I think if you look at any CD you bought, you will notice that it indicates that it is a copyrighted work and cannot legally be distributed.
So really what you are asking for is that the person who is illegally distributing said music should voluntarily add a disclaimer that they are offering an illegal copy of this music?
So when you buy a stereo from the back of a big truck from a couple of shady looking characters in a back alley, they should come right out and say they ripped off Best Buy last night and are offering the hot stereos at a discount price because they are stolen?
there are already many digitized video solutions out there that enable this...might be part of a do it yourself solution but I would expect that the DIY'er would probably go to X10.com or somewhere like that and get the integrated camera and software solution in one place.
there is very little an iTunes user can do to prevent a hard drive crash from occurring
Haven't used a Mac in a long time...but I hear they have CDRW drives - assuming they can do the same thingy as other OS's and treat the CDRW as a big floppy (like DirectCD does on Windows), they could download the file directly to the CDRW, or perhaps download it to the drive, and then write it to the CDRW shortly thereafter...and then of course be careful with that CD. Backing it up within minutes of downloading doesn't really seem like a big deal.
I could get into an accident driving home from the record store with my new CD and have it destroyed...guess I better not buy any CDs (you know, come to think of it, I've been in more car and motorcycle crashes than I have had hard drives crash in the last 5 years...)
The article even specifically mentioned "companies who are selling clients". Can we wait until their is actual evidence before sending out the lynch mob? Perhaps the GAIM people will contact Microsoft and recieve a license as long as they don't charge for their client...
I IM on my TV all the time - not a particularly good one at that...27" Sanyo I got at Costco for about $220 4 years ago.
It runs at 640x480 from my ati all in wonder (I'm assuming the card does something to the signal - but windows is set to 640x480) and I just need to set my fonts relatively big. Wouldn't want to read an e-book, but short emails and typical (at least typical for me) IM messages are no problem.
How about the freedom to take the OS package it the way you think your potential users would like?
there would be a hell of a lot more reason to "switch" (or at least check out linux at all) if there was some easily demonstrable reason it was better than Windows/MacOS X/etc.
How about faster, more stable, more reliable, more secure, you can open all your old documents and of course, it looks just like you are used to.
Sounds like a pretty good argument to me.
Not that I'm against innovation - so go ahead innovate! Let the world know when you've got your distribution ready! I'll give it a try! And maybe I'll switch from Sun's or Redhat's or KDE's desktop if I like yours better!
Yes, but didn't SCO say SUN and HP are okay license wise? I'm pretty sure about the SUN part - HP was the other one, I think...but then SCO has been saying so much...yet so little.
Should microsoft be able to say "We are losing money operating our IM Servers so we are going to shut them down?"
That may be EXACTLY what is happening (I doubt it, and losing money on things like XBox doesn't seem to bother them) however we are talking about property. Their servers, their bandwdith. Can they dictate how those servers are to be accessed?
Could they choose to only allow IP addresses from within Micorosft to access them (thus turning it into a private coporate messenging system?)
Why should they HAVE to offer their resources to ANYONE? They are merely trying to be compensated for a service/hardware/software/bandwidth THEY provide. Third party clients allow access to 3.5 out of the four things above (1/2 the software as microsoft only wrote the server, not the client half).
This is NOT P2P...see that list of Buddies in your little messenger window? Where do you think the state of those things are located? Where do you think your logon info goes? Why do you think they have a server status page? http://messenger.msn.com/Status.aspx?product=wm
Let me provide an answer - to a server (or servers) provided by Microsoft. Who wrote the software to run that? Microsoft (or perhaps they bought it from someone else - or more likely bought that someone else).
A piece of software can not be compared to the massive infrastructure that the phone companies are regulated to share. You are talking about something that the average Slashdotter could whip up in an afternoon (perhaps a week including beta testing) vs the millions of dollars and man years of work required to lay copper/fibre across the entire country. Quite Relevant.
but there are instant messenger servers that you can run on your own hardware, using your own clients and own resources.
Why didn't your company use one of those?
Why not hire a programmer or two to integrate the messenger into exchange? It is easily customized with simple VBA.
Sounds like you are bitter because you think the free ride is over. It isn't - the language may leave it open to be over in the future...sounds like a good time to investigate alternatives - like hosting your own messenger service for company use.
I'm sure Microsoft will be more than happy to let Trillian continue to access their server (which they paid for, pay to maintain and supply bandwidth to) for a reasonable (well reasonable to them) fee.
If you and enough other people are willing to pay Trillian for the conevenience, then I'm sure you can continue benefitting (you are paying for Trillian pro, right?)
Now only if we can drum up enough support to put Real and QT out of business. >:-)
no - if only we can create a product good enough to force Real and QT to improve enough to force XVid and other open source alternatives to continue to better themselves and provide better products for us end-users....
I use divX in my PVR (showshifter). I'm not pirating anything. I use it as I use to use my VCR. I don't share the shows I record, I don't display them publicly - I record them when I'm not around, watch them when I am, and delete them when I'm done.
Perhaps it is not a professional commercial application, but it certainly is a valid (and legal AFAIK) use.
The adware supported version is the SAME quality as the pro version. The free version was not as good at encoding as the other pro payware or pro adware.
So these guys are allowed to develop Tornadoes that cause massive destruction to trailer parks everywhere, but you are not allowed to tell people about insecure e-mail?
The real cure it to get rid of insecure software like Microsoft makes. Companies that don't start moving toward secure platforms deserve to die.
And what secure operating system would you suggest? I seem to see a lot of security patches coming out for a bunch of operating systems. If people don't install them they won't help. Just like people not installing the MS Patch that was available for a LONG time before the worm hit.
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I think if you look at any CD you bought, you will notice that it indicates that it is a copyrighted work and cannot legally be distributed.
So really what you are asking for is that the person who is illegally distributing said music should voluntarily add a disclaimer that they are offering an illegal copy of this music?
So when you buy a stereo from the back of a big truck from a couple of shady looking characters in a back alley, they should come right out and say they ripped off Best Buy last night and are offering the hot stereos at a discount price because they are stolen?
Let's be at least a LITTLE reasonable here...
there are already many digitized video solutions out there that enable this...might be part of a do it yourself solution but I would expect that the DIY'er would probably go to X10.com or somewhere like that and get the integrated camera and software solution in one place.
This feature fits in with Japanese copyright rules.
I'm guessing it was put the feature in or don't sell it in Japan...
Close to 1500 for a suped up VCR. Ouch.
When VCRs first came out they cost close to $1000 (in today's dollars) and tapes were $10 each...
This isn't all that different...
there is very little an iTunes user can do to prevent a hard drive crash from occurring
Haven't used a Mac in a long time...but I hear they have CDRW drives - assuming they can do the same thingy as other OS's and treat the CDRW as a big floppy (like DirectCD does on Windows), they could download the file directly to the CDRW, or perhaps download it to the drive, and then write it to the CDRW shortly thereafter...and then of course be careful with that CD. Backing it up within minutes of downloading doesn't really seem like a big deal.
I could get into an accident driving home from the record store with my new CD and have it destroyed...guess I better not buy any CDs (you know, come to think of it, I've been in more car and motorcycle crashes than I have had hard drives crash in the last 5 years...)
Gaim/kopete wont be able to license ms messenger.
Says who?
Have they approached Microsoft and been refused?
The article even specifically mentioned "companies who are selling clients". Can we wait until their is actual evidence before sending out the lynch mob? Perhaps the GAIM people will contact Microsoft and recieve a license as long as they don't charge for their client...
I IM on my TV all the time - not a particularly good one at that...27" Sanyo I got at Costco for about $220 4 years ago.
It runs at 640x480 from my ati all in wonder (I'm assuming the card does something to the signal - but windows is set to 640x480) and I just need to set my fonts relatively big. Wouldn't want to read an e-book, but short emails and typical (at least typical for me) IM messages are no problem.
Expensive LCDs???? CrystalFontz LCD pricing
$3.29 in bulk...
What if you want to scroll through that menu while you are listening to a song (like to choose the next one....)
What does Linux have to offer?
How about the freedom to take the OS package it the way you think your potential users would like?
there would be a hell of a lot more reason to "switch" (or at least check out linux at all) if there was some easily demonstrable reason it was better than Windows/MacOS X/etc.
How about faster, more stable, more reliable, more secure, you can open all your old documents and of course, it looks just like you are used to.
Sounds like a pretty good argument to me.
Not that I'm against innovation - so go ahead innovate! Let the world know when you've got your distribution ready! I'll give it a try! And maybe I'll switch from Sun's or Redhat's or KDE's desktop if I like yours better!
Yes, but didn't SCO say SUN and HP are okay license wise? I'm pretty sure about the SUN part - HP was the other one, I think...but then SCO has been saying so much...yet so little.
Should microsoft be able to say "We are losing money operating our IM Servers so we are going to shut them down?"
That may be EXACTLY what is happening (I doubt it, and losing money on things like XBox doesn't seem to bother them) however we are talking about property. Their servers, their bandwdith. Can they dictate how those servers are to be accessed?
Could they choose to only allow IP addresses from within Micorosft to access them (thus turning it into a private coporate messenging system?)
Why should they HAVE to offer their resources to ANYONE? They are merely trying to be compensated for a service/hardware/software/bandwidth THEY provide. Third party clients allow access to 3.5 out of the four things above (1/2 the software as microsoft only wrote the server, not the client half).
Huh?
This is NOT P2P...see that list of Buddies in your little messenger window? Where do you think the state of those things are located? Where do you think your logon info goes? Why do you think they have a server status page? http://messenger.msn.com/Status.aspx?product=wm
Let me provide an answer - to a server (or servers) provided by Microsoft. Who wrote the software to run that? Microsoft (or perhaps they bought it from someone else - or more likely bought that someone else).
A piece of software can not be compared to the massive infrastructure that the phone companies are regulated to share. You are talking about something that the average Slashdotter could whip up in an afternoon (perhaps a week including beta testing) vs the millions of dollars and man years of work required to lay copper/fibre across the entire country. Quite Relevant.
but there are instant messenger servers that you can run on your own hardware, using your own clients and own resources.
Why didn't your company use one of those?
Why not hire a programmer or two to integrate the messenger into exchange? It is easily customized with simple VBA.
Sounds like you are bitter because you think the free ride is over. It isn't - the language may leave it open to be over in the future...sounds like a good time to investigate alternatives - like hosting your own messenger service for company use.
open != free, free != open
because of friends and family that are using it?
I'm sure Microsoft will be more than happy to let Trillian continue to access their server (which they paid for, pay to maintain and supply bandwidth to) for a reasonable (well reasonable to them) fee.
If you and enough other people are willing to pay Trillian for the conevenience, then I'm sure you can continue benefitting (you are paying for Trillian pro, right?)
right - because NOBODY here would use pirated software, or illegal MP3s or pirated divx encoded movies...
Now only if we can drum up enough support to put Real and QT out of business. >:-)
no - if only we can create a product good enough to force Real and QT to improve enough to force XVid and other open source alternatives to continue to better themselves and provide better products for us end-users....
or pay the lousy $19.95 and buy it?
I use divX in my PVR (showshifter). I'm not pirating anything. I use it as I use to use my VCR. I don't share the shows I record, I don't display them publicly - I record them when I'm not around, watch them when I am, and delete them when I'm done.
Perhaps it is not a professional commercial application, but it certainly is a valid (and legal AFAIK) use.
The adware supported version is the SAME quality as the pro version. The free version was not as good at encoding as the other pro payware or pro adware.
Is the 'adware' 'adware' or 'adware+spyware'?
So these guys are allowed to develop Tornadoes that cause massive destruction to trailer parks everywhere, but you are not allowed to tell people about insecure e-mail?
Someday, the computer will be as easy to use as a microwave
Yep - they are making microwaves harder to use everyday! Soon they will catch up to computers!
BR
The real cure it to get rid of insecure software like Microsoft makes. Companies that don't start moving toward secure platforms deserve to die.
And what secure operating system would you suggest? I seem to see a lot of security patches coming out for a bunch of operating systems. If people don't install them they won't help. Just like people not installing the MS Patch that was available for a LONG time before the worm hit.
it would likely have to be approved by the equivalent of the FDA in other countries as they are marketing it as a medical aid.