How about arresting potential rapists because the person is about to hit their sexual prime?
At the university I attended, one of the on-campus organizations wanted to raise awareness about date-rape. They wanted to promote the notion that a date rapist does not look like the stereotypical rapist (whatever one of those looks like). So, they posted lists of randomly chosen names of male students around campus under the heading of "potential rapists".
The posters were quickly withdrawn and a terse apology was issued after the complaints started pouring in.
it's only put into the community as long as that community is the GNU/GPL community.
Anyone is free to share that information. The GPL levels the playing field because a large multinational has the same rights and responsibilities that I do when dealing with GPL code.
why should only parts of the nations tax payers get back? At least here in sweden the companies pays as much taxes as everyone else. Then at least I think they have equalrights to whatthe goverment puts out.
To name but two examples, Microsoft and Cisco don't really pay much tax to the US government. Here is how they do it. I believe in the public domain. But I don't see m$ contributing anything to the public domain. I don't see the media cartels contributing to the public domain. I don't see big pharma contributing to the public domain. If anything, these large corporate interests are using the politicians they own to alter intellectual property laws to their own advantage. The threat to the ever-shrinking public domain is not the GPL.
I as private person should have the right to add my ideas to goverments developed software and possibly gain a good living from that, why should you then get my work for free?
I fail to see how releasing software under the GPL prevents you from adding/changing GPL code. In addition, there are no provisionsin the GPL preventing you from selling GPL code. You just have to make the source freely available. I fail to see how you are being oppressed.
There is nothing in the open source world that touches Visio, Adobe Premiere or Visual Studio.NET.
Visual Studio.NET?
LOL!
If I chose to work for a government agency I want to be allowed to use high quality professional software
I work for a large multinational corporation, and *I* want to be allowed to use high-quality professional software too. Unfortunately, the CIO has mandated that we must all standardize on m$ office and use lookOut as our email client. Outlook is the biggest piece of crap I have ever had the misfortune to use!
Like the title you are mistating the issue here. I think that there is a lot of consensus that code developed with public funds should be Free. But GPL does not mean free, it means heavily encumbered by a bushel-load of RMS's ideology
Bullshit!
The GPL allows anyone to make use of GPL code, with the restriction that they must share the results with the community. I would not consider that "heavily encumbered". I prefer that model, rather than put publicly funded work into the public domain where m$ could take without any benefit returned to the public at large.
since a programmer who reads GPL code is just as tainted as someone who disassembled proprietary code.
I would wager that CS undergrads who study at one of the universities which have taken part in m$' "shared source" initiative are far more contaminated than someone who has worked with GPL code.
I think it's important to note that most nations would not do a Mars trip because they were altruistic, but because they know it would be a mighty display of technological, and yes military power
IMHO, this is probably true of the race to put a human on the moon back in the 60's. It would be nice that when humanity leaves this planet, we leave our tribalism and petty nationalism behind.
Here is proof that raw, unrelenting, undiluted greed can cause people to do, not good exactly, but things with a net beneficial effect.
Help me out - I do not see anything beneficial here. I would agree that both ICANN and Verizon are poster children for greed, but I just don't see the positive or how the market has anything to do with this. IMHO, domain registry seems like a natural monopoly... How many roots can there be?
(BTW I know about the OpenNIC - nice theory but it isn't working out that great in practice.
And while I could write a four page explanation, I'm fairly certain it isn't necessary.
If you think that "WRONG" is a reasonable rebuttal to an argument, I can see why you might think so. However, I'm fairly certain that the "explanation" is necessary.
Oh, wait a minute now, what about that blanket statement earlier? Now we need "inter-personal skills?" Sounds like corporate-speak for "if we *like* you, you can have a job." I detect the words "team player" drifting about...
Lemme guess, - you are the rogue programmer who can do it all, and the other guys on the team are a bunch of slackers who just don't get it. Am I right?
I believe that the only moral response in such a case is to violate those laws. Screw the MPAA. Screw the RIAA. Screw Congress. It is time for freedom loving people to declare openly that they will not recognize copyrights held by the MPAA and RIAA.
Well, that is step one. Step two in a civil disobedience campaign would be to openly and publicly violate their copyright and fully accept the consequences of that act. You see, the point of civil disobedience is that you want to get arrested and charged under the unjust law, and you want to received the punishment mandated by that unjust law in the hopes of making the public at large aware of just how bad the law is.
Is there anything dsl/cable/whatever providers can do to protect their customers from this?
All the more reason to protect your network with a firewall, or run firewall code on all your PCs. If your firewall is configured so as to drop all connections that were not initiated by systems on the secure network, that would go a long way to protecting yourself.
Of course, I think everyone should be firewalled in the first place. That's my $.02 anyways.
Yet there are other commandments to further this one that say, "If you do THIS, you are to be put to death".
Could you provide us with an example or two to support this claim?
You are obviously either unlearned, or repeating things without thinking them through.
Ad homenim attacks will not invalidate the previous post or make your argument any stronger.
I think that the original poster had a valid point and you do not offer any real refutation. IIRC, the commandment says "Thou shalt not kill." Are there any footnotes or subsections to explain the situations where the commandment does not apply? I am no theologian, but I don't think that Christianity, Islam and Judaism support the notion of situational ethics.
There may be circumstances where killing another human being may be necessary, but that does not necessarily make it a morally correct act in and of itself.
Our legislative system is bogged down with bureaucracy and partisan game-playing. The only decisions that get made with any efficiency are those dealing with terrorists or legislators' pay raises. So although I find their goals nauseating, the senators' approach of going straight to the source and sidestepping the whole legislative tar pit is admirable and invigorating.
I wonder if this isn't a bad precedent. The members of the legislature are accountable to the electorate (in theory at least.) If the proposed regulation becomes a law, the voters can hold the senator from Disney accountable for his actions. Referring the matter to the FCC will no doubt be a faster means to the same end, but it is an end-run around the democratic process.
After all, how many people voted for any of the members of the FCC?
If anything, this move strikes me as rather anti-democratic. Certainly, bypassing the individuals who are publicly accountable from the process entirely would speed things up. I am sure that the lobbiests and appointees could get rules and regulations passed much faster. I am not sure that it would be to Joe Sixpack's advantage though...
However, I am sure that the MPAA and RIAA would find the results very satisfactory. Just think how much they could save if they did not have to buy politicians anymore!
I bought the book when I saw it a few months ago. It's great. Like everyone else has said, it is a book about cooking, not a recipe book. It's totally worth having in your library.
His show is great. It's funny and educational and that is a rare combination. The best episode I have seen to date is "Scrap-Iron Chef" in which he parodies Junkyard Wars (aka Scrap Heap Challenge) *and* Iron Chef. It was great. Alton and the other chef had to scrouge up stuff cooking materials from a junkyard to make dishes that best reflected the ingredient of the day. In true Iron Chef fashion, the panel raved about his food, complained about the scrap iron chef's food, and Alton (the challenger) lost...
I would have thought it reasonable obvious! Policing the content before they agree to sell it potentially gives WalMart an un-acceptable degree of control over what information is available, and how it is presented. Who elected WalMart to the position of official censor? What gives WalMart the right make those decisions?
What if the Waltons decide that they really don't like abortion, and pressure magazines to adjust their content accordingly. Would that be smart business sense? I suspect that if it were microsoft pressuring MSNBC to present the Beast in a more favourable light, the howls of outrage would be deafening.
Would you be okay with that, too? Or would you agree with me that there are some steps a business should not be willing to take?
Indeed. Perhaps we could get the former executives from Enron and Worldcom to provide some guidance on corporate ethics and responsibility?
Perhaps we should get our own house in order before we start lecturing the Chinese government? (For the record, I think that the Chinese government is totalitarian and corrupt. Remember the Cultural Revolution and Tiannemin Square)
Too many false alarms isn't necessarily a bad thing. In intrusion detection you'd rather take the false positives, than the alternative.
Spoken like someone who does not carry the IDS support pager at nights and on week-ends!
The problem with too many false IDS alarms is that the staff tend to treat it like the boy who cried wolf. After awhile, you disregard the pages or treat them with less consideration because the last n pages have all been false alarms.
I think that IDS is important, but if there are too many false IDS alerts, it becomes difficult to put up with. Because they are strictly reactive systems, it is improbable that there will ever be a perfect IDS that never raises false alarms, but clearly there is a lot of work to do. I am surprised that Snort did so poorly, since it really is a nice system, but it takes a long time to build up a good set of heuristics...
The rate of false fire alarms, and false burgular alarms is VERY high compared to the actual number of real emergencies.
That's right. And in my area, if the police department are called out to the same location for three false burglar alarms in one year, they will not respond to any subsequent alarms automatically. And the fire department charges a fine of $300.00 per incident if they receive more than three false fire alarm calls to the same location in one year. Why? Because, as you said, the number of false alarms is much higher than the number of actual emergencies. The false alarms cost time and money and if all the resources are busy dealing with false alarms, there is nobody left to help when a genuine emergency occurs.
Voting for the status quo is a wasted vote. Both only make government bigger, more intrusive, and cater to big business. Even the greens do that!
The Greens cater to big business? How on earth do you figure that? Please climb down from the soapbox and provide an example, if such an example exists.
If anything, the Green party has a reputation about being the antithesis of big business because they are not willing to sacrifice the planet for the sake of a few grubby dollars.
I fail to see how the Libertarian philosophy has any relevance in the global village we all live in today. Such provincialism is quaint, but rather out-of-step with the real world...
I can only imagine what Spielberg would have done to the series. Ep 3 is supposed to be the darkest of all of the episodes. I'm sorry, but Spielberg just doesn't do dark well enough.
Well, based on Ep.1 and 2, what reason do we have to believe that George has one good movie left in him. Of all the films so far, George was the least involved with The Empire Strikes Back. Dark? Absolutely. Quality? It was the best film of the series.
Now, how is the guy who wrote that drivel that passed as romantic dialogue between Amidala and Anakin in AOTC going to finish the story to the satisfaction of all? The only saving grace is that the ending of Episode 3 must seamlessly integrate with Episode 4 and beyond. We all know how it has to end, George just has to make it all fit.
And for the love of humanity, NO MORE GODDAM REVISIONS. What was achieved by making Greedo shoot first?
It seems to me that IBM is looking at Linux as an operating system that belongs on server grade hardware and beyond, not on desktops or laptops. There probably are not enough people using Linux on their laptops to justify the time spent supporting it.
They used to have Thinkpads that ran AIX. Some of the SysAdmins I know at IBM used to prefer them for on-site troubleshooting at the server farms since it was UNIX end-to-end (to the extent that AIX is UNIX anyways). But someone decided that it was not worth having the product line and they were scrapped.
Rather than a client side tool like SpamNet, I'd like to see something that sits along side mail servers.
Absolutely!
I think that we could dramatically reduce the amount of SPAM out there is we did the following:
All SMTP servers should do a reverse lookup on the IP address of any host that attempts to deliver mail to it, and require any host attempting to send mail to it to identify it's domain. If the domain the mail server provided does not match the domain the IP space is registered to, the mail server should refuse to accept the message and drop the connection.
Since most of the SPAM I receive comes from non-existant domains, I think that something like this could help.
wow, the guy that said that is the same guy that grew the thymus? I would think he would know that death is a condition, a state of being, not a disease.
Wouldn't it be more correct to define death as a state of non-being rather than a state of being?
The compass and protractor are as obsolete as the sextant. If a kid graduates from school and doesn't know how to work a PDA, he's going to quickly learn how to work a deep fryer.
Nice troll...
I suppose the PDA is only a requirement if you want to be a marketdriod. For the rest of us, thinking is going to be considered a valuable ability. Right now, a PDA is just an interesting toy, and many people somehow manage to exist and lead productive, organized lives without one.
For what it is worth, I am all for banning calculators from the classroom. Far better to be able to demonstrate the process by which the student arrived at an answer than to pull some magic number out of the air and expect full marks.
I just graduated from university a couple of years ago and calculation devices of any type were strictly forbidden in my math, statistics, and CS classes. Sometimes it was a pain, but then the answer was rarely expressed as an integer anyways...
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How about arresting potential rapists because the person is about to hit their sexual prime?
At the university I attended, one of the on-campus organizations wanted to raise awareness about date-rape. They wanted to promote the notion that a date rapist does not look like the stereotypical rapist (whatever one of those looks like). So, they posted lists of randomly chosen names of male students around campus under the heading of "potential rapists".
The posters were quickly withdrawn and a terse apology was issued after the complaints started pouring in.
it's only put into the community as long as that community is the GNU/GPL community.
Anyone is free to share that information. The GPL levels the playing field because a large multinational has the same rights and responsibilities that I do when dealing with GPL code.
why should only parts of the nations tax payers get back? At least here in sweden the companies pays as much taxes as everyone else. Then at least I think they have equalrights to whatthe goverment puts out.
To name but two examples, Microsoft and Cisco don't really pay much tax to the US government. Here is how they do it. I believe in the public domain. But I don't see m$ contributing anything to the public domain. I don't see the media cartels contributing to the public domain. I don't see big pharma contributing to the public domain. If anything, these large corporate interests are using the politicians they own to alter intellectual property laws to their own advantage. The threat to the ever-shrinking public domain is not the GPL.
I as private person should have the right to add my ideas to goverments developed software and possibly gain a good living from that, why should you then get my work for free?
I fail to see how releasing software under the GPL prevents you from adding/changing GPL code. In addition, there are no provisionsin the GPL preventing you from selling GPL code. You just have to make the source freely available. I fail to see how you are being oppressed.
There is nothing in the open source world that touches Visio, Adobe Premiere or Visual Studio .NET.
.NET?
Visual Studio
LOL!
If I chose to work for a government agency I want to be allowed to use high quality professional software
I work for a large multinational corporation, and *I* want to be allowed to use high-quality professional software too. Unfortunately, the CIO has mandated that we must all standardize on m$ office and use lookOut as our email client. Outlook is the biggest piece of crap I have ever had the misfortune to use!
Like the title you are mistating the issue here. I think that there is a lot of consensus that code developed with public funds should be Free. But GPL does not mean free, it means heavily encumbered by a bushel-load of RMS's ideology
Bullshit!
The GPL allows anyone to make use of GPL code, with the restriction that they must share the results with the community. I would not consider that "heavily encumbered". I prefer that model, rather than put publicly funded work into the public domain where m$ could take without any benefit returned to the public at large.
since a programmer who reads GPL code is just as tainted as someone who disassembled proprietary code.
I would wager that CS undergrads who study at one of the universities which have taken part in m$' "shared source" initiative are far more contaminated than someone who has worked with GPL code.
I think it's important to note that most nations would not do a Mars trip because they were altruistic, but because they know it would be a mighty display of technological, and yes military power
IMHO, this is probably true of the race to put a human on the moon back in the 60's. It would be nice that when humanity leaves this planet, we leave our tribalism and petty nationalism behind.
Here is proof that raw, unrelenting, undiluted greed can cause people to do, not good exactly, but things with a net beneficial effect.
Help me out - I do not see anything beneficial here. I would agree that both ICANN and Verizon are poster children for greed, but I just don't see the positive or how the market has anything to do with this. IMHO, domain registry seems like a natural monopoly... How many roots can there be?
(BTW I know about the OpenNIC - nice theory but it isn't working out that great in practice.
No other computer media has come close to the simplicity of the this toggle in the past 20 years.
/usr be mounted read only nowadays.
I realize that it is not a hardware solution, but you can mount filesystems read-only. Sun recommends that
And, if you really want to take your media with you wherever you go, you can always get a tower with hot-pluggable SCSI drives...
we own this country, it is ours, and all the benefits of ownership/citizenship should go to us citizens, and not foreigners.
When you use the term "we" and "us", are you referring to the indigenous people of North America?
Otherwise...
And while I could write a four page explanation, I'm fairly certain it isn't necessary.
If you think that "WRONG" is a reasonable rebuttal to an argument, I can see why you might think so. However, I'm fairly certain that the "explanation" is necessary.
Oh, wait a minute now, what about that blanket statement earlier? Now we need "inter-personal skills?" Sounds like corporate-speak for "if we *like* you, you can have a job." I detect the words "team player" drifting about...
Lemme guess, - you are the rogue programmer who can do it all, and the other guys on the team are a bunch of slackers who just don't get it. Am I right?
It's nice when my argument is made for me.
Ditto.
Sorry, but that would be nationalism, not racism.
It's a good thing that no atrocities or crimes against humanity have ever been committed in the name of nationalism!
I believe that the only moral response in such a case is to violate those laws. Screw the MPAA. Screw the RIAA. Screw Congress. It is time for freedom loving people to declare openly that they will not recognize copyrights held by the MPAA and RIAA.
Well, that is step one. Step two in a civil disobedience campaign would be to openly and publicly violate their copyright and fully accept the consequences of that act. You see, the point of civil disobedience is that you want to get arrested and charged under the unjust law, and you want to received the punishment mandated by that unjust law in the hopes of making the public at large aware of just how bad the law is.
Are you still down with that?
Is there anything dsl/cable/whatever providers can do to protect their customers from this?
All the more reason to protect your network with a firewall, or run firewall code on all your PCs. If your firewall is configured so as to drop all connections that were not initiated by systems on the secure network, that would go a long way to protecting yourself.
Of course, I think everyone should be firewalled in the first place. That's my $.02 anyways.
Yet there are other commandments to further this one that say, "If you do THIS, you are to be put to death".
Could you provide us with an example or two to support this claim?
You are obviously either unlearned, or repeating things without thinking them through.
Ad homenim attacks will not invalidate the previous post or make your argument any stronger.
I think that the original poster had a valid point and you do not offer any real refutation. IIRC, the commandment says "Thou shalt not kill." Are there any footnotes or subsections to explain the situations where the commandment does not apply? I am no theologian, but I don't think that Christianity, Islam and Judaism support the notion of situational ethics.
There may be circumstances where killing another human being may be necessary, but that does not necessarily make it a morally correct act in and of itself.
Our legislative system is bogged down with bureaucracy and partisan game-playing. The only decisions that get made with any efficiency are those dealing with terrorists or legislators' pay raises. So although I find their goals nauseating, the senators' approach of going straight to the source and sidestepping the whole legislative tar pit is admirable and invigorating.
I wonder if this isn't a bad precedent. The members of the legislature are accountable to the electorate (in theory at least.) If the proposed regulation becomes a law, the voters can hold the senator from Disney accountable for his actions. Referring the matter to the FCC will no doubt be a faster means to the same end, but it is an end-run around the democratic process.
After all, how many people voted for any of the members of the FCC?
If anything, this move strikes me as rather anti-democratic. Certainly, bypassing the individuals who are publicly accountable from the process entirely would speed things up. I am sure that the lobbiests and appointees could get rules and regulations passed much faster. I am not sure that it would be to Joe Sixpack's advantage though...
However, I am sure that the MPAA and RIAA would find the results very satisfactory. Just think how much they could save if they did not have to buy politicians anymore!
I bought the book when I saw it a few months ago. It's great. Like everyone else has said, it is a book about cooking, not a recipe book. It's totally worth having in your library.
His show is great. It's funny and educational and that is a rare combination. The best episode I have seen to date is "Scrap-Iron Chef" in which he parodies Junkyard Wars (aka Scrap Heap Challenge) *and* Iron Chef. It was great. Alton and the other chef had to scrouge up stuff cooking materials from a junkyard to make dishes that best reflected the ingredient of the day. In true Iron Chef fashion, the panel raved about his food, complained about the scrap iron chef's food, and Alton (the challenger) lost...
So, whats the problem with that?
I would have thought it reasonable obvious! Policing the content before they agree to sell it potentially gives WalMart an un-acceptable degree of control over what information is available, and how it is presented. Who elected WalMart to the position of official censor? What gives WalMart the right make those decisions?
What if the Waltons decide that they really don't like abortion, and pressure magazines to adjust their content accordingly. Would that be smart business sense? I suspect that if it were microsoft pressuring MSNBC to present the Beast in a more favourable light, the howls of outrage would be deafening.
Would you be okay with that, too? Or would you agree with me that there are some steps a business should not be willing to take?
Indeed. Perhaps we could get the former executives from Enron and Worldcom to provide some guidance on corporate ethics and responsibility?
Perhaps we should get our own house in order before we start lecturing the Chinese government? (For the record, I think that the Chinese government is totalitarian and corrupt. Remember the Cultural Revolution and Tiannemin Square)
Too many false alarms isn't necessarily a bad thing. In intrusion detection you'd rather take the false positives, than the alternative.
Spoken like someone who does not carry the IDS support pager at nights and on week-ends!
The problem with too many false IDS alarms is that the staff tend to treat it like the boy who cried wolf. After awhile, you disregard the pages or treat them with less consideration because the last n pages have all been false alarms.
I think that IDS is important, but if there are too many false IDS alerts, it becomes difficult to put up with. Because they are strictly reactive systems, it is improbable that there will ever be a perfect IDS that never raises false alarms, but clearly there is a lot of work to do. I am surprised that Snort did so poorly, since it really is a nice system, but it takes a long time to build up a good set of heuristics...
The rate of false fire alarms, and false burgular alarms is VERY high compared to the actual number of real emergencies.
That's right. And in my area, if the police department are called out to the same location for three false burglar alarms in one year, they will not respond to any subsequent alarms automatically. And the fire department charges a fine of $300.00 per incident if they receive more than three false fire alarm calls to the same location in one year. Why? Because, as you said, the number of false alarms is much higher than the number of actual emergencies. The false alarms cost time and money and if all the resources are busy dealing with false alarms, there is nobody left to help when a genuine emergency occurs.
Voting for the status quo is a wasted vote. Both only make government bigger, more intrusive, and cater to big business. Even the greens do that!
The Greens cater to big business? How on earth do you figure that? Please climb down from the soapbox and provide an example, if such an example exists.
If anything, the Green party has a reputation about being the antithesis of big business because they are not willing to sacrifice the planet for the sake of a few grubby dollars.
I fail to see how the Libertarian philosophy has any relevance in the global village we all live in today. Such provincialism is quaint, but rather out-of-step with the real world...
I can only imagine what Spielberg would have done to the series. Ep 3 is supposed to be the darkest of all of the episodes. I'm sorry, but Spielberg just doesn't do dark well enough.
Well, based on Ep.1 and 2, what reason do we have to believe that George has one good movie left in him. Of all the films so far, George was the least involved with The Empire Strikes Back. Dark? Absolutely. Quality? It was the best film of the series.
Now, how is the guy who wrote that drivel that passed as romantic dialogue between Amidala and Anakin in AOTC going to finish the story to the satisfaction of all? The only saving grace is that the ending of Episode 3 must seamlessly integrate with Episode 4 and beyond. We all know how it has to end, George just has to make it all fit.
And for the love of humanity, NO MORE GODDAM REVISIONS. What was achieved by making Greedo shoot first?
Too bad. Next week Time Magazine will require you to read pages 1-36 before reading the article you want on page 37.
Indeed. No doubt some marketdroid will come up with the very clever idea of filling pages 1-36 with ads too...
AIX on a laptop?
You can read about it here
It seems to me that IBM is looking at Linux as an operating system that belongs on server grade hardware and beyond, not on desktops or laptops. There probably are not enough people using Linux on their laptops to justify the time spent supporting it.
They used to have Thinkpads that ran AIX. Some of the SysAdmins I know at IBM used to prefer them for on-site troubleshooting at the server farms since it was UNIX end-to-end (to the extent that AIX is UNIX anyways). But someone decided that it was not worth having the product line and they were scrapped.
Too bad, but this sounds like more of the same...
Rather than a client side tool like SpamNet, I'd like to see something that sits along side mail servers.
Absolutely!
I think that we could dramatically reduce the amount of SPAM out there is we did the following:
All SMTP servers should do a reverse lookup on the IP address of any host that attempts to deliver mail to it, and require any host attempting to send mail to it to identify it's domain. If the domain the mail server provided does not match the domain the IP space is registered to, the mail server should refuse to accept the message and drop the connection.
Since most of the SPAM I receive comes from non-existant domains, I think that something like this could help.
wow, the guy that said that is the same guy that grew the thymus? I would think he would know that death is a condition, a state of being, not a disease.
Wouldn't it be more correct to define death as a state of non-being rather than a state of being?
The compass and protractor are as obsolete as the sextant. If a kid graduates from school and doesn't know how to work a PDA, he's going to quickly learn how to work a deep fryer.
Nice troll...
I suppose the PDA is only a requirement if you want to be a marketdriod. For the rest of us, thinking is going to be considered a valuable ability. Right now, a PDA is just an interesting toy, and many people somehow manage to exist and lead productive, organized lives without one.
For what it is worth, I am all for banning calculators from the classroom. Far better to be able to demonstrate the process by which the student arrived at an answer than to pull some magic number out of the air and expect full marks.
I just graduated from university a couple of years ago and calculation devices of any type were strictly forbidden in my math, statistics, and CS classes. Sometimes it was a pain, but then the answer was rarely expressed as an integer anyways...