No, the HLT code as in the opcode issued by the OS in its idle loop. No way that can fry your mobo, it's just a machine code instruction. Every OS apart from Win9X uses it (ie. Win2000+, Linux etc).
Power dissipation under load is similar between AMD and Intel chips.Anandtech shows the idle temp of the athlons a little higher, and vice versa for the load temps. There's around a 10% difference using the same heatsink.
Why the assumption that most people don't use their cpus? Mine is at 100% a lot of the time either running tests for development work or gaming.
So you're happy to not only have adverts around your emails on the Hotmail web page and pasted at the end of every one of your emails, you are also *happy* to have adverts mixed in with your email? Man, marketing companies must dream about people like that.
That's a dual core processor, not dual processors. I think the AMD dual core CPUs will be drop in replacements for their single cores, so no special motherboard is needed. Gigabit networking is quite feasible in a few years time. Even windows could do gigabit with that much processing power available.
It's the same for reviews of most products. The reviewer has a deadline to meet, not much free time to spend playing around with the product and not necessarily the detailed knowledge required to make a judgment. The review of "latest gizmo 1.1" has to be out around the time of the release, or you get few readers. So you get no mention of any long-term issues: in the case of distros: reliability, security updates, any package database corruption problems.
The problem is, a lot of the things the reader wants to know require a lot of use to discover, weeks or months. The best place for that kind of information is user forums.
Come on, this is Slashdot. Run by OSDN and running news stories with a bias towards Open Source, Linux and other Unix-like OS's. You've got to expect a fair bit of hostility to MS users around here.
Security guards in my building (university engineering dept) do this - they test the doors of all the offices they walk past. If one is unlocked, they walk in and leave a note on the desk saying "I could have been a thief - keep your door locked when you're not in"
I'm not trolling, just trying to calm the flames of Gentoo zealotry. Many people seem to post about emerge as if it's some sort of magical system, I was merely pointing out that what it does is not all that different from many other distros. You get some additional control over your system, at the cost of a lot of compilation time.
I was replying to the parent's points. I imagine what he means by additional packages breaking upgrades is if, for example, you install foobar-1.5 from another source and a load of upgrade packages depend on the official foobar-1.4 package, the upgrade won't work without removing the foobar-1.5 package. I imagine this occurs occasionally with most packaging systems. As you say, it is pretty rare with emerge and apt.
Yes, you can just do emerges in the background - my computer spent many a night being left on emerging some new release. I just got fed up with waiting after a while. I brought up Redhat because the parent mentions it as a comparison.
They should add Bayesian filtering to the slashdot posting filter. Anything getting a high enough "annoying post" score gets modded down automatically.
Of course installing dodgy unofficial debs can break upgrade. Just uninstall the package, upgrade, then reinstall if you must. I'm sure installing something off breakmygentoo can prevent upgrades working. apt-get is far more reliable than portage in my experience. Not that I use Debian anymore.
The point is, there's no real concept of an "upgrade" in *many* distros these days, so it really isn't a major selling point for Gentoo. You just run the standard updater, and one day it fetches a load more packages than normal.
As I said, I used Gentoo for about 9 months or so, but now use Arch and find it much nicer. I never have to compile packages, I never have to worry about USE flags and it's just as fast.
Being better than RedHat doesn't necessarily make a good distro!
But that's the same as Debian, Arch, SuSE and many other distros. Why do Gentoo users always think that portage is the only automated updating tool? It doesn't do backwards dependency checking (if I remove this package, what other packages will I break?). I used to be a Gentoo user, but I just got fed up with the compiling after a while.
I agree 100% - Grafitti 2 is far worse than the original. I've seen ill-informed discussion on Palm forums claiming it's an improvement and more "up-to-date", whatever that means. But Grafitti 1 was so elegant: writing a k, for example was much easier.
There's still a fair bit of development going on. Plucker (offline web browser/ebook reader) is still pretty active. I'm releasing new versions of my project (SiEd, a palm text editor), and still getting plenty of users. There are loads of others - have a look at palmopensource.com, for example.
Getting PalmOS ROMS is pretty easy - it took me two days or so from filling in the developers form to getting my password for full access. You can always transfer the ROM off a Palm device if you can find one.
The Palm Docs are pretty good these days - the Companion and Reference are very thorough.
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No, the HLT code as in the opcode issued by the OS in its idle loop. No way that can fry your mobo, it's just a machine code instruction.
Every OS apart from Win9X uses it (ie. Win2000+, Linux etc).
Power dissipation under load is similar between AMD and Intel chips.Anandtech shows the idle temp of the athlons a little higher, and vice versa for the load temps. There's around a 10% difference using the same heatsink.
Why the assumption that most people don't use their cpus? Mine is at 100% a lot of the time either running tests for development work or gaming.
You must be really bad at building computers if you've had that happen to an AMD chip.
Let's see:
Intel Pentium-M 735 $294,21W
Comparable Athlon-XP (2600-3000?) $170, ~70W
Price difference = ~$120
Power difference=~50W
Electricity cost (UK prices, don't know any others)=$0.10/Kwh
Time to break even=~2.7 years
Which is about the lifetime of a processor, I guess. Of course, that's assuming you use both at 100% CPU constantly for three years.
Why bother locking your car then? I mean, an expert car thief will have the door open about as quickly anyway.
Well, here's one reason to use PNG:
[bdr@arthurdent Documents]$ ls -ltotal 172 -rw-rw-r-- 1 bdr bdr 97056 May 9 15:07 office_install1.gif
-rw-rw-r-- 1 bdr bdr 75041 May 9 15:07 office_install1.png
A 25% size decrease for the same quality is pretty good.
From the article:Right now, Ignalum Linux is being subjected to a last round of testing.
I'd say it failed the web server load test, for one.
I got an armada m300 recently too. I get around three hours battery life, runs Linux perfectly (including speedstep etc).
I would think they used cron for the patches - no need for any human intervention at all.
So you're happy to not only have adverts around your emails on the Hotmail web page and pasted at the end of every one of your emails, you are also *happy* to have adverts mixed in with your email? Man, marketing companies must dream about people like that.
That's a dual core processor, not dual processors. I think the AMD dual core CPUs will be drop in replacements for their single cores, so no special motherboard is needed.
Gigabit networking is quite feasible in a few years time. Even windows could do gigabit with that much processing power available.
In my department, it looks like even the Windows PC running the information display in the lobby is infected - it seems to be rebooting a fair bit!
It's the same for reviews of most products. The reviewer has a deadline to meet, not much free time to spend playing around with the product and not necessarily the detailed knowledge required to make a judgment. The review of "latest gizmo 1.1" has to be out around the time of the release, or you get few readers. So you get no mention of any long-term issues: in the case of distros: reliability, security updates, any package database corruption problems.
The problem is, a lot of the things the reader wants to know require a lot of use to discover, weeks or months. The best place for that kind of information is user forums.
It's one of the few clients that can correctly show my Courier IMAP Server's folder tree with all other folders *not* being children of INBOX
Any mail client will do this - just set your IMAP server folder or prefix in settings to "INBOX".
Come on, this is Slashdot. Run by OSDN and running news stories with a bias towards Open Source, Linux and other Unix-like OS's. You've got to expect a fair bit of hostility to MS users around here.
184 comments (excluding yours) says to me that quite a few people are interested in seeing this here.
Security guards in my building (university engineering dept) do this - they test the doors of all the offices they walk past. If one is unlocked, they walk in and leave a note on the desk saying "I could have been a thief - keep your door locked when you're not in"
I'm not trolling, just trying to calm the flames of Gentoo zealotry. Many people seem to post about emerge as if it's some sort of magical system, I was merely pointing out that what it does is not all that different from many other distros. You get some additional control over your system, at the cost of a lot of compilation time.
I was replying to the parent's points. I imagine what he means by additional packages breaking upgrades is if, for example, you install foobar-1.5 from another source and a load of upgrade packages depend on the official foobar-1.4 package, the upgrade won't work without removing the foobar-1.5 package. I imagine this occurs occasionally with most packaging systems. As you say, it is pretty rare with emerge and apt.
Yes, you can just do emerges in the background - my computer spent many a night being left on emerging some new release. I just got fed up with waiting after a while.
I brought up Redhat because the parent mentions it as a comparison.
They should add Bayesian filtering to the slashdot posting filter. Anything getting a high enough "annoying post" score gets modded down automatically.
Of course installing dodgy unofficial debs can break upgrade. Just uninstall the package, upgrade, then reinstall if you must. I'm sure installing something off breakmygentoo can prevent upgrades working. apt-get is far more reliable than portage in my experience. Not that I use Debian anymore.
The point is, there's no real concept of an "upgrade" in *many* distros these days, so it really isn't a major selling point for Gentoo. You just run the standard updater, and one day it fetches a load more packages than normal.
As I said, I used Gentoo for about 9 months or so, but now use Arch and find it much nicer. I never have to compile packages, I never have to worry about USE flags and it's just as fast.
Being better than RedHat doesn't necessarily make a good distro!
But that's the same as Debian, Arch, SuSE and many other distros. Why do Gentoo users always think that portage is the only automated updating tool?
It doesn't do backwards dependency checking (if I remove this package, what other packages will I break?).
I used to be a Gentoo user, but I just got fed up with the compiling after a while.
I agree 100% - Grafitti 2 is far worse than the original. I've seen ill-informed discussion on Palm forums claiming it's an improvement and more "up-to-date", whatever that means. But Grafitti 1 was so elegant: writing a k, for example was much easier.
There's still a fair bit of development going on. Plucker (offline web browser/ebook reader) is still pretty active. I'm releasing new versions of my project (SiEd, a palm text editor), and still getting plenty of users. There are loads of others - have a look at palmopensource.com, for example.
Getting PalmOS ROMS is pretty easy - it took me two days or so from filling in the developers form to getting my password for full access. You can always transfer the ROM off a Palm device if you can find one.
The Palm Docs are pretty good these days - the Companion and Reference are very thorough.
Personally, I try to use Vim whenever possible because if I spend 14 hours a day using a mouse for a GUI editor my right wrist aches really badly, whereas just using the keyboard for Vim has much less of an effect. Personally, I'll put up with a steep learning curve if it means I can still move my hands in a few years!