The problem is, you really can't expect end users to use a CLI to install anything.
Why? Why is it so unreasonable to expect people to know how to use their computer?
Using a CLI requires two things: the ability to read, and the ability to type (even if it's just hunt-and-peck typing).
If a user can't do that, they need to learn. There are too many users that shut off their brains when they sit in front of a computer and it needs to stop.
A recent conversation I had (after driving across town to our other office):
User: "The internet is down! I can't get to this web page."
Me: "You see where it says 'Click here to continue to this website'? Click it."
It would be fine for me if smoking was stopped everywhere, but it is kind of pointless as long as many areas still do not have mandatory automobile emissions testing.
How is it pointless? Are you saying that if we can't fix a problem completely we shouldn't bother to do anything at all?
because myspace somehow knows how old a person is when they sign up. and furthermore they have this amazing genealogical computer to tell them who everyone's parents are.
right, because it's totally impossible for a computer to run more than one program at a time. it's too bad video playing couldn't happen on one cpu while video compression happened on another. someone should invent that. it could be called "Sametime Many Programs" or "SMP" for short.
Slashdot is not journalism, it is a place where we geeks come together to discuss geek-oriented news that other people have reported. And what language is understood by pretty much every geek? That's right! It's l33t.
Riiiight, because we have the time to verify the millions of possible sites a teacher or student might be visiting. It's not like we have thousands of computers to maintain and repair, or a district wide network to keep up.
And yes, the teachers have to be blocked too, they are just as bad if not worse than the students for "unapproved surfing."
No, they are complete morons because there is *always* one piece or another of myspace.com that is down. Maybe today it's the bulletins, tomorrow the pictures and comments on your profile. And of course there's always the random "Login had been disabled temporarily due to database problems."
Of course, I don't expect much from a site running off of IIS on Windows.
In 2000, some friends and I made up a fake company and business cards and used that to get into E3. Don't know if you can still get away with that though.
One of your biggest problems is going to be spyware, do yourself a favor and setup a DNS blackhole. We've set this up here at the Iberia Parish school district in Louisiana and love it.
Get some kind of imaging software like Symantec Ghost, try to keep your software installations as identical as possible.
Give each user a share on the server and make them save their documents there instead of on their hard drive (you can redirect My Documents to a share with Group Policies). Makes recovery much easier when you need to replace a hard drive, or re-image a Windows install that's overridden with viruses/spyware/etc.
Leave Windows on the workstations, but install Linux on old servers to be used for DNS/web caching/samba/whatever.
When you setup your firewall be sure to block the ports of AIM/Yahoo/MSN/IRC/Kazaa/Gnutella/and whatever else you can think of. If you don't, I can promise you the students will do nothing but chat and download music all day.
Slashdot Mirror
Using a CLI requires two things: the ability to read, and the ability to type (even if it's just hunt-and-peck typing).
If a user can't do that, they need to learn. There are too many users that shut off their brains when they sit in front of a computer and it needs to stop.
A recent conversation I had (after driving across town to our other office):
User: "The internet is down! I can't get to this web page."
Me: "You see where it says 'Click here to continue to this website'? Click it."
How the fuck is someone using money they have earned to buy a trip into space an unfair privilege?
It's ok Bender, there's no such thing as two.
Why is playstation support being included in the kernel?
Why is there x86 support in the kernel? why is there PowerPC support in the kernel?
To make linux run on these systems. Duh.
What matters is does it work? Will it really mighty my penis?
Why not?
When did SlashDot ... become a $subject fan site? Are we going to start hearing about every $subject each week?
This is just a waste of space and time. Stop posting about dumb crap like this!
It would be fine for me if smoking was stopped everywhere, but it is kind of pointless as long as many areas still do not have mandatory automobile emissions testing.
How is it pointless? Are you saying that if we can't fix a problem completely we shouldn't bother to do anything at all?
The owners of MySpace *could* take it upon themselves to police the actions of children...
How? How could they possibly police the millions of profiles on myspace?
because myspace somehow knows how old a person is when they sign up. and furthermore they have this amazing genealogical computer to tell them who everyone's parents are.
right, because it's totally impossible for a computer to run more than one program at a time.
it's too bad video playing couldn't happen on one cpu while video compression happened on another.
someone should invent that. it could be called "Sametime Many Programs" or "SMP" for short.
Why is any show that has a plotline and character development branded a "soap opera"? Can anyone explain this to me?
I like to call them "dollars."
That's what you sound like.
Slashdot is not journalism, it is a place where we geeks come together to discuss geek-oriented news that other people have reported. And what language is understood by pretty much every geek? That's right! It's l33t.
I think you mean the express purpose.
Riiiight, because we have the time to verify the millions of possible sites a teacher or student might be visiting. It's not like we have thousands of computers to maintain and repair, or a district wide network to keep up.
And yes, the teachers have to be blocked too, they are just as bad if not worse than the students for "unapproved surfing."
No, they are complete morons because there is *always* one piece or another of myspace.com that is down. Maybe today it's the bulletins, tomorrow the pictures and comments on your profile. And of course there's always the random "Login had been disabled temporarily due to database problems."
Of course, I don't expect much from a site running off of IIS on Windows.
That's the combination to my luggage!
Peter, those are cheerios.
Who has executable images?
.EXEs and .COMs are executable images.
(Image does not always mean "picture").
Anyone who has a computer.
For Windows,
http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/ 29/1732238
In 2000, some friends and I made up a fake company and business cards and used that to get into E3. Don't know if you can still get away with that though.
Right, because taking 10 seconds to create a slashdot account and posting under that would somehow prove that he's a physicist.
You'll have to be more specific.
One of your biggest problems is going to be spyware, do yourself a favor and setup a DNS blackhole. We've set this up here at the Iberia Parish school district in Louisiana and love it.
Get some kind of imaging software like Symantec Ghost, try to keep your software installations as identical as possible.
Give each user a share on the server and make them save their documents there instead of on their hard drive (you can redirect My Documents to a share with Group Policies). Makes recovery much easier when you need to replace a hard drive, or re-image a Windows install that's overridden with viruses/spyware/etc.
Leave Windows on the workstations, but install Linux on old servers to be used for DNS/web caching/samba/whatever.
When you setup your firewall be sure to block the ports of AIM/Yahoo/MSN/IRC/Kazaa/Gnutella/and whatever else you can think of. If you don't, I can promise you the students will do nothing but chat and download music all day.