I suppose you need to toss... well lets see your palm or ce devices... your all of your usb devices... your digital camera...
apple has pushed the computer envelope for every day users... they have the vision and foresight to do things that they would like to own. Apple computer is what 3dfx was to the game console market.
If you want unix on your Mac PPC system just get OS X. If you want something free get Darwin... if you want free and your system isn't supported get NetBSD.
In my mind BSD is the best choice for a UNIX system... stick with the system that has inovated for TCP/IP networking, stick the orgianl apache platform, stick with the team that writes code correctly the first time, stick with the side that dosn't steal code. Stick with a side that doesn't support richard stallman
after all who else has, or will have, the largest unix install base for everyday users? Apple with BSD/Darwin/OS X
What does it have a nice looking GUI, but is cluncky. But OS X gives you access to a live terminal where you can ssh, mv, cp, link, rm, su, man.... all day long. You can compile the latest apache, mysql, postgresql, php...
funny thing is at one point in time sun was to buy apple...
A Trade School is for people who want skills that would help students in the first 10 years.
A University is a "An institution organized and incorporated for the purpose of imparting instruction, examining students, and otherwise promoting education in the higher branches of literature, science, art, etc."
So if you want to know someting about the world you live in, you want to learn how to learn then you want to attend a university. If you just want to learn how to manage a IT network or learn how to use a program, like CAD, then a trade school is for you.
The purpose of an education is to learn. Learn about the world you live in, the world around you and the world outside of you. An education, nor a university, should never be a coporate training ground.
if you killed walking down the street to work it would be nice for ems to know who you are... to know if you have any reactions to drugs.
i think your just overly scared... whats wrong whit a national id card if done right? contains a picture some basic data about you like where you live and maybe your finger print and dna. and you would never be forced to show a id card walking down a street.
should you be detained for not carring id... sure but in certain places under certain conditions... and until you id can be established... thus the need for finger print or dna.
walking down the street wrong
going to the aiport okay
crossing the boarder okay
in a car pulled over for speeding wrong.
Lots of things in the world are wrong but are for peoples safty. Like checking in at airports... should we not be able to assume everyone on the plane just wants to go from point a to b? Should we not be able to assume that no one hates people enought to shoot them? should we not assume that people are smart enought not to sit in a bathtub with a toster?
come on guys think about it we already have on...
you have a social security card and a drivers license.... and newer drivers liciences have magantetic strips that store data...
I agree asante is the best way to go... it cost a tad more but the quality is much better.
I personally own two of the orginal routers... they are quick and very reliable. I never had a problem with them.
I recentally went to set up a local network for someone... wireless infact. We first purchased LinkSys stuff along with netgear 802.11b cards... we ended up returning the linksys stuff because it don't seem to work... and purchased an asante wireless router. In the end what didn't work was the netgear card (oh and I spent about 2 hours on hold with tech support only to find out the system was down NEVER BUY NETGEAR). I did find a problem with the new wireless asante router it tended to crash not sure why... the firmware was old but the download site wasn't working so I have yet to update.
However I do like the asante products and will only buy asante routers.
One needs more than OpenFirmware to boot a Mac. How ever Apple DOES have a ROM chip... it really does. Yes it does us OF and yes I have a ROM file in my system folder... you need more than OF and a PPC chip to boot a MacOS CD.
you make and ass out of u and me... and I am no ass.
Check your facts. "Open Firmware is the name given to the IEEE-1275 Standard for Boot (Initialization Configuration) Firmware: Core Requirements and Practices." http://www.openfirmware.org/
so the ever-so-popular Linux is the say all end all on making someting popular. Someone better tell AOL and MS that. They might want to get on the boat (ok AOL has kinda)
why isn't firewire supported all that well on linux
a.) linux does a hack job the fist time around
b.) video editing with what? GIMP?
c.) they are waiting for you to write the drivers
d.) its a server os
e.) the new slashdot isn;t running that well so i take it slashdot isn't popular either
See the problem is the poster your refering to only knows two things.... where to download the latest kiddie scripts and how to restart his new linux box... and maybe how to wipe his own ass.
That someone feels like a fool right now. Im sorry but this proves linuxs users are just as smart as mac and win users. They just have more time to spend infront of a computer to write scripts to do things faster so they have to spend less time infront of the computer....
Why not give give the inventor of LSD the noble peice prize... make love not war.
For once I would like to see some one admit they might have been wrong or made a mistake on here.... so why I am using this post to make that statement about the parent poster? well this one seemed to fit in the most.
BTW with out apple you would have
- no easy way to get video from digital camcorders to the computer
- you would have USB hard drive
- you would have USB CD-RWs
Can we see some flambait on that post... I say something bad about linux i get a -1 score for my post and labled flamebate... Hey mods do your job now.... crack that whip.
(however i would agree about the dinner party thing... that is someone i would never want to sit next to)
You forget someting... the poster has either
a.) mouth stuck to MS a-hole
b.) head is stuck so far up Tuxs a-hole
that the poster has no idea which direction is up and down.... in fact i bet the orginal poster types first thinks later... like how the linux kernel is written... thinking again it must by linus!
Good a had mod me down I could care less... I am just stating what I THINK!
the original Unix is gradually becoming Free Software!
I think some has a woody.
Now GNU is gradually taking the place of the original Unix.
Gee duh! How much does UNIX cost? How much does GNU/Linux cost? What is easier for people to use UNIX or some GNU/Linux distro? Its all about numbers people
People who use linux is calling Stallman an a$$ and no one on slashdot is ready to hang someone. Finally slashdoters and i agree... where are them flying pigs... whats his name didn't win the pga... and as far as i know hell hasn't frozen over. Man thats odd.
Slashdot Mirror
yawn.... your post put me to sleep...
I suppose you need to toss... well lets see your palm or ce devices... your all of your usb devices... your digital camera...
apple has pushed the computer envelope for every day users... they have the vision and foresight to do things that they would like to own. Apple computer is what 3dfx was to the game console market.
If you want unix on your Mac PPC system just get OS X. If you want something free get Darwin... if you want free and your system isn't supported get NetBSD.
In my mind BSD is the best choice for a UNIX system... stick with the system that has inovated for TCP/IP networking, stick the orgianl apache platform, stick with the team that writes code correctly the first time, stick with the side that dosn't steal code. Stick with a side that doesn't support richard stallman
And the choice is Linux? Thats a joke right... okay it is better than windows but not as good as FreeBSD or OpenBSD.
Well thats what I think.
the title now belongs to apple.
after all who else has, or will have, the largest unix install base for everyday users? Apple with BSD/Darwin/OS X
What does it have a nice looking GUI, but is cluncky. But OS X gives you access to a live terminal where you can ssh, mv, cp, link, rm, su, man.... all day long. You can compile the latest apache, mysql, postgresql, php...
funny thing is at one point in time sun was to buy apple...
A Trade School is for people who want skills that would help students in the first 10 years.
A University is a "An institution organized and incorporated for the purpose of imparting instruction, examining students, and otherwise promoting education in the higher branches of literature, science, art, etc."
So if you want to know someting about the world you live in, you want to learn how to learn then you want to attend a university. If you just want to learn how to manage a IT network or learn how to use a program, like CAD, then a trade school is for you.
The purpose of an education is to learn. Learn about the world you live in, the world around you and the world outside of you. An education, nor a university, should never be a coporate training ground.
I think you have it backwards... OmniWeb has awhile to go before it can match Mozilla in anything other than looks.
Really... name something other than looks (which is user taste) and java support that OmniWeb has over Mozilla. Not a single thing.
(oh i did use OmniWeb and loved it till i started to use Mozilla)
I would never support a group whos mission it is to protect the GPL... doing so would support RMS
if you killed walking down the street to work it would be nice for ems to know who you are... to know if you have any reactions to drugs.
i think your just overly scared... whats wrong whit a national id card if done right? contains a picture some basic data about you like where you live and maybe your finger print and dna. and you would never be forced to show a id card walking down a street.
should you be detained for not carring id... sure but in certain places under certain conditions... and until you id can be established... thus the need for finger print or dna.
walking down the street wrong
going to the aiport okay
crossing the boarder okay
in a car pulled over for speeding wrong.
Lots of things in the world are wrong but are for peoples safty. Like checking in at airports... should we not be able to assume everyone on the plane just wants to go from point a to b? Should we not be able to assume that no one hates people enought to shoot them? should we not assume that people are smart enought not to sit in a bathtub with a toster?
come on guys think about it we already have on...
you have a social security card and a drivers license.... and newer drivers liciences have magantetic strips that store data...
I agree asante is the best way to go... it cost a tad more but the quality is much better.
I personally own two of the orginal routers... they are quick and very reliable. I never had a problem with them.
I recentally went to set up a local network for someone... wireless infact. We first purchased LinkSys stuff along with netgear 802.11b cards... we ended up returning the linksys stuff because it don't seem to work... and purchased an asante wireless router. In the end what didn't work was the netgear card (oh and I spent about 2 hours on hold with tech support only to find out the system was down NEVER BUY NETGEAR). I did find a problem with the new wireless asante router it tended to crash not sure why... the firmware was old but the download site wasn't working so I have yet to update.
However I do like the asante products and will only buy asante routers.
Sorry I was half asleep posting that reply.
One needs more than OpenFirmware to boot a Mac. How ever Apple DOES have a ROM chip... it really does. Yes it does us OF and yes I have a ROM file in my system folder... you need more than OF and a PPC chip to boot a MacOS CD.
you make and ass out of u and me... and I am no ass.
Check your facts. "Open Firmware is the name given to the IEEE-1275 Standard for Boot (Initialization Configuration) Firmware: Core Requirements and Practices." http://www.openfirmware.org/
No thats not very open nor is it standard!
so the ever-so-popular Linux is the say all end all on making someting popular. Someone better tell AOL and MS that. They might want to get on the boat (ok AOL has kinda)
why isn't firewire supported all that well on linux
a.) linux does a hack job the fist time around
b.) video editing with what? GIMP?
c.) they are waiting for you to write the drivers
d.) its a server os
e.) the new slashdot isn;t running that well so i take it slashdot isn't popular either
Macintosh for The Net... or Windows for Sneakers
Linux isn't a OS everyday people care about... ok geeks maybe but not your average joe.
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You know what I am so amazed that you haven't been moded down to flamebait or troll yet...
Now wonder your a Coward... you don't us a Mac... I bet your in penguin heaven.
See the problem is the poster your refering to only knows two things.... where to download the latest kiddie scripts and how to restart his new linux box... and maybe how to wipe his own ass.
...no not that feeling.
That someone feels like a fool right now. Im sorry but this proves linuxs users are just as smart as mac and win users. They just have more time to spend infront of a computer to write scripts to do things faster so they have to spend less time infront of the computer....
Why not give give the inventor of LSD the noble peice prize... make love not war.
Ya'know what...
For once I would like to see some one admit they might have been wrong or made a mistake on here.... so why I am using this post to make that statement about the parent poster? well this one seemed to fit in the most.
BTW with out apple you would have
- no easy way to get video from digital camcorders to the computer
- you would have USB hard drive
- you would have USB CD-RWs
Can we see some flambait on that post... I say something bad about linux i get a -1 score for my post and labled flamebate... Hey mods do your job now.... crack that whip.
(however i would agree about the dinner party thing... that is someone i would never want to sit next to)
True but....
Lets face it I could only by my shinny new G4 from apple. How proprietory are the roms? Very.
You forget someting... the poster has either
a.) mouth stuck to MS a-hole
b.) head is stuck so far up Tuxs a-hole
that the poster has no idea which direction is up and down.... in fact i bet the orginal poster types first thinks later... like how the linux kernel is written... thinking again it must by linus!
Good a had mod me down I could care less... I am just stating what I THINK!
I think some has a woody.
Now GNU is gradually taking the place of the original Unix.
Gee duh! How much does UNIX cost? How much does GNU/Linux cost? What is easier for people to use UNIX or some GNU/Linux distro? Its all about numbers people
People who use linux is calling Stallman an a$$ and no one on slashdot is ready to hang someone. Finally slashdoters and i agree... where are them flying pigs... whats his name didn't win the pga... and as far as i know hell hasn't frozen over. Man thats odd.