the RIAA specifically said this offer was not extended to anyone who had already been contacted, or presumably to anyone in the future once they were contacted by the RIAA lawyers.
I think the point the original poster was making is what is the big deal to Linksys about releasing the code, not what is the big deal to GPL-ians about them not releasing the code. Clear as mud?
ie the question was why WOULDN'T Linsys just realize the darn code as it has to run on their hardware (of course another response already indicated why they might not want to do so).
Although I do agree with your post, it just missed the point of the particular question.
part of the issue is that it MAY be as easy as recording yourself and throwing it out on the net - you don't need the radio anymore - I found a few good bands on mp3.com by going to the 'editors picks' (or picks of the week whatever they call it) never heard of them on the radio or any other sort of advertising.
If this site becomes moderately popular then they will be able to reach a larger population than a bunch of radio stations - one radio station reaches a few million people - a website reaches the entire internet using world.
don't underestimate the power of word of mouth as long as there is a method of starting it.
Comparing things to other existing things really maintains the status quo.
Why not compare instead to what a windowing system could (or should) be. Perhaps the reason Gnome and KDE (or whatever fancy system you want to use) are as slow as they are are because of X. Perhaps if with a newer window system that is more efficient you could have run linux+Window System with FVWM on a 4 MB 386/12 MHz machine faster than on the 386/25 with 8MB.
The New York Times has never explained WHY they require a registration for reading from the net the articles that are available on every newstand and every library in the country. They just demand it.
Did you ever ask?
From their site...
If you have further questions about registration or the site in general, contact Customer Service.
Right now they are absolutely on the side of the GPL. However they are not on that side because of some altruistic feelings - they are on that side because they are (and hope to in the future) making a boatload of money from it.
To say they are not on the GPL's side would be incorrect given the claims they just made.
For console video games, why in the hell would you translate the language?
For posting a reply, why in hell wouldn't you read the F*&^ing article?
The article talks about the EXACT reason they chose tranlsation vs emulation. They are translating to the Gameboy and in their words:
The CPUs are so close in performance that direct emulation can immediately be ruled out. The larger cartridge size means we can accommodate some code expansion caused by translation.
Previously in the article they mentioned: A translation of the target program into source code will be faster than an emulated version and more amenable to modification.
And sure enough the Gameboy and Genesis had different display resolutions that had to be accounted for.
Just wondering how you determine that you never lose legitimate messages? If there lost, how would you know?
I've learned a long time ago (at least a few weeks) to never say never, unless you are saying never in order to say never say never, in which case it's OK.
The crux of the matter is spam makes money. If it didn't people wouldn't do it, or wouldn't do it for long...so you are right, it lies in the community, but not necessarily through filtering, although that certainly helps, as someone can't buy from a spammer if the spam doesn't get to them, but as long as people do buy from spammers, spammers will spam.
In this case, part of the "job" is proving that the voting software doesn't have a back door that enables somebody to fix the vote. That's simply not possible unless disinterested third parties can examine the code.
besides the fact that someone who is disinterested wouldn't be interested in examining the code...ubiased third parties can and do examine closed source systems all the time. This isn't an option available only to open source, although open-source certainly makes it available to more people.
Anything anyone from a company says regarding a competing product/technology needs to be taken with a grain (or two) of salt.
Of COURSE this is a bad idea - because it means competition and potential loss of revenue for Intel.
Geez - what if the proprietary standard chip in China is better than Intel's prorietary standard chip in the US?? If you didn't have to worry about backwards compatiblity, and started with a clean slate could that be possible? That would REALLY suck for Intel - especially if all Oracle (and other software companies)had to do was recompile the existing source to run on the new chips (ok - porbably more than a simple recompile, but you get the idea)...
SCO is a business partner of Sun. Funny, they are a business partner of IBM too (you generally don't ahve contract disputes between people who haven't signed a contract with each other, and the act of signing a contract generally means you are a business partner...)
I thought the reason most motorcycles are listed somewhat smaller than the actual number is that the class regulations for racing generally say the 'limit' is the nearest 'hundred'.
For instance, my 600cc bike is 599. So it can race in the 600 class.
I always wondered what would happen if I insisted to my insurance company that my bike is NOT a 600, so I shoudn't pay the 600cc rate! I suspect I wouldn't have insurance...
and which filesystem would they quote and install?
All of them? NTFS, HPFS, FAT, FAT32, EXT1, EXT2, EXT3, ReiserFS, IFS... K I was going to go on, but I'm bored now... you can get a list form fdisk in linux with the T command (I think)...
That's the scary part - right now a good idea is to have a heterogeneous system - so for instance, if a Linux security hole is compromised taking all your linux boxen down, then the windows boxes will still be running...if a standard hole in every product is attacked then it could take down all boxes regardless:(
SCADA stands for Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition. It is possible (not desirable, but possible) to lose all your 'Supervisory' Control for extended periods of time and have everything keep running fine in the 'controllers' themselves.
As a side note, OPC is based upon DCOM, not DDE and most SCADA systems (that run on MS Platforms) are now (and have been for quite some time) certified on Windows 2000.
in '93 and '94 I was doing all my Uni papers on Linux - I think it was Slackware, on a 486 33 with 8 MB RAM - sweet machine!
I remember my 4th year project - a 4 MB paper on digital image processing for studying hydrogen bubble formation in the zinc electronwinning process, done in TeX (not LaTeX, just pure TeX). Floppy drive broke and I needed to get the postscript to the Uni network to print.
Had trouble transferring via xmodem or zmodem, so I used 'cat' on each end of the connection to transfer it. I couldn't believe it worked...but I got it there and printed out just in time.
It certainly wasn't a toy, and I was by no means a Comp Sci student...just someone who couldn't afford to buy software.
the RIAA specifically said this offer was not extended to anyone who had already been contacted, or presumably to anyone in the future once they were contacted by the RIAA lawyers.
That's why they didn't wait.
I think the point the original poster was making is what is the big deal to Linksys about releasing the code, not what is the big deal to GPL-ians about them not releasing the code. Clear as mud?
ie the question was why WOULDN'T Linsys just realize the darn code as it has to run on their hardware (of course another response already indicated why they might not want to do so).
Although I do agree with your post, it just missed the point of the particular question.
part of the issue is that it MAY be as easy as recording yourself and throwing it out on the net - you don't need the radio anymore - I found a few good bands on mp3.com by going to the 'editors picks' (or picks of the week whatever they call it) never heard of them on the radio or any other sort of advertising.
If this site becomes moderately popular then they will be able to reach a larger population than a bunch of radio stations - one radio station reaches a few million people - a website reaches the entire internet using world.
don't underestimate the power of word of mouth as long as there is a method of starting it.
Comparing things to other existing things really maintains the status quo.
Why not compare instead to what a windowing system could (or should) be. Perhaps the reason Gnome and KDE (or whatever fancy system you want to use) are as slow as they are are because of X. Perhaps if with a newer window system that is more efficient you could have run linux+Window System with FVWM on a 4 MB 386/12 MHz machine faster than on the 386/25 with 8MB.
The New York Times has never explained WHY they require a registration for reading from the net the articles that are available on every newstand and every library in the country. They just demand it.
Did you ever ask?
From their site...
If you have further questions about registration or the site in general, contact Customer Service.
NYT Customer Info (No Reg Required)
Right now they are absolutely on the side of the GPL. However they are not on that side because of some altruistic feelings - they are on that side because they are (and hope to in the future) making a boatload of money from it.
To say they are not on the GPL's side would be incorrect given the claims they just made.
IBM rock and SCO paper.
ummm - okay I just had a glass of wine...but doesn't paper BEAT rock?
For console video games, why in the hell would you translate the language?
For posting a reply, why in hell wouldn't you read the F*&^ing article?
The article talks about the EXACT reason they chose tranlsation vs emulation. They are translating to the Gameboy and in their words:
The CPUs are so close in performance that direct emulation can immediately be ruled out. The larger cartridge size means we can accommodate some code expansion caused by translation.
Previously in the article they mentioned:
A translation of the target program into source code will be faster than an emulated version and more amenable to modification.
And sure enough the Gameboy and Genesis had different display resolutions that had to be accounted for.
Why was the parent mod'd up???
and I never lose legitimate messages.
Just wondering how you determine that you never lose legitimate messages? If there lost, how would you know?
I've learned a long time ago (at least a few weeks) to never say never, unless you are saying never in order to say never say never, in which case it's OK.
The crux of the matter is spam makes money. If it didn't people wouldn't do it, or wouldn't do it for long...so you are right, it lies in the community, but not necessarily through filtering, although that certainly helps, as someone can't buy from a spammer if the spam doesn't get to them, but as long as people do buy from spammers, spammers will spam.
In this case, part of the "job" is proving that the voting software doesn't have a back door that enables somebody to fix the vote. That's simply not possible unless disinterested third parties can examine the code.
besides the fact that someone who is disinterested wouldn't be interested in examining the code...ubiased third parties can and do examine closed source systems all the time. This isn't an option available only to open source, although open-source certainly makes it available to more people.
Anything anyone from a company says regarding a competing product/technology needs to be taken with a grain (or two) of salt.
Of COURSE this is a bad idea - because it means competition and potential loss of revenue for Intel.
Geez - what if the proprietary standard chip in China is better than Intel's prorietary standard chip in the US?? If you didn't have to worry about backwards compatiblity, and started with a clean slate could that be possible? That would REALLY suck for Intel - especially if all Oracle (and other software companies)had to do was recompile the existing source to run on the new chips (ok - porbably more than a simple recompile, but you get the idea)...
Nope the math checks out...got my slide rule out and did some calculations...
50 billion * 100 = 5 trillion
5 trillion is DEFINITELY in excess of 1 trillion
So the statement is true.
SCO is a business partner of Sun. Funny, they are a business partner of IBM too (you generally don't ahve contract disputes between people who haven't signed a contract with each other, and the act of signing a contract generally means you are a business partner...)
I thought the reason most motorcycles are listed somewhat smaller than the actual number is that the class regulations for racing generally say the 'limit' is the nearest 'hundred'.
For instance, my 600cc bike is 599. So it can race in the 600 class.
I always wondered what would happen if I insisted to my insurance company that my bike is NOT a 600, so I shoudn't pay the 600cc rate! I suspect I wouldn't have insurance...
and which filesystem would they quote and install?
... you can get a list form fdisk in linux with the T command (I think)...
All of them? NTFS, HPFS, FAT, FAT32, EXT1, EXT2, EXT3, ReiserFS, IFS... K I was going to go on, but I'm bored now
You said:
All this with a computer that is old enough to drink
so I poured a beer into mine, and now it doesn't work...
FINAL Fantasy X-2????
"this is the most blatant case of fraudulent advertising since my suit against the film, The NeverEnding Story."
Lionel Hutz
Attorney
I Can't Believe It's a Law Firm
perhaps they are based in a different country where 'federal' laws are different?
Maybe I missed something, but I saw nothing about $100 per employee per year...it said $100 per employee.
and compiled apps are still what run web based apps!
why does this have to be a separate box? It sounds like this could be done in the network stack, at the same level as the BPF or somewhere like that.
Sounds a lot easier (and cheaper) to implement it in the OS rather than the hardware.
not some standard hole in every product.
:(
That's the scary part - right now a good idea is to have a heterogeneous system - so for instance, if a Linux security hole is compromised taking all your linux boxen down, then the windows boxes will still be running...if a standard hole in every product is attacked then it could take down all boxes regardless
SCADA stands for Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition. It is possible (not desirable, but possible) to lose all your 'Supervisory' Control for extended periods of time and have everything keep running fine in the 'controllers' themselves.
As a side note, OPC is based upon DCOM, not DDE and most SCADA systems (that run on MS Platforms) are now (and have been for quite some time) certified on Windows 2000.
or if you already ran 03-026 you get a whole new chance to break things with this one!
in '93 and '94 I was doing all my Uni papers on Linux - I think it was Slackware, on a 486 33 with 8 MB RAM - sweet machine!
I remember my 4th year project - a 4 MB paper on digital image processing for studying hydrogen bubble formation in the zinc electronwinning process, done in TeX (not LaTeX, just pure TeX). Floppy drive broke and I needed to get the postscript to the Uni network to print.
Had trouble transferring via xmodem or zmodem, so I used 'cat' on each end of the connection to transfer it. I couldn't believe it worked...but I got it there and printed out just in time.
It certainly wasn't a toy, and I was by no means a Comp Sci student...just someone who couldn't afford to buy software.