Microsoft and Citrix came late to the thin client market with proprietary offerings that don't make too much sense to me financially, in terms of long term market viability, or in terms of performance.
Rather than investing a lot in ICA and RDP-based clients, I think companies should invest in thin clients that are based on open, well-documented standards like HTTP, HTML, XML, and Java.
The sad thing is that we are living in a Windows desktop world. You can't run Word and Solitaire in web pages.
The interesting part is that Citrix is making ICA servers for *nix - and clients for most platforms out there. Those of you that bothered to read the Finding of Fact knows that MS' most important tactic has been to maintain a high application barrier to entry. If you can run X/*nix applications just as easy as Win* applications you remove (most of) that barrier. Check it out
Unfortunately, this is just going to replace the Win32 API monopoly with an ICA monopoly.
Non-regional DVD players cost a bundle, but they're there.
Not legally. The licence that DVDCCA require you to sign has a bunch of clauses, one of which is that you have to follow their region locking scheme.
That is, btw, generating a problem for HW manufacturers today. DVDCCA changed the scheme some time ago, and require the HW manufacturers to change their products or loose the license.
See http://www.dvdcca.org/dvdcca/rpc.html for details.
Microsoft has NEVER prevented anyone from making a compatible system
If that was true, the DOJ would have no case. To gain a monopoly, or near-monopoly, in a market is not illegal in itself. To use that power to kill competition in the marketplace is something else. If the DOJ can't prove that Microsoft's actions have harmed consumers, they have no case.
It seems, from reading the Finding-of-facts, that it is very likely that they do have a case.
I'll give you a couple of hints. OS/2 for Windows, WABI and DR-DOS.
I would feel sorry for the thousands of employees, the foundations that Gates supports
That is a circle argument. That a given industry employ a lot of people does not automatically mean that the industry is needed, or even beneficial for the society as a whole.
For example, the tobacco industry employs a lot of people. That does not mean, however, that the industry is beneficial does it?
If I tell them "hey, let's use Linux, it is [insert your favorite advantage here]", I can back it up, since I know NT4 in & out and can show it to those guys with my cert. That sounds familiar. After changing jobs to a 100% Linux shop, the certificate is gathering dust on the Wall of Shame though. (ever taken that damned IEAK test?) Good skills in memorizing matrixes and a thorough understanding of MS marketing are essential for passing that one.:)
switch is generally some combination of a router and a bridge
A switch has got nothing to do with routers.
Routers work on layer 3 of the ISO model (i.e. ip adresses).
Switches and bridges are layer 2 devices. They look at the MAC adresses. A basic bridge has got two ethernet ports. By listening to the network traffic, it builds a table of which MAC adresses are connected to which port. It then forwards packets between the segments. A switch works the same way, by building a list of MAC adresses per port and then forwarding packets.
You may have heard about something called a "layer 3 switch", which is just a marketing term for routers with some (or all) routing logic implemented in hardware instead of software.
You say about 1/3 of the test is advertising. I have at this point taken 5 of the tests and have yet to see anything to the effect that "netbuei is better" or "buy microsoft".
Ah. You have not taken the IEAK test yet, I presume.
I know it's a different architecture - does that really make a difference
You're kidding, right? Comparing two completely different engine designs on RPM only is flawed.
You have to consider stuff like different instruction sets, different instruction timing, different pipelining, memory system bandwith, latency and cache design.
The problem is that the demand for admins is higher than the supply. MS is very good at telling ties that MCP/MCSEs are highly qualified, while at the same time pushing their certifications to the masses - "get certified and double your salary". The result? A lot of MCP/MCSEs with little or no real-world experience.
The ViRGE/MX, which is afaik just a laptop version of the/GX2. The utah-glx project contains early alpha support for the ViRGE line of cards. It works, but it's not exactly what you'd want to play Quake3 on.
The mobile savage line is more interesting if you're after 3D speed on the laptop. Savage/MX and/IX. Check out the preview on SharkyExtreme.
ATI also has a couple, the latest being the Rage Mobility 128.
I can answer that question for you. The Norwegian Parliament doesn't bug into police affairs. The case was brought before the parliament - with requests to review the laws. Not to comment on the specific case.
That is correct.
The parliament can not interfere with police work. The parliament, or at least a substantial number of its members, are however aware of the issues at hand here. The result is hopefully that they get their ass in motion and make a decent update of the laws.
The minister of culture did however imply that they probably would use the EU directive that is currently being hashed out as a guide. I'm not really sure if that's good or bad.
The thing that made Arexx great, was that almost all Amiga programs exposed their functions to the script language (called an Arexx port).
Thus, you could script almost anything.
Both KDE and GNOME are working on doing more or less the same thing through CORBA. A CORBAized LinOpus with general script language bindings would rock.
This is the top item on my (now rather short) "nifty things I miss when using Linux" list.
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Microsoft and Citrix came late to the thin client market with proprietary offerings that don't make too much sense to me financially, in terms of long term market viability, or in terms of performance.
Rather than investing a lot in ICA and RDP-based clients, I think companies should invest in thin clients that are based on open, well-documented standards like HTTP, HTML, XML, and Java.
The sad thing is that we are living in a Windows desktop world. You can't run Word and Solitaire in web pages.
The interesting part is that Citrix is making ICA servers for *nix - and clients for most platforms out there. Those of you that bothered to read the Finding of Fact knows that MS' most important tactic has been to maintain a high application barrier to entry. If you can run X/*nix applications just as easy as Win* applications you remove (most of) that barrier. Check it out
Unfortunately, this is just going to replace the Win32 API monopoly with an ICA monopoly.
Non-regional DVD players cost a bundle, but they're there.
Not legally. The licence that DVDCCA require you to sign has a bunch of clauses, one of which is that you have to follow their region locking scheme.
That is, btw, generating a problem for HW manufacturers today. DVDCCA changed the scheme some time ago, and require the HW manufacturers to change their products or loose the license.
See http://www.dvdcca.org/dvdcca/rpc.html for details.
I especially liked "A Stranger in a Strange Land"
Yeah. Now we are trying to keep strangers *out* of our LANs instead.
Being a monopoly is NOT, i repeat NOT, against the law
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I've read most of the articles in this thread, and I can't remember seeing anyone seriously claming that being a monopoly is against the law.
When you all wake up and enter the real business world and actually have to do some real work to support yourselves
Some of us does. Some of us still think that MS has stepped over the line a few times too many.
MS should be fined or penalized otherwise, but should they be completely shut down?
Oh yeah, I can see it now:
Judge Jackson: "Shame on you, MS. Be gone!"
MicroSoft: *poof*
Get a grip on reality, would you?
try to think of this situation happening to Redhat or Caldera or even Sun
If any of them had acted the same way as MS, they would have been ripped apart on
Microsoft has NEVER prevented anyone from making a compatible system
If that was true, the DOJ would have no case. To gain a monopoly, or near-monopoly, in a market is not illegal in itself. To use that power to kill competition in the marketplace is something else. If the DOJ can't prove that Microsoft's actions have harmed consumers, they have no case.
It seems, from reading the Finding-of-facts, that it is very likely that they do have a case.
I'll give you a couple of hints. OS/2 for Windows, WABI and DR-DOS.
I would feel sorry for the thousands of employees, the foundations that Gates supports
That is a circle argument. That a given industry employ a lot of people does not automatically mean that the industry is needed, or even beneficial for the society as a whole.
For example, the tobacco industry employs a lot of people. That does not mean, however, that the industry is beneficial does it?
Personally, I just can't wait for the first "Poltergeist" virus to appear. :)
It's possible that the design of a component, while workable, is so bad as to be potentially embarrassing.
:)
S3 Savage 3?
If I tell them "hey, let's use Linux, it is [insert your favorite advantage here]", I can back it up, since I know NT4 in & out and can show it to those guys with my cert. That sounds familiar. After changing jobs to a 100% Linux shop, the certificate is gathering dust on the Wall of Shame though. (ever taken that damned IEAK test?) Good skills in memorizing matrixes and a thorough understanding of MS marketing are essential for passing that one. :)
switch is generally some combination of a router and a bridge
A switch has got nothing to do with routers.
Routers work on layer 3 of the ISO model (i.e. ip adresses).
Switches and bridges are layer 2 devices. They look at the MAC adresses. A basic bridge has got two ethernet ports. By listening to the network traffic, it builds a table of which MAC adresses are connected to which port. It then forwards packets between the segments. A switch works the same way, by building a list of MAC adresses per port and then forwarding packets.
You may have heard about something called a "layer 3 switch", which is just a marketing term for routers with some (or all) routing logic implemented in hardware instead of software.
And that's supposed to be the hardest of the lot.
If you have only been exposed to MS networking, and never touched a router or *nix then it probably is tough.
If you know your TCP/IP well you can read your way through Networking Essentials, MS TCP/IP, MS Proxy server and IIS4 in a few days.
If you don't have much experience with NT, then NT Workstation, Server and Server Enterprise will be a bit tougher.
1) How do you set up SMB network browsing in a multi-domain environment?
You're right. I've not seen that one.
2) What is the proper way to design WINS replication?
Yup. Had at least a couple of those in scenario questions. Think it was in the NT Enterprise or in the MS TCP/IP test.
3) How do you restore the MS DHCP database in a recovery situation?
Pretty sure I ran into that one. It was at least covered in one of the exam preps.
One thing I miss on the exams, though, is questions about how to properly tune an NT network in a ISDN dialup WAN.
You say about 1/3 of the test is advertising. I have at this point taken 5 of the tests and have yet to see anything to the effect that "netbuei is better" or "buy microsoft".
Ah. You have not taken the IEAK test yet, I presume.
I know it's a different architecture - does that really make a difference
You're kidding, right? Comparing two completely different engine designs on RPM only is flawed.
You have to consider stuff like different instruction sets, different instruction timing, different pipelining, memory system bandwith, latency and cache design.
Cisco has used a lot of different CPUs in their boxes. The older ones are not exactly blindingly fast.
7[67]x series - i386@25MHz
100x series - 68360@? (embedded Moto w/68020 core)
160x series - 68360@33MHz
25xx series - 68030@20MHz
A Cisco 1601 is in other words not exactly what you want if you require IPSec and NAT over a T1.
The newer low-end routers are better, though:
80x series - MPC850@33MHz (embedded PPC)
17xx series - MPC860@?
26xx series - MPC860@40/50MHz
A "wimpy pentium" does not really have anything to be ashamed of compared to what is inside lower-end access routers.
As an ex NT admin, I take offense to that. :)
The problem is that the demand for admins is higher than the supply. MS is very good at telling ties that MCP/MCSEs are highly qualified, while at the same time pushing their certifications to the masses - "get certified and double your salary". The result? A lot of MCP/MCSEs with little or no real-world experience.
WHY ????
Umm.. Lots of reasons.
Educating yourself.
Building a (safer) firewall.
Making a customized "server appliance".
Happy, happy. Joy, joy.
Wave the mknod goodbye.
S3 makes a couple of them.
/GX2. The utah-glx project contains early alpha support for the ViRGE line of cards. It works, but it's not exactly what you'd want to play Quake3 on.
/IX. Check out the preview on SharkyExtreme.
The ViRGE/MX, which is afaik just a laptop version of the
The mobile savage line is more interesting if you're after 3D speed on the laptop. Savage/MX and
ATI also has a couple, the latest being the Rage Mobility 128.
I'd second that.
EFN, Hannemyr, Oegrim and others are very active in support of Jan.
That is, writing articles and sending to newspapers. Showing up on Norwegian TV. Making sure the public gets to hear our side of the story.
I'd guess that at least 40% of the norwegian population support him, and this number is going to increase.
I'd second that.
EFN, Hannemyr, Oegrim and others are very active in support of Jan.
That is, writing articles and sending to newspapers. Showing up on Norwegian TV. Making sure the public gets to hear our side of the story.
Are "Shrink wrap" agreements enforcable in your country
That is yet to be decided. Our laws are lagging behind. Reverse engineering for the purpose of interoperability is explicitly allowed.
We do not, however, have any court rulings regarding the validity of EULAs.
Which is why this is a very important case, not only for Jon but for the software industry in Norway as a whole.
I can answer that question for you. The Norwegian Parliament doesn't bug into police affairs. The case was brought before the parliament - with requests to review the laws. Not to comment on the specific case.
That is correct.
The parliament can not interfere with police work. The parliament, or at least a substantial number of its members, are however aware of the issues at hand here. The result is hopefully that they get their ass in motion and make a decent update of the laws.
The minister of culture did however imply that they probably would use the EU directive that is currently being hashed out as a guide. I'm not really sure if that's good or bad.
REXX was a standard scriptiong language, dude.
The thing that made Arexx great, was that almost all Amiga programs exposed their functions to the script language (called an Arexx port).
Thus, you could script almost anything.
Both KDE and GNOME are working on doing more or less the same thing through CORBA. A CORBAized LinOpus with general script language bindings would rock.
This is the top item on my (now rather short) "nifty things I miss when using Linux" list.
As an Amiga old-timer I would love to see DOpus ported to Linux.
I am however not much of a programmer, but I'd be happy to help out in other ways. That is, $ and/or debugging.
Journalists are generally somewhat reasonable people.
A calm email that explains what this is all about, and a URL or two, tends to get the work done. Especially if they receive a lot of them.