Native Mac apps often have different GUI layouting. An as you say...
> Mac people like polished apps... Mac users like that.
OSX apps do not just use Aqua for the Widgets, they have a completely diferent approach to GUI design!
I think the Qt NWF http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/ooo-nwf.html will be a good basis for a version of OOo that blends in with MasOSX, since: - Qt uses more native Aqua routines in every new release - if there is a MacOSX version of OOo using Qt-lib then it will be much easier to just ajust the GUI of OOo that it matches the OSX feel (i.e. get some nice big icon in that toolbar)
Conclusion: Yes, I do have confidence in the Qt road to a MasOSX port of OOo, because it is a much better startingpoint than the current OOo version running on OSX:
Which is plain ugly (as you can see) and needs X11 AFAIK.
Just see how KOffice (using Qt) is doing in comparison: http://ranger.befunk.com/screenshots/qt-mac-kword- 20040101.png And this is only a proof-of-concept kind of quick-port. No addional GUI refactoring has been done! Since that is what every GUI apps that is ported to OSX needs!
Last screenshot to prove my last statements: http://www.openoffice.org/screenshots/images/compa re_ms_osx.png This is the current difference between OOoWriter-for-OSX an OSX' most used wordprocessor: MS Word. This prove 2 things IMHO: - OSX users do massively use badly intergrated apps (i.e. MS Word) - OOo cant get much worse...
> What is the successor of the XFree86? > Xouvert? freedesktop.org?"
Not that I'm an X hater but I truly hope that this brings room to new, non-X initiatives. Like: plan9 [http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/screenshot. html] and directfb [http://www.directfb.org/news/count/gtk-themed-alp ha.png] and others.
I wish good luck to Xouvert, freedesktop.org and all the others that now have to think of the future!
> it's up to individuals to make sure every single port is secure against someone wanting to cause damage to your computer/company/bank account.
I agree NOT: Joe User will never understand all the priciples of email/ports/www/etc.. The software makers will have to "make sure every single port is secure", and if not they need to build in an security update mechanism.
You seemingly don't get where yoga/meditaion is about... Sientific books/ articles you might want to read are published on these techniques. I suggest you do;-)
So you say because of the USA joined the allied forces to stop Hitler's horrible campain in half Europe, the same half Europe should now -- 50 years later -- be _helping_ Bush in it's own horrible campain?
You're nuts my son...
- Hands of the Middle-East! - the USA should destroy their weapons! (just because like they want other counties to do so) - The UN should correct Iraq....
Patriatism is a mental drug!
_______________
demo(n)cracy defroms (you) -- read on a wall in Rotterdam......it a nice one maybe something for the quote collection of/.
In Rotterdam (the place where I live) they used a remote controlled zeppelin to watch the crowd after a game of soccer. They where afraid for hooligans.
It was said that the 'eye' in the zeppelin was able to record the color of an iris.
I don't it this is a bad idea to use this spy-zeppelins......probably because I'm not drugbaron or a hooligan.
Thanks, you deserve the karma... that's the info i was looking for! Now, how's in charge of not releasing the kmusic package... To my opinion this package is quite releasable, isn't it?
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I do not agree!
... Mac users like that.
t er_osx.png
- 20040101.png
a re_ms_osx.png
Qt apps can look quite nice on MacOSX, okay it OpenWriter will not look as native as Apple's own 'Pages'.
Pages:
http://www.apple.com/iwork/pages/word.html
Native Mac apps often have different GUI layouting. An as you say...
> Mac people like polished apps
OSX apps do not just use Aqua for the Widgets, they have a completely diferent approach to GUI design!
I think the Qt NWF http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/ooo-nwf.html
will be a good basis for a version of OOo that blends in with MasOSX, since:
- Qt uses more native Aqua routines in every new release
- if there is a MacOSX version of OOo using Qt-lib then it will be much easier to just ajust the GUI of OOo that it matches the OSX feel (i.e. get some nice big icon in that toolbar)
Conclusion:
Yes, I do have confidence in the Qt road to a MasOSX port of OOo, because it is a much better startingpoint than the current OOo version running on OSX:
http://www.openoffice.org/screenshots/images/swri
Which is plain ugly (as you can see) and needs X11 AFAIK.
Just see how KOffice (using Qt) is doing in comparison:
http://ranger.befunk.com/screenshots/qt-mac-kword
And this is only a proof-of-concept kind of quick-port. No addional GUI refactoring has been done! Since that is what every GUI apps that is ported to OSX needs!
Last screenshot to prove my last statements:
http://www.openoffice.org/screenshots/images/comp
This is the current difference between OOoWriter-for-OSX an OSX' most used wordprocessor: MS Word. This prove 2 things IMHO:
- OSX users do massively use badly intergrated apps (i.e. MS Word)
- OOo cant get much worse...
_cies.
"Honestly, what's the point when you can have binary packages."
:)
Come on you know exactly what is the point...
The retro feeling can be one of the though
luckily i download this 4 hours ago...
:)
now all you guys can enjoy the fleed
Will PlayStation Linux run on it? I heard Sony released a distro of linux for their playstation, will thay also release one OR update it for the PSX?
I do hope so!
cies.
> What is the successor of the XFree86?
. html] and directfb [http://www.directfb.org/news/count/gtk-themed-alp ha.png] and others.
> Xouvert? freedesktop.org?"
Not that I'm an X hater but I truly hope that this brings room to new, non-X initiatives.
Like: plan9 [http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/screenshot
I wish good luck to Xouvert, freedesktop.org and all the others that now have to think of the future!
cies
MY WINDOWS HAS THIS CODE IMPLEMENTED IN IT'S CORE!
since the program only runs on windows, this "feature" is not as original as it seems...
cheers,
cies.
> ABOLISH ALL LAWS AGAINST HACKING!
agreed
> it's up to individuals to make sure every single port is secure against someone wanting to cause damage to your computer/company/bank account.
I agree NOT: Joe User will never understand all the priciples of email/ports/www/etc.. The software makers will have to "make sure every single port is secure", and if not they need to build in an security update mechanism.
cheers,
cies
Can anyone of the slashdot crow tell me why big companies DONT GO WITH DEBIAN??
Is it becouse of the free nature of Debian -- they can't buy 'm out if it's time for it?
[the free nature of Debian must also have it's pro's right?]
Anyone?
Cheers,
Cies.
turgid wrote:
;-)
> Enforced yoga, meditation [...]
You seemingly don't get where yoga/meditaion is about... Sientific books/ articles you might want to read are published on these techniques. I suggest you do
Peace, love and harmony!
*grin*
Cies.
Wanted to post this one, but that would be a dupe ;-)
Music programs: get your ported asses over here!
(I'd love to see CuBaseSX on linux)
So you say because of the USA joined the allied forces to stop Hitler's horrible campain in half Europe, the same half Europe should now -- 50 years later -- be _helping_ Bush in it's own horrible campain?
...it a nice one maybe something for the quote collection of /.
You're nuts my son...
- Hands of the Middle-East!
- the USA should destroy their weapons! (just because like they want other counties to do so)
- The UN should correct Iraq....
Patriatism is a mental drug!
_______________
demo(n)cracy defroms (you)
-- read on a wall in Rotterdam...
Can anybody explain to me what zeroconfig is?
(Looks like something interesting...)
-Cies.
Share-
...a cookie
-dsource
-ware
Just a other free beer...
...something i read on www.zetatalk.com.
Creapy.
...so they must know how wrote it, in order to transfer the money.
When they know who wrote it they'll also know who to sue!
Watch out boy'n'girls: life is hard...
-c
In Rotterdam (the place where I live) they used a remote controlled zeppelin to watch the crowd after a game of soccer. They where afraid for hooligans.
...probably because I'm not drugbaron or a hooligan.
It was said that the 'eye' in the zeppelin was able to record the color of an iris.
I don't it this is a bad idea to use this spy-zeppelins...
Afcourse there are universe cycles, is there anything that does not have cycles?
-C
-- will allways be first: ;-)
cause they've got no shipping
(is Athedra correctly spelled? i hope so)
S ES SID=19c1920d67c4471b8801c7b03cb57f44
Such a thing is currently in development
http://www.thekompany.com/projects/aethera/?PHP
here you go...
cies.
(nope it was spelled *wrong*)
But then it wouldn't be platform independent, right?
So will I be able to see the source code of the game?
Thanks, you deserve the karma... that's the info i was looking for!
Now, how's in charge of not releasing the kmusic package... To my opinion this package is quite releasable, isn't it?
-C
I just need a MIDI sequencer, and brahms delivers that+some need extra's... that all ;-)
(i wish i could get it to work (i tried a _lot_))
two qusetions...
1. Does anyone know about themes that make KDE and GTK (GNOME) look exactly like each other?
2. Will brahms (a OSS Cubase clone) be in KDE3?
thanks,
Cies.