"...but what are we gonna' do for those whose real contribution to the net is content -- ideas, pictures, arguments -- rather than scrupulous code."
Hopefully, we will do what we're already doing in many places: let them use a markup generation tool; let them use templates; let them use a content-management system.
"[I]t is a *HUGE* PITA to get the same layout in MSIE for Windows as in Gecko, Opera and KHTML; you practically have to load a separate stylesheet for Win IE to get certain things done by its propertiary way."
Dean Edwards has created something called IE7, which was previously mentioned on Slashdot and goes a long way towards solving this problem.
It uses JavaScript IE "behaviors" to make IE5.0+ do a better job rendering CSS; it's sweet!
There's a big difference between converting a staticly-saved page to XHTML and patching up Slashcode to generate the same. The latter would have to be done to make Slashdot use XHTML, and it's a lot more work.
Still, CmdrTaco expressed interest in patches, if anyone would like to provide them.
"You should start out by sending anything for 'sales@domain.com' or 'postmaster@domain.com' straight to bit bucket hell. I get plenty at those addresses, usually of the sort trying to sell me things to improve the visibility of my web business (I have no web business)."
You (and the others who advocate this) should be aware that you are violating several RFCs by breaking postmaster. See, in particular, RFC2142:
...if a given service is offerred, then the associated mailbox name(es) must be supported...
I don't know; I've seen some parents whose invasion of their children's privacy goes so far as to be morally objectionable. Though I'm no philosopher, I'd suggest that there's a moral right of some kind, though its extent is definitely a matter for debate.
The law (in Japan or wherever) is a different matter, of course.
"When did that happen?, I used to live there and know about the assisted suicide and gay marriage, but I have never heard about LEGALIZED marijuana in Portland."
"The license is a little off-putting, at least if you want to use the OS at work..."
I should say so.
Section 1:
B. Subject to the terms and conditions contained herein, Xandros hereby grants to You a non-exclusive license to use the Software Product:
for your personal, non-commercial use;
and for internal business purposes only and only if You are a Developer; where a "Developer" means a person who uses the Software Product in connection with the development of a software application or component.
"This is a perfect example of why users rebel against passwords."
While the grandparent makes some good points, you do realize that he/she/it was parodying Fight Club, right? Right?? I mean, I got it and I haven't even seen the movie.;-)
Still, you do have to realize that the safeguards against which you rail -- the ones that you're saying make users lazy -- are put in place because users are lazy in the first place.
Please, please, please keep your religion out of our streets, office buildings, schools and government. These are common spaces which we'll have to share with you even if we don't share your religion.
This is way OT (go, go gadget karma!), but couldn't the same thing be said about politics, or any strongly-held belief?
Is it at all reasonable to expect that what people believe will not affect what they do in the public sphere?
As long as the license isn't something draconian and evil, I agree muchly. But if the license is something in practice unusable as open source, it might lure developers away from a real Free/OSS implementation.
That would be bad news. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.
But, if company X really wanted to get a patent for defensive reasons, then why not get the patent through a shell company whose sole purpose is to hold patents neutrally.
IANAL either.
A defensive patent is meant to defend you from other claims. Let's say I come to you and say, "You're violating my patent on screw placement in widgets; now I will sue you." If you have a defensive patent on -- say -- breathing air, you can turn around and countersue me for breathing, even though you wouldn't have normally done so.
It's not clear (to me, anyway) how this could work through a separate company or organization.
"No no no. You'd use Newtons, as kilo and grams aren't units of weight, but units of mass;..."
I always find the argument against the gram-weight thing a bit odd. Just because the gram isn't a unit of weight in SI doesn't mean it isn't one at all; it is in the older CGS.
I'm an American, but I'm pretty confident that Europeans don't mass themselves on balances.
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"Workers may still get overtime pay if they earn between $23,660 and $100,000 and work more than 40 hours per week." I don't want to hear any complaints if your making over 100k a year. If your making less thank 23,660 a year I'm confused too.
"According to new exemption tests, the employee isn't guaranteed overtime pay if primary duties involve office or non-manual work."
The people who have to make $100k are the people who aren't exempted.
Strictly speaking, ANSI C is C89, which permitted a lot of old K&Risms. (K&R was the name for the pre-ANSI version of C.) Functions didn't have to (couldn't) have their parameters specified in K&R, and if you didn't specify the return type either, it defaulted to int.
Now, this is unwise in modern code for a good number of reasons. For starters, a function is called differently when it's not prototyped -- though for variadic (variable argument) functions like printf, things work more or less the same as they used to. This was deprecated, IIRC, and it's probably gone in C99.
In other words, you shouldn't do it. If you do, a good ANSI compiler should scream bloody murder, but it should compile the code.
(This offtopic note brought to you by Grant's karma-to-burn fund.;-))
Why do I need to have something to hide in order to want privacy? Can't I simply desire to prevent others from gathering unnecessary information on me?
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"...but what are we gonna' do for those whose real contribution to the net is content -- ideas, pictures, arguments -- rather than scrupulous code."
Hopefully, we will do what we're already doing in many places: let them use a markup generation tool; let them use templates; let them use a content-management system.
"[I]t is a *HUGE* PITA to get the same layout in MSIE for Windows as in Gecko, Opera and KHTML; you practically have to load a separate stylesheet for Win IE to get certain things done by its propertiary way."
Dean Edwards has created something called IE7, which was previously mentioned on Slashdot and goes a long way towards solving this problem.
It uses JavaScript IE "behaviors" to make IE5.0+ do a better job rendering CSS; it's sweet!
"WTF? The work was already done for you!"
There's a big difference between converting a staticly-saved page to XHTML and patching up Slashcode to generate the same. The latter would have to be done to make Slashdot use XHTML, and it's a lot more work.
Still, CmdrTaco expressed interest in patches, if anyone would like to provide them.
"They want to make the level of abstraction of error messages to be higher?"
Now I'm too intimidated to RTFA. You mean someone wants to read, "Gnome encountered a problem and had to close?"
"You should start out by sending anything for 'sales@domain.com' or 'postmaster@domain.com' straight to bit bucket hell. I get plenty at those addresses, usually of the sort trying to sell me things to improve the visibility of my web business (I have no web business)."
You (and the others who advocate this) should be aware that you are violating several RFCs by breaking postmaster. See, in particular, RFC2142:
"Children don't have a 'right' to privacy."
I don't know; I've seen some parents whose invasion of their children's privacy goes so far as to be morally objectionable. Though I'm no philosopher, I'd suggest that there's a moral right of some kind, though its extent is definitely a matter for debate.
The law (in Japan or wherever) is a different matter, of course.
"9. The Search for Little Picard
"And the rule of thumb, even numbered trek films don't suck (as much)."
You left out Insurrection (at number 9). That makes Nemesis number 10, and Nemesis sucked muchly.
"...but you'll work 50+ hour days..."
Hopefully you won't have to work too many of those 50-hour days.
"When did that happen?, I used to live there and know about the assisted suicide and gay marriage, but I have never heard about LEGALIZED marijuana in Portland."
I think he/she/it is talking about the state medical marijuana law.
"Zpv Tmbtiepu hfflt offe up hp pvutjef npsf. :)"
"You Slashdot geeks need to go outside more."
True.
"The license is a little off-putting, at least if you want to use the OS at work..."
I should say so.
Section 1:
B. Subject to the terms and conditions contained herein, Xandros hereby grants to You a non-exclusive license to use the Software Product:
for your personal, non-commercial use;
and for internal business purposes only and only if You are a Developer; where a "Developer" means a person who uses the Software Product in connection with the development of a software application or component.
"The point is that college prepares you for the working world..."
I suspect that most of the folks who write curricula would disagree with you here.
"This is a perfect example of why users rebel against passwords."
;-)
While the grandparent makes some good points, you do realize that he/she/it was parodying Fight Club, right? Right?? I mean, I got it and I haven't even seen the movie.
Still, you do have to realize that the safeguards against which you rail -- the ones that you're saying make users lazy -- are put in place because users are lazy in the first place.
Please, please, please keep your religion out of our streets, office buildings, schools and government. These are common spaces which we'll have to share with you even if we don't share your religion.
This is way OT (go, go gadget karma!), but couldn't the same thing be said about politics, or any strongly-held belief?
Is it at all reasonable to expect that what people believe will not affect what they do in the public sphere?
"Sorry, links to Bugzilla from Slashdot are disabled."
And if you were using FireFox, it would have omitted the "referer", so there would have been no problem. <grin>
"i guess this is good news of the OS community :)"
As long as the license isn't something draconian and evil, I agree muchly. But if the license is something in practice unusable as open source, it might lure developers away from a real Free/OSS implementation.
That would be bad news. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.
"Eh, might someone wake me up when they actually reach space?"
It's kind of arbitrary. 100km or 60mi is the cut-off, so if they made it past that -- which they apparently did -- they "reached space."
But, if company X really wanted to get a patent for defensive reasons, then why not get the patent through a shell company whose sole purpose is to hold patents neutrally.
IANAL either.
A defensive patent is meant to defend you from other claims. Let's say I come to you and say, "You're violating my patent on screw placement in widgets; now I will sue you." If you have a defensive patent on -- say -- breathing air, you can turn around and countersue me for breathing, even though you wouldn't have normally done so.
It's not clear (to me, anyway) how this could work through a separate company or organization.
"No no no. You'd use Newtons, as kilo and grams aren't units of weight, but units of mass;..."
I always find the argument against the gram-weight thing a bit odd. Just because the gram isn't a unit of weight in SI doesn't mean it isn't one at all; it is in the older CGS.
I'm an American, but I'm pretty confident that Europeans don't mass themselves on balances.
(This off-topic comment brought to you by Grant Watson's total disregard for karma.)
"Workers may still get overtime pay if they earn between $23,660 and $100,000 and work more than 40 hours per week."
I don't want to hear any complaints if your making over 100k a year. If your making less thank 23,660 a year I'm confused too.
"According to new exemption tests, the employee isn't guaranteed overtime pay if primary duties involve office or non-manual work."
The people who have to make $100k are the people who aren't exempted.
Aparently your not talking about ANSI C?
;-))
Strictly speaking, ANSI C is C89, which permitted a lot of old K&Risms. (K&R was the name for the pre-ANSI version of C.) Functions didn't have to (couldn't) have their parameters specified in K&R, and if you didn't specify the return type either, it defaulted to int.
Now, this is unwise in modern code for a good number of reasons. For starters, a function is called differently when it's not prototyped -- though for variadic (variable argument) functions like printf, things work more or less the same as they used to. This was deprecated, IIRC, and it's probably gone in C99.
In other words, you shouldn't do it. If you do, a good ANSI compiler should scream bloody murder, but it should compile the code.
(This offtopic note brought to you by Grant's karma-to-burn fund.
If you've got nothing to hide...
Why do I need to have something to hide in order to want privacy? Can't I simply desire to prevent others from gathering unnecessary information on me?
It's the sad truth, but until some unbiassed reseach is done the record companies will keep spouting the same old dribble as gospel.
You think that would stop them?
From their models, they know how much they should have made if P2P wasn't around.
From their models, they think they know; that's a very tricky business.
I can't believe such a bigoted statement got modded as interesting.
Because clearly any statement comparing cultures which suggests that Western culture might be better in any way is clearly bigoted.