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Google Acquires Picasa, Improves Blogging Tools

clandestine writes "It appears that our lovable search engine has again expanded its horizons - the internet wasn't enough; now you can search and organize your own pictures. I don't know about you, but I use Google for nearly everything; heck, I found links about their acquisition of Picasa through Google News! Any slashdotters going to benefit from this tech, or already do? And yes, the addition of Picasa to their arsenal is a couple of days old, but they just started linking them on the homepage today."

369 comments

  1. Monopoly by yuting · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seems like Google is expanding to more areas of our internet lives... Would this be another Microsoft coming?

    1. Re:Monopoly by Fenresulven · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think it's an attempt to survive the built in search options in Longhorn. So it would be more along the lines of surviving Microsoft than trying to become Microsoft.

    2. Re:Monopoly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Two adversaries are better than one... at least in a capitalist world.

    3. Re:Monopoly by arieswind · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Google will never become another Microsoft. If you think about it, the cost of moving is 0. Google will only be the market leader as long as it is the best. As soon as something better comes out, people will switch over. Google's sucess is based off of how good its product is, Microsoft's success is based off of how well it can lock its consumers in.

    4. Re:Monopoly by isopossu · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Gmail's 1 GB mailbox without the option to
      1. forward the messages
      2. move the whole mailbox elsewhere

      looks just like locking the consumers in. For example in Yahoo you can buy yourself out by paying $ 20 and upload your 2G anywhere. You can't do this in Gmail.
    5. Re:Monopoly by arieswind · · Score: 2, Informative

      Gmail is also still in beta, you know, dont come to that conclusion that fast

    6. Re:Monopoly by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 2, Informative

      ... Except Gmail isn't finished yet.

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    7. Re:Monopoly by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Informative

      Gmail's 1 GB mailbox without the option to

      1. forward the messages
      2. move the whole mailbox elsewhere

      looks just like locking the consumers in. For example in Yahoo you can buy yourself out by paying $ 20 and upload your 2G anywhere. You can't do this in Gmail.


      You can do that with a free Hotmail account with the Gotmail script, and with a free Yahoo acount with the Yosucker script. Both retrieve your data through the proprietary HTML interface of the provider, "mbox'es" the formatting and forward it to the email account of your choice. No need to pay a hapenny for the privilege.

      Matter of fact, I use Gotmail to retrieve all of my 50-so hotmail accounts every 30 minutes and forward them to my main pop3 account. I never see the Hotmail site. It works very well indeed.

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    8. Re:Monopoly by garcia · · Score: 1

      Google's sucess is based off of how good its product is, Microsoft's success is based off of how well it can lock its consumers in.

      I realize that through shady deals and whatnot MSFT established itself as the industry leader and continues to do so today...

      Now, while Google didn't use shady deals to become the #1 search engine out there do you think that they will resort to lock-in tactics later? Perhaps after they go public and money begins to control innovation and not the other way around?

    9. Re:Monopoly by nwbvt · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "If you think about it, the cost of moving is 0."

      Not really. People get used to the web services and have trouble leaving them. Same with applications. Its not exactly that hard to switch from IE to Firefox and doesn't cost a dime, yet MS still has 90-something% of the market there.

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    10. Re:Monopoly by vk2 · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Exactly - I weighed my options of paying the 19.99$ per account for the archive and 2gb features but when I came across fetchyahoo I was very much impressed about the features and ease with which you can download mails from yahoo.

      Didn't mean to steal $$ from yahoo but 19$ is too steep per account. However I do pay them for the personal email addresses - So I guess I am justified.

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    11. Re:Monopoly by yuting · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Microsoft's vision used to be "a computer on every desktop and in every home" (with Windows being the only OS).

      Google's vision is "make the world's information universally accessible and useful" (with Google the only way to access it?) ;)

    12. Re:Monopoly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for that info. Is there a tool which allows one to do the same thing from mail.com?

    13. Re:Monopoly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so what.

      antitrust laws are agains monopolies brought about by illicit means. the US likes monopolies otherwise.

    14. Re:Monopoly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      You can download all the google mail using Pop goes the Gmail.

    15. Re:Monopoly by arieswind · · Score: 1

      I disagree. It's a lot easier to start going to www.newsearchengine.com than www.google.com than it is to switch your browser, especially if you don't own the machine you work on (e.g. work machine)

    16. Re:Monopoly by SilkBD · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, please ignore the fact that gmail is still in beta.

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    17. Re:Monopoly by xiando · · Score: 1

      Is Google Becoming too powerfull? After Yahoo stopped using Google as a seach backend in february their maked share did drop from 80% to 50% in the search marked, but I suspect they have gained on the competition since then.

      I got gmail and I can't seem to get rid of the invites, everyone I know already has a gmail account. There are no stats on how many people actually have, or use, gmail available, but it does seem they already have a fair share of the webmail marked.

      And their adsence has become the number one advertisment channel on the net, those ads seem to be on "all pages" now. Maby because it actually works better than other solutions, I checked out bidclicks the other day and found that their terms include a statement that they can refuse to pay you if less than 80% of the visitors originate from the US - and that's a pretty lame term for any website that doesn't offer very US specific content...

      So now Google can a) seach your mail and know what topics you takl about, b) track what websites you visit using their adsence and now also index your images..

      They have not been know to abuse this information, but the info they got on "everyone" now has potential to be used and abused in many ways..

    18. Re:Monopoly by sridhar.g · · Score: 1

      Here We should consider a point, Microsoft went to public by issuing shares long back.
      When company is with public money, certainly it needs to perform in terms of profits and satisfy its investors.
      Just google is falling in this trap(IPO), We have to wait and see, how google can make differance.

    19. Re:Monopoly by generic-man · · Score: 5, Informative

      The term "beta" has lost all useful meaning. Should we withhold judgment on ICQ because it's been in "beta" since 1994? Should we avoid trusting Google News because it's been in beta for two years?

      "Beta" is just a way for a company to say "if this breaks, we don't care."

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    20. Re:Monopoly by InodoroPereyra · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Then, why do they buy a company that produces windows only software ? Shouldn't they go for multiplatform / opensource software ? Isn't this Sun's and IBM's and Novell's strategy ?

    21. Re:Monopoly by ignatzMouse · · Score: 1

      The danger in fighting a stronger opponent is that often the most effective way to combat them is to become them.

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    22. Re:Monopoly by KilobyteKnight · · Score: 1

      I disagree. It's a lot easier to start going to www.newsearchengine.com than www.google.com than it is to switch your browser, especially if you don't own the machine you work on (e.g. work machine)

      Not only that, there are brain dead web application developers that sell web services to companies, and insist on writing to IE6 as opposed to standards. I deal with two such providers to my company. Their only reason: "We only support IE6". The result, goofy looking, confusing, non-standard displays on anything other than IE. In neither case would actually altering the code (javascript mainly, and a couple of IE only HTML tags) be a major undertaking. They just won't do it without being paid a huge sum of money.

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    23. Re:Monopoly by perly-king-69 · · Score: 1
      Only if they force competitors out of business by leveraging their power in one market to wipe out products in another market. As MicroSoft did and were convicted of.

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    24. Re:Monopoly by override11 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Windows only is not a crime. Developing for 90% of the world's PC's only makes sense.

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    25. Re:Monopoly by KaSkA101 · · Score: 1

      Theres something called pop goes the Gmail or pgtgm that you should look into. Right now it just got to version one. It allows you to access you mail via any pop3 client just like the other scripts, the author is also adding IMAP support soon, and some other cool features. This means you can move you mail elsewhere.

    26. Re:Monopoly by Cecil · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ICQ is made by a stupid company that has decided to purposely misuse the terms 'beta' and 'alpha', because they thought it would be hip marketing.

      They have publicly admitted that their 'alpha' versions are what are commonly referred to as 'beta' software, and their 'beta' software is released, official versions.

      Now, Google News I can make no apologies for. I've wondered why it's still in beta. I can't think of any reasons. I can think of plenty of features I'd like for them to add, but the basic functionality seems rock solid. Dunno why they list it as beta.

    27. Re:Monopoly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... search marked ...

      It's *MARKET* you big cheese.

      Oh, and

      * 'takl' is 'talk'
      * 'adsence' is 'adsense'
      * 'powerfull' is 'powerful'
      * February should be capitalised
      * you could have provided links to bidclicks and Google's adsense
      * it's 'back-end'
      * no need for "available" after "... people have, or use,"
      * etc etc, bored now.

    28. Re:Monopoly by ImTwoSlick · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Then, why do they buy a company that produces windows only software ? Shouldn't they go for multiplatform / opensource software ? Isn't this Sun's and IBM's and Novell's strategy ?

      Who says they won't make it crossplatform? They can do anything they want with it now.

    29. Re:Monopoly by Jad+LaFields · · Score: 1

      I'll take an invite if you really have too many:

      jezztorrent (AT) hotmail

      Thanks.

      Oh, and to be slightly on topic: my only problem with all those google adsense banners on people's pages is that sometimes the google color scheme really clashes with other website's colors. Especially when they have black backgounds with lots of colors, regular, colorful add banners seem less out of place than the (usually wonderful) spase, white google ads...

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    30. Re:Monopoly by hunterx11 · · Score: 3, Funny

      While you're at it, could you send me an ICQ invite? I've been dying to message my friends.

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    31. Re:Monopoly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Sure! Say goodbye to that lame "hunterx11" nickname -- your friends will envy you as 301879928!

    32. Re:Monopoly by smagruder · · Score: 1

      How about this instead: If you can't beat 'em, leapfrog 'em! :)

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    33. Re:Monopoly by stephenbooth · · Score: 1
      Gmail's 1 GB mailbox without the option to
      1. forward the messages

      So what does the 'Forward' link at the bottom of all my mails in my GMail account do when I click it then? I had been naively assuming that clicking it, entering an email address, clicking send and then having the mail arrive in the mail box of the address I entered constituted forwarding.

      Stephen

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    34. Re:Monopoly by squaretorus · · Score: 1

      If you think about it, the cost of moving is 0

      On the face of it, yes. In fact, the cost of moving for the vast legions of Google users who dont even know what a search engine IS and refer to searching as googling is huge!

      TV presenters, Radio presenters etc... all refer to 'Googling' now. The cost of moving to a better search engine is non conformance and a lack of confidence that they are getting everything they should be out of their internet.

      If the world 'Googles' for information - the cost of changing is irrelevent. Resistance is futile.

      And at what point does Mozilla decide to remove the default shortcut Google searches in favour of the fabby new 'assman.com' searches?

      Stickiness is not only down to monetary costs

    35. Re:Monopoly by double-oh+three · · Score: 1

      But it might just be stupid. The tech world is still new enough that there can be very quick upsets and someday soon we might have a world that's more like 50% Windows, 30% OSX/XI, and 20% Other. Starting development now on other platforms builds redundancy that won't dissapear if 40% of your market dissapears.

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    36. Re:Monopoly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      while true; do echo "screw flanders"; done

      Or you could just do yes "screw flanders".

    37. Re:Monopoly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you realize what the program does? It would probably only take a few months max to port it over to OSX/Linux/whatever. Windows isn't going to loose 40% of their market share overnight.

    38. Re:Monopoly by smagruder · · Score: 1

      Re: with Google the only way to access it?

      As long as there are industry or subject-based portals with links, I don't see this happening.

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    39. Re:Monopoly by Destoo · · Score: 1

      Hmm.. was that supposed to be funny?

      Gmail invites won't get through to hotmail accounts

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    40. Re:Monopoly by double-oh+three · · Score: 1

      The post is meant to be 'in general, it's a good idea'. I understand that the filesystems are different and it would take time and money to port in this instance.

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    41. Re:Monopoly by vigilology · · Score: 1

      No it doesn't. Developing for 100% of the world's PCs makes sense.

    42. Re:Monopoly by yuting · · Score: 1

      Not when www.google.com now stores your preferences, e-mail, favourite news/searches/blah blah....

      Now TRY migrate them to www.newsearchengine.com...

    43. Re:Monopoly by kaschei · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not when the last 10% increases your costs twofold. Google is a company; they happen to have a moral directive, but their ultimate goal is money.
      Still, who knows-- perhaps on of the google labs folks will use this project for their "10% time" to keep their company unix-friendly.

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    44. Re:Monopoly by Captain+Gingersnaps · · Score: 2, Insightful

      OK, but which is quicker, the time it will take for Windows to lose half its market share, or the time it would take to port Picasa to other platforms? It's not like they've gone miles down a one-way street.

    45. Re:Monopoly by jesser · · Score: 1

      Is ICQ still "beta"?

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    46. Re:Monopoly by imbaczek · · Score: 1

      Welcome to a brave new Inter..., erm, Googlenet.

    47. Re:Monopoly by kisielk · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, according to correspondance I've had with support at Gmail, they are working on adding mail forwarding to Gmail. So #1 will not be a vaild complaint soon.

      Keep in mind that Gmail is still in the testing stages, and I'm sure the developers are swamped with bug fixes that they need to fix before they begin adding new features. I have already discovered and reported numerous bugs and received messages from gmail support that they have been forwarded to the appropriate developers. They will likely offer a way to download your emails in the future, I can't see what they would stand to lose from adding a feature like that.

    48. Re:Monopoly by Eccles · · Score: 1

      It does sound a lot like iPhoto, which has the Mac reasonably well covered. (Not to mention Adobe Photoshop Album, so Adobe may be worried this morning.) Has Google ever dabbled in open source software? Who knows, perhaps they'd be willing to open it up for Linux/BSD devotees. I wasn't able to find anything on Sourceforge for photo collection managemente when I last checked.

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    49. Re:Monopoly by macshit · · Score: 1
      Gmail's 1 GB mailbox without the option to (1) forward the messages, (2) move the whole mailbox elsewhere, looks just like locking the consumers in.

      You might think about doing a slight bit of research first.

      Forwarding is easy -- there's a "forward" button in the message display!

      As for bulk downloads, the gmail help system has this to say:

      Q: Does Gmail support automatic forwarding and POP3 access?

      A: Not at the moment, but Google believes in helping people access information whenever and however they want to do so. In the future you will be able to access Gmail messages from non-Gmail accounts for free or at a nominal fee.


      Given that google has proved trustworthy and reliable in the past (far more so than, e.g., yahoo), I see no reason not to take them at their word.
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    50. Re:Monopoly by __aawwih8715 · · Score: 1

      you get more than just 1 account per 20 bucks. Let me be more specific -- you get more than 1 email address. In fact you can have unlimited i think. they call them 'disposable' and you can make a bunch. i use them when using messagboards etc because when thye start getting spammed i can delete them and start a different one.

    51. Re:Monopoly by generic-man · · Score: 1

      No, I think a more appropriate term is "obsolete."

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    52. Re:Monopoly by shaping_innovation · · Score: 1

      You can definitely can forward the messages, it's the link marked "forward" right next to "reply".

    53. Re:Monopoly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Publishers can customize adsense color schemes. It's their stupidity.

    54. Re:Monopoly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google must really be idiots for expanding into a new area in a Windows only manner. How do they think they can make it supporting only 95% of the desktops out there?

    55. Re:Monopoly by MasterSLATE · · Score: 1

      Not to mention no png support!

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    56. Re:Monopoly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The service hasn't even launched yet! And once it does launch, it's not like the feature set is frozen forever.

      Item 6 from the gmail faq:

      "6. Does Gmail support automatic forwarding and POP3 access?

      Not at the moment, but Google believes in helping people access information whenever and however they want to do so. In the future you will be able to access Gmail messages from non-Gmail accounts for free or at a nominal fee."

      http://gmail.google.com/gmail/help/about.html#su pp ort

    57. Re:Monopoly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yahoo started off nice and simple, until they turned into bloated services. Hopefully Google stays smart and doesn't become like yahoo.

    58. Re:Monopoly by cpeterso · · Score: 1


      Was Napster never NOT beta?

    59. Re:Monopoly by maskedbishounen · · Score: 1

      (a bit late, but ohh well)

      Kind of like the Google Toolbar, eh?

      Ohh, wait...

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    60. Re:Monopoly by nwbvt · · Score: 1
      The point is google is more than just a search engine now. I used to use Yahoo a lot, but then I got mad at them (I think it was when I tried to cancel a service that I had purchased, but they never honored the cancelation, even after I had that credit card canceled (in fairness, they gave me my money back every month, but still...)). So I left Yahoo as my primary Internet portal, though I still use them quite a lot as I have a lot invested in them. I have a lot of email in my old account that I sometimes want to access, I use their fantasy leagues, and I would use LaunchCast if they would port it to browsers other than IE (maybe that was what pissed me off about Yahoo...).

      And I'm not one of those guys who gets stuck with an application forever and refuses to get a better one. Recently I dropped Windows and everything that came with it in favor of Linux. Now think how hard it would be for my mom, who panics if IE opens up to somewhere other than msn.com and she can't find hotmail, to change from google to some other service.

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    61. Re:Monopoly by CcntMnky · · Score: 1

      Wow, I think you pissed off all the beta testers. Nice going. So when are the developers coming over to your house for the "Punch the Troll" marathon?

    62. Re:Monopoly by Hitch · · Score: 1

      umm....my gmail account has a forward button.....

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    63. Re:Monopoly by dyscant · · Score: 1

      Exactly - I weighed my options of paying the 19.99$ per account for the archive and 2gb features but when I came across fetchyahoo I was very much impressed about the features and ease with which you can download mails from yahoo.

      It might be worth noting that a good friend of mine (also a /.er who likely won't post about this) had his Y! accounts taken away from him for "checking his mail without accessing the website" when he used fetchyahoo.

      Just a word of caution. Although it is a rather cool script.

    64. Re:Monopoly by Dashing+Leech · · Score: 1

      I, for one, welcome our new Google overlords.

    65. Re:Monopoly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Windows only is not a crime. Developing for 90% of the world's PC's only makes sense.

      IE only is not a crime. Developing for 90% of the world's browsers only makes sense.

    66. Re:Monopoly by crucini · · Score: 1

      I think the original poster meant the ability to configure the account to forward all mail to a new address. Say you use gmail for two years and hand out the address widely. Now you want to switch elsewhere. You don't want to lose mail during the transition.

      Obviously it's in Google's interest to make the switching cost as high as possible.

    67. Re:Monopoly by Mitchell+Mebane · · Score: 1

      I dunno about #2, but #1 should be coming soon. I asked if they had any plans to add PGP/GPG support, and this is what I got in reply:

      Hello,

      Thank you for your message.

      We apologize for the delayed response. Gmail is experiencing rapid growth.
      We have been working hard to keep pace with the popularity of our service
      while we respond to each individual message. We appreciate your patience.

      While Gmail does not currently support this functionality, we are testing
      many new features to improve the Gmail service. You might be interested to
      hear that we are working on the following:

      - Automatic forwarding of your email to another account
      - Plain HTML version of Gmail
      - Export Contacts

      We hope you enjoy Google's approach to email.

      Sincerely,

      The Gmail Team

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    68. Re:Monopoly by zonker · · Score: 0

      as pop3 access to gmail would be a nice addition (if they added native support instead of requiring folks to use 3rd party apps like pgtgm) i think a more interesting solution would be imap. it is a more logical extension of the idea to keep all your mail together on the server forever...

    69. Re:Monopoly by line.at.infinity · · Score: 1

      Not everything that's bad is criminal. Developing for 100% of the world's PCs makes more sense.

    70. Re:Monopoly by line.at.infinity · · Score: 1

      Well I take that back. Who knows which one makes *more* sense. I wasn't at the company's meeting when they discussed the pros and cons. Developing for n% only makes sense, too (where n = any value between 0 and 100).

    71. Re:Monopoly by line.at.infinity · · Score: 1

      Not when the last 10% increases your costs twofold.

      By your logic Mac applications wouldn't exist.

    72. Re:Monopoly by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      Unless they start talking together, which is often what happens.

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    73. Re:Monopoly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Blah... The question here to me is not to speculate about what Google will become, etc. You guys can "play" all you want debating stuff like that, it will all still be speculation.

      The point to me is, this acquisition makes very little sense, just like Blogger. It's just a lot of fuzz but little business sense. Rather than acquiring things that matter AND give a sense of direction (and make money!), they still seem to be playing with toys. Want to look at a company whose acquisitions have ALWAYS made a whole lot of sense? Look at eBay: Ricardo, iBazaar, PayPal... Keeping the eye on the ball and acquiring services to REALLY boost their core business. Google wants to get out of the "search only" label and it doesn't seem to me they've got it figured out yet... That is a problem for them today. Whatever they become in the future will be dictated by what they do today, and tomorrow... So far, two thumbs down...

    74. Re:Monopoly by empaler · · Score: 1

      Cost/benefit-analysis. It's called capitalism.
      Apart from that, Mac charges extra for everything, whereas doubling the price for the use of a free tool do not give extra money to pay the developers.

      And by all logic, Mac applications shouldn't exist.

    75. Re:Monopoly by babbage · · Score: 2, Informative

      The problem with that analysis is that it's much too kind to the underdog operating systems.

      I'm having a hard tiime finding good numbers, but it seems that Apple's market share has generally been in decline over the years, with most sources citing a market share or install base fluttering around three or four percent for the past couple of years, with some wildly optimistic speculation that Apple could hit eight percent by 2008.

      In the most recent report I could find, Apple's market share was put at 3.7%, with recent quarter growth of 9.3% -- but this is in a market where Dell alone has a share of 32.9%, and the market overall grew by 10.9% in the USA and 15.5% globally. That is to say, even though Apple is "growing" relative to their own recent performance, they're still not growing at a rate that keeps up with the industry as a whole, and they're especially slipping behind global figures. Their market share trend is going down, even as their health as an individual company appears to be holding steady or improving.

      Meanwhile, figures for Linux are harder to determine, but it seems that the past couple of years suggest that Linux has hovered at a steady 1%, so the picture isn't any stronger on that side -- they're doing at best 1/3 of what Apple is doing.

      (And yes, market share figures are all voodoo that is about as reliable as hardware benchmarks (that is to say, hardly reliable at all), but still, the discussion doesn't work if you don't at least take a stab at quantifying things. So please, grant me some leeway here :-)

      More to the point, it doesn't seem like Google has ever had a problem with catering to just the dominant platform. Consider the Google Toolbar, which has been available for years as an IE only plugin on Windows -- it has never been available for the Mac version of IE, and it has never been offered for other operating systems (they just meekly suggest putting links to Google in your Netscape bookmark bar, but that hardly counts for much). Admittedly, Mozilla has had third-party Google search plugins for a while now, and when Safari came out it had a built-in Google search box, but these were both provided by third-parties, not Google.

      The only client-side software Google has offered in the past has been for Windows and IE, and the Picassa acquisition is just a continuation of this pattern.

      I played around with Picassa for a little while last night, and it is a pretty slick application; I can see why they wanted it (the UI is quite clever, and they may want to put some of the people who thought it up to work on their existing web tools & webmail). I'd love to see a version of it for OSX (please, please something better than iPhoto), but I'm not convinced that that Google will bother porting it, based on the questionable market share trends and their past client-side offerings.

    76. Re:Monopoly by criordan · · Score: 1

      No, we should withold judgment in ICQ because it is impossible to get through their horrible website interface.

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    77. Re:Monopoly by line.at.infinity · · Score: 1

      So now you're saying developing free tools for Mac users doesn't make sense?

  2. Awesome! by nubbie · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yet a faster way to find pr0n... thanks google!

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    1. Re:Awesome! by foidulus · · Score: 1

      Though do you really want google to be digging through your pron? They might find that steakknife pr0n I have been keeping..



      Oh god I have said too much!

    2. Re:Awesome! by solowlr · · Score: 1

      All the photos on my drive are zipped and password protected, this Picasa isn't going to help much.

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  3. Well...I'm still waiting by incognitox · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This might be awesome, or it might not. I'm not overly impressed with Google's web picture search, so I'm not gonna hold my breath on this one. Their forte is search of text, and sure, you can put a million keywords or a clever description on each picture, but that doesn't really help me. I want to be able to sketch a rough version of the picture and have the system find all images which match it. Or how about identification of individual people? So that I can outline a section of a given picture and it'll find all other pictures which contain a similar section (AKA a given person).

    Then I'll get excited...

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    1. Re:Well...I'm still waiting by sseremeth · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Get imgseek.

    2. Re:Well...I'm still waiting by garcia · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or how about identification of individual people? So that I can outline a section of a given picture and it'll find all other pictures which contain a similar section (AKA a given person).

      Then I'll get excited...


      Then I'll get scared.

    3. Re:Well...I'm still waiting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >I want to be able to sketch a rough version of the picture and have the system find all images which match it. ...
      >Then I'll get excited...

      So you want a quicker way to find pr0n? ;)

    4. Re:Well...I'm still waiting by dj245 · · Score: 2, Informative
      I'm not overly impressed with Google's web picture search

      Depends on what you use it for. Google picture search was a godsend at college when I needed to find pictures of famous paintings so I could write reports about them. Even many obscure paintings (Try Castine Harbour by Lane) are found multiple times with google image search. Politicians, famous people, they're all there.

      It does need work (more options, better narrowing-down tools) but its a good tool.

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    5. Re:Well...I'm still waiting by Doodhwala · · Score: 1



      So you might not see it soon, but there are already research projects out there that are looking at exactly what you mention.

      For example, look at Intel's Diamond project. I am sure others will point you to more related work.

    6. Re:Well...I'm still waiting by incognitox · · Score: 1

      Just what the doctor ordered!

      Thanks.

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    7. Re:Well...I'm still waiting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and I want a pony!!

    8. Re:Well...I'm still waiting by write_with_numbers · · Score: 1

      Combine this with the Patriot Act and that nice new anti-terrorism computer with a terabyte of ram and it would be quite possible to assemble every picture of any individual in a file. I personally don't want the government having access to a few pictures from... we'll call them "college social events".

      With this system, however, we might get to see pictures of Bush doing a beer bong and that might just be worth it...

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    9. Re:Well...I'm still waiting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      O
      Searching for: /|\ , results 1-10 of 20,000...
      / \

    10. Re:Well...I'm still waiting by naiv · · Score: 1

      i heard on the history channel that they are working on software that lets you hum a song and then it will figure out which song it was. them != google. some university. so i am sure someone is working on that. google's image search is one of google's main search queries besides text. most people have no idea other search engines let you search by file extension, they are amazed when they discover image search.

    11. Re:Well...I'm still waiting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      something like http://imgseek.sourceforge.net/ maybe?

    12. Re:Well...I'm still waiting by QuantumG · · Score: 1

      Oh please, let the paranoid raving begin! I'd love to be able to search for every picture with my favourite star in it. Or my own face. Or an ipod. Or my girlfriend's face. Or my brother's.

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  4. Funny thing.. by yummy1991 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When microsoft "expands" we all bitch and whine, but then google goes out and devours companies and services, and its suddenly "cute".

    1. Re:Funny thing.. by Vitus+Wagner · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When microsoft "expands" we all bitch and whine, but then google goes out and devours companies and services, and its suddenly "cute".


      It is because:

      1. Google services just works and are not famous for their bugs and instability
      2. Google doesn't require you to upgrade your PC with each new release of their flagship product
      3. Google doesn't force PC manufacters to buidle their product with your hardware using unfair clauses in contracts
      4. Google customers do not send you documents in cryptic format which only Google products can read.
      5. Google is not designed to enable virus propagation.


      There was other point - you don't trust your data to Google. But since introduction of GMail this is no more true

    2. Re:Funny thing.. by Apocalypse111 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's because Microsoft has a proven history of stifling innovation, whereas Google has been doing nothing BUT innovation since their inception. Further, when MS expands, we can expect some technological offshoot of this expansion to be irrevocably tied to the OS with the next service pack, whereas Google still provides a better service while still leaving us the option of having it or not.

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    3. Re:Funny thing.. by PingKing · · Score: 1

      I believe a simple factor in this is the fact that Microsoft charge for their products and Google offer them for free. If Google started charging for access to their search engine and other technologies, there would be a huge backlash against them.

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    4. Re:Funny thing.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      When microsoft "expands" we all bitch and whine, but then google goes out and devours companies and services, and its suddenly "cute".

      It is because:

      1. Google services just works and are not famous for their bugs and instability


      Yep, and *they* know how to close italic tags too...

    5. Re:Funny thing.. by Senjutsu · · Score: 4, Funny

      My God, do you mean to say that people apply different standards for behavior to convicted monopolists than they do to, say, law-abiding corporations?!

      How strange.

    6. Re:Funny thing.. by manavendra · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Perhaps also because:

      1. google is relatively new, and is still expanding.
      2. There isn't any new upcoming companies that google has tried to smother (or at least hasn't been know to)
      3. Because google still isn't so big as to be deemed a giant monothlith. I think its too early right now for google to have any antagonists. I think for any company to be regarded "evil", it first has to permeate enough businesses/industry segments, and attain that critical mass that overpowers people.
      4. And finally, I think google has tried hard to not antagonize the geeks and the first line users. All new features are well thought out, and it tries (and usually succeeds) in doing to the best of its capability, whatever they choose to do

      However, with the rate google is expanding, it may not be long that they are thought of as "evil". Say when they come up with an auction-like website as well. After all they have the technology for it, don't they?

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    7. Re:Funny thing.. by X_Bones · · Score: 1

      None of your points are relevant. The original post was discussing the difference between Google and Microsoft in acquiring companies, not building products. Can you point to any actual evidence to refute it?

    8. Re:Funny thing.. by no+longer+myself · · Score: 1
      Wanna bet? Once people get hooked on something, they'll moan and groan about a price-hike or some restriction put into place, but ultimately they will still keep using it because "that's what everybody else uses".

      Believe me, I love using Google. They gained everyone's trust by keeping their interface simple and clean, provided excellent quality results, and did it with a seemingly ultruistic intent. It made for a very attractive package, especially for us "geek" types.

      But then it started looking like Wonka's factory. People started nosing around, wanting to know all of Google's secrets, and Google clammed up. I can't recall, but did they ever go IPO?

      To add to the mystery, they are starting to aquire other entities. With the previous FUD splashing around it raises the question, "How true are their intentions?"

      I'm not suggesting that Google is an evil villain about to decend upon the helpless nerds in a cyber-round-up, but it does need to be watched more closely.

      If the "Don't be evil" mantra doesn't hold true, then I doubt that those who were won over by that philosophy will cause any damage to what has become a true business giant.

      Google is powerful now, and we all know that power tends to corrupt. Just be careful which gods you choose to serve, and hey... "Don't be evil."

    9. Re:Funny thing.. by ink_13 · · Score: 1
      I think its too early right now for google to have any antagonists.

      Surely you've heard of Googlewatch?

    10. Re:Funny thing.. by Cereal+Box · · Score: 0

      Contrary to popular Slashdot belief, being a monopoly is not illegal (see for example the US Postal Service). It's what you do with your monopoly status that makes a difference.

      In other words, I find it highly unlikely that Microsoft was "convicted" of "being a monopoly."

    11. Re:Funny thing.. by hatter3bdev · · Score: 1

      Is there something wrong with trusting one company more than another? I think it just means that google is doing something right that Microsoft is not. -Joel

    12. Re:Funny thing.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://geekswithblogs.net/hdevos/archive/2004/03/2 4/3328.aspx
      http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0%2C175 9%2C667039%2C 00.asp

    13. Re:Funny thing.. by Cereal+Box · · Score: 1

      Still not convinced. "Convicted monopoly" may have been the wording used to describe whatever it was that Microsoft was convicted of, but I still assert that there is nothing wrong with simply BEING a monopoly. If there was, what about the USPS? They are undoubtedly a monopoly too (albeit a government-run one).

    14. Re:Funny thing.. by Otto · · Score: 1

      None of your points are relevant. The original post was discussing the difference between Google and Microsoft in acquiring companies, not building products. Can you point to any actual evidence to refute it?

      His points are totally relevant, and there doesn't need to be any evidence to refuse it because it's a simplistic view of the picture in the first place..

      Simply "expanding" is neither good nor bad. We boo Microsoft not because they expand, but because of all the other bad shit that is done. And when the enemy gets bigger, I'd say you have a good reason to boo them.

      Likewise, when the companies you like get bigger and offer free stuff because of it, well, I think a little props are in order. When was the last time Microsoft bought a company and paid them to make free software (free as in beer)?

      There's nothing to refute because the point is stupid to begin with.

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    15. Re:Funny thing.. by ceejayoz · · Score: 1

      I believe they were convicted of being an abusive monopoly.

    16. Re:Funny thing.. by Cereal+Box · · Score: 1

      Yes, that sounds more likely than being convicted simply because they are a monopoly.

      Either way, the myth that simply being a monopoly is illegal has been perpetuated on Slashdot for too long...

    17. Re:Funny thing.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know about you, but I don't see the difference between someone who robs a bank and someone who robs a bank after previously being convicted of the same crime.

    18. Re:Funny thing.. by damiam · · Score: 1

      MS was convicted of abusing its monopoly.

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    19. Re:Funny thing.. by gleam · · Score: 1

      Google services just works and are not famous for their bugs and instability

      Been to www.orkut.com, lately?

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    20. Re:Funny thing.. by Ari_Haviv · · Score: 1

      Windows is like that too...in Japan

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    21. Re:Funny thing.. by Senjutsu · · Score: 1

      Their a monopolist that's been convicted of abusing said monopoly. Hence, convicted monopolist.

    22. Re:Funny thing.. by hkmwbz · · Score: 1

      Orkut is not an official Google service. It was created by one guy who works at Google.

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  5. Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can anybody tell me why on this page I get the link to Picassa, but on this one, I get nothing.

    1. Re:Why? by yuting · · Score: 1

      Both pages have links to Picassa. But not on This one!

    2. Re:Why? by arieswind · · Score: 1

      google.com does not have the link for me.. interesting

    3. Re:Why? by fbform · · Score: 1

      Flush your browser cache and try again.

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    4. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      The flush, it does nothing.

    5. Re:Why? by suffe · · Score: 1

      Same thing for me. Neither www.google.com nor www.google.se shows the link. I flushed my cache and still the same thing. I wasn't convinced it wasn't cache related yet, so I made a short trip to www.google.jp just in case (since I've never been to that site). Still no link.

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    6. Re:Why? by CGP314 · · Score: 1

      For me, google.com does not have the link, but google.co.uk does.

    7. Re:Why? by New+Foreign+Gymnast · · Score: 1

      Using IE I can see it on google.co.uk, but not google.com. I'm in the UK. Using Firefox I can't see it on either.

    8. Re:Why? by Gribflex · · Score: 2, Informative

      Google randomly links to its products.
      You may have noticed (or you may not have, if you don't use IE) that when ou conduct a search w/o the google toolbar, sometimes the toolbar ad will appear at the bottom of the page, and sometimes it doesn't.

      Further, there are actually two toolbar ads (one with folding-at-home, and one without) that are selected at random as well.

      I'm not really sure why goold chooses random distribution of its products. But at least they are consistent.

      And it does help to keep their web page a little cleaner because I don't need to see all of the ads, all of the time; just some of the ads, some of the time.

  6. *shrug* by TheHonestTruth · · Score: 0
    Then I'll get excited...

    Sorry their warehouse full of Ph.D.s isn't working hard enough on R&D for you. Hopefully Google will pull their heads out of their asses and start innovating in some area.

    </sarcasm>

    -truth

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    1. Re:*shrug* by Black+Perl · · Score: 1

      Is that kneejerk sarcasm because you work there? Or do you have blind faith in all things Google? Or do you think all innovation comes from "warehouses full of Ph.D's"?

      Sorry, but that's the kind of attitude I would expect from someone working for a software company in Redmond.

      I happen to agree with the grandparent-post. The image search could be enhanced by taking it beyond surrounding-word analysis, perhaps by using a wavelet-decomposition index or other method of indexing by actual image contents. Perhaps you could refine your search by seeing your picture in the center of a block of nine similar pictures, where choosing one on the perimeter will move it to the center and you repeat until you find what you want. If you've ever used Photoshop's "Variations" tool you know what I'm talking about. This is just one hastily conceived example. There are a myriad other ways it could be improved.

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    2. Re:*shrug* by incognitox · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Exactly!

      What I was getting at in my original post was that everyone seems to think that as soon as Google touches something, it's immediately made amazing. Not true! They ruined Deja News for a _loooong time_ (Have you seen their latest beta for groups? Still needs work).

      In addition, we, as users, need to keep asking for new features and creating a _DEMAND_ for good products. I send in bugfixes & feature requests several times per week on Gmail. I think that Gmail is far and away _the best_ webmail product out there, but I still get irritated and fire off suggestions about portions of it which don't make sense (what's the point of being able to create a labeling filter that only applies one label? The whole point of labels is to be able to apply several!!!).

      So to sum it up, I'm interested, but just not immediately a Picassa zelot just because Google grabbed it...

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    3. Re:*shrug* by TheHonestTruth · · Score: 1
      Actually, I was just being funny. Picasa looks totally uninteresting to me. But you mentioned something like recognizing a person from a picture. Isn't this something the gov't has been trying to do for years and years with no (public) level of success? And yet you were annoyed because Google hasn't done it, for free no less? C'mon.

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    4. Re:*shrug* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TheHonestTruth's sig:
      I always MetaMod Overated as Unfair. Burn someone because you disagree with a moderator? Fuck that!

      heh heh... no you don't. Overrated never shows up in metamod.

      A little ticked at seeing that happen to you, eh?

    5. Re:*shrug* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually the government has had some success w/ implementing a system to recognize individuals from cameras mounted in cities (or at least parts of Tampa). The cameras focus on an individual, determine his/her facial proportions (a fairly personal trait, though not as personal as a fingerprint) and runs them through a database containing the facial proportions of criminals carrying warrents out for their arrest. If a match is found an officer is sent to question the individual. The cameras can be set to select people randomly, or a human operator can control where the cameras point and who they select. Kinda creepy, I never go to that part of town just in case.

    6. Re:*shrug* by pixel.jonah · · Score: 1

      For what it is - a very fast and simple tool to keep track of your digital photos - Picasa is amazing. Even in its current 1.x state, it's faster and easier to use than prettymuch anything else out there on the market. Their target apparently was iPhoto on the mac which is notoriously slow. It is definitely photo management for the rest of them and i'd venture to say it does a darn good job at it.

    7. Re:*shrug* by Frizzle+Fry · · Score: 1
      Isn't this something the gov't has been trying to do for years and years with no (public) level of success?

      Are you sure? My impression was that this technology is pretty good. Additionally, I know someone who did his thesis in college on facial recognition, and the impression he gave me is that this is a problem we have a pretty good handle on already.
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  7. Q: When will they start being evil? by soloport · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A: When they go public. :-/

    How many of you (probably would have to be not-so-wet behind the ears) have joined a truly excellent company, gotten your hopes up that "This is the company to last the rest of my career!" -- it's that good -- only to watch it go psycho when the board decides to take it public?

    No, the madness doesn't happen overnight. You slowly begin hearing about the symptoms as the pressure begins... "But it's the end of the month! This (shit) has to ship!", etc.

    Sad, but true and (by my experience) inevitable. I wish there were no rules which forced a company to commit what is essentially "fiscal lobotomy".

    1. Re:Q: When will they start being evil? by suffe · · Score: 1

      So very true. Most people seem to look at a company as an organism of sorts. "This is a friendly company" or "I love this company, they are great". What this, somewhat narrow, view fail to take in to account is that a company is no more an organism then the check out line at the local supermarket is.

      Companies evolve, one set of people come in and another set of people exit. Like you said, it doesn't have to happen over night, yet a good track record is in no way a sure thing for a a good track record in the future. There are probably a good deal of examples out there, but this beeing slashdot I'll just refere to SCO and be done with it.

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    2. Re:Q: When will they start being evil? by OmniVector · · Score: 2, Interesting

      that's kind of hard to do when the company's explicitly still going to be under the control of the two founders. if you read their IPO, they are retaining ownership of the company when it goes "public." it's actually unfounded, and google is the first to do this. since they have such high mindshare in the tech industry though they're managing to get away with it.

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  8. So let's see... by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 0, Troll

    - When I Google my name, I can see most of what I've been doing publicly on the net for the last 10+ years. Fair enough, I had no privacy expectation, but still scary to realize I actually said some pretty lame things I didn't remember.

    - Google has indexed 20 years worth of newsgroups. Again, I can't say I'm too pleased with some of the stuff I posted once (think "alt.binary."). But okay...

    - Google now "offers" 1G worth of email storage, and warns that they "may" use their searching technology on it. Now they don't even make the effort of ferreting info about you anymore, they plain and simply lure you into giving it to them

    - And now the personal information releasing trap widens with this new photo storage thing. hmmm...

    What next? in 5 years maybe I'll be able to google my name and see a private mail of mine saying "hey look at that d!rty picture of the secretary on my picasa account! (don't tell anyone about this, hey...)" with a nice link to my private picasa pic? Thanks but no thanks.

    I must say, google is cool, has cool technology and all, but their current trend of establishing 1984-ish new services and their tradition of extreme secrecy are starting to really disquiet and annoy me.

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    1. Re:So let's see... by na2rboy · · Score: 1

      - When I Google my name, I can see most of what I've been doing publicly on the net for the last 10+ years.

      http://www.jamesbest.com/

    2. Re:So let's see... by garcia · · Score: 0

      What next? in 5 years maybe I'll be able to google my name and see a private mail of mine saying "hey look at that d!rty picture of the secretary on my picasa account! (don't tell anyone about this, hey...)" with a nice link to my private picasa pic? Thanks but no thanks.

      After using GMail and deciding it's not for you and you delete all your mail, empty your trash, and delete your account does Google keep all that data in its index?

    3. Re:So let's see... by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 1

      After using GMail and deciding it's not for you and you delete all your mail, empty your trash, and delete your account does Google keep all that data in its index?

      Well, when a website goes 404, can you keep using the Google cache?

      'nuff said...

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    4. Re:So let's see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Can you post the pix of your secretary? Thanks.

    5. Re:So let's see... by kingstalemuffins · · Score: 1

      From what I can tell, no that I've looked into very carefully or anything, but this Picasa seems to be a program you download and keep you on your hard drive. I'm not sure if its something that will be searchable via a google internet search, probably only locally. But, i'm just making shit up, of course.

    6. Re:So let's see... by bamberg · · Score: 1

      >> After using GMail and deciding it's not for you and you delete all your mail, empty your trash, and delete your account does Google keep all that data in its index?

      Well, when a website goes 404, can you keep using the Google cache?

      'nuff said...


      I don't see how this applies to your email. The google cache is caching public data, whereas your email is private. Naturally Google has the technical ability to cache your private email (since it's on their servers) but I'm not sure they'd be on solid legal ground. They have the same legal responsibilities as any other email provider and if Hotmail or Yahoo or your ISP doesn't make your email public there's no reason to believe that Google would.

    7. Re:So let's see... by Senjutsu · · Score: 3, Informative

      No. They don't guarantee that your e-mail will be deleted from all their caches and backups the instant you delete it, but they do guarantee that it will get wipped as those things are updated.

      The same thing is true of pretty much any webmail service, though.

    8. Re:So let's see... by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 1

      I don't see how this applies to your email. The google cache is caching public data, whereas your email is private. Naturally Google has the technical ability to cache your private email (since it's on their servers) but I'm not sure they'd be on solid legal ground.

      Well of course, your email is private (although that's debatable), and Google isn't supposed to index any of it. But all the same, I don't like the concentration of easily cross-referenceable data into the hands of one company, as good as it appears to be, for various good reasons.

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    9. Re:So let's see... by goeken · · Score: 1

      Might we see a expire in so many days tag in the future if search engines get to powerfull? On the flip side I can see a lot of people complaining saying if you did not want it viewed by the public don't put it their. I can't see any easy answers. It's not like putting information up on a public bulletin board in real life where the paper gets taking down or fades to blank.

    10. Re:So let's see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must have short term memory loss, because just about everything you crap out of your mouth is lame.

      ... says random /. user #150790 who's entire posting history is one big -1 rating after 1300+ posts.

      Were you ever bullied at school? Kids can be cruel with the mentally disadvantaged...

    11. Re:So let's see... by SilkBD · · Score: 2, Informative

      Don't forget your tin foil cap. They already use Google search technology on gmail. But it's limited to your access rights to your email. Nobody else can search your email.

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    12. Re:So let's see... by TheVidiot · · Score: 1

      When I Google my name, I can see most of what I've been doing publicly on the net for the last 10+ years

      Sure, there's lots to see when you were a character in a hit 70's TV show, Rosco.

    13. Re:So let's see... by bamberg · · Score: 1

      Well of course, your email is private (although that's debatable), and Google isn't supposed to index any of it. But all the same, I don't like the concentration of easily cross-referenceable data into the hands of one company, as good as it appears to be, for various good reasons.

      You won't get any arguments from me about the (U.S.) Government's attempts to pry into people's lives but I don't see how Google is any more of a danger than any other major email provider (like Yahoo or Hotmail). Google's caching of regular pages seems irrelevant.

      I suppose the best bet is to use encryption. Sure if the Government focuses on you personally they'll simply throw you in jail until you give up your keys but encrypting your mail will keep it from being indexed and searched, whoever your provider is. Is GMail only accessible through a web interface or can you use pop or imap to retrieve the messages? Encrypting would be pretty pointless if you had to turn it into cleartext on their systems before you could read it.

    14. Re:So let's see... by batkins · · Score: 3, Insightful
      - When I Google my name, I can see most of what I've been doing publicly on the net for the last 10+ years. Fair enough, I had no privacy expectation, but still scary to realize I actually said some pretty lame things I didn't remember.

      This is not insightful - it's a total troll. How is it Google's fault that things you've said show up in searches for your name? That's the point of a search engine. If you say stupid things on the Internet, they're going to be visible whether Google is there or not. The only solution is not being stupid.

      - Google has indexed 20 years worth of newsgroups. Again, I can't say I'm too pleased with some of the stuff I posted once (think "alt.binary."). But okay... So did Deja. And if you have Usenet access you could do this yourself.

      - Google now "offers" 1G worth of email storage, and warns that they "may" use their searching technology on it. Now they don't even make the effort of ferreting info about you anymore, they plain and simply lure you into giving it to them

      - And now the personal information releasing trap widens with this new photo storage thing. hmmm...

      What next? in 5 years maybe I'll be able to google my name and see a private mail of mine saying "hey look at that d!rty picture of the secretary on my picasa account! (don't tell anyone about this, hey...)" with a nice link to my private picasa pic? Thanks but no thanks.

      Whoa, what a total non sequitur. Google uses their search engine to let you search through your mail and lets you store pictures, so the obvious next step is that Gogole will index your e-mail for public searching?

      Give it a rest.

    15. Re:So let's see... by Anonymous+Cowpat · · Score: 0

      sort of like how when I just got a 'register' box which had my email address already in it for me...
      Unfortunately, I'm a big softy willing to give Google the benefit of the doubt & assume that they just scavved it from outlook express, but picasa and downloader.exe and definately not getting internet access through zonealarm.

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    16. Re:So let's see... by binux · · Score: 1

      How did this get modded insightful?

      What google has indexed is stuff you have posted on the web or newsgroups for everyone to see. So what's your problem with that being seen by all? Are you planning to send cease and desist notices to all groups and mailing lists where you've posted lame stuff in the last 10 years?

      How did you read "Google may use their search technology" to mean your private mails will be searchable by all. You really do post lame stuff.

    17. Re:So let's see... by clink · · Score: 1

      I was smarter than that. I never once posted anywhere with my real info. I knew this stuff would be archived. Somebody always saves even the most inconsequential info. See, you can't run for president because they'll be dragging up your porn posts. Not me though. I can still run for President. Yeah. Cool.

    18. Re:So let's see... by alphakappa · · Score: 1

      What next? in 5 years maybe I'll be able to google my name and see a private mail of mine saying "hey look at that d!rty picture of the secretary on my picasa account! (don't tell anyone about this, hey...)" with a nice link to my private picasa pic? Thanks but no thanks.

      Google does not let others search your email.

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    19. Re:So let's see... by xigxag · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I was going to mod you down but decided to respond instead.

      Your comment is 100% FUD. Suddenly it's bad that Google is archiving newsgroups? It's not only Google's fault that you posted binaries in the first place, and that you were too dumb to use X-no-archive, but that you can't figure out how to follow their procedure for removing old posts?

      And why do you put the word "offer" in scare quotes? Are you implying it's not really an offer, it's something else of unknown malevolence? Look. Google is, above all, a business, not a public service. Yes, they may do unknown, evil twisted things with your email. Poring through it with their grubby little computers, applying their sick, patented algorithms to search for phrases, using your most private thoughts for nefarious adword-enabling purposes. Those bastards!!11!! But hey, here's a clue. Don't sign up for GMail if that's your concern. End of story. There's no reason why their behavior should start to "really disquiet and annoy" you unless you have one of those psychological compulsions that prevents you from turning down free shit.

      Maybe you shouldn't post here either. You might say something you regret in 20 years. Oh, too late!

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    20. Re:So let's see... by firew0lfz · · Score: 1

      "and warns that they "may" use their searching technology on it. "

      Actually, I noticed that the other day while using gmail. My cousin had mailed me a personal letter detailing a health problem my aunt has and how they had been to several doctors to figure out the problem... lo and behold, to the right of my email in gmail, there is a text advert for listings of doctors and other health-related adverts. Go figure.

      Got me thinking about what really google will do with your emails.

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    21. Re:So let's see... by hkmwbz · · Score: 1
      "can't figure out how to follow their procedure for removing old posts?"
      Nice theory, but I have tried to get newsgroups postings made with an address I no longer have access to removed. They never even reply when I ask them to remove things manually.

      The automatic tool is nice, but I may not be able to use it, and I may have perfectly legit reasons to remove it. Why won't they even respond when I contact them?

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  9. I am impressed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    The user interface, while being modern and a bit playful is still very clear. The performance is quite good. What I am missing are many many keyboard shortcuts though.

    1. Re:I am impressed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that scrollbar sucks when you have a lot of images. It takes forever to get through them.

    2. Re:I am impressed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The webpage for this software is really lacking in information. I'd like a little more about the details of what sets this apart from other programs.

      I guess I'll give them a couple extra days to get to this :)

  10. Well.. by manavendra · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think its a classic example of building your business around your strength - the searching capability.

    It shouldnt come across as a surprise that google wants to build components/lines of business around their core strength - be it news, images, blogs or whatever else.

    Though what they do need to watch out for is the acceptance, usability and and value provided by these tools in the long run (~5 years). We have all seen numerous examples of companies that had a killer product, but failed to replicate that success elsewhere.

    Like someone else mentioned, their image searching capabilities aren't as desirable currently. I haven't been so impressed with google groups yet (though I've heard that's going to be revamped as well). And then there's news and email in beta... so yes, they do have a lot on their plate, and given the poor run of tech industry at the stock market, all eyes will be on them!

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    1. Re:Well.. by singleantler · · Score: 1

      You can have a look at what Google are doing with their new version of Groups via the Groups 2 beta

      From what I've seen, it's basically putting something like Yahoo groups on top of the existing Usenet-archive system they're running, with some interface changes that are shared with GMail (e.g. putting a star on threads so they can be tracked easily, single sign-in for GMail and Groups.)

      I'm not sure this is a great idea unless there it is obvious what is a Usenet newsgroup and what is solely a Google group. I find Usenet very helpful and Google aren't the only people archiving it, so I'd like to be sure that where I'm posting info is getting archived in multiple places rather than going in an internal system, as Yahoo have.

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    2. Re:Well.. by manavendra · · Score: 1

      Thanks. Though I would like to make just one more comment - I recall a discussion in the past about google caching UseNet (and other) newsgroups, and also allowing uers to post.

      However, it was pointed out that, when the users post, their post was not correct submitted/sent to the actual newsgroup (or perhaps not on the same day/date, or not in the correct thread, or was probably declined by the target newsgroup for whatever reason), and thus the user's would not receive any comments/responses.

      And if that's true, then I don't think would be too happy about it - for if they can only read at google, they would still have to go someplace else to interact. And if they do, then google's motive fails, doesn't it?

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    3. Re:Well.. by singleantler · · Score: 1

      I've never had that problem myself, whenever I've posted to newsgroups, with the current version or 2 beta, it's gone to the correct newsgroup and thread. It takes a few hours to turn up, but that's not too unusual with usenet.

      I don't know whether people have tripped over some effectively private newsgroups that still get spidered for useful info. For instance, the Macromedia newsgroups (which also mirror the content of their support forums) apparently reject posts from some news services.

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    4. Re:Well.. by glinden · · Score: 1
      • I think its a classic example of building your business around your strength - the searching capability.
      Google's other strength is their massive cluster which, combined with their file system, allows them to store and retrieve tremendous amounts of data. Storing digital images fits nicely into this core competency.
  11. sp7zFh5.exe by cosmicpossum · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Has anyone downloaded and installed Picasa? As part of the install I get a ZoneAlarm alert saying sp7zFh5.exe is trying to use Picasa to access the internet.

    I think it is questionable coding practice to have obscurely named subprocesses running around wanting to get to the net.

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    1. Re:sp7zFh5.exe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you running wine?

      Only instances I can find.

    2. Re:sp7zFh5.exe by sseremeth · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's only checking for a new rev.. You can turn it off in the preferences.

    3. Re:sp7zFh5.exe by LincolnQ · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Wait...

      you're telling me you searched Google for the name of the executable trojan that comes with their own product? And you think they would reveal this information why?

    4. Re:sp7zFh5.exe by 14erCleaner · · Score: 1

      The system requirements include IE and DirectX, as well as Windows. For security reasons, there's no way I'm going to touch this thing.

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  12. Picasa doesn't work on my Mac :P by objekt · · Score: 1

    nt

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    1. Re:Picasa doesn't work on my Mac :P by TedCheshireAcad · · Score: 1

      yeah i was about to say, "WHERE THE MAC VERSION AT". i think google is slipping, this is a half assed effort.

    2. Re:Picasa doesn't work on my Mac :P by 1000101 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Man, I really hate to break this to you, but.... thousands of software titles won't work on your Mac (or mine for that matter).

    3. Re:Picasa doesn't work on my Mac :P by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google didn't write the software.

      They just bought a Windows program, and made it free.

    4. Re:Picasa doesn't work on my Mac :P by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      iPhoto kicks Picasa's ass. You're not missing anything.

      Picasa has tried to make something nice, but it really falls short if you want to do anything but organize (which, given editing is part of what they bill as features, sucks).

    5. Re:Picasa doesn't work on my Mac :P by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure that all the Windows users are jealous of the might of ClarisWorks!!

    6. Re:Picasa doesn't work on my Mac :P by Agent000 · · Score: 1

      iPhoto has nearly identical functionality to Picasa. Actually, it would probably be safe to say that Picasa borrowed concepts heavily from iPhoto.

  13. Have the improved the Picasa software? by will_die · · Score: 4, Informative

    With this new version has google removed the adware and spyware that Picasa use to be known for?
    They also use to be a big spammer mainly doing it on usenet, go ridance to that part of them.

    1. Re:Have the improved the Picasa software? by PhiberOptix · · Score: 1

      from the website >>

      The download itself contains only the Picasa software. Picasa will not uninstall other programs or add any non-Picasa programs or files to your computer.

      but i have not installed the software, so i dont know if thats true.

    2. Re:Have the improved the Picasa software? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was never adware. They used to buy lots of on-line advertising, but the client (software itself, installer, etc.) never did anything related to that. While I don't support the type of ads they were buying, they were just a small company trying to promote themselves.

    3. Re:Have the improved the Picasa software? by DukeyToo · · Score: 1

      +5 informative!!? Parent post is a complete troll. Picasa has no spyware or adware, and I have never heard of them spamming usenet.

      I have owned the software for about a year now, and it is good, quality stuff.

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    4. Re:Have the improved the Picasa software? by pixel.jonah · · Score: 1

      I don't think it even did a registration check when you had to put a key in the trial version.

      It's pretty clean - if you look into who wrote it - they're no johnny-come-latelys to the desktop graphics software biz.

  14. AskJeeves? by peterdaly · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "With the IPO, Google will have huge pockets. This could put Google in the market to buy a much larger player, such as AskJeeves or even AOL," he said.

    I don't think the person who wrote this really understands Google's business. Google for the most part has been buying up innovative technologies which require relativley low overhead to run or integrate. I don't view AskJeeves as innovative, and don't view AOL as low overhead by any means.

    I know this is nitpicking a small relativly not important part of the article, but it lept out at me as a "huh?" section.

    -Pete

  15. One more thing... by Civil_Disobedient · · Score: 4, Insightful

    6. Google is free.

    1. Re:One more thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      6. Google is free.

      For now...

    2. Re:One more thing... by Cereal+Box · · Score: 1

      Internet Explorer is free too. Doesn't stop anyone from bitching about it.

    3. Re:One more thing... by binaryspiral · · Score: 1

      This would imply that I actually paid for my applications and operating system.

      Psshh-yeah right. And monkeys my fly out of my butt.

    4. Re:One more thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thats because it doesn't comply to standards. If it was free and complied to standards, I wouldn't bitch at all about it. I promise I'd just use Mozilla quietly and not be affected by IE's lack of features.

    5. Re:One more thing... by Cereal+Box · · Score: 1

      Mozilla isn't 100% standards compliant either, depending on your definition of "standards". For example, Mozilla isn't 100% compliant with CSS 3 (a holy grail W3C standard, no less!), if I remember correctly.

    6. Re:One more thing... by smagruder · · Score: 1

      There's Mozilla bugs with respect to CSS1/2 compliance as well.

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    7. Re:One more thing... by hkmwbz · · Score: 1
      "Mozilla isn't 100% compliant with CSS 3 (a holy grail W3C standard, no less!)"
      CSS3 is not an official recommendation yet, just a candidate.

      Obviously Mozilla, Opera and other standards compliant browsers aren't 100% bug free, but that cannot even be compared to IE. IE can't even get basic stuff right. Not to mention all the non-standard extensions in IE.

      That Mozilla isn't 100% standards compliant is just a strawman argument, and cannot defend the fact that IE doesn't even get the basic stuff right.

      There's a difference with a good implementation with a few bugs and an implementation which is flawed from the ground up.

      Get off your high horse, IE lover. Just because it is cool to defend IE against perfectly valid criticism these days, that doesn't mean that most of the arguments IE apologists use to justify IE's serious flaws are nonsense.

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  16. I'm Concerned by youngerpants · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Google became a great company by sticking to its business plan; back linked search rankings with a simple interface.

    Then came GIS, which still focuses on the main business, then came the toolbar which starts encroaching on the PC/ browser, then came IRC search... can you see where I'm heading

    Which other company can we think of who add more and more functionality to an existing product... as long as this doesnt effect Googles core business, no problem, but this is very rarely the case.

    Will we even recognise Google in 5 years time (or less)

    1. Re:I'm Concerned by dissy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      IRC search?
      Dunno if that was a typo or not, but thats news to me..
      Any info on that you could share?

    2. Re:I'm Concerned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The thing is, though, if I didn't read Slashdot, I wouldn't know about most of the other things that Google does - their search page hasn't really changed. When you go to their webpage it's still the colorful Google graphic and a text box for your search. The interface is still as simple and easy to use as ever.

      They're not messing up what they're best at by integrating things from their side projects. Now when Google adds a Java applet to display Clippy (or OpenOffice's little lightbulb icon) to help you search, I'm gonna be scared.

    3. Re:I'm Concerned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to well-connected industry sources, Google plans to buy Internet Relay Chat quote aggregator bash.org in a deal valued at $100 million in stock.

      Bash.org representatives could not be reached for comment.

    4. Re:I'm Concerned by jbarr · · Score: 1
      "...then came the toolbar which starts encroaching on the PC/ browser..."

      I TOTALLY disagree. First off, the Google Toolbar is a "by choice" download. Nothing forces you to use it.

      Second, the Google Toolbar adds functionality to Internet Explorer (and as I understand it, similar functionality is availible as an add-on in some other browsers) that isn't otherwise there...and these are very basic functions. If Microsoft won't implement them, then why not let a third-party fill the gap?

      I use the Google Toolbar daily--it's really made IE a much better tool. And Google does it in the "Google way" by keeping it unobtrusive, clean, and useful.
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  17. I seen this by omar.sahal · · Score: 1, Interesting

    .........and thought of downloading it, what stopped me was that i thought this company does not charge for there software, how do they make money. Are they making money buy selling info about what we are looking at on our hardrives. If this isn't the case then what motivated the purchase of this company, that doesn't haven't revenue streams that I can see of. Or are Google interested in the technology from this company.

    1. Re:I seen this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe Google is trying to get a lot of adoption for the technology. The software is decent and relative to most other winders software is actually fairly easy to use and and the user interface is ahead of its time (for winders crap). This is the first time it's been free (TMK), but doesn't free or cheap software to generate a user base sound familiar?

    2. Re:I seen this by stranger · · Score: 1

      The software used to be around $30. This whole 'free' thing seems to be a new development.

    3. Re:I seen this by TheGavster · · Score: 1

      Perhaps my browser is free because the authors are collecting data on the web sites I visit, or my email client is free because it forwards my mail to the author ... or maybe these things are free because the authors want a large userbase rather than large bank accounts, all the better to get feature requests/bug reports and make the software better.

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    4. Re:I seen this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or maybe these things are free because the authors want a large userbase

      And why do they want a large userbase? (remembering that Google is going public...)

    5. Re:I seen this by Stuart+Gibson · · Score: 1

      Picasa has only become free since being acquired by Google. It was a reasonably priced product to start with and the speed in use is fantastic. It's still a little rough around the edges and has a lot of missing features. I think what most Picasa users will now be thinking is "What does this mean for version 2", which had been promised for an early Summer release.

      However, I am hoping that the Google injection will really give the developers a lot more incentive to really turn the next version into a great product and being it up to iPhoto standards (before Apple get iPhoto for Windows out the door - disclaimer, I have no evidence they ever intend to).

      Stuart

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    6. Re:I seen this by TheGavster · · Score: 1

      To eventually reap huge profits from the lock in they've generated, either by exploiting it or selling it off for someone else to exploit, of course. Point is people who give you software for free are more likely to be out for your wallet than your personal information.

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  18. Google a threat? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    We've seen google expand into other areas, generally involving search or adding search technology to something else.

    This is understandable, they've saturated the search engine market, a company has to grow if it is to survive, with the market saturated, where *can* they grow?

    I like and use google but have to wonder if they are (or will be) a threat in terms of making it difficult for companies to conduct business on the internet by hiding or "tweaking" the search results. Will the internet "sense this as damange and route around it" or, will people not even realize the results have been adjusted?

    Right now, they don't seem threatening, it would appear anyone could compete with them since the internet is open standards based. As a company, they appear remarkably ethical (which can change as new managers appear..) the 64k question is, are they or will they become a monopoly?

  19. Re:Nice Editorial Work, Michael.... by na2rboy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Shouldn't call someone lame and lazy for overlooking something if you spell Picasa "Picaso".

  20. Sorta looks like... by KJE · · Score: 2, Informative

    From the screenshots and description it sort of looks like iPhoto for Winodws, no?

    1. Re:Sorta looks like... by stranger · · Score: 2, Informative

      I actually downloaded the trial a while back. Personlly, I liked it alot. It *is* a lot like iPhoto, but there are quite a few different or additional features. It's also quite snappy. In my experience, it felt quite a bit faster than iPhoto.

    2. Re:Sorta looks like... by JakeSpencer · · Score: 0

      That's the first thing I thought when I started using it last night. It feels a whole lot like iPhoto for Windows, but it runs very good on my ole 700 MHz/128 Ram, much faster than iTunes does. I like it a lot.

  21. Look at me! I'm a Troll! by numbski · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Okay, so I love Google like the rest of you. They are privately held, seem to actually have a sense of ethics, and tend to do things 'the right way'.

    That said, Google is starting to get big. Really big.

    As in big enough to throw it's weight around big. I'm not opposed to this, in fact I'd be first in line (or rather as close to the front as I could get) for a Google IPO, but at what point does the whole competition getting squashed thing become a concern?

    I'll say it again, I love Google.

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  22. googledot anyone? by bobaferret · · Score: 1

    when will google start providing content similar to slash based sites?

    1. Re:googledot anyone? by karl_marzd · · Score: 1

      I don't think google is in the manure business :-)

  23. System Requirements ..??? by KnightWolfJK · · Score: 0
    <snip>
    SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS:

    # Microsoft® Windows 98, Microsoft® Windows Me, Microsoft® Windows 2000, or Microsoft® Windows XP.

    # Microsoft® Internet Explorer 5.01 (6.0 recommended). If at any time you get an "unable to authenticate" error, you should upgrade to IE 6.0.

    </snip>
    Seems a little one-sided to me...

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  24. this is nothing. I want to see more by xutopia · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Microsoft has plenty of ressources and offerings that Google isn't giving. For example MS can leverage their browser, they can package any picture software they want into their next OS or Service Pack, they have an IM which tells users when they receive an email from someone.

    What Google needs to do is extend what it is offering and blow MS out of the water. If more companies join then MS will have to start playing fair or die.

    Google, please :

    1. package Firefox 1.0 with added features as the GoogleFox browser
    2. make Picasa run on Linux and Mac
    3. offer an IM ala Jabber that allows us to get email notification like MSN Messenger does.
    4. extend your Gmail offering to other people than the limited bunch currently seen

    Then and only then will Google's offerings be competing with MS. All of this can be done very cheaply and unless Google get's moving MS will crush them with Marketing power and their market power.

  25. Google by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Am I the only one who uses Google as a quick spellchecker?

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    1. Re:Google by tehcyder · · Score: 5, Funny
      yse

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    2. Re:Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      certainly not Harvey. And you can use it to find humerous misspellings too, my favourite being:
      a list of people who can't spell dyslexia.

      Shamelessly stolen from NTK.

    3. Re:Google by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 4, Funny
      yse

      Whta?

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    4. Re:Google by hendridm · · Score: 1
      Am I the only one who uses Google as a quick spellchecker?

      This is Slashdot - I think you're appealing to the wrong crowd ;) (with appologies to those who don't speak English as their native language)

    5. Re:Google by Saluton_Mondo · · Score: 1


      IMHO The calculator feature is also truly inspired

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    6. Re:Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use it as a dictionary too, the define: option has helped me in many a heated debate.

    7. Re:Google by suffe · · Score: 2, Informative

      You do realize you are using a large section of the internet* to validate your spelling? I'll say it again, the internet. I'm willing to bet that if someone did some statistical analysis on this it would show that more people spell things wrong then right.

      *Yes, yes, only parts of it. I am aware of the other parts. No need to be nostalgic and bring up gopher or be nit-picking and bring up ssh et cetera.

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    8. Re:Google by pjt33 · · Score: 1
      I'm willing to bet that if someone did some statistical analysis on this it would show that more people spell things wrong then right.
      More people spell things wrong then right than do what?
    9. Re:Google by suffe · · Score: 1

      Although that was most likely not your intention I'd say you are making my argument all the more valid. =)

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    10. Re:Google by telstar · · Score: 1
      "I'm willing to bet that if someone did some statistical analysis on this it would show that more people spell things wrong then right."
      • So you're saying they spell it wrong the first time ... then they correct themselves and spell it right the second time? Wrong
      • THAN right. Either you goofed, or I missed the sarcasm.
    11. Re:Google by suffe · · Score: 1

      Have a look at the first reply I got to the post and follow that thread. It's on thing when people doesn't "Read The Fucking Article" but at least "Read The Fucking Posts" =)

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    12. Re:Google by stienman · · Score: 1

      Have you ever played whack a mole with a 5 pound sledghammer? It's quite fun, and the darn mole doesn't come back up after 9 strikes.

      So, about using the internet as a spellchecker...

      -Adam

    13. Re:Google by MarcosL · · Score: 1

      hahahaa, me do 2. We non anglo speaking beasts use it a lot. Google for the rest of the world, yeah!!!

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    14. Re:Google by suffe · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure if you intended to post to the parent of my post, i.e. refering to the fact that using google as a spellchecker is massive overkill, or if you meant to reply to my post, i.e. refering to the fact that sometimes overkill is good. Either way I think I'll stick with an online dictionary instead of google as often as I can.

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    15. Re:Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dolt. You should've said, "more people spell things wrong than right." You misspelled "than." pjt33 caught you, but you still didn't notice. As your original statement stood, you were saying that more people spell things wrong, then realize their mistakes and correct their spelling, than... what?

      Maybe you need to use Google more.

    16. Re:Google by suffe · · Score: 1

      Doh! I got it the first time it was pointed out and I got it the second time it was pointed out, hence the reason I told "telstar" to read my reply to "pjt33". Makes a bit more sense now, doesnt it?

      Perhaps telling you to read that post is not the best idea after all, since there I refered to this thread. This will all cause a loop of refering that might never end if the reader does not pay attention.

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  26. Only MS-Windows support, move along by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 2, Informative

    Checking out the Picasa site looks like it only supports MS-Windows. No Linux or MacOS X support. Oh well.

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    1. Re:Only MS-Windows support, move along by Alazoral · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No Mac OS X support makes me a sad walrus :( hopefully they'll write a plugin for iPhoto or Portfolio or something or port it. Please Google, Mac users have lots of photos too, whether they are designers or grandparents. Or designers who are grandparents. Or designers who design grandparents.

    2. Re:Only MS-Windows support, move along by blakey_4 · · Score: 1

      Did anyone notice Picasso looks alot like iPhotos? It's actually nicer than iPhotos.

  27. Re:Nice Editorial Work, Michael.... by na2rboy · · Score: 1, Funny

    I don't get paid for accuracy, timeliness, and relevancy on Slashdot. I do it gratis.

    Aye, and you get what you pay for.

  28. Re:this is nothing. I want to see more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    4. extend your Gmail offering to other people than the limited bunch currently seen

    Looks like somebody didn't get a gmail invite. D'oh!

  29. Only if you already have the porn... by oneiros27 · · Score: 1

    I mean, it's searching your local files... have you really gone to that much trouble to organize and classify all of your porn?

    I'm guessing that at least some people won't, for fear that someone might find the kiddle porn folder, which you then can't claim 'I don't know how that got there'.

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    1. Re:Only if you already have the porn... by WormholeFiend · · Score: 1

      have you really gone to that much trouble to organize and classify all of your porn?

      props to him, says I.

      Just try to search kaza for pr0n, and try to download non-dupclicates...

    2. Re:Only if you already have the porn... by InfinityWpi · · Score: 1

      Back in college (about, oh, seven years ago), our apartment full of geeks was gonna go out to catch a movie, and my roommate stated he couldn't go with us because he had some computer work to do... sorting his porn. We didn't believe him until another guy went over to look at his screen and siad, "Well, whaddya know... he's sorting his porn."

      We decided it was time to leave.

  30. desktop Integration? by bobaferret · · Score: 1

    With longhorn comming out and it's "uber" organization and searching abilities (please note sarcasm). I wonder if it would be possible through future webservices to have the exact same functionality provided by google but for the desktop? For example document storage and such through them. Based on a per user basis, or per group etc. I'd love to do all my backup through google, or store documents there that I can then get from home or on the road. Address books and calendaring would also be cool.

    The difference between them an MS in this case being that I trust google, and I trust them to get it right.

    1. Re:desktop Integration? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " With longhorn comming out "

      Mod above poster at least +2 funny! He made a joke about longhorn coming out!

      The truth is that longhorn will always be the "technology around the corner." We'll not see it within 5 years :) I'm sure.

    2. Re:desktop Integration? by bobaferret · · Score: 1

      Which is why with google being close to having similar capabilities in the near future, it would be an easy way to add longhorn like capabilities to the Linux desktop long before longhorn. It address the the whole catch up vs. inovation thing that OSS is always being accused of.

    3. Re:desktop Integration? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      idiot google is a m$ offshoot.

  31. Does it run on Linux? by doodlelogic · · Score: 2, Informative

    (No.) Here are the minimum system requirements for Picasa: Personal computer with 300MHz Pentium® processor and MMX® technology. 64 MB RAM (128MB recommended). 50 MB available hard disk space. 800 x 600 pixels, 16 bit color monitor. Microsoft® Windows 98, Microsoft® Windows Me, Microsoft® Windows 2000, or Microsoft® Windows XP. Microsoft® Internet Explorer 5.01 (6.0 recommended). If at any time you get an "unable to authenticate" error, you should upgrade to IE 6.0. Microsoft® DirectX 7.0 or higher (8.1 ships with XP, 9.0b recommended). Optional: 56K Internet connection speed (for access to any online services and picture sharing via Hello). Works with JPEG, TIFF, GIF, BMP, PSD, AVI, MPG, ASF, and WMV files No, it doesn't run on Linux, nor on Macs, nor my old 486sx running windows 3.1 that I still keep half my photos on (early digital camera adopter).

    1. Re:Does it run on Linux? by dacarr · · Score: 1

      As another poster noted, it's Google's now. They can make it Linux or Mac or even OS/2 compatible if they want.

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  32. Software Giant in the making? by blackmonday · · Score: 2, Interesting

    One of Google's primary strengths is its software, no doubt they're trying to capitalize on that. Do I see Google becoming the Apple within Microsoft? Isn't their other product a search application that you download and run within windows, effectively competing with Microsoft's explorer? Now this program, which reminds me of iPhoto (download from the camera easily, print, organize, etc). This is a competitor to Windows XP's built-in photo management.

    Google is competing with Microsoft, and using their own operating system against them!

    1. Re:Software Giant in the making? by generic-man · · Score: 1

      Windows XP doesn't have any "built-in photo management." There's a wizard to download photos from your computer and a separate wizard (really just IE embedded in a small dialog box) to upload your photos to Shutterfly for printing.

      It looks like Google plans to compete with Longhorn's built-in searching on file metadata. Since we don't even know all the details about that yet, it would be hard to call a winner.

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    2. Re:Software Giant in the making? by KD5YPT · · Score: 1

      Would be a tough fight for Google, fighting on MS's home turf... nothing like an epic struggle to liven up our day.

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    3. Re:Software Giant in the making? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft within Microsoft. What does Microsoft do? Buy companies. What does Google do? Buy companies.

  33. glad this got posted here by voudras · · Score: 1

    hopefully they will note the massive number of linux clients hittin' it and decide to release the source so we can port it.

    1. Re:glad this got posted here by meadowsp · · Score: 1

      Most visitors to Slashdot are running MS Windows.

  34. Restrictions? by Stone316 · · Score: 1

    I took at look at their website and FAQ's but i can't seem to find any information on how much space you get? Does it cost anything?

    tnx.

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    1. Re:Restrictions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aren't you looking for gmail?

  35. Re:Nice Editorial Work, Michael.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Notice that the title of the story is "Google Acquires Picasa, Improves Blogging Tools." Blogger did revise its application yesterday, but where is that mentioned in the article?

    Dear michael: you suck. Sinc me.

  36. Re:this is nothing. I want to see more by xutopia · · Score: 1

    how wrong you are. :) I've been using Google now for a while and I love it! :) The only thing I dislike about it compared to Hotmail is that I don't get email notifications. I think this is a big plus for Microsoft and it is the only thing that I find missing from the otherwise superior webmail.

  37. It has a point... by MosesJones · · Score: 1

    But not the companies that are suggested here. What Google could look to do is aim at the "traditional" companies that are currently under-valued to provide it with a solid non-search engine base.

    Basically what AOL did when they merged with TimeWarner... who got the best in that deal ?

    Hell, buy Ford and turn them round as a hobby.

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  38. The difference is by kmmatthews · · Score: 1

    that google is not a convicted monopolist.

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  39. Re:Nice Editorial Work, Michael.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The link to the Picasa software is right there on www.google.com. Open your eyes and read instead of resorting to flames. You just look like an ignorant moron.

  40. Features? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The website doesn't tell you much, or have any screenshots or a tour etc.

    For those missing a Linux version, PhotoMesa is a nice image browser, though while it doesn't have the meta-data stuff Picasa likely does, it is a very nice way of browsing images. And coming from one of the best HCI labs around, it's pretty useful..

    http://www.cs.umd.edu/hcil/photomesa/

  41. Nice Rant, NOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    the link to google.com shows that the newly integrated service is posted on the front page. Unkike yahoo or slashdot placing an item on the google front page is a 'big deal', they rarely add anything to it. Granted it's a common link, but 'links are our friends'.

  42. Web APIs by manmanic · · Score: 5, Informative

    Google's usefulness is also being expanded by third party developers using their APIs to develop kitschy hits such as Google Fight and Googlism. But there are useful apps too... A recent release is Copyscape which uses Google to find people who have plagiarized your web content. It's from the same guys as Google Alert and works like magic. I reckon it won't be long (after the IPO?) before Google expand their APIs a lot further, to make image, news and group searching available to third party apps. Then things will get really interesting.

    1. Re:Web APIs by Derek+Mason · · Score: 1

      I can't see Google expanding their APIs at all. They've languished without improvement in over 2 years since their release, while Google has added a million and one other features to their site. My guess is that the APIs are not seen as a strategic asset, but rather a bone thrown to keep the hackers happy and smiling. The last thing the IPO will do is change that...

    2. Re:Web APIs by saddino · · Score: 1

      I reckon it won't be long (after the IPO?) before Google expand their APIs a lot further, to make image, news and group searching available to third party apps. Then things will get really interesting.

      One problem with the Google APIs is that the licensing agreement is awfully restrictive: its fine for clever hacks, but not esepcially conducive to thrid-party commercial development.

      Of course, it's always possible to communicate with Google via HTTP. For example, my company's image searching desktop app for Mac OS X, Beholder queries Google, AltaVista, Ditto, etc. by implementing its own web browser. So, things can actually get "really interesting" today.

    3. Re:Web APIs by manmanic · · Score: 2, Interesting
      It's true that Google's API Terms are restrictive:
      "The Google Web APIs service is made available to you for your personal, non-commercial use only"
      But it looks like they're open to successful applications being commercialized. For example, according to their FAQs and this article, Google Alert have been granted permission to sell a service based on the APIs:
      "Google has agreed to our release of premium paid Google Alert services."
      So it looks like Google were just waiting for someone to come along with a commercially viable application - see also these two interviews for more background. I've been following this story for a while...
  43. Nice troll by kmmatthews · · Score: 1

    That was a cleverly crafted anti-GPL troll.

    Clever, yes. Still a troll, though.

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    1. Re:Nice troll by omar.sahal · · Score: 1

      That was a cleverly crafted anti-GPL troll. No it wasnt! Another slashdot story about blinkx had a comment from an other user about blinix (an other grate comercial free software product) and how he had pop ups adds when using firefox 9.2 using the mod adblock. Under these considerations my questions were well founded.

  44. My Google Picasa review by Sunspire · · Score: 4, Informative

    I just tried it and couldn't find any spyware or ads. I ran AdAware and Spybot after installing and they didn't have any complaints. Didn't find any references to Picasa being spyware on Google Groups either.

    Overall I like it. It's very similar to Adobe Album, except the interface is more minimalistic and cleaner. Compared to Album 2.0 Picasa is a real speed daemon on my older Athlon 800Mhz, 512MB RAM, machine. Album chugs in both the thumbnail view and viewing a single picture full-screen is atrociously slow, easily the slowest image viewing program I've seen in years. I mean you can see the damn thing loading the pictures progressively as if it was downloading the pictures. Adobe should buy the ACDSee viewing engine or something. Picasa is pretty slow at importing stuff but after that it's real speedy.

    One thing I like is that you don't have to use the import feature in Picasa as you do in Adobe Album. You simply mark folders to be watched for changes and the program figures out new additions for itself. Album never does this for me, I have to manually run import every damn time I've imported new images with Photoshop or some other application.

    What I don't really like is that Picasa uses your real folders on your HD for categorizing images, and it likes to place picasa.ini files all over the place. It's ok, but the Album way of attaching metadata, very rapidly attaching labels, and allowing a picture to be in multiple categories is in my opinion superior as you can perform very neat queries on the data. On the other hand, most users probably never use either categorizing feature and just dump everything in one place. Heck, I do too, I have about 6GB of uncategorized pictures at the moment and I'm not about to sort them anytime soon. In that sort of usage Picasa is probably better since the thumbnail view is much more responsive.

    It's got some newbie friendly features like mailing (and automatically resizing the pictures to some predetermined max resolution, no more 10MB attachments from Mom) pictures that my parents might use. Unlike Adobe Album Picasa works perfectly with Mozilla Mail or Thunderbird. For some reason the slideshow feature looks like total ass. I'm guessing the interface is done in some fixed resolution and it's scaling it up (poorly) to my 1600x1200 resolution.

    Overall I like it. The download is small and it doesn't try to hijack your system in any way. Unlike other software it didn't even want to associate itself with every picture extension known to man.

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    1. Re:My Google Picasa review by pixel.jonah · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A few things:

      * Picasa's speed is amazing! The core guys are really into inner loop optimization - how few cycles can you do a divide in?

      * The fact that Picasa treats each directory of images as an album is actually quite nice - you can find your pictures outside of Picasa if you need to.

      * You can create new virtual albums and move images to them - this leaves the pics in their original directories though.

      * There is a high-res slideshow mode - go into Options > Slideshow and check "Do full-resolution slideshow" if your videocard has enough 2D performance, it's WAY better.

    2. Re:My Google Picasa review by Sunspire · · Score: 1

      There is a high-res slideshow mode - go into Options > Slideshow and check "Do full-resolution slideshow" if your videocard has enough 2D performance, it's WAY better.

      This improves the images being shown (the default fast but ugly mode is a poor choice in my opinion), but the Picasa slideshow and timeline interface itself looks horrible in my case. It looks exactly like someone took a 320x480 image and did a bilinear resampling on it to whatever you actual resolution happens to be. Well the software is still young, it's likely to improve.

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    3. Re:My Google Picasa review by pixel.jonah · · Score: 1

      the "normal" slideshow - the low res one (800x600 I think) is good to have for slower hardware.

      The timeline OTOH only runs at 640x480 - and at first didn't work on some dual monitor configurations that well - but they seem to be de-emphasizing that mode at this point.

      1.x has been out for quite some time now - I can only imagine that the Picasa folks were activly working on the next rev.. It'll be interesting to see what their purchase by Google will do to their release schedule...

  45. Privacy on the net by Animaether · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you consider that picture to be private, then what are you doing sharing it with others ?

    Especially on the internet.

    Not to mention through a third party product that doesn't come with some reasonable expectation of privacy such as e-mail (in which case you would still have to trust that the recipient doesn't forward the information to others).

    I think rather than getting 'scared' of Google, perhaps getting scared of your own actions would be the proper recourse. If you realize that you made some pretty stupid posts in the past, then in the future you may think twice before posting, and post anonymously if in doubt.

    In the end, that information is out there. Google is just making it easier to find.

  46. Re:Tour? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The website doesn't tell you much, or have any screenshots or a tour etc.

    If you'd clicked the support link, you'd find a link to the tour. (Requires flash)

  47. Re:Nice Editorial Work, Michael.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The link to the Picasa software is right there on www.google.com. Open your eyes and read instead of resorting to flames. You just look like an ignorant moron.

    Actually, it doesn't seem to be there everywhere. Google is actually load balanced, so it may depend on what server you're actually getting served from.

    So when someone says there's no link, it doesn't immediately qualify them as an 'ignorant moron' ... any moreso than someone who doesn't seem to comprehend that one of the most trafficed sites in the world is not served from a singular machine and may not always be the same for everyone. (Changes take time to propogate sometimes)

  48. The Yahooization of Google by Cavio · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does it concern anyone else that Google is going the way of Yahoo? Trying to become the end-all-be-all of web services seems a sure way to make all your offerings mediocre at best.

    Back in 1997, Yahoo was the cool kid on the block, and was both buying and building every feature under the sun. People lapped it up, and thought it was wonderful to have all their internet needs under one umbrella. Then, reality set it. Yahoo stopped enhancing and in some cases (Yahoo Groups) even maintaining the services. Quality has deteriorated, and the once proud Yahoo brand had withered and crumbled into what is now the K-Mart of the internet.

    I guess Google wants to be the Wal-Mart.

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    1. Re:The Yahooization of Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No.

      Theres a big diff.

      Check google's main page
      Check yahoo's main page

      On which page can you find what you are looking for the fastest?

    2. Re:The Yahooization of Google by jbarr · · Score: 1

      I personally have no problem with a company wanting to be the "end-all-be-all of the web" as long as they do it in a way that is efficient and useful to the end user. To me, Yahoo's problem is that they seem more concerned with pushing the latest and greatest flashy, irrelevent ads on me that I find the whole experience very annoying and unpleasant. Maybe it's a money-maker for them, but as an end user, I would gladly choose another comparable service if it wasn't so intrusive.

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  49. Picasa Schmicasa by N0decam · · Score: 4, Informative

    I tried Picasa out, and was underwhelmed by it's functionality.

    I wound up buying iMatch for categorizing/organizing my photos. It's an awesome tool. If you're a windows user on Slashdot, and want to organize your photos, it's probably the software for you.

    I literally tried dozens of programs over the span of a week or so, and found fault with each one - until I found iMatch. I was so impressed with it's abilities, I bought it less than a day into my 30 day trial.

    1. Re:Picasa Schmicasa by dyefade · · Score: 1

      I too wasn't over-impressed with Picasa (though it looks very pretty). I wondered if it would benefit my parents on their XP box (I use gThumb for myself), but it's not even as useful as the free catalogue program Kodak bundled with the camera.

    2. Re:Picasa Schmicasa by mbourgon · · Score: 1

      I use ThumbsPlus - very good at categorizing, and will integrate with (at least) SQL Server. (Yes, windows only, etc, etc...)

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    3. Re:Picasa Schmicasa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still use ACDSee v3.1 (which still had good, functional support for "descript.ion" files).

      "descript.ion" files are great because it makes it easy to add comments (or maintain already entered comments). Since it's a single file in the same folder as the images, you also don't have to worry about losing all of your comments should you move the folder to another location, or want to package the folder up and send it to someone else.

      Sure, adding comments to the files directly would be nice, but that doesn't always work.

      Any program that stores the meta data for images in a closed, proprietary, program-specific database is just evil (e.g. ACDSee v4 and v5). It's not available if you move to another machine, it magically vanishes if you forget and rename a file in Windows instead of using the program. (Even ThumbsPlus! is guilty of this.)

    4. Re:Picasa Schmicasa by Alaska+Jack · · Score: 1

      I have a question for you. I like to read slashdot, but I'm not a computer whiz, so I hope this isn't a stupid question.

      I work for a public institution. We have 100-200 photos we would like to publish to the web, so the other members of our institution can access them via a standard web browser. So far so good -- there are lots of programs that do this.

      But what we need is for our other members to be able to *search* for keywords (or choose them from a list) and have the resulting photos appear. I know a lot of stock photo agencies do this via big, expensive databases, but are there any simple, inexpensive applications that would let us do it?

      Maybe this would be a good "Ask Slashdot" question.

    5. Re:Picasa Schmicasa by pixel.jonah · · Score: 1

      Picasa wasn't designed for the Über hacker set. But what percentage of computer users have that mindset.

      Personally, yes I'd prefer a bit more power, but then again, you have to understand that it's still a 1.x release.

      I really like Picasa's simplicity and speed.

      I haven't seen the Kodak software, but the both Fuji FinePix and Canon software are pretty bad.

    6. Re:Picasa Schmicasa by dyefade · · Score: 2, Informative

      Gallery all the way! It's written in PHP, is a dream to install and use, you can have keywords, captions, descriptions, a user system, all within it. Also, it does resizing + image formatting on the fly. IMO, one of it's greatest assets, and the reason I use it on my site (check it out as a working demo if you like), is that it integrates perfectly with PHP-Nuke.

      As you may have guessed though, I'm PHP-loving, so this may or may not suit you!

    7. Re:Picasa Schmicasa by arafel · · Score: 1

      Each to their own, I guess. Having tried Picasa I like it a lot. Nice interface, good functionality - the only thing it's missing that I wanted is zoom.

      Regarding iMatch... 33MB download for an image manager? That seems excessively large. I was going to try it, but no thanks.

    8. Re:Picasa Schmicasa by AllNicksWereTaken · · Score: 0

      Are you an iMatch employee by any chance? You sound too happy about it. You seem suspicious.

    9. Re:Picasa Schmicasa by N0decam · · Score: 1

      As far as I know, it's a one man show. But to answer your question, no, I'm not an employee.

      It's just my favorite piece of shareware ever. 33 MB download? I didn't really notice, being on broadband has spoiled me I guess.

      Seriously though - after categorizing well over 2000 digital photos with my collection of 100+ categories, I can now pull up all pictures of my brother at a birthday party with a couple of clicks of my mouse - or pictures of trees in Alberta. Or dogs and cats playing together. Or card games played at family Christmas gatherings.

      If you want to organize your photos in a useful way, IMatch is unmatched by anything that's out there.

  50. Could be useful by Fryth · · Score: 1

    I do IT in an art gallery, so this could potentially be really cool. Useful to me would be the ability to store captions (dimensions, title, materials etc.) along with the artwork. I'll definitely be checking it out.

  51. Re:this is nothing. I want to see more by T-Keith · · Score: 0

    I agree. Trying to compete with Microsoft by making products that only run on Microsoft is not a good idea. By offering products compatible with most or all platforms means you can always come out on top, no matter which platform becomes the most popular. Tying your products to one company ties your success to that company.

  52. A change in the tone of the company? by KarmaOverDogma · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't know how much of a monopoly Google may become, but I worry about what will happen after the IPO.

    Remember Netscape? When that company started up, it's employees described it as a cool place to work, at the forefront of Browser development, fighting goliath (and winning). It didn't take long for it to become corporatized, lose it's luster, and get bought/sold out to AOL, where it became an aging, neglected, and evetually abandoned stepchild, with real development from Mozilla/Firefox/Thunderbird/Camino.

    Regardless of how useful Google becomes or remains in the future, with Google aquiring other companies and steaming towards an IPO, I wonder if it will lose the responsiveness, humor (www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html) and uniqueness (www.google.com/intl/xx-bork/) that typcally comes from a privately held controlled by a small number of individual entrepneurs or a family.

    In short, I think people feel a kind of affinity/warmth towards Google which may evaporate if it becomes too "corporate." Maybe this is inevitable, but hopefully not.

    .

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  53. Mac version by Pasc · · Score: 1

    Where is a version for OS X? Oh, wait... we already have iPhoto. Forget it.

  54. Just in case google.com gets slashdotted... by stienman · · Score: 5, Funny
    Just in case it gets slashdotted, here's the homepage:
    ---------------

    Google

    Web Images Groups News Froogle more &#187;

    Advanced Search
    Preferences
    Language Tools

    Have a digital camera? Try Google's Picasa software. Free Download.

    Advertising Programs - Business Solutions - About Google

    &#169;2004 Google - Searching 4,285,199,774 web pages


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    -Adam
  55. Instant Messanging via Hello by KaSkA101 · · Score: 1

    If anyone has looked at the program, you will see a component called hello. It is another part of the program that google now owns. One interesting thing about it is that there is instant messanging technology in it, so that you can send your pictures to other people. Is it only a little while till we have gim?

  56. So they started to put ads on the Frontpage... by Val314 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sign 1 of the comming apocalypse ;)

  57. Improved blogging tools? by scrm · · Score: 3, Informative

    Where is the improvement to Google's blogging tool? From what I can see (I haven't grabbed it yet) Picasa looks very similar to Apple's iPhoto or any other photo management software.

    If Picasa includes the ability to create online photo galleries, linked to a user's Blogger account so he can publish them on his blog, then it would be quite neat. Otherwise, I don't see what this announcement has to do with blogging tools.

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    1. Re:Improved blogging tools? by Jon_Aquino · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If Picasa includes the ability to create online photo galleries, linked to a user's Blogger account so he can publish them on his blog, then it would be quite neat. Not sure if you already know this, but the Picasa company has a tool called Hello that can be used to publish images to your Blogger blog -- not exactly gallery-functionality that you specifically want, but still pretty cool because they're hosting an unlimited number of images for you.

    2. Re:Improved blogging tools? by rakerman · · Score: 1

      When I logged into Blogger I discovered that "edit post" on my Mac in Firefox now has two tabs, one which shows more of a word-processing type interface, and one to work just with the HTML.

      I suspect that one of the attractions of Picasa for Google was their Hello site which provides photo hosting for Blogger. As more and more people move to photoblogging, this may have been an easy way for Google to provide more functionality.

    3. Re:Improved blogging tools? by ph43thon · · Score: 1

      My man, you do not know what has been going down. Check this out. You run Hello and inside Hello a thing called BloggerBot runs.. like it's one of your friends on the Internet. You set it up so that when you share a picture with bloggerbot, it is posted to your Blogspot Blog. Google hosts the pictures at blogger.com for free. This shit is serious, my man. Picasa just ads extra to the part where you organize your photos before sending them out.

      check me blog to see it in action.

  58. Reasons Why You Can't Forward Gmail by SeinJunkie · · Score: 2, Informative


    If you use Gmail, you'll see that every e-mail isn't shown as an e-mail, they're shown as conversations. So, if you're trying to click the checkbox next to a conversation then try to forward it, does that mean you want to forward the entire conversation, just the last sent e-mail, or one of the e-mails in between? It's ambiguous.

    It makes more sense to open a conversation displaying each e-mail separately, then allow you to forward individual e-mails.

    Maybe later, they will add functionality to not view your list as conversations and give checkbox forwardability. But, then again, maybe they'll just give us POP3 access.

    1. Re:Reasons Why You Can't Forward Gmail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "it's ambiguous"


      well, God forbid you actually spend 12 seconds figuring out what it does. For your information, it actually forwards just the message you choose "forward" on.

    2. Re:Reasons Why You Can't Forward Gmail by jbarr · · Score: 2, Informative
      If you use Gmail, you'll see that every e-mail isn't shown as an e-mail, they're shown as conversations. So, if you're trying to click the checkbox next to a conversation then try to forward it, does that mean you want to forward the entire conversation, just the last sent e-mail, or one of the e-mails in between? It's ambiguous.

      You can't forward or reply by clicking the checkbox--you must first view the message. If it's a message in a conversation, it, and every LATER message in the conversation will be forwarded. If you want to forward only that message, just click on the "More Options" links and clink on Forward.
      It makes more sense to open a conversation displaying each e-mail separately, then allow you to forward individual e-mails.

      That's how it functions currently.

      Maybe later, they will add functionality to not view your list as conversations and give checkbox forwardability.


      Maybe, but it would be a redundent function when you can just open the first message in the conversation to do the same thing. Doean't mean they can't or won't implement it...

      See GmailTips.com for more Gmail Tips
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    3. Re:Reasons Why You Can't Forward Gmail by SeinJunkie · · Score: 1
      That's how it functions currently.
      I'm aware of the ability to forward, which was the entire point of my post. The point that the grandparent was making isn't that the ability to forward isn't present, it's that forwarding is difficult to do in batches. That's why the checkbox-forwarding functionality isn't redundant. Right now, if for some reason you wanted to, it would take a lot of clicking to move your mail out to a different mailbox.
  59. Guess I'll wait by cheesekeeper · · Score: 1

    Windoze only, eh? I guess I'm going to have to wait and see what Spotlight does for my iPhoto library.

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  60. Re:this is nothing. I want to see more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gmail notifier extensions for Firefox: http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/doron/archives/0058 36.html

  61. Never, if it gets big enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Eventually Google will expand to the field of mind-to-computer linkage, and before you know it, we will all be living in world similar to Asimov's Gaia or the borg, where there is no consumerism and i/we/Google will be working for a common cause, to lead the humankind to rule the galaxy, assimilating other species if/when encountered.

  62. I think googles playing with everyone by hairykrishna · · Score: 0

    People seem to be worried that google's diversifying too much and may overstretch themselves (*cough* Yahoo). I, however, think they have a better plan. You see they're huge enough now that when they start to do something, even if they only do it in a small way, EVERYBODY (other 'net companies that is) jump on the bandwagon. Take the example of Gmail. It's still in beta- they haven't done a massive roll out and the cash invested (relativly speaking) is small. BUT because google _might_ be rolling out this crazy 1 gig email service every other free email provider and their uncle has to give out hundreds and hundreds of meg of free storage. So the net result is that google spends a tiny bit of money and everybody gets a shitload of email space more or less as a direct result. Plus everybody loves google even more 'cause now they've got all this shiny storage thanks to them. All the kudos, none of the cost. It's great- I can't wait to find out what google thinks we should all get next.

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  63. Re:Google is not free for the customers. by bludstone · · Score: 1

    Wait, you say, you use google all the time, and dont pay?

    Sure you do. But you arnt a customer. You are part of their product.

    Google's customers are the people who pay for the advertisements, NOT the people who use the service. The service is merely there to generate the audience that google then sells.

    YOU ARE PART OF GOOGLE'S PRODUCT.

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  64. Blogger and others blocked in South Korea. by RefriedBean · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    For the past month or so I haven't been able to access any of the blogs that I usually read, or even access/edit my own blog.

    At first I thought it's just a tiny routing problem that would solve itself, but after a few weeks of timeouts I asked my ISP.

    They responded saying that the Korean government has actually ordered all the ISPs to block most blogging sites like Blogger. Effectively making inaccessible (for South Korea anyway) tens of thousands of blogs.

    The reason is that the Ministry of Information and Communication has found that some blogs hosted (or contained links to) video clips of the Korean guy (Kim Sun-il) being executed in Iraq.

    They seem to be doing everything in their power to prevent the video from entering Korea. (but anyone deterimined enough to see it could still quite easily get it by Googling for Free Proxy,, or by tunneling through SSH to a friend outside the country.)

    A thread discussing the issue can be found here.

    This is seriously annoying to us foreigners living here, since many of us use American blogging sites such a blogger quite frequently.

    Regards
    RefriedBean

  65. Picasa's privacy policy by Nermal · · Score: 1

    One thing to note before rushing out to grab this thing: Picasa requires a mailing address and CC number to create an account (haven't looked into what the CC number is for, but I'm guessing the software is free but the service isn't). Since the address is no doubt meant to be a billing addr for the CC then you may not be able to just enter bogus values and according to their privacy policy they explicitly reserve the right to spam you (paper and electronic) and to sell your data to others. You can unsubscribe (link is in the priv policy) but it's strictly opt-out.

    I'm a little disapointed in this as, despite all the hoopla about gmail and such, Google is usually good about at least not spamming and/or sharing the data they collect.

    On that note, one more point: there've already been a couple of threads about Google/Gmail and the privacy armeggedon that some still seem to think they represent. I'd be interested in getting feedback on this piece that I wrote on the subject. Thanks.

  66. Forwarding? Click the "Forward" Link by snoochyboochy · · Score: 1

    Just checked, and yep, there's a "forward" link at the bottom of the message. Guess that arguement is shot...

  67. they won't be locking in by desiderius7 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Check their features status page for details on what they've been implementing since their initial release, and what they plan on implementing. It's very encouraging!

  68. Re:Super... more Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  69. Can you remember your ICQ # by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I never could remember that damn number. I used to use ICQ back in 1999 but I forgot the damn number.

    1. Re:Can you remember your ICQ # by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      198150 - its easy when you signup within the first few months...

  70. Image search by subzerorz · · Score: 1

    Cool. A better way to searching for Pictures.

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  71. A Face Search Engine Would Be Gold by Effugas · · Score: 1

    It'd actually be very, very cool to click on a face in your album and have all similar faces in your collection located. In fact, I'd wager it'd be a killer app, massively suited to Google.

    And it's not like this is unheard of technology, either. Face detection algorithms are extremely common.

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  72. Picasa is very serious! by vivarin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was one of the original developers of Picasa (search, web export and other features). I've got to say, the former Kai Krause developers who work there really know their pixels. Even in the 1.0 incarnation you'll see a lot of attention to subtle details of animation, alpha blending and UI that is usually missing from commercial apps. Every last coder there has written notrivial Mac and Linux software, so it's up to Google to pull the strategic trigger for those ports, if any.

    I'm pretty certain that those guys will be making iPhoto users jealous before long.

    1. Re:Picasa is very serious! by ctbarker32 · · Score: 1

      Very interesting tidbits. BTW, what the heck ever happened to Kai Krause? I followed his products and career pretty closely and was sad when Metacreations, etc all imploded and were scattered in the wind.

    2. Re:Picasa is very serious! by vivarin · · Score: 1

      As far as I know, Kai is doing interesting but secret stuff in a castle in Germany. (Nice work if you can get it).

  73. Keyboard shortcuts and other info here by NickFusion · · Score: 1

    A click on the support link will take you to a Picasa FAQ, and within, you will find a page that lists a large number of keyboard shortcuts.

    Enjoy, in moderation.

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  74. New Blogger Toolbar. by Patrick+Mannion · · Score: 1

    Well like the article title says, it's improve it's Blogging tools, but yet there is no mention of it. I acutally just noticed the update yesterday, becuase the old toolbar wasn't showing becuase I had way too many Windows open. Instead I refreshed and there was the new toolbar. It's pretty strange though that they've already accquired Picasa, when they just started offering the service on Blogger back in May, in a whole diffrent agreement, unless accquiring Picasa was part of it. Hmmm, maybe they might make a part of the Google Image search. Of course, for some reason, I can't access hello!, the Photo IM service that can be used to send photos to my blogs. Unless they're planning on rebranding it as Photoblogger.

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  75. Beholder - Is this OS X tool similar? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.mesadynamics.com/frame_beholder.htm

    Is this a similar type of thing for OS X. It's been out for a while, now.

    From their product description:

    Beholder(TM) allows you to quickly search for images on the web, whether you're using searching services such as Google(TM) or simply scanning web sites for images. Beholder also supports scanning of LOCAL IMAGE FOLDERS and iPhoto libraries. Thumbnails are displayed with link details and a zoomed preview courtesy of our patent pending Prism Zoom(TM) technology.

    Best of all, Beholder is extensible: search engines can be developed for other sites and additional engines can be downloaded from our Search Engine Library.

    Version 1.5 release notes can be viewed here.

  76. This is not new news by vivekg · · Score: 0

    As an active blogger.com user I noticed this almost 30-40 days back! Tool is cool for new bibs

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  77. IE 6 Required by theManInTheYellowHat · · Score: 1

    Althought this app is interesting I am wondering how long it will be before getting ported away from IE requiremnents. Although I don't know how you would search the computer for files from the sandbox.

    I am also wondering how long it will be before the tide changes and we see Mozilla and friends as the req browser?

  78. Slow motion pictures by broothal · · Score: 1

    Granted, I have a lot of pictures. Being a geek I've had a digital camera for the last 8 years, so it has to index a lot of pictures, but holy crap it's slow on my 2.4 ghz machine. And - I actually think my critisism is justified, because if this wasn't meant for people with many digital pictures, then who? If I only had a few pictures I wouldn't need an organizer tool.

    Sorry guys, but this product isn't worthy of the Google brand just yet.

    1. Re:Slow motion pictures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it took Apple 3 revisions to get iPhoto to be 'fast'. I wouldn't expect Google speed until then either. Rev1 "oh cool", Rev2 "Works with blogger and crap" Rev3 "Damn it's fast too"

  79. Picasa's Future? by General_Zipper · · Score: 1

    Picasa 2.0 was due out this summer. I wonder what will happen now? I use Picasa but am frustrated by some key features that were coming including archiving photos to CD/DVD.

    Also, they've eliminated Picasa's user forums.

    1. Re:Picasa's Future? by General_Zipper · · Score: 1

      Whoops - to fast on the draw. They've only eliminated the link to the forums. They're still available at this link.

  80. Improves blogging tools? by danmart · · Score: 1

    The article title says improves blogging tools. How? I missed it in the links.

    When I click on the link in my competitor's ads at the top of my free blog that says "remove this ad" (which used to go to upgrade to blogger pro), I get 404 file not found.

    It looks like I will be stuck advertising my competitors until/unless I shutdown my blog. Nice improvement.

    It is funny how so many people on here love google without any critical judgement. Why? Their searches are not very good anymore. I get mostly linkfarms and very stale 1-page edu test pages for most of my google top results. Teoma is still better.

    1. Re:Improves blogging tools? by ph43thon · · Score: 1

      check it.. since May, you can use Picasa's Hello to upload pictures to be hosted by blogger.com for free

      check me blog for it in action.
      I think this article is just crap, though.

  81. what a bunch of bitches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    google bought this and is making it available free. if you don't like it, don't use it. yes, i have iphoto as well but this is a great free app for windows users and unfortunately i have to use windows at work.

  82. I can forward.... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I can definatley forward from my gmail account, it's the link right next to reply?

    There is an "Archive" button, hopefully at some point they would let you access the "arcive" in bulk.

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  83. Alright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I understand what you were saying to pjt33 now. It originally sounded like you were confused even more and thought he was making errors.

    Heh.

    1. Re:Alright by suffe · · Score: 1

      All is well that ends well. Now all you have to do is get an account. ;)

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    2. Re:Alright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think I do have an account actually, but just never bother to log in.

    3. Re:Alright by suffe · · Score: 1

      So instead of bothering to do that you manualy keep track of your conversations here? Well, getting a bit off topic here. I'll save the recruitment campaign for some other time. =)

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  84. "gshots" etc. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    pure speculation - but i bet you within a few months the picassa software has an upload option to some google web page - "publish to gphotos" etc .

    msn has a photo site, but its limited by its terrible upload options (like all web based photo sites). having a client app would solve this.

    10gb of free google photos space would be nice! :D

  85. Picasa for p0rn by Sam3.14 · · Score: 1

    lol I just downloaded and ran Picasa on someone else's computer and found tons of p0rn. He is only 14 and I'm debating whether or not to tell his parents. I probably shouldn't.

  86. Rather difficult to use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Right of the bat it is pretty hard to use. The crippled interface does not let you enter the folders you want included. Instead, you have to do it the hard way: squint and click and wait forever navigating a tree. There are some things that a GUI does not do as well

  87. More than free by trainedCodeMonkey · · Score: 1

    Google is more than free. it saves countless time trying to find someting on yahoo or other search engines, like we did before google. thats money to me.

  88. Re:this is nothing. I want to see more by jbarr · · Score: 1
    "4. extend your Gmail offering to other people than the limited bunch currently seen"
    Maybe when they finally go public with it, but many people seem to be forgetting that it's currently in Beta. Although, I have to admit that I often forget, because it just works, and works so well!
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  89. Data checks in, but it never checks out? by Atario · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I started to get all excited about Adobe Album over the image-tagging and querying and stuff ("show me pictures with both me and my wife in the last month"), but then I realized there would be no way for me to get that information back out of the program again if I ever wanted to change to another picture manager -- it seems it's stuck in some proprietary internal DB. (Or am I wrong about that?) So I've held of, unsure about which way to go next.

    Now, I got all excited because Google is putting out their own picture manager -- great, the search gurus will get it right! But...you're saying there's no image tagging at all? Arg. I hope they add it sometime soon. (And maintain it in some plain text file.)

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    1. Re:Data checks in, but it never checks out? by N0decam · · Score: 1

      It's not free (as in beer, or as in speech) but IMatch rules, and you can output your catalog in xml if you want when you decide to move to a different piece of software. Storing it in a database while it's in use makes sense from a performance standpoint, so no plain text storage there, but extracting to plain text is possible.

      One of the best pieces of software out there, bar none. I bought it before a single day was up with my free trial, and haven't looked back. If Adobe Album got you excited with it's promise, make sure you have a spare pair of pants when you try out IMatch (Ok, that was crass and uncalled for.)

      Seriously though, I can't speak highly enough about it.

      I did try out about a dozen different photo cataloging programs (including picasa) before deciding on IMatch. None of the others were even close.

      I don't work for the guy who writes it or anything, I just love the software.

    2. Re:Data checks in, but it never checks out? by Atario · · Score: 1

      Hey thanks! Looks worth checking out...

      (Pun intended?)

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  90. I don't want to give away my CC number or email... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll use myshoots.com instead.

  91. Google-based thin client? by Snart+Barfunz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Would it be possible/desirable/sensible to make/sell a Linux based thin client that used Google services for data storage? Wonder if Google would ever offer a branded thin client?

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  92. Picasa forums. by inziga · · Score: 1

    http://forums.picasa.com/

  93. You're forgetting something... by AllNicksWereTaken · · Score: 0

    I don't know if you read it anywhere, but Google are only making 10% of the company public. There's still a nice big chunk of 90% of goodness, so I wouldn't worry so much. Besides, have you heard how much that 10% is worth? It's a fucking insane shitload of money. I can't imagine how much the other 90% is worth! It's crazy.

  94. directory by naiv · · Score: 1

    i would like to see more work on the google directory. make the directory open source, which would really help classifies thousands of sites and help people sift through the internet by category.

  95. Looks like iPhoto by mferrare · · Score: 1

    Am I right or am I right? Picasa looks like an iPhoto clone. Same look and feel pretty much. Not as pretty tho'

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  96. yeah, honestly by TheHonestTruth · · Score: 1
    I think Overated is a dick mod option. It literally is dinging someone because the moderator disagrees with another moderator. How is that fair? Yes, karma is dumb and completely pointless, but to say (and this is what negative moderation is) "I think your comment should not be viewed by others" reason: "Because I don't agree with someone that found it funny/insightful/etc" is just dumb. Especially considering in the part of the FAQ that deals with moderating it says "try not to use Overated and mod other comments up." So why have it??

    But you're right, I don't metamod overrated. I haven't metamodded in months so I wasn't even aware it didn't show up. ah well. This will only be the 4th time I've changed my sig in 2 days.

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  97. Re:this is nothing. I want to see more by Jon_Aquino · · Score: 1

    3. offer an IM ala Jabber that allows us to get email notification like MSN Messenger does.

    Picasa makes an IM called Hello. Unfortunately none of my friends use it, but Hello has one very useful feature: it lets you post images to your Blogger blog -- unlimited image hosting for your blog.

  98. Picasa usability not as good as Album by Jon_Aquino · · Score: 2, Informative

    Both are freeware (Picasa and Adobe Photoshop Album Starter Edition). But you can tell Adobe has spent a lot more time on usability testing. Picasa won't let me sort newest to oldest, just oldest to newest. Also I noticed a confirmation dialog in Picasa -- something you won't see in Adobe.

    I'm getting annoyed using Picasa -- I'm going to stick with Adobe until Google puts their usability gurus on the case.

    1. Re:Picasa usability not as good as Album by Jon_Aquino · · Score: 1

      To balance my criticism I want to add that an earlier post did mention a couple of advantages of Picasa over Adobe: speed (though I haven't noticed it on my 2.4GHz 256MB) and watching folders for new pictures (whereas Adobe requires you to explicitly run an import).

  99. More Picasa usability qualms by Jon_Aquino · · Score: 1
    • The scrollbar is not a normal scrollbar -- it's this pretty thing that unfortunately imposes a maximum scroll speed on you. So to get to the last picture, I can't just drag the thumb to the bottom; instead I have to pull this thingamajig to the bottom and wait as it nauseatingly scrolls through all my pictures.
    • I really wish I could sort newest pictures first! Or just some way so that I immediately see the newest pictures (Adobe Album does both -- presents you with the group of newest pictures, and also sorts pictures in descending order by date). The newest pictures are what I'm most interested in.
    • I hope that by the next release Picasa gets some usability improvements -- maybe with input from the usability gurus who worked on GMail!
    1. Re:More Picasa usability qualms by Jon_Aquino · · Score: 1

      Then again, I do love the 1-button "Enhance" feature (compare to Adobe's 4 buttons: AutoColor, AutoLevels, AutoContrast, Sharpen) (and I love how the enhancement "fades in"). And the preview of the next and previous pictures.

  100. Go to Google Watch Watcn please. by hkmwbz · · Score: 1
    Don't get me started...

    Check out Google Watch Watch before believing anything Google Watch has to say. GW was started because the owner of the site disagreed with his site's pagerank. His obscure page about Donald Rumsfeld got a low PR, and he made a big deal out of it. Obviously, since it didn't give him the #1 spot, it's Google which is at fault, right?

    Daniel Brandt (GW owner) has no credibility what so ever when it comes to Google. His site contanins several blatant lies about Google which I have pointed out in earlier Slashdot discussions. The purpose of the site is a personal vendetta against Google for not giving his useless and paranoid page a higher PR.

    Watching big and powerful companies is a good thing. Spreading lies about them because you disagree with them is pathetic at best.

    So no, I don't think Google Watch should be mentioned, as it is not a serious site. It is a pure joke, and the man who created it is a pathetic liar with a personal agenda.

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