Are you sure you have "more say" and "more responsibility"?
Cause i dont see that. I dont think you have any say, although you do have the responsibility to pay for the guys that are going to be limiting your liberty to protect the "intelectual rights" of the corporation that created mickey mouse 70 years ago, but still demands their franchise be protected with YOUR money.
On the contrary: full rabid competition is what we aim for here. Fair prices for the consumer is what linux can achieve. Lowering barriers of entry to the software market and facilitation of technology use and aquisition is what linux does supperbly and FOSS excels at.
Commies jelous? They should be running like hell at the sight of the penguin.
In any case, the govermnet will use your taxes to cover the debt of people that will end up in jail anyhow, whilst nobody from any of the credit-selling houses will even loose their job.
Its incridebly stupid and very unfair.
Corporations and finance houses should be held liable for their idiocy.
This is, sadly, mostly true. However there arent only 15 good admins: we are a minority, but we arent that few.
Actually, the more entrenched one is with the FOSS comunity, the more contact one has had with experienced older bofhs and, as a general rule, the better admin one is.
Now.... the only other point Ill have to disagree in is your saying that sysadmining somehow requires no creativity or is not a valuable skill. Neither of those are true: its a challenging intelectual activity and a fun thing to be doing in any case.
Getting software systems to work together (properly) towards an end is good engineering. The best place where youll see that is in performance anlysis: most DBAs cant tell a bit from a byte and have no idea about how is data stored in a hardrive: they do performance-by-magazzione, in which they go ahead and purchase whatever oracle tells them to and call that "creative colaborative thinking".
A good sysadmin, on the other hand, should be able to tell you exactly where you need to put your buck to get an X performance increase: thats not easy at all, wildly it changes depending on the app and nobody even thinks about going ahead and doing it anymore (they go out and buy bigger iron and if THAT wont work, then they think they need a "better" DB, when the problem can perfectly be related to the ammount of memory, ammount of processor, poor use of this or that library...etc.
Hey... even librarians have fun.... if they are any good.
Youre telling me that the stock industry and the financial system does not need someone checking it for saneness?
So... no harm done on those subprimes, huh? Just a bunch of really nice guys making money through HARD work that actually benefit society one way or another, huh?
It can ALSO be as, say, Stephen Hawking describes: a chain reaction that turns the earth into Venus.
Then the life and adaptation argument cuts both ways: i dont think you and I will discuss this point: the human species is aggresive towards its environment and life arround this species tends to change and adapt to it.
This sometimes means species die, but it also sometimes means species become poisonous and aggressive towards us through evolution and the human species has been in the brink of extintion due to the adaptability OF NATURE (think superbugs, cockroaches, rats, ticks, lice... all vermin... forever since the beggining of this thing we call "society" and even before that: its a treat of life and nature, away from our control).
So i just want to establish: it CAN get ugly.
And then again, global danger is also a good reason to put aside petty differences and move towards a global civilization or, at the very fucking, least towards a globalized occidental civilization: one where occidental countries treat each other as natural partners instead of as either bussiness oportunities or risks.
I know, i know, this is a whole other topic, but its the one i wanted to open with my closing line up there: the problem itself is worth solving together.
I don't know if we will "adapt" or can "adapt" to whichever conditions come. I just would like the solution to go through the elimination of borders and the unification of occident under a single, democratic flag with no national or chauvinistic connotation save for the defense of occident and its values in front of China and whomever the fuck else threatens occidental values and freedoms.
First, "Mother Nature" did not "invent" oil or fossiles. Shit decomposes, goes under, big pressure turns it into oil after a (long) while.
Weve been taking it out and burning it and now we have heated this bubble a bit too much and yes, we will pay the consequences OF OUR ACTIONS. Furthermore, we will pay the consequences of OUR INACTION.
Stop throwing responsability away to god or mother nature: its been us all along, we fucked it up, we can fix it if we have enough balls for it.
Some say its impossible, we would need to delete borders first.
Pretty cool in winter, pretty hot in summer... just right on average.
Now, of course im just provoking and its a really funny comment (you should give me that). But on the other hand, ive always suspected that intellgience, like motherfuckedness or plain evil, is normally distributed amongst us all: most of us are average, some of us are really stupid, and some of them (not me, thats for sure), are really smart.
So yeah, i think that, relative to the really intelligent, most of humanity is plain stupid.
Why do you say this, zimbra works fine!
But not GPL3
I guess the zimbra folk sold to yahoo early: its a whole other bag of chips now.
MS is running for their money, and they aint gonna get.
This is one of the best posts i have ever seen.
Good point: mutt, for example, is still the fastest emailreader ive ever seen.
And yeah. Its much faster now than in 98.
Futhermore.... its actually the box vista was designed to run on.
Ah...
Are you sure you have "more say" and "more responsibility"?
Cause i dont see that. I dont think you have any say, although you do have the responsibility to pay for the guys that are going to be limiting your liberty to protect the "intelectual rights" of the corporation that created mickey mouse 70 years ago, but still demands their franchise be protected with YOUR money.
No no, you have it all wrong.
What you see here, is the RIIA passing the COST of prosecuting YOU from THEIR wallet, to YOUR (the .gov) wallet.
No, my friend, this is nothing to celebrate. This is yet another slap in the face of democracy.
...It is refreshing to find out that US senate is just as clueless and sold-out to .corp as any other.
Define "negligible" and prove that the guy saying he bought one is alone.
He isnt. I bought a couple of them, im writing from a similar but-from-hp, linux preinstaled laptop.
There is a market for this things.
Yeah...
But Whos on first.
I see what you did there. Very clever. How is that working out for you?
Now, go get fucked for a pack of cheese.
Linux is no commie OS! How DARE you?
On the contrary: full rabid competition is what we aim for here. Fair prices for the consumer is what linux can achieve. Lowering barriers of entry to the software market and facilitation of technology use and aquisition is what linux does supperbly and FOSS excels at.
Commies jelous? They should be running like hell at the sight of the penguin.
In any case, the govermnet will use your taxes to cover the debt of people that will end up in jail anyhow, whilst nobody from any of the credit-selling houses will even loose their job.
Its incridebly stupid and very unfair.
Corporations and finance houses should be held liable for their idiocy.
And im willing to bet that they only do that for their american store, but still sell you preinstalled linux if buying in asia.
So up theirs. As Ive always said: if it doesnt run linux, it doesnt exist.
I get your point. But come on... if the box says Vista Ready and the OEM "runs better with vista", it better well damn be true.
This is, sadly, mostly true. However there arent only 15 good admins: we are a minority, but we arent that few.
Actually, the more entrenched one is with the FOSS comunity, the more contact one has had with experienced older bofhs and, as a general rule, the better admin one is.
Now.... the only other point Ill have to disagree in is your saying that sysadmining somehow requires no creativity or is not a valuable skill. Neither of those are true: its a challenging intelectual activity and a fun thing to be doing in any case.
Getting software systems to work together (properly) towards an end is good engineering. The best place where youll see that is in performance anlysis: most DBAs cant tell a bit from a byte and have no idea about how is data stored in a hardrive: they do performance-by-magazzione, in which they go ahead and purchase whatever oracle tells them to and call that "creative colaborative thinking".
A good sysadmin, on the other hand, should be able to tell you exactly where you need to put your buck to get an X performance increase: thats not easy at all, wildly it changes depending on the app and nobody even thinks about going ahead and doing it anymore (they go out and buy bigger iron and if THAT wont work, then they think they need a "better" DB, when the problem can perfectly be related to the ammount of memory, ammount of processor, poor use of this or that library...etc.
Hey... even librarians have fun.... if they are any good.
The guy costed the city one million?
How much does it cost for San Fran to have an incredibly stupid IT manager that cannot keep his best talent on the job?
Fuck that: im with the rogue guy.
Oh man....
Youre telling me that the stock industry and the financial system does not need someone checking it for saneness?
So... no harm done on those subprimes, huh? Just a bunch of really nice guys making money through HARD work that actually benefit society one way or another, huh?
Okay. Whatever you say.
I shall "shut my fucking mouth" now.
... "INTENTIONAL" evil.
Well sure. It CAN be as you describe.
BUT
We have NO IDEA
It can ALSO be as, say, Stephen Hawking describes: a chain reaction that turns the earth into Venus.
Then the life and adaptation argument cuts both ways: i dont think you and I will discuss this point: the human species is aggresive towards its environment and life arround this species tends to change and adapt to it.
This sometimes means species die, but it also sometimes means species become poisonous and aggressive towards us through evolution and the human species has been in the brink of extintion due to the adaptability OF NATURE (think superbugs, cockroaches, rats, ticks, lice... all vermin... forever since the beggining of this thing we call "society" and even before that: its a treat of life and nature, away from our control).
So i just want to establish: it CAN get ugly.
And then again, global danger is also a good reason to put aside petty differences and move towards a global civilization or, at the very fucking, least towards a globalized occidental civilization: one where occidental countries treat each other as natural partners instead of as either bussiness oportunities or risks.
I know, i know, this is a whole other topic, but its the one i wanted to open with my closing line up there: the problem itself is worth solving together.
I don't know if we will "adapt" or can "adapt" to whichever conditions come. I just would like the solution to go through the elimination of borders and the unification of occident under a single, democratic flag with no national or chauvinistic connotation save for the defense of occident and its values in front of China and whomever the fuck else threatens occidental values and freedoms.
They very well could, though.
Ok stop.
First, "Mother Nature" did not "invent" oil or fossiles. Shit decomposes, goes under, big pressure turns it into oil after a (long) while.
Weve been taking it out and burning it and now we have heated this bubble a bit too much and yes, we will pay the consequences OF OUR ACTIONS. Furthermore, we will pay the consequences of OUR INACTION.
Stop throwing responsability away to god or mother nature: its been us all along, we fucked it up, we can fix it if we have enough balls for it.
Some say its impossible, we would need to delete borders first.
Well, lets start there, i say.
WTF!
I actually thought it would be fun to laugh about the whiners that want out (hint: quit coming here guys), but you only post three?
What a waste of time to waste my time in such an ineffective manner!
Pretty cool in winter, pretty hot in summer... just right on average.
Now, of course im just provoking and its a really funny comment (you should give me that). But on the other hand, ive always suspected that intellgience, like motherfuckedness or plain evil, is normally distributed amongst us all: most of us are average, some of us are really stupid, and some of them (not me, thats for sure), are really smart.
So yeah, i think that, relative to the really intelligent, most of humanity is plain stupid.
I too think its laughable that most of humanity is also stupid.