This is not a troll just a question, but I fail to see a real advantage of this on the last PDA from Dell. Which does cost the same price if my memory serves Well.
The Indian Paysan with not really care if it rans Linux or not, the most important factor is the price.
> Here's one good reason why you'd want to implement Flash instead of SVG: SVG is Slooow.
I am not sure what this really means. This is like saying XML is slow, or better HTML is slow. SVG is a standard, you will have slow, and quick implementations, maybe current implementation have not been really optimised yet, but there is no real reason SVG might be intrinscly slow
When you store "something" as an integer that means that you want to perform arithmetic operations on it. I don't think that adding, or substracting phone numbers will bring you something:)
The problem in you reasoning is that in this case you can patent the implementation, it's fine with me, as long as this implementation brings something really innovative ! The real problem with software patents is that you are denied ALL the possible implementations of the patent ! so in fact a software patent is the patenting of an idea !! the USPTO has even renouced to ask for a working prototype of the patent (i.e. a working software implementation), so everyone can patent every stupid and obvious idea ! and this is what this patent is ! patenting the "idea" of plugins for a browser, while plugins existed way before that, but for other softwares. I think Lotus 123 used to have plugins back in the 80, so all this guy did, is Eureka ! I will patent this idea for a browser ! so much for an innovation. For me, this is just a typical, Internet related stupid patent, where by just adding the "Internet" magic pixie dust to it you can patent nearly everything. This is just like the guy who patent e-commerce.
This guy didn't *invent* plugin, the idea of plugin existed way before that, and if my memory serves well, Lotus 123 used to have them back in the 80 ! so what he did is just apply the "idea" to a browser, so much for an innovation. This is a typical internet related patent where you can patent everything, as long as you put the "internet" or "web" labels on it !
If my memory serves me well, Lotus 123 used to have plugin back in the 80. So what is so different between a spreadsheet and browser when it comes plugin ? following the logic if this patent you could have as many patents as kind of desktop application; i.e : word processors, games, presentation software and so on !
Exactly ! this is why http://www.linuxtv.org/ is for, these are the guys who also did http://www.directfb.org, I don't understand why they have ignored them !!
There is a simple reason to this, maybe 95% leave in the West, and maybe 50% percent of them are in the US. Yes India has indeed a sizeable number of coders but far less than the US, I guess they may be around 200 000 or 300 000, France were I leave has nearly 350 000 people who work in IT, maybe 50% or 40 % of them are coders. The US must have millions of people who workd in IT, maybe 3 or 4, sorry I dont't have hard numbers, I am quoting this from very vague memories.
MusiMoz is a really a good idea, but still not a lot of material, I really miss Audiogalaxy for discovering new music and artists. It will be intersting later to make some connection betwen p2p programs and MusicMoz when the later will really mature.
RH are already activly involved in the migration to Linux market, hence Amazon, AOL deals, for the most publicized of them. I bet they will extend slowly their offring to the pure development and integration market, like IBM Global Service, HP Service division (don't remember the name) etc.
Yes this a major concern in case of global warming, trapped methane can buble to the surface and cause a major disater, and even further enhance greenhouse effect. There is a lot of this methane all around the ocean.
Seriously, 128kbs/s is clearly different from CD quality, it's just not as brilliant, as clear, or as limpid, well you feel that there is very subtle thing missing. But you need good HIFI
Can someone explain how is that not the patenting of an idea without any regard to it's implementation. So what this patent means is that you can't create an auction system whatever your implementation is !?
I absolutly agree. This is why working on Linux is so rewarding, when you try to fix things, you always learn new things in the same time, you learn how things really work.
And Google is your friend ! There is lots and lots of information around, as there are many knowledgeable people (because of the open source nature) I nearly never had any problem I couldn't fix in Linux, I usally find the solution in just few minutes.
For the moment software patents are still not allowed in Europe. The semantic jesuitic distinction of "Patents with technical effect" has been invented for the moment (when, or if) patents will be allowed.
There is a European directive now in preparation, some battles have been lost but not the war.
I think what he is meaning by that, is the fact that patents are de facto validated in court and not by the USPTO, as the latter grants nearly every stupid and insignificant patent that comes by.
In fact nowadays you can't write a single line of code without a chance of having a stupid patent somewhere which forbid it ! this is just slightly exaggerated.
So when and (if) someone dare to sue a Linux hacker about some stupid patent, considering all the interests now in stack, you will probably have someone with deep pockets (or a big defensive patent portfolio, can you say IBM) who will jump to defend it.
I think this is the best strategy, as Linux is probably already infringing hundreds of patents, and nobody can review all the thousands patents that may apply every time he writes a single line of code, and this why patents are bad and impractical
Anyway experience has shown that 95% of the time, Linus always does the right thing , (well this is just bit exaggerated to, but not far from the truth):)
I have discovered tons of new music styles which I would have never listened to, thanks to Audiogalaxy. Man I really miss it. It seems that soulseek http://www.slsk.org is taking the torch, but it's not there yet !
Agreed, geeks are not necessarily good GUI designers, and this is what the KDE usability project is trying to solve (http://usability.kde.org). I just hope the project won't fade away.
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This is not a troll just a question, but I fail to see a real advantage of this on the last PDA from Dell. Which does cost the same price if my memory serves Well.
The Indian Paysan with not really care if it rans Linux or not, the most important factor is the price.
Then the Japanese governement might just contract someone to do it, this will not a big spending for a such huge saving !
> Here's one good reason why you'd want to implement Flash instead of SVG: SVG is Slooow.
I am not sure what this really means. This is like saying XML is slow, or better HTML is slow. SVG is a standard, you will have slow, and quick implementations, maybe current implementation have not been really optimised yet, but there is no real reason SVG might be intrinscly slow
When you store "something" as an integer that means that you want to perform arithmetic operations on it. I don't think that adding, or substracting phone numbers will bring you something :)
Oh man, thanks for the good laugh ! that was one of the funniest post I have ever read on Slashdot.
The problem in you reasoning is that in this case you can patent the implementation, it's fine with me, as long as this implementation brings something really innovative ! The real problem with software patents is that you are denied ALL the possible implementations of the patent ! so in fact a software patent is the patenting of an idea !! the USPTO has even renouced to ask for a working prototype of the patent (i.e. a working software implementation), so everyone can patent every stupid and obvious idea ! and this is what this patent is ! patenting the "idea" of plugins for a browser, while plugins existed way before that, but for other softwares. I think Lotus 123 used to have plugins back in the 80, so all this guy did, is Eureka ! I will patent this idea for a browser ! so much for an innovation. For me, this is just a typical, Internet related stupid patent, where by just adding the "Internet" magic pixie dust to it you can patent nearly everything. This is just like the guy who patent e-commerce.
This guy didn't *invent* plugin, the idea of plugin existed way before that, and if my memory serves well, Lotus 123 used to have them back in the 80 ! so what he did is just apply the "idea" to a browser, so much for an innovation. This is a typical internet related patent where you can patent everything, as long as you put the "internet" or "web" labels on it !
If my memory serves me well, Lotus 123 used to have plugin back in the 80. So what is so different between a spreadsheet and browser when it comes plugin ? following the logic if this patent you could have as many patents as kind of desktop application; i.e : word processors, games, presentation software and so on !
Poor, cute, little juge ! she doesn't know who Microsoft really is !!
I wonder who a US juge ca be so naive ! while Microsoft has a record has a history of distorting court jugement as they want !
And what the hell does this mean in plain English ?
Exactly ! this is why http://www.linuxtv.org/ is for, these are the guys who also did http://www.directfb.org, I don't understand why they have ignored them !!
> Once it become clear that the Internet would be the "one true network" Microsoft finally woke up and crushed Netscape.
And said that they have invented it !
There is a simple reason to this, maybe 95% leave in the West, and maybe 50% percent of them are in the US. Yes India has indeed a sizeable number of coders but far less than the US, I guess they may be around 200 000 or 300 000, France were I leave has nearly 350 000 people who work in IT, maybe 50% or 40 % of them are coders. The US must have millions of people who workd in IT, maybe 3 or 4, sorry I dont't have hard numbers, I am quoting this from very vague memories.
MusiMoz is a really a good idea, but still not a lot of material, I really miss Audiogalaxy for discovering new music and artists. It will be intersting later to make some connection betwen p2p programs and MusicMoz when the later will really mature.
RH are already activly involved in the migration to Linux market, hence Amazon, AOL deals, for the most publicized of them. I bet they will extend slowly their offring to the pure development and integration market, like IBM Global Service, HP Service division (don't remember the name) etc.
This is were the real OS/FS business will be.
Consider yourself lucky to not have posted something embarassing :)
Yes this a major concern in case of global warming, trapped methane can buble to the surface and cause a major disater, and even further enhance greenhouse effect. There is a lot of this methane all around the ocean.
Or maybe you need to see a doctor , just joking :)
Seriously, 128kbs/s is clearly different from CD quality, it's just not as brilliant, as clear, or as limpid, well you feel that there is very subtle thing missing. But you need good HIFI
Can someone explain how is that not the patenting of an idea without any regard to it's implementation. So what this patent means is that you can't create an auction system whatever your implementation is !?
Are ideas really non patentables ?
I absolutly agree. This is why working on Linux is so rewarding, when you try to fix things, you always learn new things in the same time, you learn how things really work.
And Google is your friend ! There is lots and lots of information around, as there are many knowledgeable people (because of the open source nature) I nearly never had any problem I couldn't fix in Linux, I usally find the solution in just few minutes.
For the moment software patents are still not allowed in Europe. The semantic jesuitic distinction of "Patents with technical effect" has been invented for the moment (when, or if) patents will be allowed.
There is a European directive now in preparation, some battles have been lost but not the war.
I think what he is meaning by that, is the fact that patents are de facto validated in court and not by the USPTO, as the latter grants nearly every stupid and insignificant patent that comes by.
:)
In fact nowadays you can't write a single line of code without a chance of having a stupid patent somewhere which forbid it ! this is just slightly exaggerated.
So when and (if) someone dare to sue a Linux hacker about some stupid patent, considering all the interests now in stack, you will probably have someone with deep pockets (or a big defensive patent portfolio, can you say IBM) who will jump to defend it.
I think this is the best strategy, as Linux is probably already infringing hundreds of patents, and nobody can review all the thousands patents that may apply every time he writes a single line of code, and this why patents are bad and impractical
Anyway experience has shown that 95% of the time, Linus always does the right thing , (well this is just bit exaggerated to, but not far from the truth)
I have discovered tons of new music styles which I would have never listened to, thanks to Audiogalaxy. Man I really miss it. It seems that soulseek http://www.slsk.org is taking the torch, but it's not there yet !
Agreed, geeks are not necessarily good GUI designers, and this is what the KDE usability project is trying to solve (http://usability.kde.org). I just hope the project won't fade away.
As he is only 35 which is really really young for a such distinction