Yes I too miss Zune. I have been looking for an expensive way to hold down papers, fill my pocket and weight down mousies that I throw into the lake who can't pay their mafia debts. Now that Microsoft has bowed out of this lucrative market, who else is going to come forward to fill this HUGE markets demands???
Why do I want to PICK one, when I can run them all, at the same time?
Because the host os requires memory as does each guest. For what you are talking about above, you need a bare minimum of 8GB and it wouldn't run that well. Its rare that you need all them open at the same time.
gee I dunno, only that the web drives everything nowadays? did you ever think of that? That web applications are what power everything? Hence why HTML5 and JS are the new focus. Its not like Microsoft just picked two languages blindly from a friggin hat. Think about it.
No... just that if you want them to work on iPhone and Android and the other 45% of the web market that Microsoft can't run ActiveX and it's other proprietariness in, HTML5/JS is the way to go.
In other words, 'we don't dominate anymore so we need to use open tools... deal with it'
The fortune 500 does not represent the market as a whole; they are sluggish and slow moving whn adopting technology while the rest of the world moves much quicker. They are actually a very poor indicator of technology adoption. It's like measuring the military for technology adoption; we'd all still be on mainframes according to those statistics (which alot of fortune 500's still are oddly enough).
Net Applications bases their numbers on Fortune 500 companies (or something like that) so its REALLY slanted. IE actually already is well below 50%. It was also shown that while people were forced to use IE in the workplace, the second they left work, IE stats dropped dramatically as people started surfing at home on their personal computers.
In all seriousness, between lockin and the inability to own my media I purchased, I'm debating going completely back to a Linux laptop and just VM'ing the others I need. Apple hates Java, Windows hates everything that wasn't created (or owned) by Microsoft and everyone is trying to do venor lockin now... even UBUNTU!!! I'm just going to install Debian and tell everyone else to get bent. This is beginning to piss me off.
Suppose you train them in all the things you listed, and they grasp them all and can do them, then how is the programmer mediocre? Sounds like a top notch programmer to me!
Well thats the point isn't it? A mediocre programmer can become more adequate if they are put within a good environment with good development process and good management to follow through on their responsibilities.
You can use mediocre programmers if you have (and enforce) good development process and train them in best practices. Being able to build code that is easy for the programmer to read (and others to read), separation of sql/html,css,js/ etc into their respective parts of the MVC/ORM pattern, consistent inline documentation, consistent comments on code checkins, etc., following the same rules for writing code (development docs)
A good development process can alleviate many of the problems with having to do all that testing as you test because you have a bad development process wherein you are unable to easily have the developer look at his comments, his documentation and his clearly written code and go 'oh thats the issue'
Not saying this will ELIMINATE the need for testing but this reduces the need for at least 30-50% of it if everyone is properly trained in a good development process and it is enforced.
Again... off topic. And more a discusion for the forums at the OSI. You can make copies of both. That doesn't necessarily imply ownership. Modification is also an additional necessity for ownership. But now you are going into the definition of open source software and should be taking this discussion to the OSI forums.
read the context of the discussion. His response was to the original post which was saying 'use open source instead of closed source because it doesn't belong to someone else' and he stated that everything belongs to someone else (in response to open source being 'open'). You are speaking out of context. No one is talking about XP. Stay in the context of the discussion.
You are confusing ownership and maintenance. Just because the car manufacturer is the one who maintains your car, does that mean you do't own your car? Just because an electrician comes in to fix your wiring, does that mean they own your home? Open source code is the same; it was released into the wild and is owned by no one. You can do with it what you want. You can fork Linux and have 'Billy Bob's Super Awesome Funky Linux' Distro... and many have!
Do not confuse ownership and maintenance else I'm going to come over to your house and fix your sink and kick you out.
Actually I stated quite a few languages and you happen to choose only one. But yes, all of those languages have been used in fortune 500 companies in numerous enterprise applications. Were you attempting to make a point?
Well they were obviously planning to get rid of the office in the first place but went about it in a manner that made it a discrimination case and cost them 1 yrs worth of legal fees and expenses and a years salary: total cost to them approximately $200-250K when they were trying to screw me for free.
I'd say the mediators did their job; the company merely didnt want to get labeled as a discriminatory company and have to spend 5 yrs being monitored and spending their money having every employee go through extra training which would cost them approx $1 million or more in the long run (not to mention the bad press which is a hard to put a price on).
My tale is a cautionary one for anyone considering working for finance; you are a throw away asset and thats the way they see you.
I just finished working for a Hedge Fund management company that 'merged' with a larger company in Denver. They were all Windows with 10 engineers (sys admin and developers) and we were LAMP and I was doing everything. At first, theirs was a typical response to that stack reacting like a deer in headlights and not wanting to touch it but then they decided that it was important to integrate the systems and get rid of the redundant IT (IE me). But since I ran everything and got tremendous results (employee of the month and such) their only option was to try and make me look bad so they tried to say it was my attitude and my emotional response to which I let them know I was bipolar and on medication and seeing a counselor regularly for several years and high stress situation (like mergers) made the condition worse and I was trying to correct for that but they needed to be accepting of a condition that is seen as a disability.
Long story short, both HR and upper management then colluded, ignored my requests and I documented everything and they were investigated by federal agencies. A year later, we settled through federal mediators for a years salary.
In the end, I found out that they were just a good old boys network and one person would protect the other to protect the other to protect the other. Lies upon lies upon lies to cover their asses. In talking to others, this is typical in finance. If this is something that you want and like in your employers, I say go for it. Otherwise stay far away.
The only company that hires for dotnet is Microsoft for the most part. Web development is dominated by PHP and Java and to a lesser extent Python and Ruby. Mobile development is done in Objective C and Java. And desktop and game development is still done to a large extent in C and C++. Dotnet never really took off and Microsoft killing off IronRuby and IronPython didn't help dotnet much.
Doesn't Groovy and Grails already do that? Speaking as a LAMP developer who uses Groovy/grails, I figured that WAS Java's answer cause I'm having a blast and dumping PHP like a hot potato.
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Yes I too miss Zune. I have been looking for an expensive way to hold down papers, fill my pocket and weight down mousies that I throw into the lake who can't pay their mafia debts. Now that Microsoft has bowed out of this lucrative market, who else is going to come forward to fill this HUGE markets demands???
Why do I want to PICK one, when I can run them all, at the same time?
Because the host os requires memory as does each guest. For what you are talking about above, you need a bare minimum of 8GB and it wouldn't run that well. Its rare that you need all them open at the same time.
They should melt down all those lead figurines and then get those obsessive nerds to handpaint it with those tiny brushes.
gee I dunno, only that the web drives everything nowadays? did you ever think of that? That web applications are what power everything? Hence why HTML5 and JS are the new focus. Its not like Microsoft just picked two languages blindly from a friggin hat. Think about it.
No ... just that if you want them to work on iPhone and Android and the other 45% of the web market that Microsoft can't run ActiveX and it's other proprietariness in, HTML5/JS is the way to go.
In other words, 'we don't dominate anymore so we need to use open tools... deal with it'
The fortune 500 does not represent the market as a whole; they are sluggish and slow moving whn adopting technology while the rest of the world moves much quicker. They are actually a very poor indicator of technology adoption. It's like measuring the military for technology adoption; we'd all still be on mainframes according to those statistics (which alot of fortune 500's still are oddly enough).
Net Applications bases their numbers on Fortune 500 companies (or something like that) so its REALLY slanted. IE actually already is well below 50%. It was also shown that while people were forced to use IE in the workplace, the second they left work, IE stats dropped dramatically as people started surfing at home on their personal computers.
In all seriousness, between lockin and the inability to own my media I purchased, I'm debating going completely back to a Linux laptop and just VM'ing the others I need. Apple hates Java, Windows hates everything that wasn't created (or owned) by Microsoft and everyone is trying to do venor lockin now... even UBUNTU!!! I'm just going to install Debian and tell everyone else to get bent. This is beginning to piss me off.
Suppose you train them in all the things you listed, and they grasp them all and can do them, then how is the programmer mediocre? Sounds like a top notch programmer to me!
Well thats the point isn't it? A mediocre programmer can become more adequate if they are put within a good environment with good development process and good management to follow through on their responsibilities.
You can use mediocre programmers if you have (and enforce) good development process and train them in best practices. Being able to build code that is easy for the programmer to read (and others to read), separation of sql/html,css,js/ etc into their respective parts of the MVC/ORM pattern, consistent inline documentation, consistent comments on code checkins, etc., following the same rules for writing code (development docs)
A good development process can alleviate many of the problems with having to do all that testing as you test because you have a bad development process wherein you are unable to easily have the developer look at his comments, his documentation and his clearly written code and go 'oh thats the issue'
Not saying this will ELIMINATE the need for testing but this reduces the need for at least 30-50% of it if everyone is properly trained in a good development process and it is enforced.
that and banging your head on your keyboard until the world makes sense again.
Enjoy! :)
this could be one of two things: wifi hotspots being found via a network of other iphones or the network of iphones in the area.
and again... off topic.
Again... off topic. And more a discusion for the forums at the OSI. You can make copies of both. That doesn't necessarily imply ownership. Modification is also an additional necessity for ownership. But now you are going into the definition of open source software and should be taking this discussion to the OSI forums.
read the context of the discussion. His response was to the original post which was saying 'use open source instead of closed source because it doesn't belong to someone else' and he stated that everything belongs to someone else (in response to open source being 'open'). You are speaking out of context. No one is talking about XP. Stay in the context of the discussion.
You are confusing ownership and maintenance. Just because the car manufacturer is the one who maintains your car, does that mean you do't own your car? Just because an electrician comes in to fix your wiring, does that mean they own your home? Open source code is the same; it was released into the wild and is owned by no one. You can do with it what you want. You can fork Linux and have 'Billy Bob's Super Awesome Funky Linux' Distro... and many have!
Do not confuse ownership and maintenance else I'm going to come over to your house and fix your sink and kick you out.
judging from the amount of radioactive water they have been dumping, this is obviously Godzilla waking up. Duh.
Actually I stated quite a few languages and you happen to choose only one. But yes, all of those languages have been used in fortune 500 companies in numerous enterprise applications. Were you attempting to make a point?
Well they were obviously planning to get rid of the office in the first place but went about it in a manner that made it a discrimination case and cost them 1 yrs worth of legal fees and expenses and a years salary: total cost to them approximately $200-250K when they were trying to screw me for free.
I'd say the mediators did their job; the company merely didnt want to get labeled as a discriminatory company and have to spend 5 yrs being monitored and spending their money having every employee go through extra training which would cost them approx $1 million or more in the long run (not to mention the bad press which is a hard to put a price on).
My tale is a cautionary one for anyone considering working for finance; you are a throw away asset and thats the way they see you.
I just finished working for a Hedge Fund management company that 'merged' with a larger company in Denver. They were all Windows with 10 engineers (sys admin and developers) and we were LAMP and I was doing everything. At first, theirs was a typical response to that stack reacting like a deer in headlights and not wanting to touch it but then they decided that it was important to integrate the systems and get rid of the redundant IT (IE me). But since I ran everything and got tremendous results (employee of the month and such) their only option was to try and make me look bad so they tried to say it was my attitude and my emotional response to which I let them know I was bipolar and on medication and seeing a counselor regularly for several years and high stress situation (like mergers) made the condition worse and I was trying to correct for that but they needed to be accepting of a condition that is seen as a disability.
Long story short, both HR and upper management then colluded, ignored my requests and I documented everything and they were investigated by federal agencies. A year later, we settled through federal mediators for a years salary.
In the end, I found out that they were just a good old boys network and one person would protect the other to protect the other to protect the other. Lies upon lies upon lies to cover their asses. In talking to others, this is typical in finance. If this is something that you want and like in your employers, I say go for it. Otherwise stay far away.
The only company that hires for dotnet is Microsoft for the most part. Web development is dominated by PHP and Java and to a lesser extent Python and Ruby. Mobile development is done in Objective C and Java. And desktop and game development is still done to a large extent in C and C++. Dotnet never really took off and Microsoft killing off IronRuby and IronPython didn't help dotnet much.
Jython will grow organically if people like it. If they dont they it won't. Easily solved.
Doesn't Groovy and Grails already do that? Speaking as a LAMP developer who uses Groovy/grails, I figured that WAS Java's answer cause I'm having a blast and dumping PHP like a hot potato.
Cool. Let the monkeys have Texas. My only fear is that the monkeys also have learned how to shoot guns too and run for president.