i agree that it would be nice if i could understand you without you having to explain yourself correctly, but it turns out that this is a very hard thing to do. your mistake sounds trivial only in the sense that, as long as you don't rise to a position of power, your lack of historical/political comprehension has no real impact on me.
so what youre saying is that since Jef let himself be interviewed in such a half assed manner that he couldn't truly explain himself, we should be nice?
It seems to me that not only are his ideas way too broad for this article, they are too broad in general. he seems to think that there is an average user and that just isn't so. i have friends that use computers for games and friends that use them to make music. some write programs, others design websites, and there are more that just use email and browse the web. that's just what they do for fun, there are even more distinctions between what users need to do to get their work done. if I design networking hardware do I really need to use a desktop metaphor all the time to be productive?
is there a perfect interface for doing all these things?
the other point i took issue with was the idea that using other peoples computers is such a common occurence that we would need a grand unified UI to make sure guest users don't get confused or suffer from lack of productivity. none of the companies i've worked for had employees using each other's computers for any extended amount of time. the network is the computer, or something like that. if I need to look at something someone else is working on, i'll get it of the network.
finally, if jef? jeff? geoff? (how non standard, i'm confused!) thinks that he can do it better, maybe he should put his perfect UI where his mouth is. then we could all use it and decide for ouselves... if this vaporware really was as good as it theoretically should be then we shouldn't want or need anything else.
wtf are you doing using my computer? do you use it often? then set up your own account with your own interface or store a profile on the intranet somewhere and use that!
the couple times I've been there everyone was very polite to me. i speak some french and I never heard anyone try to put me down thinking i wouldn't know. personally i loved montreal.
it's not that web developers like a certain browser, they were forced to follow the money. if they had any respect for standards then they at least degraded gracefully... i know we did this for netscape and i was personally always nagging production peeps to look at their work through mozilla on my linux machine.
this is just an example - all money is USD all figures are conservative but speculative.
my favorite dj/producer performs at clubs ranging in sizes between 1K - 5K. he seems to charge an average of 10K per set and seemingly performs at least 100 times a year. so the math comes to around 1 million dollars a year for touring.
he also produces records, which I buy for around 7 dollars apiece. though I am cluless about the economies of vinyl, I am positive heis making money off these pressings.
he currently has one mix cd available for purchase, and I own it. I could have downloaded it for free but the quality isn't as good. I have at least 15 mixes that I downloaded from the net of live performances at clubs, these were free, but the key point is that having them (even if they were high quality wouldn't keep me from going to hear him perform live because each performance is different.
so based on these numbers... even if you take away 70% for taxes and travel and business expenses, he should be getting at least 300K per year. not too shabby.
all of this was accomplished without selling to the majors and reputation was built on word of mouth or sound of music, no bullshit advertising.
sorry if I rambled and for the excessive use of "at least".
seems rather simple to me...
you could spend lots of money in order pass on your familial traits or you could help a child that really needs it. I don't think that there is anything fucking wrong with having you own children but I do think that if you choose to adopt for the right reasons that does make you extraordinary. supernatural even.
I've worked on sites that generates serious traffic and though the stats give IE a 95% share of unique users, that 5% is crucial when you consider the actual $$ they represent. If you lose that money because you just don't care, you're a sucker.
If you just plain don't care in general then you are simply guilty of carelessness... too bad.
as long as I preload mozilla when windows starts my browser window comes up as fast as IE's does. as far as page rendering goes mozilla seems to keep up there too. finally, what I really like is the option to block automatic popups and the tabbed interface, both of these are crucial to me now, and I hate going back to IE because it lacks these features.
thats just my opinion but i do suggest mozilla to windoze and mac users if they ask, and they seem to like it too.
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i agree that it would be nice if i could understand you without you having to explain yourself correctly, but it turns out that this is a very hard thing to do. your mistake sounds trivial only in the sense that, as long as you don't rise to a position of power, your lack of historical/political comprehension has no real impact on me.
maybe we could see a link to your post???
maybe because I use linux on my desktop and love it much more than XP and 2K, which I have also used.
to each their own!
yeah, sorry... the page i referenced gives a very good step by step though.
here's the key lines
cd garnome7.5/gnome/meta-gnome-desktop/
make install
that's more or less all there is to it
download and read INSTALL, README etc
this script downloads and installs it wherever you want. it takes a while though...
http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/garnome/
if you check in code that *you* can't compile that's a problem!
so have you, mensch
i figure if you troll you should at least troll well
>> 2) Rampant compile problems
i don't think you should be checking in code that doesn't compile...
can you count coward?
the only way i could change the larger parties would be give them as much money as M$ has, and the only way to get the kind of money M$ has is...
as corrupt as every other government. thats US!
so what youre saying is that since Jef let himself be interviewed in such a half assed manner that he couldn't truly explain himself, we should be nice?
It seems to me that not only are his ideas way too broad for this article, they are too broad in general. he seems to think that there is an average user and that just isn't so. i have friends that use computers for games and friends that use them to make music. some write programs, others design websites, and there are more that just use email and browse the web. that's just what they do for fun, there are even more distinctions between what users need to do to get their work done. if I design networking hardware do I really need to use a desktop metaphor all the time to be productive?
is there a perfect interface for doing all these things?
the other point i took issue with was the idea that using other peoples computers is such a common occurence that we would need a grand unified UI to make sure guest users don't get confused or suffer from lack of productivity.
none of the companies i've worked for had employees using each other's computers for any extended amount of time. the network is the computer, or something like that. if I need to look at something someone else is working on, i'll get it of the network.
finally, if jef? jeff? geoff? (how non standard, i'm confused!) thinks that he can do it better, maybe he should put his perfect UI where his mouth is. then we could all use it and decide for ouselves... if this vaporware really was as good as it theoretically should be then we shouldn't want or need anything else.
Bonan tagon.
But there's a reason that he's widely excepted as a master of Interfaces. He's studied them, and he's done it as a scientist.
perhaps you meant accepted, Freudian slip perhaps?
wtf are you doing using my computer? do you use it often? then set up your own account with your own interface or store a profile on the intranet somewhere and use that!
the couple times I've been there everyone was very polite to me. i speak some french and I never heard anyone try to put me down thinking i wouldn't know. personally i loved montreal.
try using galeon 1.1.3. it's not as fast as i'd like yet, but it has tabbed browsing, pop-up blocking and gesture navigation.
it's not that web developers like a certain browser, they were forced to follow the money. if they had any respect for standards then they at least degraded gracefully... i know we did this for netscape and i was personally always nagging production peeps to look at their work through mozilla on my linux machine.
your a moron... rtfa!
They are paying you to play with computers because you make them sh*tloads of money!
jeff mills, look here for more info. theres plenty more where that came from... hope you like techno! ;)
this is just an example - all money is USD all figures are conservative but speculative.
my favorite dj/producer performs at clubs ranging in sizes between 1K - 5K. he seems to charge an average of 10K per set and seemingly performs at least 100 times a year. so the math comes to around 1 million dollars a year for touring.
he also produces records, which I buy for around 7 dollars apiece. though I am cluless about the economies of vinyl, I am positive heis making money off these pressings.
he currently has one mix cd available for purchase, and I own it. I could have downloaded it for free but the quality isn't as good. I have at least 15 mixes that I downloaded from the net of live performances at clubs, these were free, but the key point is that having them (even if they were high quality wouldn't keep me from going to hear him perform live because each performance is different.
so based on these numbers... even if you take away 70% for taxes and travel and business expenses, he should be getting at least 300K per year. not too shabby.
all of this was accomplished without selling to the majors and reputation was built on word of mouth or sound of music, no bullshit advertising.
sorry if I rambled and for the excessive use of "at least".
ps. he plays the 909 like an instrument!
oh sexy
seems rather simple to me...
you could spend lots of money in order pass on your familial traits or you could help a child that really needs it. I don't think that there is anything fucking wrong with having you own children but I do think that if you choose to adopt for the right reasons that does make you extraordinary. supernatural even.
your site must not be that large.
I've worked on sites that generates serious traffic and though the stats give IE a 95% share of unique users, that 5% is crucial when you consider the actual $$ they represent. If you lose that money because you just don't care, you're a sucker.
If you just plain don't care in general then you are simply guilty of carelessness... too bad.
as long as I preload mozilla when windows starts my browser window comes up as fast as IE's does. as far as page rendering goes mozilla seems to keep up there too. finally, what I really like is the option to block automatic popups and the tabbed interface, both of these are crucial to me now, and I hate going back to IE because it lacks these features.
thats just my opinion but i do suggest mozilla to windoze and mac users if they ask, and they seem to like it too.
2cents
mozilla can do stop popping too!