Assumming Episode's IV-VI are not out on DVD yet, how is it possible to spend that kind of money? Are episode's I and II $100 a piece? What am I missing?
Okay, then, children of the modern age (where we live in a world so tied together with wires that Pangaea ain't goin' nowhere!), you tell me if this is a predicament or not.
In the 1980s, you could look up from your Commodore 64, hours after purchasing it, with a glossy feeling of empowerment, achieved by the pattern of notes spewing from the speaker grille in an endless loop. You were part of the movement to help machines sing! You were a programmer! The Atari 800 people had BASIC. They know what I'm talking about. And the TI-994A guys don't need to say a word, because the TI could say it for them!
The old machines don't compare to the desktops of today, or to the consoles of today. But, sadly, current versions of Windows have no immediately accessible programming languages. And what's a kid going to do with Visual Basic? Build a modal dialog? Forget coding for XBox. Requires registration in the XBox Developer Program. Otherwise, you gotta crack the sucker open. GameCube? GameBoy? Playstation 2? Coding Just Isn't Accessible
Yes, there are burgeoning free SDKs for many of these platforms. But they are obscure and most children have no means of actually deploying or executing the code on their own hardware! This is obvious to us all and likely doesn't seem such a big deal. But ask yourself what might have happened had you not had access to a programming language on an Atari 800 or a Commodore. You tell me if this is a predicament.
It turns out, most of the kids in my neighborhood are exposed to coding through the TI calculator. A handful of languages are available on the TI and its processor is interesting enough to evoke some curiousity. But this hasn't spread to its PDA big brothers, where young people could have more exposure to programming. And undoubtedly the utility of a language on the Palm, Pocket PC and others would be useful to many.
So what's the problem here? We have no shortage of new languages, but they become increasingly distanced from the populace. Are the companies behind these platforms weary of placing the power of a programming language in the hands of users? Is there not a demand any longer? It's got to be some kind of greed, power, money thing, right?
Perhaps this is just another reason to push Linux and BSD on consumer systems. Still, are scripting languages easily accessible to beginners on those systems? OSX has made several scripting languages available (including Ruby and Python), but most users are unaware of their presence.
I should mention that Windows is equipped with its own scripting host for developing in JScript and VBScript. But the use of the scripting host is (I believe) under-documented and limited for beginners. Try doing something useful in a script without using Server.CreateObject. Let's not let kids touch the COM objects, please! The Christmas List
I'm thinking a toy language for consoles and desktops alike could be monumental. I'm not saying it needs to be cross-platform. A language for GameCube that took advantage of platform-specific features could be more appealing to GameCube users than a language that used a reduced featureset, but could execute on a handheld. Really, we live in a world where both choices should be available.
As for essential features:
1. Transportable code.
On my TI-994A, I could make a little, animated Optimus Prime from pixels. Insert cassette. Record. Pass around to friends. Receive high fives from friends. Put on wraparound shades. Thank you, TI! Thank you, Optimus Prime!
A little language for the consoles could be wildly popular if combined with the good nature of sharing code. This could be done by trading memory cards, but would be more effective if code could be easily obtained and posted on the Web. Learning would accelerate and collaborative development could take place.
A suitable language should give coders access to I/O devices, to allow experimentation with network devices and the ability to enhance one
I have a Fujitsu MAN3367MP SCSI drive that I am actually worried about. Although it really hasn't shown any 'signs' of failing, there's always the possibility. Is there any assurance that just those models listed are affected by this failure? Is anyone else having any problems with their Fujitsu hard drives (other than the ones already known to have problems)?
I've actually had a harder time getting Java to work on it. I guess both Flash and Java were NOT suppose to work in the beta. Going to upgrade now and see:)
Yeah I guess those people being held in Guantanamo Bay and throughout the US without a trial or bail of any kind really isn't curtailing civil liberties.
Actually, in my opinion Opera is superior to Mozilla. That's why you would buy something, because it is better product. Just because Mozilla is open source does not mean it is the best. I, including many others, would be happy to pay Opera for their excellent product.
While recently attending the Spam Conference at MIT, John Draper refered to you as a 'hacker' followed by an immediate outburst by Eric Raymond . Raymond claimed you were not a hacker, and that calling you such was an insult to other hackers.
So my question is: Do you think you'll ever be able to lose the label 'criminal' and simply be called a hacker? Also, has being called a criminal by your peers affected you in any way?
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Assumming Episode's IV-VI are not out on DVD yet, how is it possible to spend that kind of money? Are episode's I and II $100 a piece? What am I missing?
He likes real-life examples, just not the useless ones. Like the example I just gave.
Wait, what am I talking about again?
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Okay, then, children of the modern age (where we live in a world so tied together with wires that Pangaea ain't goin' nowhere!), you tell me if this is a predicament or not.
In the 1980s, you could look up from your Commodore 64, hours after purchasing it, with a glossy feeling of empowerment, achieved by the pattern of notes spewing from the speaker grille in an endless loop. You were part of the movement to help machines sing! You were a programmer! The Atari 800 people had BASIC. They know what I'm talking about. And the TI-994A guys don't need to say a word, because the TI could say it for them!
The old machines don't compare to the desktops of today, or to the consoles of today. But, sadly, current versions of Windows have no immediately accessible programming languages. And what's a kid going to do with Visual Basic? Build a modal dialog? Forget coding for XBox. Requires registration in the XBox Developer Program. Otherwise, you gotta crack the sucker open. GameCube? GameBoy? Playstation 2?
Coding Just Isn't Accessible
Yes, there are burgeoning free SDKs for many of these platforms. But they are obscure and most children have no means of actually deploying or executing the code on their own hardware! This is obvious to us all and likely doesn't seem such a big deal. But ask yourself what might have happened had you not had access to a programming language on an Atari 800 or a Commodore. You tell me if this is a predicament.
It turns out, most of the kids in my neighborhood are exposed to coding through the TI calculator. A handful of languages are available on the TI and its processor is interesting enough to evoke some curiousity. But this hasn't spread to its PDA big brothers, where young people could have more exposure to programming. And undoubtedly the utility of a language on the Palm, Pocket PC and others would be useful to many.
So what's the problem here? We have no shortage of new languages, but they become increasingly distanced from the populace. Are the companies behind these platforms weary of placing the power of a programming language in the hands of users? Is there not a demand any longer? It's got to be some kind of greed, power, money thing, right?
Perhaps this is just another reason to push Linux and BSD on consumer systems. Still, are scripting languages easily accessible to beginners on those systems? OSX has made several scripting languages available (including Ruby and Python), but most users are unaware of their presence.
I should mention that Windows is equipped with its own scripting host for developing in JScript and VBScript. But the use of the scripting host is (I believe) under-documented and limited for beginners. Try doing something useful in a script without using Server.CreateObject. Let's not let kids touch the COM objects, please!
The Christmas List
I'm thinking a toy language for consoles and desktops alike could be monumental. I'm not saying it needs to be cross-platform. A language for GameCube that took advantage of platform-specific features could be more appealing to GameCube users than a language that used a reduced featureset, but could execute on a handheld. Really, we live in a world where both choices should be available.
As for essential features:
1. Transportable code.
On my TI-994A, I could make a little, animated Optimus Prime from pixels. Insert cassette. Record. Pass around to friends. Receive high fives from friends. Put on wraparound shades. Thank you, TI! Thank you, Optimus Prime!
A little language for the consoles could be wildly popular if combined with the good nature of sharing code. This could be done by trading memory cards, but would be more effective if code could be easily obtained and posted on the Web. Learning would accelerate and collaborative development could take place.
A suitable language should give coders access to I/O devices, to allow experimentation with network devices and the ability to enhance one
I have a Fujitsu MAN3367MP SCSI drive that I am actually worried about. Although it really hasn't shown any 'signs' of failing, there's always the possibility. Is there any assurance that just those models listed are affected by this failure? Is anyone else having any problems with their Fujitsu hard drives (other than the ones already known to have problems)?
Selling SCO's Unix code, of course!
I've actually had a harder time getting Java to work on it. I guess both Flash and Java were NOT suppose to work in the beta. Going to upgrade now and see:)
From the sound of your comment it seems as though you haven't even seen the movie. Until then, YOU need to shut the fuck up.
Yeah I guess those people being held in Guantanamo Bay and throughout the US without a trial or bail of any kind really isn't curtailing civil liberties.
Actually, in my opinion Opera is superior to Mozilla. That's why you would buy something, because it is better product. Just because Mozilla is open source does not mean it is the best. I, including many others, would be happy to pay Opera for their excellent product.
I don't think our government is going to be protecting us for long, since we are now terrorists.
While recently attending the Spam Conference at MIT, John Draper refered to you as a 'hacker' followed by an immediate outburst by Eric Raymond . Raymond claimed you were not a hacker, and that calling you such was an insult to other hackers. So my question is: Do you think you'll ever be able to lose the label 'criminal' and simply be called a hacker? Also, has being called a criminal by your peers affected you in any way?
Ah yes. Maybe we should give them a few more rights, that surely will stop it from happening again.
Right.
Very, VERY agreed.
I like hearing what the Filthy Critic has to say. Always gives me a good laugh and is usually right on the dot about movies;)