The offender may be punished with financial harm, as may be punished with prison or community service. Usually is money because this way the offended receives some good from the offenders bad.
The problem is measuring the offended harm purely in money.
I have my own view of vengeance pleasure, I'd rather see my offender cleaning toilets on a public school than giving me some money. Money is a lot cheaper than time and self-respect
Some people have a serious trouble in telling apart freedom of speech and anarchy.
The ruling is about a post on Orkut that said something like "Priest John Doe is pedofile". Yes, a priest, in a small town, accused of pedofilism. If he is, the accuser should go to the police, not to Orkut.
In the analogies everybody likes, suppose your little town's printed newspaper receives an anonymous letter, to be printed in the reader's section, saying that. Does someone really think they would publish it? And, if they did, does anyone really think they would not be condenmed for defamation?
Google is not being charged directly for the saying, but for covering the identity of the criminal. Yes, defamation is a crime, maybe everywhere in the world.
The case is not even near freedom of speech, which, by the way, Brazil has a lot. Basically the only difference over the american law is that one cannot go out on the streets, or the internet, saying that people of some race or religion is inferior, for exemple. I mean, they can, nobody will stop them from doing that, but saying that is a crime, and will receive some kind of punishment.
Freedom of speech does not mean the right say anything without consequences, just the right to say, not being previously censored.
a) "is the power of the future and always will be. b) "five years later than what had been previously agreed to" c) "will cost even more than the seven parties in the project first thought"
pink, violet, whatever it is: land where sugar cane is viable: http://www.funpar.ufpr.br:8080/funpar/boletim/novo2/images/Image/MAPA_BRASIL_CANA.jpg
Just a little bit of Rain Forest could produce sugar cane. About the same area that could produce any other food, except rice, maybe (anual floods!)
Of course, by viable we mean today: Maybe in 50 years when the Global Warming produce by stubborn gas-loving slashdotters make the Amazon Forest a desert, it may become viable!
In 2008 90% (figures about 89% and 92%, some manufactures are not researched) of the cars sold in Brazil are "Flex", runing on any proportion of Ethanol and Gasoline (which has itself 25% of Ethanol as stated above)
The other 10% are mostly imported by smallers companies or cars with big motors (3.0+ liters) that have no volume to viabilize the production.
Another important point in that about half of "flex" cars are legally ethanol cars and this way have lower federal taxes (pre-crisis it was 11% against 13% for gasoline)
The rest of the market is made of smaller cars that had a fixed 7% no matter the fuel.
About food prices. Figures in Hectares
7.8 million - Sugar Cane 62 million - current plantations in Brazil(mainly Soy and Corn) 190 million - Total arable area in Brazil (include some areas in bovine cattle area) 220 million - Current Cattle areas 440 million - Amazon Forest, Pantanal , Atlantic Forest, Cerrado Savanas. Not include in any of the former areas.
History shows that cattle areas are being replaced by Sugar Cane. The Bovine Cattle density in Brazil is very lw, 1.2head/hectare. Increase this by 10% and you may free 3 times the current sugar cane area.
Long Story Short: FUD against ethanol.
USA should plant sugar cane, with the ridiculous energetic efficiency of corn ethanol, any poor producing sugar cane does better.
" by BRUTICUS (325520) on Sunday January 07, @10:00AM (#17497530) i should point out I definitely don't believe all women in brazil are sluts. I wouldn't even know, never been there. I was simply sharing my opinion in my own words.
I admit I could have chose better words. But know thats not what i meant."
A blank vote means "I don't care". A null vote mean "I'm not satisfied with any of the candidates".
Blank votes goes for the candidates with the most votes in the last turn. On the other hand, if in the last turn no candidate reaches 50%+1 votes (because of the null votes), the election is cancelled, and the current candidades may not run for the next one.
No, null means "I'm so dumb I can't use a keyboard properly"
The blanks votes goes for no one! It was true in the military times (1964-85) but since them is no more. They simple doesn't count in the end, just like the null votes.
And the null issue is not for votes nulled by voters, but by electoral justice, for instance, a candidate had 51% of the total votes, and for some reason, his candidacy is impugnated (because of a electoral crime, for instance).
Orkut heavy users are young, and voting is for 16+, but lots people only after 18. Ow, It may be for 18+, but its theory.
But this reach Lula anyway, he would also receive many votes from parents worried about their children having access to racism, pornography and things like that.
An last, I may be wrong, but Id bet the absolute majority(+75%) of Orkut users are in the Justices side of the discussion. And if Google itself end up their service in Brazil, theyd be pissed with Google, not with the government.
Don't be dumb! (just kidding, but I have the freedom of speech!:)
The president has no absolute power over Justice in Brazil, asides choosing 1 or 2 judges a year for the Supreme Courts, but even these are chosen from 3 people indicated by the Courts' body itself.
And the Google case is still in the state jurisdiction, not federal, so it would be a state problem, and, surprise: The state governors have just the same power in state justice (states here don't have so much power and independence as US ones)
Racism shouldn't be a crime in and of itself -- freedom of speech is something every country should agree on
I have a friend that paid a U$12,000 fine in Boston for saying "wow, nice" while looking a afro-american girl's breast.
If he said "die stinky niggers!" would it be fredom of speech?
In Brazil some girls would put a smile in their face. Some would not like, but would never take that to court. Even if they don't like, and take to court, they'd never win, because, like her or not, it was kind of a compliment, and there was no intent of obtaining any sex or the like in the situation. So no harassment
But in Boston, the judge didn't think like this.
People all over the world have different views, not about what is freedom, but where my freedom ends and where yours begin.
Buy a expensive computer(cash or monthly) with legal Windows copy or buy a cheaper(cash, or 3 installments) in the gray market with pirate Windows.
Now, besides those, people can buy a cheaper computer paying monthly(24!) with Linux. Dont want Linux? Dont like?
Buy a windows copy, cash, for about 50% of the hardware price you have.. or by a 5 CDs for U$10 with Windows, Office, and whatever you want...
Where is the problem? They're giving the 'right' to people to feel good not having to pirate anything...
Id prefer people to have the choice for one, or even both systems. BUT, no one is disallowing MS to offer for those that buy this PC a special offer on Windows, very cheap and installed for free. Its just not OEM installed, but also not charged from those who dont want windows at all
Here stem cells injection are being use in juvenile diabetes, lupus (resulted in complete disappear in some patientes, but may not be considered a cure) and multiple sclerosis, heart and cerebral vascular accidents.
There is a tv program transcription from 2005-01-14 here, in portuguese: http://redeglobo6.globo.com/Globorepo rter/0,19125, VGC0-2703-4724-3,00.html
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The offender may be punished with financial harm, as may be punished with prison or community service. Usually is money because this way the offended receives some good from the offenders bad.
The problem is measuring the offended harm purely in money.
I have my own view of vengeance pleasure, I'd rather see my offender cleaning toilets on a public school than giving me some money. Money is a lot cheaper than time and self-respect
Financial harm?
Ok, lets have more suicides because of school bullying.
GOD SAVE THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH WITHOUT FINANCIAL HARM!
Some people have a serious trouble in telling apart freedom of speech and anarchy.
The ruling is about a post on Orkut that said something like "Priest John Doe is pedofile". Yes, a priest, in a small town, accused of pedofilism. If he is, the accuser should go to the police, not to Orkut.
In the analogies everybody likes, suppose your little town's printed newspaper receives an anonymous letter, to be printed in the reader's section, saying that. Does someone really think they would publish it? And, if they did, does anyone really think they would not be condenmed for defamation?
Google is not being charged directly for the saying, but for covering the identity of the criminal. Yes, defamation is a crime, maybe everywhere in the world.
The case is not even near freedom of speech, which, by the way, Brazil has a lot. Basically the only difference over the american law is that one cannot go out on the streets, or the internet, saying that people of some race or religion is inferior, for exemple. I mean, they can, nobody will stop them from doing that, but saying that is a crime, and will receive some kind of punishment.
Freedom of speech does not mean the right say anything without consequences, just the right to say, not being previously censored.
Being impossible does not mean the local law must be forgotten.
For example, this thread is defamming the whole country for bad written article.
Circa 100BC the world didn't had 7 bilion people and the "Grape Quality and Productivity" exigencies were certainly lower then today's
God Bless the American freedom to not follow fixed ru!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gol_Transportes_A%C3%A9reos_Flight_1907
a) "is the power of the future and always will be.
b) "five years later than what had been previously agreed to"
c) "will cost even more than the seven parties in the project first thought"
Have they never used Java...?
Brazilian Premium gas is not pure, it's the same 75/25 mix of Gasoline and Anydrous Alcohol
It's just better gas that goes in the mix, and only in some stations brands, and some premium premium gas.
Generally its normal gas with motor cleaning additives
Some maps
Red: Sugar Cane, Green: Amazon Forest
http://www.unica.com.br/userFiles/mapa-prod-port.jpg
pink, violet, whatever it is: land where sugar cane is viable:
http://www.funpar.ufpr.br:8080/funpar/boletim/novo2/images/Image/MAPA_BRASIL_CANA.jpg
Just a little bit of Rain Forest could produce sugar cane. About the same area that could produce any other food, except rice, maybe (anual floods!)
Of course, by viable we mean today: Maybe in 50 years when the Global Warming produce by stubborn gas-loving slashdotters make the Amazon Forest a desert, it may become viable!
In 2008 90% (figures about 89% and 92%, some manufactures are not researched) of the cars sold in Brazil are "Flex", runing on any proportion of Ethanol and Gasoline (which has itself 25% of Ethanol as stated above)
The other 10% are mostly imported by smallers companies or cars with big motors (3.0+ liters) that have no volume to viabilize the production.
Another important point in that about half of "flex" cars are legally ethanol cars and this way have lower federal taxes (pre-crisis it was 11% against 13% for gasoline)
The rest of the market is made of smaller cars that had a fixed 7% no matter the fuel.
About food prices.
Figures in Hectares
7.8 million - Sugar Cane
62 million - current plantations in Brazil(mainly Soy and Corn)
190 million - Total arable area in Brazil (include some areas in bovine cattle area)
220 million - Current Cattle areas
440 million - Amazon Forest, Pantanal , Atlantic Forest, Cerrado Savanas. Not include in any of the former areas.
History shows that cattle areas are being replaced by Sugar Cane. The Bovine Cattle density in Brazil is very lw, 1.2head/hectare. Increase this by 10% and you may free 3 times the current sugar cane area.
Long Story Short: FUD against ethanol.
USA should plant sugar cane, with the ridiculous energetic efficiency of corn ethanol, any poor producing sugar cane does better.
Windows?
But isn't the complaint about wasting money and FLOPS?
Hey, it's a new version of Woody Woodpecker, not the old ones.
And it's not near "the most watched".
And Chaves is been played for at least 20 years. But it's cool, hehehe
" by BRUTICUS (325520) on Sunday January 07, @10:00AM (#17497530)
:)
i should point out I definitely don't believe all women in brazil are sluts. I wouldn't even know, never been there. I was simply sharing my opinion in my own words.
I admit I could have chose better words. But know thats not what i meant."
Don't worry, you must be american, am I right?
Americans are a all dumb
I meant better!
:D
The spread of the "american way of life" al over the world is getting me "fat-fingered"
Brazilians dont hate America, neither americans.
We just think the average ones are a little stupid and paranoid.
But if you're willing to leave USA, you're far batter the average one! Congratulations!
"In the last poll in my state (RS) I know of, Rigotto PMDB would win at the first round with 54%."
I think you missed some polls because he had 29% in the last pool I saw, saturday.
Man, PSBD is left just in the the name (S = socialist)
The last canadian "socialist" governments are "radical" compared to them
If you read the reports, you'll see that blank did 2,866,201 meaning (2.73%), and if they were added to Lula's votes he would win!
That's just a hoax.
The 48.61% he had are:
Lula's / (total - blank - null)
46,662,015 / (95,996,130 - 2,866201 - 5,957,182)
Do the math...
No, null means "I'm so dumb I can't use a keyboard properly"
The blanks votes goes for no one! It was true in the military times (1964-85) but since them is no more. They simple doesn't count in the end, just like the null votes.
And the null issue is not for votes nulled by voters, but by electoral justice, for instance, a candidate had 51% of the total votes, and for some reason, his candidacy is impugnated (because of a electoral crime, for instance).
Orkut heavy users are young, and voting is for 16+, but lots people only after 18. Ow, It may be for 18+, but its theory.
But this reach Lula anyway, he would also receive many votes from parents worried about their children having access to racism, pornography and things like that.
An last, I may be wrong, but Id bet the absolute majority(+75%) of Orkut users are in the Justices side of the discussion. And if Google itself end up their service in Brazil, theyd be pissed with Google, not with the government.
"re-elected"
:)
Don't be dumb! (just kidding, but I have the freedom of speech!
The president has no absolute power over Justice in Brazil, asides choosing 1 or 2 judges a year for the Supreme Courts, but even these are chosen from 3 people indicated by the Courts' body itself.
And the Google case is still in the state jurisdiction, not federal, so it would be a state problem, and, surprise: The state governors have just the same power in state justice (states here don't have so much power and independence as US ones)
Racism shouldn't be a crime in and of itself -- freedom of speech is something every country should agree on
I have a friend that paid a U$12,000 fine in Boston for saying "wow, nice" while looking a afro-american girl's breast.
If he said "die stinky niggers!" would it be fredom of speech?
In Brazil some girls would put a smile in their face. Some would not like, but would never take that to court. Even if they don't like, and take to court, they'd never win, because, like her or not, it was kind of a compliment, and there was no intent of obtaining any sex or the like in the situation. So no harassment
But in Boston, the judge didn't think like this.
People all over the world have different views, not about what is freedom, but where my freedom ends and where yours begin.
> Most places don't ask "Ever been arrested?" - they ask "Ever been convicted?"
Once in a job interview they asked me:
"Is there any legal or drug problem in your life that the company should be informed about?"
I said: "that the company should be informed, there is not."
People here in Brazil have 2 choices today.
Buy a expensive computer(cash or monthly) with legal Windows copy or buy a cheaper(cash, or 3 installments) in the gray market with pirate Windows.
Now, besides those, people can buy a cheaper computer paying monthly(24!) with Linux. Dont want Linux? Dont like?
Buy a windows copy, cash, for about 50% of the hardware price you have.. or by a 5 CDs for U$10 with Windows, Office, and whatever you want...
Where is the problem? They're giving the 'right' to people to feel good not having to pirate anything...
Id prefer people to have the choice for one, or even both systems. BUT, no one is disallowing MS to offer for those that buy this PC a special offer on Windows, very cheap and installed for free. Its just not OEM installed, but also not charged from those who dont want windows at all
its not that pionering...
o rter/0,19125, VGC0-2703-4724-3,00.html
Here stem cells injection are being use in juvenile diabetes, lupus (resulted in complete disappear in some patientes, but may not be considered a cure) and multiple sclerosis, heart and cerebral vascular accidents.
There is a tv program transcription from 2005-01-14 here, in portuguese:
http://redeglobo6.globo.com/Globorep