That mirrors my experience, except mine was reliable. The speeds and latency were all over the place. I also tried the Citrix test, with roughly the same results. It works, but I wouldn't depend on it.
It really is going to depend on the type of service available to you. Sprint, Cingular and the other guys are all rolling out networks that will rival speeds of some DSL/Cable connections.
However, let's take Sprint for example. They offer CDMA 1xRTT service in just about their entire coverage area, which tops out at a theoretical maximum of 144 kbps. I've used this service. It works pretty well, at higher than dialup speeds, 80-100 kbps, but the latency continues to be just as bad, or worse than dialup, as well as inconsistent, which is a no go for the gaming. Sprint, Verizon, Alltel and probably the other CDMA carriers are rolling out CDMA EV-DO, which will offer between 600-800 kbps typical speeds. At that point, it is a good replacement for traditional access methods.
I can't speak for the GSM carriers, as I'm not as familiar with how their high speed networks are coming along.
Basically, it is probably better than what you have now, but for downloading, etc, I'd stick with the satellite connection until the next generation data networks are available in your area.
Its actually kind of amazing that it stayed up that long in the first place, when you think about it. Especially if the machine is doing anything at all.
But what gives them incentive now? AIM in itself gives them no incentive because they could leave and still use it for free.
No, it must be something else about AOL that keeps them there...I'll never understand it myself, but something must be magical about overpriced and watered down internet.
Why would it work with 1.8 gHz antennas? In the United States, CDMA, like all other cellular technologies at the moment, operate in the 1.9 gHz band, or the 800 mHz band. 2.4 gHz is the ISM band, which is the common WiFi band. The original poster said CDMA will not work, probably due to the fact that the base is constantly cycling the power up and down on all handsets actively(in a call) using it. About 60 times per second, if memory serves correctly.
The one thing that I agree with is the coaxial cable loss will be much higher per foot at the higher frequencies, which is why you use bigger coax, or very short runs, or preferably both.
Forget how many DVD's, MP3's and telephone calls you can transport...how many Libraries of Congress can it transport per minute/hour/day/week/month/year?
If someone has a problem with the way the advertising is done, then they shouldn't use it. It is not like Google is hiding all of this information from their users.
All of this complaining and bickering for a service that is not yet released...
Remember, be it good or bad, this is how Microsoft was started as well. MS-DOS comes from QDOS (The Quick and Dirty Operating System). This served as the foundation of Windows for years, and it grew from that. They're still having a great time trying to maintain at least a little bit of compatibility to with it.
Man, the one time I actually try and read the articles, one costs money and the other is a dead link from another Slashdot article!
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You probably are resolving name lookups, but I'll bet what you are seeing one of two things:
1. They set a wildcard in their DNS server, so every query returns the same IP address, probably of their authentication server.
or
2. They have an HTTP proxy server that intercepts everybody who is not authorized for access, and then the DNS could still function normally.
The problem with number two is then in theory, if DNS queries still work right, then SSH, POP3, IMAP, etc probably works fine, and that would defeat the purpose. One #1, they could even assign a dummy IP address that doesn't route or translate to give internet access.
Most software tunnel programs actually run on your Windows based PC, rather than on the Xbox. Many Xbox games have a LAN gaming feature that allows those on LAN's to play against each other. So, the Xbox actually communicates with your PC, which in turn tunnels the MAC layer traffic over the internet to other Xbox clients, fooling them into thinking they are all on one big (laggy) LAN.
In the case of mine, I simply put in my router to not allow the Xbox internet access at all. It doesn't need it. I don't use Live, there is no web browser. If I want to do something to it, I do it locally via FTP. Works like a charm.
Yes, I'll admit, I prefer the digital areas as well. I'm not as into the SMS or data, but just good voice. The problem with analog is, the digital phones do not come with very large batteries, so one or two phone calls will wipe out the battery on a phone that will last several hours in digital calls.
By and large however, most of the areas that I travel to have plenty of digital service. I have found only a few areas that are analog only, and they are pretty far off the beaten path.
He's no yank...he's being realistic. It is all about perspective. From the perspective of the United States, CDMA is superior. If you want to buy a cell phone that works outside of a metropolitan area, you better be getting a CDMA phone. GSM coverage in the United States exists, but good luck using it outside of major cities, interstates and highways. CDMA will most likely work, and yes, we do still have AMPS(analog), and that works too if all else fails.
Some would say that getting another IP address would be analogous to getting another phone line from the company, particularly if you have a computer for your kids, as many people I know buy a 2nd phone line for their children when they get to a certain age.
You do realize that your "802.xx" standards cover just a bit more than wireless communications, don't you? Take for example, wired ethernet at 802.2 and 802.3, Token Ring at 802.5 among a few others. Those were around long before the wireless standards emerged.
No, civil enineers design roads and dams, software engineers design the software, and yes, type with it. Under that definition, they are the same. Remember, software engineering is as much planning and design as it is actual coding.
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That mirrors my experience, except mine was reliable. The speeds and latency were all over the place. I also tried the Citrix test, with roughly the same results. It works, but I wouldn't depend on it.
It really is going to depend on the type of service available to you. Sprint, Cingular and the other guys are all rolling out networks that will rival speeds of some DSL/Cable connections.
However, let's take Sprint for example. They offer CDMA 1xRTT service in just about their entire coverage area, which tops out at a theoretical maximum of 144 kbps. I've used this service. It works pretty well, at higher than dialup speeds, 80-100 kbps, but the latency continues to be just as bad, or worse than dialup, as well as inconsistent, which is a no go for the gaming. Sprint, Verizon, Alltel and probably the other CDMA carriers are rolling out CDMA EV-DO, which will offer between 600-800 kbps typical speeds. At that point, it is a good replacement for traditional access methods.
I can't speak for the GSM carriers, as I'm not as familiar with how their high speed networks are coming along.
Basically, it is probably better than what you have now, but for downloading, etc, I'd stick with the satellite connection until the next generation data networks are available in your area.
Who's ready for a Mac Mini frontend?
Because ints are for pussies...didn't you get that memo?
Its actually kind of amazing that it stayed up that long in the first place, when you think about it. Especially if the machine is doing anything at all.
No, no, you've got it wrong...the real question is, how many LOC/s is it? (Libraries of Congress per second)
But what gives them incentive now? AIM in itself gives them no incentive because they could leave and still use it for free.
No, it must be something else about AOL that keeps them there...I'll never understand it myself, but something must be magical about overpriced and watered down internet.
Why would it work with 1.8 gHz antennas? In the United States, CDMA, like all other cellular technologies at the moment, operate in the 1.9 gHz band, or the 800 mHz band. 2.4 gHz is the ISM band, which is the common WiFi band. The original poster said CDMA will not work, probably due to the fact that the base is constantly cycling the power up and down on all handsets actively(in a call) using it. About 60 times per second, if memory serves correctly.
The one thing that I agree with is the coaxial cable loss will be much higher per foot at the higher frequencies, which is why you use bigger coax, or very short runs, or preferably both.
Forget how many DVD's, MP3's and telephone calls you can transport...how many Libraries of Congress can it transport per minute/hour/day/week/month/year?
If someone has a problem with the way the advertising is done, then they shouldn't use it. It is not like Google is hiding all of this information from their users.
All of this complaining and bickering for a service that is not yet released...
Remember, be it good or bad, this is how Microsoft was started as well. MS-DOS comes from QDOS (The Quick and Dirty Operating System). This served as the foundation of Windows for years, and it grew from that. They're still having a great time trying to maintain at least a little bit of compatibility to with it.
Man, the one time I actually try and read the articles, one costs money and the other is a dead link from another Slashdot article!
You probably are resolving name lookups, but I'll bet what you are seeing one of two things:
1. They set a wildcard in their DNS server, so every query returns the same IP address, probably of their authentication server.
or
2. They have an HTTP proxy server that intercepts everybody who is not authorized for access, and then the DNS could still function normally.
The problem with number two is then in theory, if DNS queries still work right, then SSH, POP3, IMAP, etc probably works fine, and that would defeat the purpose. One #1, they could even assign a dummy IP address that doesn't route or translate to give internet access.
Wow...some people get ALL the jokes
Most software tunnel programs actually run on your Windows based PC, rather than on the Xbox. Many Xbox games have a LAN gaming feature that allows those on LAN's to play against each other. So, the Xbox actually communicates with your PC, which in turn tunnels the MAC layer traffic over the internet to other Xbox clients, fooling them into thinking they are all on one big (laggy) LAN.
In the case of mine, I simply put in my router to not allow the Xbox internet access at all. It doesn't need it. I don't use Live, there is no web browser. If I want to do something to it, I do it locally via FTP. Works like a charm.
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Ok dude...align the rotary girder on the flux capacitor and then port my x86 assemby over to PPC while you're at it.
Karma's cheap anyway...
Yes, I'll admit, I prefer the digital areas as well. I'm not as into the SMS or data, but just good voice. The problem with analog is, the digital phones do not come with very large batteries, so one or two phone calls will wipe out the battery on a phone that will last several hours in digital calls.
By and large however, most of the areas that I travel to have plenty of digital service. I have found only a few areas that are analog only, and they are pretty far off the beaten path.
He's no yank...he's being realistic. It is all about perspective. From the perspective of the United States, CDMA is superior. If you want to buy a cell phone that works outside of a metropolitan area, you better be getting a CDMA phone. GSM coverage in the United States exists, but good luck using it outside of major cities, interstates and highways. CDMA will most likely work, and yes, we do still have AMPS(analog), and that works too if all else fails.
Yeah...you'd think they could at least have someone listen to the music and see for sure what it is..
Although, if I owned the rights to shitty music like that, I probably wouldn't want to run the risk of hearing it either.
Some would say that getting another IP address would be analogous to getting another phone line from the company, particularly if you have a computer for your kids, as many people I know buy a 2nd phone line for their children when they get to a certain age.
You do realize that your "802.xx" standards cover just a bit more than wireless communications, don't you? Take for example, wired ethernet at 802.2 and 802.3, Token Ring at 802.5 among a few others. Those were around long before the wireless standards emerged.
No, civil enineers design roads and dams, software engineers design the software, and yes, type with it. Under that definition, they are the same. Remember, software engineering is as much planning and design as it is actual coding.
PS2 as in Sony Playstation 2.
It looks like we've got a new slashdot category as well...I've never seen the red tower up there.
heh...looks like there's only one article in the whole thing...