TurboLinux definitely comes in a Chinese language version and I've seen RedHat Boxes with Chinese Characters on them as well. *However*, this is in Hong Kong and the characters used on the mainland are subtly different. I would hazard a guess that once unicode/multi-byte character support is in there, then the actual language is a minor detail.
Linux (or free Unices in general) are probably the way for China to go, but Microsoft has a big foothold in there already.
Dr. Who's dog K-9 is faster than two pieces of overcooked celery?
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no, in my experience, most people who call themselves christians want to shove their religion down my throat.
but i know lots of priests (being an irish ex-catholic) and most of *them* are good people. i would say that people who think they are christians probably aren't but those who actually are christians are decent, good people.
I don't think it's illegal to post someone's mail unless they have *specifically* noted that the message is copyright. While it is usually seen as a breach of netiquette to do so, the 'flaming of wretches' is also a breach of netiquette in itself. Quite frankly, if someone sent mail like that to me, I'd almost feel obliged to make a special page for them on my website to show the world their communication skills. Just how many people, on receipt of email like this, will say: "Gosh! I do suck after all! And yes, that *is* true about my mother! (hey, maybe *I* should try multiple exclamation points too!! Goodness, what a rUsH!!!) My word, I must write back and ask this gentleman where I can get one of these 'life' things he recommends." dAvE "iSn'T tHiS sTuDlYcApS tHiNg CoNdUcIvE tO cLeArEr CoMmUnIcAtIoN?!?1!" o
if you press down on the mouse wheel, it acts as the middle button. at least it does for me and my mouse type is IMPS/2. i haven't figured out how to get the wheel working, though, which is a shame as i like to read/. slumped bonelessly with one paw outstretched to the mouse. anyone have any success with implementing mwheelup and mwheeldn?
(i was going to make some comment about one handed web browsing, but felt that some people would take it the wrong way...)
dave "it's a *beer* in the other hand!" o (no, not *that* daveo)
Windows 1.0 and 2.x were the runtime environments which came with early versions of Excel, IIRC. Windows 3.0 was pretty bad and very flaky, but compared to naked dos, not bad. Personally, i find the idea of date stamping a product not completely nuts. i mean, if you know that a box is running win95, but office 2000, then you can figure that the OS may need updating.
> "Go find interesting things and tell us about > them".
i refer the right honourable gentleman to the following quote from the "Real Programmers don't use Pascal":
Some of the most awesome real programmers of all work at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California. Many of them know the entire operating system of the Pioneer and Voyager spacecraft by heart. With a combination of large ground-based FORTRAN programs and small spacecraft-based assembly language programs, they are able to do incredible feats of navigation and improvisation - hitting ten-kilometer wide windows at Saturn platforms, radios, and batteries. Allegedly, one real programmer managed to tuck a pattern-matching program into a few hundred bytes of unused memory in a Voyager spacecraft that searched for, located, and photographed a new moon of Jupiter.
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> 5 points for 3 days is too much for most > people...they're just trigger happy
from what i see, the moderation work pretty much ok, although there is a *slight* tendency to prefer linus positive comments.
certainly, remarks which beg to be moderated down tend to be ignored, which, IMHO, is good.
btw, i've tagged this post as [M]eta in accordance with the alt.fan.pratchett guidelines, which may bb becoming relevant to the continuining debates on moderation here.
i'm assuming that all posters here don't need to be told how to find out how to search a newgroup for faq's. anyone who doesn't know can reread the new user faqs in the appropriate place.
> Tom posted utter bullshit on his website, which > I might add is sponsored by the company whose > graphics card won all of the NON WORKING > TIMEDEMO score comparisons. That DEMANDS a > reply.
Tom allegedly based his benchmarks on the illegal hardware test which was leaked.
> Hopefully one of these days > somebody will go through the trouble of dragging > those bastards into Euro-court and getting > them invalidated under the European Declaration > of Human Rights (which is the REAL British > constitution).
agreed
british law needs to be dragged into compliance with eurpean law. as an example: i can be held without trial indefinitly in.uk purely becaus ei happen to be irish. the racism acts don;t apply to irish people...
Lawrence Godfrey wrote: > To show you that we are superior race. > Read all my articles. Believe me when I said this, > In my experience with Thai women, they are no less than animals. > The women are there to please us and obey our command. > Money! Yes, you can grab children off the street, rip off their clothes > and fuck them on the street as easy as 1-2-3. > > Oh! we are the White God to them. Again, Odzer book is wonderful. > Thai women are slaves to the world. > They offer great sex. Blow JOBS!!! SUCK MY DICKS AND YOURS!
having just read the article in question as poted above, i have to say that i have no respect for the person who would say these things. he obviously has very little experience of thai people (who are probably the friendliest people in the world) and has been on some kind of sex tour to SE asia, where he was exposed to the *really* seamy side of Bangkok.
So.
a: Mr Godfrey is a Sex Tourist and possibly a Paedophile;
b: he dislikes this being made public knowledge
c: he is willing to clarify uk law in such a way as to completely restrict the ability of uk people to post or publish on the web anything which may be considered defamatory by *anyone*. i.e. if i don't like "the phantom menace", mr. lucas can sue me!
> Too bad ISP's can be run without an ethics > board. These people control content by what > authority?
This is *exactly* the point. ISPs *do* *not* control content. they are common carriers and not responsible for the demented gibberings of their users.
If you insist that ISPs have responsibility for the content of their sites then you can kiss good bye to your own site, unless your ISP have approved it for content.
In fact the way this thread seems to be going, it's the most oppressive regime possible which will control what you can post.
Remember, the penalty for spam/"unlawful use of internet" in China is either imprisonment or a bullet in the brain.
>...but it sounds like they (Demon) are being > reasonable about it until they're lawyers can > draw up a sensible policy.
exactly.
the uk needs some kind of 'common carrier' law, otherwise any idiot with a grudge could shut down most of the isp's for slander/liber/words they never heard in the bible.
think about it: if demon are liable for something which appeared in their newsfeed, what's to stop every kook of the month worldwide for suing for defamation? they must be liable for all the porn in their (very uncensored) newsfeed. they must be liable for any negative comments on their own websites, and by the extension of an ignorant court, all websites worldwide.
would *you* like to be held responsible for www.godhatesfags.com? or any other gibbering site?
> A static IP address plus fax-to-email and batch > FTP is not worth an extra five quid a month > (although it is Most Handy, I admit).
no, you pay your ten quid a month for your own domain name, all the email addresses you need, a static ip, an almost completely uncensored newsfeed, 15Mb web space, smtp delivery of mail, AND pop3 mail, support.
mind you, you're also paying for turnpike, but you're not obliged to use that.
me, i think demon is so worth hanging on to, i keep it even though i don't live in the uk anymore.
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TurboLinux definitely comes in a Chinese language version and I've seen RedHat Boxes with Chinese Characters on them as well.
*However*, this is in Hong Kong and the characters used on the mainland are subtly different. I would hazard a guess that once unicode/multi-byte character support is in there, then the actual language is a minor detail.
Linux (or free Unices in general) are probably the way for China to go, but Microsoft has a big foothold in there already.
lau dai wai-ah
> How in the FUCK would anyone ever know how to do that?
/usr/src/linux directory which tells you exactly what to do.
Well, lessee, there's a README file in the
I managed to recompile my kernel by just having the README open in one xterm and typing away in another.
Most things seem to be better documented in linux than windows, or maybe the documentation is just of a higher (i.e. more technical) nature.
I prefer docs which say "to do 'foo', type 'bar baz wibble'. Windows docs are generally "see spot run. if spot doesn't run, phone microsoft".
dave
Penguins falling over was debunked by the AFU crowd. Follow the link for more details. dave
Dr. Who's dog K-9 is faster than two pieces of overcooked celery?
no, in my experience, most people who call themselves christians want to shove their religion down my throat.
but i know lots of priests (being an irish ex-catholic) and most of *them* are good people. i would say that people who think they are christians probably aren't but those who actually are christians are decent, good people.
hey, i just posted the url to the second reality demo.
i'm not responsible for it's content
:)
no worries,
dave
> "Here's us beating the living bejeezus out of .. at what point does it break"
:)
> the machine
so linux runs out of bejeezus before NT? well, somebody put more bejeezus into linux then, chop chop!
geez, this is obvious!
dave
second reality demo:/ 0-9/2ndreal.zip
http://ftp.hornet.org/pub/demos/demos/1993
dave
I don't think it's illegal to post someone's mail unless they have *specifically* noted that the message is copyright. While it is usually seen as a breach of netiquette to do so, the 'flaming of wretches' is also a breach of netiquette in itself.
Quite frankly, if someone sent mail like that to me, I'd almost feel obliged to make a special page for them on my website to show the world their communication skills.
Just how many people, on receipt of email like this, will say: "Gosh! I do suck after all! And yes, that *is* true about my mother! (hey, maybe *I* should try multiple exclamation points too!! Goodness, what a rUsH!!!) My word, I must write back and ask this gentleman where I can get one of these 'life' things he recommends."
dAvE "iSn'T tHiS sTuDlYcApS tHiNg CoNdUcIvE tO cLeArEr CoMmUnIcAtIoN?!?1!" o
Windows 3.0 sucked dinosaur eggs through the syphilitic pores of a dead badger.
ISTR 3.1 being a vast improvement.
dave "I've been trying to use that phrase for ages" o
if you press down on the mouse wheel, it acts as the middle button. at least it does for me and my mouse type is IMPS/2. i haven't figured out how to get the wheel working, though, which is a shame as i like to read /. slumped bonelessly with one paw outstretched to the mouse. anyone have any success with implementing mwheelup and mwheeldn?
(i was going to make some comment about one handed web browsing, but felt that some people would take it the wrong way...)
dave "it's a *beer* in the other hand!" o
(no, not *that* daveo)
This is off topic, I know, but how do people feel about a posting ban on all first posters? i.e. ban that ip address for a fixed period.
dave (you can find an email address on my webpage)
> Well duh... when was the last time you defragged
> your brain?
every night. it's called dreaming.
dave
Windows 1.0 and 2.x were the runtime environments which came with early versions of Excel, IIRC.
Windows 3.0 was pretty bad and very flaky, but compared to naked dos, not bad.
Personally, i find the idea of date stamping a product not completely nuts. i mean, if you know that a box is running win95, but office 2000, then you can figure that the OS may need updating.
dave
nope, GMT is not affected by daylight savings time.
The UK (and Ireland) uses GMT in the Winter and BST (British Summer Time) in the summer (well, duh!).
BST is GMt+0100
dave
> "Go find interesting things and tell us about
> them".
i refer the right honourable gentleman to the following quote from the "Real Programmers don't use Pascal":
Some of the most awesome real programmers of all work at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California. Many of them know the entire operating system of the Pioneer and Voyager spacecraft by heart. With a combination of large ground-based FORTRAN programs and small spacecraft-based assembly language programs, they are able to do incredible feats of navigation and improvisation - hitting ten-kilometer wide windows at Saturn platforms, radios, and batteries. Allegedly, one real programmer managed to tuck a pattern-matching program into a few hundred bytes of unused memory in a Voyager spacecraft that searched for, located, and photographed a new moon of Jupiter.
> 5 points for 3 days is too much for most
> people...they're just trigger happy
from what i see, the moderation work pretty much ok, although there is a *slight* tendency to prefer linus positive comments.
certainly, remarks which beg to be moderated down tend to be ignored, which, IMHO, is good.
btw, i've tagged this post as [M]eta in accordance with the alt.fan.pratchett guidelines, which may bb becoming relevant to the continuining debates on moderation here.
i'm assuming that all posters here don't need to be told how to find out how to search a newgroup for faq's. anyone who doesn't know can reread the new user faqs in the appropriate place.
dave (RTF!@#$%$^&M goddamnit!)
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> Tom posted utter bullshit on his website, which
> I might add is sponsored by the company whose
> graphics card won all of the NON WORKING
> TIMEDEMO score comparisons. That DEMANDS a
> reply.
Tom allegedly based his benchmarks on the illegal hardware test which was leaked.
kinda stoopid, really.
> Hopefully one of these days
.uk purely becaus ei happen to be irish. the racism acts don;t apply to irish people...
> somebody will go through the trouble of dragging
> those bastards into Euro-court and getting
> them invalidated under the European Declaration
> of Human Rights (which is the REAL British
> constitution).
agreed
british law needs to be dragged into compliance with eurpean law. as an example: i can be held without trial indefinitly in
nope, it's *whiskey*.
Us Irish gave it to you scots as compensation for giving you the bagpipes. Pity you never saw the joke...
Lawrence Godfrey wrote:
> To show you that we are superior race.
> Read all my articles. Believe me when I said this,
> In my experience with Thai women, they are no less than animals.
> The women are there to please us and obey our command.
> Money! Yes, you can grab children off the street, rip off their clothes
> and fuck them on the street as easy as 1-2-3.
>
> Oh! we are the White God to them. Again, Odzer book is wonderful.
> Thai women are slaves to the world.
> They offer great sex. Blow JOBS!!! SUCK MY DICKS AND YOURS!
having just read the article in question as poted above, i have to say that i have no respect for the person who would say these things. he obviously has very little experience of thai people (who are probably the friendliest people in the world) and has been on some kind of sex tour to SE asia, where he was exposed to the *really* seamy side of Bangkok.
So.
a: Mr Godfrey is a Sex Tourist and possibly a Paedophile;
b: he dislikes this being made public knowledge
c: he is willing to clarify uk law in such a way as to completely restrict the ability of uk people to post or publish on the web anything which may be considered defamatory by *anyone*. i.e. if i don't like "the phantom menace", mr. lucas can sue me!
dave, glad he's not in the uk anymore.
> Too bad ISP's can be run without an ethics
> board. These people control content by what
> authority?
This is *exactly* the point. ISPs *do* *not* control content. they are common carriers and not responsible for the demented gibberings of their users.
If you insist that ISPs have responsibility for the content of their sites then you can kiss good bye to your own site, unless your ISP have approved it for content.
In fact the way this thread seems to be going, it's the most oppressive regime possible which will control what you can post.
Remember, the penalty for spam/"unlawful use of internet" in China is either imprisonment or a bullet in the brain.
dave, in china and locking the door
>...but it sounds like they (Demon) are being
> reasonable about it until they're lawyers can
> draw up a sensible policy.
exactly.
the uk needs some kind of 'common carrier' law, otherwise any idiot with a grudge could shut down most of the isp's for slander/liber/words they never heard in the bible.
think about it: if demon are liable for something which appeared in their newsfeed, what's to stop every kook of the month worldwide for suing for defamation? they must be liable for all the porn in their (very uncensored) newsfeed. they must be liable for any negative comments on their own websites, and by the extension of an ignorant court, all websites worldwide.
would *you* like to be held responsible for www.godhatesfags.com? or any other gibbering site?
dave, pissed off in wanchai.
> A static IP address plus fax-to-email and batch
> FTP is not worth an extra five quid a month
> (although it is Most Handy, I admit).
no, you pay your ten quid a month for your own domain name, all the email addresses you need, a static ip, an almost completely uncensored newsfeed, 15Mb web space, smtp delivery of mail, AND pop3 mail, support.
mind you, you're also paying for turnpike, but you're not obliged to use that.
me, i think demon is so worth hanging on to, i keep it even though i don't live in the uk anymore.
dave