Three easy steps to installation bliss:
1) Put each ISO image into an NFS share on a remote computer. (You don't even have to unpack the images -- as some HOWTOs suggest.)
2) Burn only the first ISO to CD-R. Upon boot (from CD-ROM), when the "Linux:" prompt appears, enter the following: linux askmethod
3) Profit! Uh... No. Actually, after a: selecting NFS from the list and b: requesting (DHCP-enabled networks) or specifying an IP address, c: enter the NFS server's IP address and the NFS path where the ISO images are located (not the mount point, the actual path from the root -- e.g./var/local/nfs/fedora/tettnang/).
And that's it! If you're connecting over Fast Ethernet, your installation will be unbelievably fast -- and you can avoid having to swap CD-ROMs as you go.
Just because you don't pay money, doesn't mean it's free.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever read......oh, wait.
Reminds me: My dad was a missionary to various countries in South America -- he spoke fluent Spanish. One day a fellow preacher came by, from the US (Estados Unidos), to give a grand Protestant sermon to the mostly Catholic-born natives. The title of his sermon (in English): "The Difference Between Righteousness by Faith and Justification by Faith". (Yes, humans often quibble over the finest of details.)
He had to take a seat, aghast and flabbergasted, after just ten minutes into his 90-minute sermon, when his translator (mi papa) explained to him that, in Spanish, there is only one word (Justicia) for his two words, Justification and Righteousness.
Freedom, sir... I'll take Freedom over Free, any day.
Again, I am blaming policy. I think you want me to put the blame on a group of people, and I'm not going there. Republicans or Democrats in office on a certain day doesn't magically effect change. Their policies, however (put into effect) do.
All I'm saying is that it is the role of the leading economic influence (in this case, Government) to lead, economically. When the policies of Government cause "currency" to flow the economy grows. Today I see a leader hell bent on fueling a political machine; Not fueling an economy towards prosperity for all.
Yes, by your timeline, the Republicans already controled all but the Whitehouse when those events began. It may not be the man at the top which controls these events, but they are certainly influenced by prevailing policy.
I remember lots of grumblings about Gore being more "tech-friendly" than Bush, around that time. To me the recession seemed to follow the election's outcome quite fittingly. Remember the slap on the wrist Microsoft received in 2001? If economic logic holds that competition makes for a healthy economy, then Republicans (based on behavior alone) are quite anti-healthy economy.
I've lived in third-world countries enough to know that the very poor are kept in poverty by the very wealthy -- who hold, not just most of the wealth, but most of the power. What my armchair-economist opinion says is:
1) Robin Hood would have made a good Democrat and a great economist. To tax the rich to support the commoners (Welfare, Healthcare, decent Unemployment benefits, Social Security, etc.) forces money to "flow".
2) When one cuts taxes for the rich it cuts off the flow of money -- plain and simple.
3) "Trickle-down Economics" is pure myth. There is no such thing. It's a nice idea and, like a lot of get-rich-quick schemes, is based on a few grains of truth.
Wealthy people *hoard* money. It's in their nature to do so. That's why they're wealthy. You have to incent them to invest their money. Taxes make for a great incentive to "shelter" one's money -- through investments. Use it or lose it! Ever wonder why VC's are being so stingie these days? Their money is much safer, today, from taxation. The most important factor in converting a stagnant economy (as found in so many 3rd world countries) into a bristling one is simply to get one's currency to flow!
It's easy to think a recession couldn't just happen so quickly; Easy to think the resession was "inherited". But economic policies have very real, fast-acting consequences. If you don't believe it, then you haven't watched the reactions on Wall Street on the days when Allen Greenspan speaks.
Well, I guess the earlier poster was right. This *does* belong in politics.slashdot.org;-)
Well now, that's the beauty of tabbed browsing -- and "load tab in background". Click each link with the middle mouse button and you're there! Is that so hard?
Trust. That's what Open Source software sells to me. I can not trust Microsoft. If they could find a way to sell genuine, believable trust, then I wouldn't care if their software remained closed source.
When I buy cars, houses, groceries, electricity and other services, I am not faced with the kind of EULA that Microsoft would shove in my face. Microsoft sells from the point of mistrust and I have to buy from them from that standpoint. It's really creepy. It's like buying telephone service and having to sign a paper where I agree I won't make crank calls or stalk people or commit fraud using their services. I'm guilty before I can prove I'm innocent.
It bothers me less and less how much "ease of use" I may be giving up by buying open source. What I gain is an incredible relationship, built on freedom, openness and trust -- with a whole community behind it. You can't buy any of that from One Microsoft Way. The members I've met in their "community" are wallet watchers, not trust builders (i.e. most of them seem to defend Microsoft because it affects their income).
Here's what I want: I want to be able to buy a word processor from my favorite word processor vendor that will interoperate with a spreadsheet from my favorite spreadsheet vendor. This is, more and more, what it's been like to "buy" from open source. I can trust that the KDE camp won't work against, but with the OpenOffice.org camp. It would seem they even have my best interest at heart! Go figure. It's a lot like buying from IBM PC compatible vendors. Everything is compatible!
That's how far Microsoft has to go in opening up. In the end, I don't think it's really about how open your source is. It's about how open you are with the community. "Trustworthy Computing"? Ha! Right. That will happen when they get other, eager contributors -- outside their protective moat -- to jump in and help them (with such a daunting task). That can't happen without trust.
Bottom line: Microsoft needs to quit being such a wormhead [a type of fish that takes over whole ecosystems] and start leaving room for diversity. Then I may begin to trust them again.
If you really should be using flat files (for read-only "speed"?) but want to look SQL-cool, MySQL will win you over, hands down. But don't let the "SQL" in MySQL fool you.
With simply a good understanding of normalization and implementing genuine relational transactions, try to get MySQL to "work".
There truly is no comparison. They are not even siblings.
Perhaps the Linux community would do a better job of shutting people like me up by fixing the REAL issues
Perhaps the "REAL" issue is, Microsoft has found a sweet spot in your wallet -- and then you're working your way backwards from there into an oppinion.
I work with Windows boxen nearly every day of the week. We install Linux servers in every office we can, centralizing file shares, centralizing databases (including Act! and Access). We then add a little sauce, like IM and web-based CM and Calendar, etc., etc.
We never service our clients' Linux boxen. Never. However, we bill thousands of dollars a week for Windows "help". In other words, I could easily say that Microsoft has been good to us -- indirectly. But I have to ask myself: What's best for our clients? Not Microsoft Windows. Also, what's best for our own business?
In the office, we run 100% Linux -- have for 6 years. In all that time, we've never had to reboot a system except to upgrade the kernel or move a box from one room to another. We do all invoicing, payroll, taxes, inventory control and all "desktop" functions using Linux.
You Windows-dependent businesses really don't know how smooth operations can be with Linux. Virii? Ha! Pop-ups? Haven't seen one of those in over two years! Reboots for every application installation? Never. Networking? Rock solid. Application crashes? Occasionally, but never does the OS go down with.
Does one need a "Systems Administrator" for Linux? What an irrelevant question! It's irrelevant given the number of hours our clients have us in the office *just* rebooting their systems. If we were to find a client which could switch to Linux, I'm certain we'd spend perhaps a little more time doing initial setup and then never hear from them again until they needed hardware upgrades.
So the reason for the above rant? Our clients aren't made of money. They can't afford to keep calling us back because each time they buy a new Windows-based laptop, we have to do our "magic" to get the thing immune to virii, etc. Unfortunately, computing has become a social thing. The reality is, JohnTheFisherman will never change his/her mind until such a time that Linux affects his/her wallet, directly. So my clients have to live with the social status quo, to keep compatible with other businesses.
How many of you (probably would have to be not-so-wet behind the ears) have joined a truly excellent company, gotten your hopes up that "This is the company to last the rest of my career!" -- it's that good -- only to watch it go psycho when the board decides to take it public?
No, the madness doesn't happen overnight. You slowly begin hearing about the symptoms as the pressure begins... "But it's the end of the month! This (shit) has to ship!", etc.
Sad, but true and (by my experience) inevitable. I wish there were no rules which forced a company to commit what is essentially "fiscal lobotomy".
People used to laugh at the MP3 craze, thinking that it would never truly take off because the sound generated by MP3 playback (lossy) was "inferior". Trouble with that mindset is, disruptive technologies always offer change in two directions: 1) "Good enough" is good enough; and 2) Cheap, if not free of cost, is the norm.
Linux and it's software ilk are merely a sign of the times. They're "good enough" and they're cheaper than the stuff they now replace. Linux is the future.
Because as nice as the thought of OS X is:
* The price of the hardware is too much to stomach.
* The price of the software is often more expensive for Mac than it is for IBM-PC compats.
* There is far worse interoperability from a hardware standpoint.
I can't just buy any web-cam I want and expect it to run on a Mac, for example. But, these days, I can buy just about any web cam and run it using Linux.
Quit with the "why not run Mac?" crap. Since computers have become commodities, it's not going to happen. What needs to happen is, people need to embrace the idea that it's software that is fast becoming a commodity.
People used to laugh at the MP3 craze, thinking that it would never truly take off because the sound generated by MP3 playback (lossy) was "inferior". Trouble with that mindset: Disruptive technologies offer change in two directions: 1) "Good enough" is good enough; and 2) Cheap, if not free of cost, is the norm.
Linux and it's software ilk are merely a sign of the times. They're "good enough" and they're cheaper than the stuff they now replace. Linux is the future.
The Mac scene is going completely counter to this natural trend. Which is just fine. There will always be a market for live (i.e. more expensive than CD) music:-)
Just two days ago, a marketing VP I know called to bash Microsoft. He'd lost "thousands of e-mail addresses" (he's not a spammer, just well-connected) because he had answered "Ok" when Windows asked if he wanted to "repair" something.
He wanted me to walk him through installing Linux, right then and there -- over the phone. So I did. I said, "Well, what I recommend is you get your feet wet, first". I Asked him how he used his laptop; What were the applications he couldn't live without; What were the ones he liked but could live without, etc.
Then I said, "You know, all the applications you mention are ones that will run on both Linux and Windows. Why don't you download and install them, first on Windows, get to know them and then switch all the way to Linux, once you've adjusted?".
He agreed to give my recommendation a try, and that was it. Storm calmed. About an hour later, he called back to say he'd found the file containing his address book and had "reconnected it to Outlook". Problem solved.
Seems like, recently, I've run into more and more awareness of (at least the word) Linux. It's becoming a great "save" me" point when clients get frustrated with Windows. They just want to give Microsoft the big heave-ho! And, though I and everyone in my home and office have been Microsoft-free since 1998, I find myself talking people out of taking the plunge.
I wish there was a distribution that gave me the confidence I need to recommend it. Since all I know is DEC, Solaris and RedHat/Fedora, perhaps I should buy a copy of Linspire and try it out -- for clients' sake. Any other suggestions for helping people transition?
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Is this what you mean?
Three easy steps to installation bliss: 1) Put each ISO image into an NFS share on a remote computer. (You don't even have to unpack the images -- as some HOWTOs suggest.)
/var/local/nfs/fedora/tettnang/).
2) Burn only the first ISO to CD-R. Upon boot (from CD-ROM), when the "Linux:" prompt appears, enter the following:
linux askmethod
3) Profit! Uh... No. Actually, after a: selecting NFS from the list and b: requesting (DHCP-enabled networks) or specifying an IP address, c: enter the NFS server's IP address and the NFS path where the ISO images are located (not the mount point, the actual path from the root -- e.g.
And that's it! If you're connecting over Fast Ethernet, your installation will be unbelievably fast -- and you can avoid having to swap CD-ROMs as you go.
"And this is my other brother, Darl."
:-D
Reminds me of Newhart
Dear Valued CitiCards.com Customer,
Due to an increase in on-line fraud, we are requiring all of our on-line customers to verify their account information.
Please click on the following link and enter your account information, immediately:
http://123.123.112.22/citicards.com/gotcha.cgi
Thank you for your participation.
Best regards,
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Citi Cards Fraud Officer
900-569-6969
Just because you don't pay money, doesn't mean it's free.
...oh, wait.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever read...
Reminds me: My dad was a missionary to various countries in South America -- he spoke fluent Spanish. One day a fellow preacher came by, from the US (Estados Unidos), to give a grand Protestant sermon to the mostly Catholic-born natives. The title of his sermon (in English): "The Difference Between Righteousness by Faith and Justification by Faith". (Yes, humans often quibble over the finest of details.)
He had to take a seat, aghast and flabbergasted, after just ten minutes into his 90-minute sermon, when his translator (mi papa) explained to him that, in Spanish, there is only one word (Justicia) for his two words, Justification and Righteousness.
Freedom, sir... I'll take Freedom over Free, any day.
Does anybody else here refuse to use KDE simply because of its retarded naming scheme?
Did you mean "retarded", like:
* gnibbles
* grip
* gaim
* gnome-about
* gnome-bug
* gnome-calculator
* gcalctool
* gnome-character-map
* gnome-desktop-item-edit
* gnome-dictionary
* gnome-dump-metadata
* gnome-font-install
* gnome-gen-mimedb
* gnome-gtkhtml-editor-1.1
* gnome-keyring-daemon
* gnome-moz-remote
* gnome-name-service
* gnome-open
* gnome-panel
* gnome-panel-preferences
* gnome-panel-screenshot
* gnome-print-manager
* gnome-pty-helper
* gnome-search-tool
* gnome_segv
* gnome-stones
* gnomevfs-cat
* gnomevfs-copy
* gnomevfs-info
* gnomevfs-ls
* gnomevfs-mkdir
* gnomine
* gnotski
* gimp
* gimptool
etc., etc.
I love the smell of flaimbait in the morning...
Again, I am blaming policy. I think you want me to put the blame on a group of people, and I'm not going there. Republicans or Democrats in office on a certain day doesn't magically effect change. Their policies, however (put into effect) do.
All I'm saying is that it is the role of the leading economic influence (in this case, Government) to lead, economically. When the policies of Government cause "currency" to flow the economy grows. Today I see a leader hell bent on fueling a political machine; Not fueling an economy towards prosperity for all.
Yes, by your timeline, the Republicans already controled all but the Whitehouse when those events began. It may not be the man at the top which controls these events, but they are certainly influenced by prevailing policy.
I remember lots of grumblings about Gore being more "tech-friendly" than Bush, around that time. To me the recession seemed to follow the election's outcome quite fittingly. Remember the slap on the wrist Microsoft received in 2001? If economic logic holds that competition makes for a healthy economy, then Republicans (based on behavior alone) are quite anti-healthy economy.
;-)
I've lived in third-world countries enough to know that the very poor are kept in poverty by the very wealthy -- who hold, not just most of the wealth, but most of the power. What my armchair-economist opinion says is:
1) Robin Hood would have made a good Democrat and a great economist. To tax the rich to support the commoners (Welfare, Healthcare, decent Unemployment benefits, Social Security, etc.) forces money to "flow".
2) When one cuts taxes for the rich it cuts off the flow of money -- plain and simple.
3) "Trickle-down Economics" is pure myth. There is no such thing. It's a nice idea and, like a lot of get-rich-quick schemes, is based on a few grains of truth.
Wealthy people *hoard* money. It's in their nature to do so. That's why they're wealthy. You have to incent them to invest their money. Taxes make for a great incentive to "shelter" one's money -- through investments. Use it or lose it! Ever wonder why VC's are being so stingie these days? Their money is much safer, today, from taxation. The most important factor in converting a stagnant economy (as found in so many 3rd world countries) into a bristling one is simply to get one's currency to flow!
It's easy to think a recession couldn't just happen so quickly; Easy to think the resession was "inherited". But economic policies have very real, fast-acting consequences. If you don't believe it, then you haven't watched the reactions on Wall Street on the days when Allen Greenspan speaks.
Well, I guess the earlier poster was right. This *does* belong in politics.slashdot.org
Well now, that's the beauty of tabbed browsing -- and "load tab in background". Click each link with the middle mouse button and you're there! Is that so hard?
Trust. That's what Open Source software sells to me. I can not trust Microsoft. If they could find a way to sell genuine, believable trust, then I wouldn't care if their software remained closed source.
When I buy cars, houses, groceries, electricity and other services, I am not faced with the kind of EULA that Microsoft would shove in my face. Microsoft sells from the point of mistrust and I have to buy from them from that standpoint. It's really creepy. It's like buying telephone service and having to sign a paper where I agree I won't make crank calls or stalk people or commit fraud using their services. I'm guilty before I can prove I'm innocent.
It bothers me less and less how much "ease of use" I may be giving up by buying open source. What I gain is an incredible relationship, built on freedom, openness and trust -- with a whole community behind it. You can't buy any of that from One Microsoft Way. The members I've met in their "community" are wallet watchers, not trust builders (i.e. most of them seem to defend Microsoft because it affects their income).
Here's what I want: I want to be able to buy a word processor from my favorite word processor vendor that will interoperate with a spreadsheet from my favorite spreadsheet vendor. This is, more and more, what it's been like to "buy" from open source. I can trust that the KDE camp won't work against, but with the OpenOffice.org camp. It would seem they even have my best interest at heart! Go figure. It's a lot like buying from IBM PC compatible vendors. Everything is compatible!
That's how far Microsoft has to go in opening up. In the end, I don't think it's really about how open your source is. It's about how open you are with the community. "Trustworthy Computing"? Ha! Right. That will happen when they get other, eager contributors -- outside their protective moat -- to jump in and help them (with such a daunting task). That can't happen without trust.
Bottom line: Microsoft needs to quit being such a wormhead [a type of fish that takes over whole ecosystems] and start leaving room for diversity. Then I may begin to trust them again.
A new type of "haves and have knots"?
(I'd be in knots, too, if I still had dial-up).
"everyone passes through an abassador"
Give your cold to Contac!
If you really should be using flat files (for read-only "speed"?) but want to look SQL-cool, MySQL will win you over, hands down. But don't let the "SQL" in MySQL fool you.
With simply a good understanding of normalization and implementing genuine relational transactions, try to get MySQL to "work".
There truly is no comparison. They are not even siblings.
Thank you so much for that post. You put into words what I've experienced, daily, but could never summarize so well.
Now I have a useful link to send to friends who are struggling with the MySQL / MS-SQL / Postgres decision. Do you write books, too? You should.
I always thought that version number was simply an emoticon: Wincing while sticking out their tongue at the world.
:P XP :P XP :P
What about Apple users? (just curious) :)
Well, they seem to be the drivers on the road that no one notices. Good drivers, though.
(BTW, yours is one of the coolest sigs. I've seen in a while.)
It works like this:
a) If you use anything Microsoft, you're an idiot.
b) If you use anything Linux, you're a maniac.
Sort of like slow-driver/fast-driver syndrome.
"Remember that scene in Scanners where that dude's brain explodes?"
Perhaps the Linux community would do a better job of shutting people like me up by fixing the REAL issues
Perhaps the "REAL" issue is, Microsoft has found a sweet spot in your wallet -- and then you're working your way backwards from there into an oppinion.
I work with Windows boxen nearly every day of the week. We install Linux servers in every office we can, centralizing file shares, centralizing databases (including Act! and Access). We then add a little sauce, like IM and web-based CM and Calendar, etc., etc.
We never service our clients' Linux boxen. Never. However, we bill thousands of dollars a week for Windows "help". In other words, I could easily say that Microsoft has been good to us -- indirectly. But I have to ask myself: What's best for our clients? Not Microsoft Windows. Also, what's best for our own business?
In the office, we run 100% Linux -- have for 6 years. In all that time, we've never had to reboot a system except to upgrade the kernel or move a box from one room to another. We do all invoicing, payroll, taxes, inventory control and all "desktop" functions using Linux.
You Windows-dependent businesses really don't know how smooth operations can be with Linux. Virii? Ha! Pop-ups? Haven't seen one of those in over two years! Reboots for every application installation? Never. Networking? Rock solid. Application crashes? Occasionally, but never does the OS go down with.
Does one need a "Systems Administrator" for Linux? What an irrelevant question! It's irrelevant given the number of hours our clients have us in the office *just* rebooting their systems. If we were to find a client which could switch to Linux, I'm certain we'd spend perhaps a little more time doing initial setup and then never hear from them again until they needed hardware upgrades.
So the reason for the above rant? Our clients aren't made of money. They can't afford to keep calling us back because each time they buy a new Windows-based laptop, we have to do our "magic" to get the thing immune to virii, etc. Unfortunately, computing has become a social thing. The reality is, JohnTheFisherman will never change his/her mind until such a time that Linux affects his/her wallet, directly. So my clients have to live with the social status quo, to keep compatible with other businesses.
How sad.
A: When they go public. :-/
How many of you (probably would have to be not-so-wet behind the ears) have joined a truly excellent company, gotten your hopes up that "This is the company to last the rest of my career!" -- it's that good -- only to watch it go psycho when the board decides to take it public?
No, the madness doesn't happen overnight. You slowly begin hearing about the symptoms as the pressure begins... "But it's the end of the month! This (shit) has to ship!", etc.
Sad, but true and (by my experience) inevitable. I wish there were no rules which forced a company to commit what is essentially "fiscal lobotomy".
People used to laugh at the MP3 craze, thinking that it would never truly take off because the sound generated by MP3 playback (lossy) was "inferior". Trouble with that mindset is, disruptive technologies always offer change in two directions: 1) "Good enough" is good enough; and 2) Cheap, if not free of cost, is the norm.
Linux and it's software ilk are merely a sign of the times. They're "good enough" and they're cheaper than the stuff they now replace. Linux is the future.
Now go buy a Mac!
Because as nice as the thought of OS X is:
:-)
* The price of the hardware is too much to stomach.
* The price of the software is often more expensive for Mac than it is for IBM-PC compats.
* There is far worse interoperability from a hardware standpoint.
I can't just buy any web-cam I want and expect it to run on a Mac, for example. But, these days, I can buy just about any web cam and run it using Linux.
Quit with the "why not run Mac?" crap. Since computers have become commodities, it's not going to happen. What needs to happen is, people need to embrace the idea that it's software that is fast becoming a commodity.
People used to laugh at the MP3 craze, thinking that it would never truly take off because the sound generated by MP3 playback (lossy) was "inferior". Trouble with that mindset: Disruptive technologies offer change in two directions: 1) "Good enough" is good enough; and 2) Cheap, if not free of cost, is the norm.
Linux and it's software ilk are merely a sign of the times. They're "good enough" and they're cheaper than the stuff they now replace. Linux is the future.
The Mac scene is going completely counter to this natural trend. Which is just fine. There will always be a market for live (i.e. more expensive than CD) music
Just two days ago, a marketing VP I know called to bash Microsoft. He'd lost "thousands of e-mail addresses" (he's not a spammer, just well-connected) because he had answered "Ok" when Windows asked if he wanted to "repair" something.
He wanted me to walk him through installing Linux, right then and there -- over the phone. So I did. I said, "Well, what I recommend is you get your feet wet, first". I Asked him how he used his laptop; What were the applications he couldn't live without; What were the ones he liked but could live without, etc.
Then I said, "You know, all the applications you mention are ones that will run on both Linux and Windows. Why don't you download and install them, first on Windows, get to know them and then switch all the way to Linux, once you've adjusted?".
He agreed to give my recommendation a try, and that was it. Storm calmed. About an hour later, he called back to say he'd found the file containing his address book and had "reconnected it to Outlook". Problem solved.
Seems like, recently, I've run into more and more awareness of (at least the word) Linux. It's becoming a great "save" me" point when clients get frustrated with Windows. They just want to give Microsoft the big heave-ho! And, though I and everyone in my home and office have been Microsoft-free since 1998, I find myself talking people out of taking the plunge.
I wish there was a distribution that gave me the confidence I need to recommend it. Since all I know is DEC, Solaris and RedHat/Fedora, perhaps I should buy a copy of Linspire and try it out -- for clients' sake. Any other suggestions for helping people transition?
Just so cool to watch the meter go from "000350 Number of Hits Since Mar 10, 2000" to "000501" in a mater of seconds (by hitting reload). Mesmerizing!
I miss seeing more hit meters around the web.