts to the effect of "if P2P is good, why are GPL violations bad?", "no operating system is perfect" (usually prefaced by "if Linux had xx% market share", "if Microsoft is held liable for bugs, so should OSS authors", and "Apple has a monopoly on mp3 players/they bundle Quicktime", all being modded up highly. Oh yeah, and for an extra mod point or two, the accusation of "Slashdot bias!!!". Yup, a bias that consistently works in reverse.
There's some intense hatred for OSS (and anything non-mainstream) on Slashdot lately. The tinfoil hat part of me would ascribe it to astroturfing/shilling, but quite frankly most of it is so juvenile that I usually write it off to "stop making me think outside of the box". I can't speak for most people online, but those I know offline usually feel pretty intimidated by OSS ideas. Linux is too hard to learn/use (makes them feel inferior), and the general OSS philosophy is just too different from how the rest of the world works. Ergo, attack anything and anyone related to it, because it's too hard to understand or accept.
groupthink around here holds religion to be bad
Just the educated groups. Don't worry, another couple of centuries and we'll finally stop believing in astrology.
Groupthink still holds to the belief that conservatives believe Sadam Hussein bombed the WTC.
No, just that your president believes this. Or used to, anyway, based on the things he said leading up to Gulf War 2. I don't think he does any longer, but now that he's created Vietnam 2, I'm not sure exactly WHAT he could be thinking.
The funny thing is, I've seen people actually claim that Vietnam was anything but a complete and utter disaster. Pretty soon we're going to be hearing "we need to stay in Iraq, because look what happened after the liberals made us leave Vietnam".
I'm surprised at how often I see the word "liberal" used as a slur/insult.
I really don't get it. A "liberal-minded" person is an open-minded and tolerant person. This is a bad thing why?
Sometimes it seems like my parents have invaded Slashdot. Damn hippies, why can't they just think/act/dress the same as I do?
For the record, I'm a Canuck. I absolutely loathe our Liberal party here, because they don't strike me as particularly "liberal", except when they're helping themselves to "liberal" amounts of my taxes. In fact, I'd consider myself a pretty right-wing person - except for some reason these days that means I have to hate homosexuals, and demand the Bible be taught in school.
Well, his nickname is erroneous, after all...
So you can pay for a "better" version if you want more RAM, duh! :)
Kinda like how you can't format a large partition using FAT32 under Windows. It's entirely arbitrary, to "encourage" (ie: force) people to use NTFS. Completely coincidentally, NTFS is only really supported under Windows.
Arbitrary restrictions are always about money. ALWAYS.
Atleast 95% of the abused children are abused by someone they know well, the "don't talk to strangers" thing doesn't really make much sense.
Probably higher than 95%.
In an ethics class a few years ago, a female student was arguing for the presence of cameras in public. Her line of reasoning was "well, they help to keep me safe".
I asked her to consider domestic violence (especially murder) statistics. I then asked her if she's like the police to monitor her bedroom every night. She didn't know quite what to say to that.
Fact of the matter is, any parent using the "think of the children" argument is a complete and utter idiot. If we REALLY cared about children's well-being, they'd all be taken away from the parents at birth, and never allowed to see family members again. Pretty stupid knee-jerk idea, right?
A news story earlier this year was talking about the number of child abductions in Canada. There are thousands, maybe tens of thousands. The number of children abducted by a stranger?
5.
Horrible, tragic, and I do agree this number should be zero. However, if we REALLY "think of the children", we'd do a lot more to work to reduce the thousands than the 5. Seems to me we don't.