Actually there are close to nill long-distance commercial maglev applications.
I remember reading that China looked likely to cancel the planned Shanghei to Beijing one which was to be constructed by german companies. I rememebr the costs per km running up to US$48M.
Room temperature super conductors would definately reduce the costs involved!
Unless ur an embedded applications developer/kernel hacker/lean and mean....u can live ur whole programming life in ignorant bliss behind the facade that is the class library.
>paradigm C C++ Perl Python Lisp >functional no no yes ? yes
I find ur whole discussion of languages suspect by the fact that u actually think Perl is a decent language? How do u define "decent"? I fail to see how u can define Perl is functional? am I missing something?
Also it is incorrect to catagorize C, C++, etc. as "paradigms", they are merely flawed implementations of a design methodolgy.
Yea well I submitted it as well, but u don't see me complaining.....I think in the blurb about rejected stories it says something about "complaints will fall on deaf ears so don't bother". Guess hemos just wanted all the glory.
No I don't think thats correct, even if it is "performance", i.e. whistling a tune walking down the street it is still covered under "fair use", as long as u are not benefiting from it commercially.
"What use is a CLR standard without an API standard? You can't exactly WORA! It's like coding in C to platform-specific APIs! Or restricting your code to only run on x86. "
True Microsoft have not released several core API's including ASP.NET, ADO and WinForm's. Though there are already several open source initiatives underway to provide replacements.
I've tried to use GTK# (licenced under LGPL) on Rotor and it works (at least it opens a window. GTK# is based on GTK+ and requires a little bit of work to make everything working. I followed the instructions at URL:
http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/downloads.ht ml And iconv.dll from:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?gro up _id=25167
This and many other topics are currently under discussion and will provide solutions to missing functionality that can be used on ALL ports of the CLR. Remember the CLR is ECMA standardized, as long as Microsoft continue to expound this there is not going to be incompatibilities between platform ports as some other posters seem to think. So this code should work fine on an official.NET release.
"Anyone who doesn't want to support the MS OS/Office monopolies should not be using.NET. Java is equally capable, and more mature, save for some minor language points which are being addressed in JDK 1.5."
Hmm this is incorrect. "Minor" language pt's, I would hardly call direct runtime support for value types, pointer types and unmanaged code execution "minor" pt's. Sure you could say you could compile C++ onto the JVM, but u would end up writing almost whole layer of emulation to emulate the features of C++ that are missing in the JVM, like pointer support. Also generic's are finally making their way into the JVM, what 10 years after it was released? Rotor already has support through the new Gyro 1.0 release that add's generics to Rotor. The official.NET will be getting this soon.
I'm not going to reply further because it is obvious that u have little or no experience with the CLR. Before dissing it try it out. As for success stories can u really compare a platform that has had around 5 stable major release builds (I'm not exactly sure on the number) from 1.0, the JVM from around 1993 to the CLR which was only recently standardized i.e. circa 2000? I'm sure given another 7 years you'll have a lot more "success" stories to add to your list.
Actually.NET is where I think Microsoft is going right for once. For the first time we have a truely open standard (ECMA standardized), well the CLR parts of it, which people can develop for. You won't find their Windowing code in their or ASP.NET but these are the area's that are going to generate revenue for MS. There are now ports for FreeBSD, MacOSX and the Mono guys are working a version for Linux. True platform cross compatibility, plus a typed runtime that was actually designed to provide support for somewhat seemless byte code compilation from multiple languages. Unlike the JVM which really was designed for Java only to run on different platforms.
I've been workin on.NET for a few yrs now, actually with the open source release Rotor designing a functional langauge and have found it rather a joy to use. Plus MS Research is now supporting quite a few research oriented open source initiatives that will hopefully provide rather novel enhancements in the coming years.
I'm from New Zealand and I found this very amusing, as for illegal activities didn't US forces find missle batteries sold by french companies? Am to lazy to do the appropriate google search.
France is irrelavent, just a matter of the time before the world recognizes it, yes flame me if u dare, I'm going home so:p
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Oh thats what happens at the end, I remember just wasting endless cycles trying to shag the cute pilot and mechanic.
Better yet,
No HASKELL or OCAML!!!
How are they going to attract brilliance if they don't allow you to use real languages.
Here (NZ) its called *twink* :)
dork
make some real contributions to science before ditching the work of others.
Oh no....shitty, subpar special effects !!!!
Oh no.... A DECENT PLOT and people who can ACT!
Mod this guy up!! haha
Actually there are close to nill long-distance commercial maglev applications.
I remember reading that China looked likely to cancel the planned Shanghei to Beijing one which was to be constructed by german companies. I rememebr the costs per km running up to US$48M.
Room temperature super conductors would definately reduce the costs involved!
"There are people trying to get a buggy CD signed by Microsoft using social engineering techniques," added Jaromil.
Okay, who did they get to sleep with Bill?
Does the system also cover peripherals or other components, such as printers, PDAs and word processors?
Anyone else curious how their going to recycle ur copy of OpenOffice?
Thanks, I feel a lot better now.
Anybody got a translation that's in English?
Why is she learning C now?
Unless ur an embedded applications developer/kernel hacker/lean and mean
"f proper establish language like C , C++ , Perl, etc and other must be modern experimental choice like Python , Java , etc"
I assume including "Java" as an "experimental" language was a typo?
ARHAHHAHAHAHA
The bloodninja was the best....HARRRRR!
Anyone know how someone could go about that easily?
C# does have generics now, so the one area C++ did have a slight advantage over C# in is now gone.
Check out the gyro release at MS Research for a copy of the new C# compiler.
>paradigm C C++ Perl Python Lisp
>functional no no yes ? yes
I find ur whole discussion of languages suspect by the fact that u actually think Perl is a decent language? How do u define "decent"? I fail to see how u can define Perl is functional? am I missing something?
Also it is incorrect to catagorize C, C++, etc. as "paradigms", they are merely flawed implementations of a design methodolgy.
Yea well I submitted it as well, but u don't see me complaining.....I think in the blurb about rejected stories it says something about "complaints will fall on deaf ears so don't bother". Guess hemos just wanted all the glory.
No I don't think thats correct, even if it is "performance", i.e. whistling a tune walking down the street it is still covered under "fair use", as long as u are not benefiting from it commercially.
This is defined as being a "fair use" of the material, as long as u are not benefiting commerically from singing it.
"What use is a CLR standard without an API standard? You can't exactly WORA! It's like coding in C to platform-specific APIs! Or restricting your code to only run on x86. "
h p/ InstallingBeginnersGuideForWindows
t ml
o up _id=25167
.NET release.
.NET. Java is equally capable, and more mature, save for some minor language points which are being addressed in JDK 1.5."
.NET will be getting this soon.
True Microsoft have not released several core API's including ASP.NET, ADO and WinForm's. Though there are already several open source initiatives underway to provide replacements.
I've tried to use GTK# (licenced under LGPL) on Rotor and it works (at least it opens a window. GTK# is based on GTK+ and requires a little bit of work to make everything working. I followed the instructions at URL:
http://www.nullenvoid.com/gtksharp/wiki/index.p
And I had to download libintl-1.dll from
http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/downloads.h
And iconv.dll from:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?gr
This and many other topics are currently under discussion and will provide solutions to missing functionality that can be used on ALL ports of the CLR. Remember the CLR is ECMA standardized, as long as Microsoft continue to expound this there is not going to be incompatibilities between platform ports as some other posters seem to think. So this code should work fine on an official
"Anyone who doesn't want to support the MS OS/Office monopolies should not be using
Hmm this is incorrect. "Minor" language pt's, I would hardly call direct runtime support for value types, pointer types and unmanaged code execution "minor" pt's. Sure you could say you could compile C++ onto the JVM, but u would end up writing almost whole layer of emulation to emulate the features of C++ that are missing in the JVM, like pointer support. Also generic's are finally making their way into the JVM, what 10 years after it was released? Rotor already has support through the new Gyro 1.0 release that add's generics to Rotor. The official
I'm not going to reply further because it is obvious that u have little or no experience with the CLR. Before dissing it try it out. As for success stories can u really compare a platform that has had around 5 stable major release builds (I'm not exactly sure on the number) from 1.0, the JVM from around 1993 to the CLR which was only recently standardized i.e. circa 2000? I'm sure given another 7 years you'll have a lot more "success" stories to add to your list.
Actually .NET is where I think Microsoft is going right for once. For the first time we have a truely open standard (ECMA standardized), well the CLR parts of it, which people can develop for. You won't find their Windowing code in their or ASP.NET but these are the area's that are going to generate revenue for MS. There are now ports for FreeBSD, MacOSX and the Mono guys are working a version for Linux. True platform cross compatibility, plus a typed runtime that was actually designed to provide support for somewhat seemless byte code compilation from multiple languages. Unlike the JVM which really was designed for Java only to run on different platforms.
.NET for a few yrs now, actually with the open source release Rotor designing a functional langauge and have found it rather a joy to use. Plus MS Research is now supporting quite a few research oriented open source initiatives that will hopefully provide rather novel enhancements in the coming years.
I've been workin on
I think maybe this takes the "just because I can", a little to far...
I'm from New Zealand and I found this very amusing, as for illegal activities didn't US forces find missle batteries sold by french companies? Am to lazy to do the appropriate google search.
France is irrelavent, just a matter of the time before the world recognizes it, yes flame me if u dare, I'm going home so
Oh thats what happens at the end, I remember just wasting endless cycles trying to shag the cute pilot and mechanic.