More likely it will just inspire them to file a lawsuit against LucasFanGames. It didn't even take actual copyright violation for them to threaten the makers of ScummVM.
LucasArts management is far too arrogant to admit that they made a mistake with the cancellation of Sam & Max: Freelance Police.
Well if someone wants go to a sidewalk in new york and tell his political views to people walking buy he is free to do so.
Actually, there's a point at which it goes from "free speech" to "harassment". Moreover, if said someone enters private property and appropriates resources that they don't own to make their point, then they've trespassed and stolen.
The "consent" factor is an issue because spammers are foisting the cost of accepting unsolicited advertising onto computer equipment that they do not own without the consent of the owners.
Spammers are just people looking to make money. Yes their tactics are slimey
You misspelled "criminal".
How is banning SPAM any different than banning VoIP (see earlier article).
Well, there is the whole "consent" issue.
How is it different from criticizing politicians?
Again, that "consent" issue. That is, spam is forcing unwanted advertising onto someone, who then has to pay to receive the unsolicited advertising. I don't see how that compares at all to VoIP or criticizing a politician.
Sounds like you're just ranting and whining because you don't actually have a real argument against outlawing the theft of service and trespass to chattel that is email spamming.
everytime i go to the movies, i am forced to sit through an endless parade of coca-cola commercials, wasting my valuable time ($time == $money).
You are at the theater as a privledge of the theater owners allowing you to be there. They set the terms for what gets shown on their screens, as they own the screens. If you do not like what they show, then you don't have to pay for their services. When you own the movie theater screens, you will have the right to dictate what is shown on them.
cellphone companies force stuff on you that you dont want.
Such as expensive contract options that you will never use? Again, it's their service. If you don't like what they're trying to give them, don't use their service. Ultimately, they own the equipment, so they get to make the rules.
doctors' offices do it. that is the nature of capitalism.
Once again, you don't own the doctors' offices. The stuff that you see there is only there because the doctors who run the offices allow it.
Email spam is forced upon mail admins who own the equipment but who do not want the spam there. Thus they are forced to pay for advertising on their own personal equipment that they specifically do not want. It would be like if someone erected a billboard on your property without your permission, and then charged you for the materials and labour.
my suggestion (in the last two posts) is that there is a BIGGGGG gray area in any sector of employment.. including spam.
There is no gray area in spam. Spam is theft. Spammers are theives.
many people who are total dirtbags, but also many who are just average joes who are too stupid to see the harm, turn a blind eye, or maybe just don't feel that it is harmful.
Cry me a fucking river. Some people are too mentally retarded to understand that murder is harmful. That does not make it any better if they kill people.
much in the same way if you willingly have a public email account, you willingly subject yourself to their emails, much like i willingly subject myself to crappy advertising just so i can see Kill Bill v2. now, i could come into the movie 10 minutes late and hope i sit down at the right exact moment and get a good seat, much like you coul configure spam assasin, or use an ISP that has built in spam filtering.
The difference here is that the advertisements you see before Kill Bill Vol 2 are there at the discretion and with the full permission of the theater owners. The unsolicited junk email in your public email account was not authorized by the owner(s) of the mailserver, even though they still have to pay to process and store the crap.
Your analogy would only be valid if advertisers snuck into theaters and illegally spliced their advertisements into the reels.
my suggestion (in the first post) was that if this is "such a bad thing" and divergent somehow from other forms of unwanted advertising, gimmicks, etc.. then we DO need laws to illegalize it, otherwise it IS NOT seperated from any other form of advertising.
You know, we have laws against junk faxing. We have those laws because junk faxes impose an unsolicited cost upon the receipient. The same argument could be made for making laws against email spamming.
Unfortunately, we either need to find a way to bribe Congress with more money than the DMA can provide, or find a way to execute everyone in the DMA to ever get something like that to pass (I personally find the latter more appealing, YMMV).
my suggestion (in the first post) was that if this is "such a bad thing" and divergent somehow from other forms of unwanted advertising, gimmicks, etc.. then we DO need laws to illegalize it, otherwise it IS NOT seperated from any other form of advertising.
I hold telemarkters in disdain as well. Not as much as I do email spammers, but I still despise them.
my suggestion (or suspeicion?) was that if spam is p
Spammers send unsolicited cost-shifted advertising. That is, they force unwanted, unsolicited advertising messages onto people who have to pay to receive the unsolicited, unwanted advertisements.
Please tell me what is "legitimate" about such a thing. Please tell me how "honest-minded" people would do such a thing.
Spammers are all, by their very nature, sociopaths and criminals. They were pulling illegal stunts like this well before CAN-SPAM, which barely does anything to spam as it is. Look up Parker v. CN Enterprises/Nowak
Spammers are scum, every one of them. They know that their intrusions are unwanted, so even without antispam laws they will try to hide their acts of theft and trespass through phony names and email addresses.
He was jailed because he stole someone's identity, not because he spammed. 7 years is the maximum sentence for identity theft, which he received as a result of having a prior felony conviction.
Let this be a lesson to us all: Spammers are all, without exception, CRIMINALS. The would would be a much better place if each and every email spammer were to receive a lead pellet injected into their skull at high velocity.
Even in the arcade it only takes a few pounds of pressure to activate one of the four sensors under each arrow.
I have the Dreamcast version,with offical Dreamcast pads. It takes much less than 'a few pounds of pressure'. So much less that I often screw up songs because arrows get 'hit' when I'm not touching them.
Apparently they haven't been turning a blind eye to the problem after all.
Yes, yes they have. They ignore complaints. If they weren't turning a blind eye to the problem, it wouldn't be necessary to totally block Comcast's IP space on mail filters.
They have the ability to take action when they receive abuse reports regarding zombie machines. They have thus far done nothing. It seems as though the volume of users bitching about being firewalled from the rest of the 'net as a result of their ISP's total inaction has finally reached a critical point.
Aww, what's the matter, Snotty? Are you shocked that your acts of theft, trespass and harassment have fostered ill will against you? Are you pissing your pants because there are people who actually want to give you what you deserve? Are you still such an arrogant shit that you see fit to sue Spamcop when they've done nothing wrong?
I guess now it makes it easy to tell the "good" spammers from the "bad" spammers right?
Good point. With this, we will be able to determine which spammers are to be slowly tortured to death and which should simply receive a bullet in the brain.
Hey, if the Republic and Jedi council are dumb enough not to realise what is happening under their noses for twenty years, then I can believe that Darth Vader is too stupid to check the most obvious hiding spots.
Anyway, that might hold true for Tattooine, which has had its Dark Side aura for thousands of years, but if what I heard about Dagobah is correct, it gets its Dark Side aura as a result of Yoda downing a Dark Jedi (Tyrannus?) there, meaning that Anakin/Vader might not be privy to the knowledge.
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They have 'blue skin' in the graphically updated PC version of the game.
Or are you saying that there's an explanation for it?
More likely it will just inspire them to file a lawsuit against LucasFanGames. It didn't even take actual copyright violation for them to threaten the makers of ScummVM.
LucasArts management is far too arrogant to admit that they made a mistake with the cancellation of Sam & Max: Freelance Police.
Well most people that send email don't get consent first.
Not everyone asks to send business-related faxes. Nonetheless, junk faxes are illegal because they are a cost-shifted form of advertising.
Well if someone wants go to a sidewalk in new york and tell his political views to people walking buy he is free to do so.
Actually, there's a point at which it goes from "free speech" to "harassment". Moreover, if said someone enters private property and appropriates resources that they don't own to make their point, then they've trespassed and stolen.
The "consent" factor is an issue because spammers are foisting the cost of accepting unsolicited advertising onto computer equipment that they do not own without the consent of the owners.
Spammers are just people looking to make money. Yes their tactics are slimey
You misspelled "criminal".
How is banning SPAM any different than banning VoIP (see earlier article).
Well, there is the whole "consent" issue.
How is it different from criticizing politicians?
Again, that "consent" issue. That is, spam is forcing unwanted advertising onto someone, who then has to pay to receive the unsolicited advertising. I don't see how that compares at all to VoIP or criticizing a politician.
Sounds like you're just ranting and whining because you don't actually have a real argument against outlawing the theft of service and trespass to chattel that is email spamming.
everytime i go to the movies, i am forced to sit through an endless parade of coca-cola commercials, wasting my valuable time ($time == $money).
You are at the theater as a privledge of the theater owners allowing you to be there. They set the terms for what gets shown on their screens, as they own the screens. If you do not like what they show, then you don't have to pay for their services. When you own the movie theater screens, you will have the right to dictate what is shown on them.
cellphone companies force stuff on you that you dont want.
Such as expensive contract options that you will never use? Again, it's their service. If you don't like what they're trying to give them, don't use their service. Ultimately, they own the equipment, so they get to make the rules.
doctors' offices do it. that is the nature of capitalism.
Once again, you don't own the doctors' offices. The stuff that you see there is only there because the doctors who run the offices allow it.
Email spam is forced upon mail admins who own the equipment but who do not want the spam there. Thus they are forced to pay for advertising on their own personal equipment that they specifically do not want. It would be like if someone erected a billboard on your property without your permission, and then charged you for the materials and labour.
my suggestion (in the last two posts) is that there is a BIGGGGG gray area in any sector of employment.. including spam.
There is no gray area in spam. Spam is theft. Spammers are theives.
many people who are total dirtbags, but also many who are just average joes who are too stupid to see the harm, turn a blind eye, or maybe just don't feel that it is harmful.
Cry me a fucking river. Some people are too mentally retarded to understand that murder is harmful. That does not make it any better if they kill people.
much in the same way if you willingly have a public email account, you willingly subject yourself to their emails, much like i willingly subject myself to crappy advertising just so i can see Kill Bill v2. now, i could come into the movie 10 minutes late and hope i sit down at the right exact moment and get a good seat, much like you coul configure spam assasin, or use an ISP that has built in spam filtering.
The difference here is that the advertisements you see before Kill Bill Vol 2 are there at the discretion and with the full permission of the theater owners. The unsolicited junk email in your public email account was not authorized by the owner(s) of the mailserver, even though they still have to pay to process and store the crap.
Your analogy would only be valid if advertisers snuck into theaters and illegally spliced their advertisements into the reels.
my suggestion (in the first post) was that if this is "such a bad thing" and divergent somehow from other forms of unwanted advertising, gimmicks, etc.. then we DO need laws to illegalize it, otherwise it IS NOT seperated from any other form of advertising.
You know, we have laws against junk faxing. We have those laws because junk faxes impose an unsolicited cost upon the receipient. The same argument could be made for making laws against email spamming.
Unfortunately, we either need to find a way to bribe Congress with more money than the DMA can provide, or find a way to execute everyone in the DMA to ever get something like that to pass (I personally find the latter more appealing, YMMV).
my suggestion (in the first post) was that if this is "such a bad thing" and divergent somehow from other forms of unwanted advertising, gimmicks, etc.. then we DO need laws to illegalize it, otherwise it IS NOT seperated from any other form of advertising.
I hold telemarkters in disdain as well. Not as much as I do email spammers, but I still despise them.
my suggestion (or suspeicion?) was that if spam is p
to say that all spammers are criminals
Spammers send unsolicited cost-shifted advertising. That is, they force unwanted, unsolicited advertising messages onto people who have to pay to receive the unsolicited, unwanted advertisements.
Please tell me what is "legitimate" about such a thing. Please tell me how "honest-minded" people would do such a thing.
Spammers are all, by their very nature, sociopaths and criminals. They were pulling illegal stunts like this well before CAN-SPAM, which barely does anything to spam as it is. Look up Parker v. CN Enterprises/Nowak
Spammers are scum, every one of them. They know that their intrusions are unwanted, so even without antispam laws they will try to hide their acts of theft and trespass through phony names and email addresses.
Are you people seriously telling me, that a suitable punishment for spamming is being fucked up the arse?
No. Not unless it's with a red-hot steel rod lined with sharp barbs.
He was jailed because he stole someone's identity, not because he spammed. 7 years is the maximum sentence for identity theft, which he received as a result of having a prior felony conviction.
Let this be a lesson to us all: Spammers are all, without exception, CRIMINALS. The would would be a much better place if each and every email spammer were to receive a lead pellet injected into their skull at high velocity.
Even in the arcade it only takes a few pounds of pressure to activate one of the four sensors under each arrow.
I have the Dreamcast version,with offical Dreamcast pads. It takes much less than 'a few pounds of pressure'. So much less that I often screw up songs because arrows get 'hit' when I'm not touching them.
Apparently they haven't been turning a blind eye to the problem after all.
Yes, yes they have. They ignore complaints. If they weren't turning a blind eye to the problem, it wouldn't be necessary to totally block Comcast's IP space on mail filters.
They have the ability to take action when they receive abuse reports regarding zombie machines. They have thus far done nothing. It seems as though the volume of users bitching about being firewalled from the rest of the 'net as a result of their ISP's total inaction has finally reached a critical point.
How do you know the spammers are in America?
Ralsky, #1 on the ROKSO, lives in Ohio. He's also known for using Chinese ISPs to host his sites for selling his illegal drugs.
Ralsky deserves to be killed.
I mean, even parasites usually try to not kill the host.
Spammers are dumber than your average parasite. A lot dumber.
As someone who lives in China I get more than a little tired of being filtered out because of the continent I live in.
Then bitch at the Chinese ISPs who allowed the problem to exist in the first place.
Actually, I'm shitting them.
I guess that's why your TRO got smacked down before it could even go into effect.
And Spamcop is a bunch of evil, mean assclowns.
Poor widdle Snotty, whining and moaning because the big mean Spamcop gives people a tool to report your acts of theft and harassment.
Aww, what's the matter, Snotty? Are you shocked that your acts of theft, trespass and harassment have fostered ill will against you? Are you pissing your pants because there are people who actually want to give you what you deserve? Are you still such an arrogant shit that you see fit to sue Spamcop when they've done nothing wrong?
As satisfying as that might be (public executions, please!) I don't think anyone really wants such a law.
Make that "I don't think that anyone except for at least one person wants such a law".
I favour death for email spammers. Yes, shooting them is a little too quick and painless, but I'll take what I can get.
Besides.. you have to admit it's pretty funny seeing some of your "stereotypical" gamers "dancing".
Yes, but if they really get into it, they won't be looking so "sterotypical" anymore.
Like spammers aren't already guilty of false advertising in every message that they send.
I guess now it makes it easy to tell the "good" spammers from the "bad" spammers right?
Good point. With this, we will be able to determine which spammers are to be slowly tortured to death and which should simply receive a bullet in the brain.
Hey, if the Republic and Jedi council are dumb enough not to realise what is happening under their noses for twenty years, then I can believe that Darth Vader is too stupid to check the most obvious hiding spots.
Anyway, that might hold true for Tattooine, which has had its Dark Side aura for thousands of years, but if what I heard about Dagobah is correct, it gets its Dark Side aura as a result of Yoda downing a Dark Jedi (Tyrannus?) there, meaning that Anakin/Vader might not be privy to the knowledge.
What I heard was that Yoda had killed a dark Jedi there.
Actually, it's been well-established for some time that Dagobah had a strong dark-force aura, which allowed Yoda to hide undetected.
Same with Tattooine, hence Obi Wan Kenobi's presence there.
No one has arrested the Flash Mob crew.