Problem 1: What is it good for? Problem 3: What does Plan 9 offer that would make me, or you, want to spend time installing and learning it? These seem to be the biggest "issues" you propose, which you fully address in your other problem: Problem 2: It is a research tool, and may never be more than that.
Many people seem to forget that there are many many many OSs out there that aren't flavors of *nix or Windows which are used for research purposes. There are quite a few which would make great multi-purpose systems if given the proper attention (Nemesis comes to mind) but never become as such because their features are integrated into other systems. But the need for development into other types of kernel structures, memory management, et al, is what keeps the OS world alive.
Contrary to popular belief, Linux can't do everything.
My curiculum called for many hours in the physical computer lab as opposed to coding at home, so my personal computer didn't matter as much.
My PDA came in very handy. Remembering meetings and due dates, plus that handly little alarm...all this for under $150. A very useful tool for those of use whose memory is shot to hell.
That's probably because the majority of CS departments out there are not progressing with the technology or current research, while the LA students are required to look at this stuff with a critical eye.
In my experience, as a recent grad, the CS department required us to not become innovative or even forward thinking in our coding techniques. I do believe more was learned about abstract methods and thoughts through my LA&S courses.
Plus, all those extra english class sure do help in making wordy documentation to make the instructors happy.
I'm currently running a 800mhz Mini-ITX as my network router and media player. Everything runs great on it so far too.
I chose to go the route of the Mini for is ability to fit into small spaces. Since our network is centralized around the television, I needed a system that would easily fit into our entertainment center. Mount the Mini into a gutted DVD player and viola!
I go to NIU now and it's still heavy on the mainframe...actually, they're still running the same donated machine from 1975 (?) And I'm guessing many of your favorite instructors are still there too (Hutchins, Rannie, Zerwekh, Janota)
They're just now starting to move to a less mainframe core program, merging all cobol into 465, rewriting the intro classes and all sorts of other stuff.
But none of this starts until next fall, and that doesn't help me one bit!
Toys may spur intrest in more than just music, the idea that these are an acceptable substitute for proper instruction is laughable, but the output of the toys may be more than you are giving them credit for.
These toys can, and probably do, give children (and adults) a new way at looking at not only music but technology in general. Having an intrest in music is one thing, but having an intrest in ME, EE, CE is another.
At my university, they claim to have no problem with students sharing files, and have said that until they are served nothing will be done to stop it off of university pipes.
On the other hand, they are actively trying to stop P2P sharing under the guise of "bandwidth conservation" but AFAIK this is only being inforced in the communal (ITS) labs and not in the dorms (or even the dorm labs for that matter)
But our IT department has a hell of a lot more problems than just P2P and bandwidth, but they refuse to those of use who "work in the trenches"
Just found it today, via my gf, which is being showcased at the Softimage XSI Roadshow being the Matrox Parahelia which has a TRIPLE-HEAD OUTPUT....among other things
If only they could afford the $600 to benchmark it against all the other there, eh?
Gerard Ferrari does ceramic sculpture with other elements, but it still falls under the title of "ceramic" The works from the links would be of the same, the utilize the medium but not necessarily in it's entirity.
To be "art" (bag of worms in that definition) the work doesn't have to necessarily fulfill any criteria (other than someone deeming it "art" IMO)
To be construed as "tech-art" though, wouldn't it just have to involve some aspect of the technology and not necessarily encompass the entire realm of all that is tech?
For example, for something to be ceramic art, it would have to be comprised of a majorty ceramic material, even though it could also include wire, wood, etc.
I see a bunch of students using them nowadays and for the most part they could do the same with paper planners. Some students, myself included, use them for taking notes during class, especially those long, boring art history classes where I only have to write down names and styles.
I also found that a paper planner was too much of a hassle for me, bent pages, illegible handwriting, etc. The biggest drawback was it not having an alarm, with a memory which is all but shot, I need the alarm to remember basic functions (like class and work)
But as my theoretical OS instructor says, when you turn on your PDA you turn off your brain.
What about those who don't want to blow people out of the building? Those who want to use it as a tool for creation of music and not the destruction of eardrums.
I too think it will take off, no more of this outdated midi crap, especially when you realize that when putting it on a cd, it's going to be digitized anyway, why not just do it from the source?
I know it would help me...if only I wasn't poor...
My 50's National hollow body beats your strat.... such a sweet sounding thing....
Like the name implies, is this just a money making venture to futher research into utilizing the gyroscopes to create bigger and better transport dohickeys?
Is it just a segue?
Study everything! I am quite sick of CS now, and am loving art, after having successfully completed many classes in physics, geology, astronomy, psychology, philosophy and mathematics. Everything in all subjects applies to the other, I can take my programming background to any of the afformentioned to do work, and have a fairly good understanding of what is going on in the fields. Hell, I could probably teach geo courses if they'd let me!
With a school of ~20K the scenario is quite different compared to a school with ~5.5K. I've worked in both. The smaller school was much more prepared for technophobes by requiring a basic assesment test of PC skills, and courses for those who were sub-par. The larger schools don't offer such luxuries, neither of them have (both NIU and UK) It's a matter of cost in both arena's, the smaller school was able to accomodate this because the comp-sci professors were the ones providing the services for the intstructional classes, while the larger schools would have to hire additional faculty to provide this, increasing the cost with either choice (Win/*nix).
Second, the only full time mac admin on campus has his hands full because of the flaws within MacOS when dealing with a large scale network. Especially with OSX. His primary duties now are to fix software problems with integrating the Macs with the rest of campus. When having a split campus this proves difficult. True, schools who are strictly Mac based don't have this problem, but unless you require every student to purchase a Mac, you're screwed.
The problem is, the basics only get you so far before you need advanced help, especially when dealing with *nix systems. Windows brings most user problems down to the lowest common denominator, while functionally inferior for most higher end things, it does lend itself nicely to the masses.
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Problem 1: What is it good for?
Problem 3: What does Plan 9 offer that would make me, or you, want to spend time installing and learning it?
These seem to be the biggest "issues" you propose, which you fully address in your other problem: Problem 2: It is a research tool, and may never be more than that.
Many people seem to forget that there are many many many OSs out there that aren't flavors of *nix or Windows which are used for research purposes. There are quite a few which would make great multi-purpose systems if given the proper attention (Nemesis comes to mind) but never become as such because their features are integrated into other systems. But the need for development into other types of kernel structures, memory management, et al, is what keeps the OS world alive.
Contrary to popular belief, Linux can't do everything.
Give it back to the public for them to use as they see fit.
And that is exactly what he was proposing. I heard said report on NPR and the follow-up letters from readers yesterday afternoon.
What if this did happen though? My initial reactions were:
1) Great, more local programming - home grown shows and community concerns could be aired (severe lack of coverage in my town)
2) You mean I'd actually have to pay to watch The Simpsons?
My curiculum called for many hours in the physical computer lab as opposed to coding at home, so my personal computer didn't matter as much.
My PDA came in very handy. Remembering meetings and due dates, plus that handly little alarm...all this for under $150. A very useful tool for those of use whose memory is shot to hell.
I'm simulated.
Can I still be stimulated?
Exactly. If a distributor doesn't want a cinema to show the movie, they don't have to let them, they do own it.
If the copyright owner has a dispute with it, as opposed to the distributor, would that make a difference?
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Josh
That's probably because the majority of CS departments out there are not progressing with the technology or current research, while the LA students are required to look at this stuff with a critical eye.
In my experience, as a recent grad, the CS department required us to not become innovative or even forward thinking in our coding techniques. I do believe more was learned about abstract methods and thoughts through my LA&S courses.
Plus, all those extra english class sure do help in making wordy documentation to make the instructors happy.
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Josh
Through my diet of 15 glass bottle Jolt's a day and a constant influx of various vaporous substances.
Worked for me until I quit the vaporous substances, then I gained 80 pounds.
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Josh
if all you use your computer for is web surfing and email, why even bother with Linux and everything else?/i?
General principle, of course.
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Josh
I'm currently running a 800mhz Mini-ITX as my network router and media player. Everything runs great on it so far too.
I chose to go the route of the Mini for is ability to fit into small spaces. Since our network is centralized around the television, I needed a system that would easily fit into our entertainment center. Mount the Mini into a gutted DVD player and viola!
Later
Josh
I go to NIU now and it's still heavy on the mainframe...actually, they're still running the same donated machine from 1975 (?) And I'm guessing many of your favorite instructors are still there too (Hutchins, Rannie, Zerwekh, Janota)
They're just now starting to move to a less mainframe core program, merging all cobol into 465, rewriting the intro classes and all sorts of other stuff.
But none of this starts until next fall, and that doesn't help me one bit!
Later
Josh
And it would probably cost less than the obscene amounts the cast makes as is.
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Josh
They publish 1 out of every 4 made!!!! I doubt microsoft can make it in the long run without them.
Quantity doesn't always mean quality.
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Josh
Toys may spur intrest in more than just music, the idea that these are an acceptable substitute for proper instruction is laughable, but the output of the toys may be more than you are giving them credit for.
These toys can, and probably do, give children (and adults) a new way at looking at not only music but technology in general. Having an intrest in music is one thing, but having an intrest in ME, EE, CE is another.
later
Josh
At my university, they claim to have no problem with students sharing files, and have said that until they are served nothing will be done to stop it off of university pipes.
On the other hand, they are actively trying to stop P2P sharing under the guise of "bandwidth conservation" but AFAIK this is only being inforced in the communal (ITS) labs and not in the dorms (or even the dorm labs for that matter)
But our IT department has a hell of a lot more problems than just P2P and bandwidth, but they refuse to those of use who "work in the trenches"
Later
Josh
Er...it would go to 2.
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Josh
Just found it today, via my gf, which is being showcased at the Softimage XSI Roadshow being the Matrox Parahelia which has a TRIPLE-HEAD OUTPUT....among other things
If only they could afford the $600 to benchmark it against all the other there, eh?
Later
Josh
Is the small board used, and that this really isn't all that remarkable.
Go to Mini-ITX.com and go see some other cool mini-board mods.
I'm working on mine!
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Josh
Gerard Ferrari does ceramic sculpture with other elements, but it still falls under the title of "ceramic" The works from the links would be of the same, the utilize the medium but not necessarily in it's entirity.
Josh
To be "art" (bag of worms in that definition) the work doesn't have to necessarily fulfill any criteria (other than someone deeming it "art" IMO)
To be construed as "tech-art" though, wouldn't it just have to involve some aspect of the technology and not necessarily encompass the entire realm of all that is tech?
For example, for something to be ceramic art, it would have to be comprised of a majorty ceramic material, even though it could also include wire, wood, etc.
Later
Josh
I see a bunch of students using them nowadays and for the most part they could do the same with paper planners. Some students, myself included, use them for taking notes during class, especially those long, boring art history classes where I only have to write down names and styles.
I also found that a paper planner was too much of a hassle for me, bent pages, illegible handwriting, etc. The biggest drawback was it not having an alarm, with a memory which is all but shot, I need the alarm to remember basic functions (like class and work)
But as my theoretical OS instructor says, when you turn on your PDA you turn off your brain.
What about those who don't want to blow people out of the building? Those who want to use it as a tool for creation of music and not the destruction of eardrums.
"hardcore musician" != "actual musician"
later
Josh
I too think it will take off, no more of this outdated midi crap, especially when you realize that when putting it on a cd, it's going to be digitized anyway, why not just do it from the source?
I know it would help me...if only I wasn't poor...
My 50's National hollow body beats your strat.... such a sweet sounding thing....
Later
Josh
Like the name implies, is this just a money making venture to futher research into utilizing the gyroscopes to create bigger and better transport dohickeys?
Is it just a segue?
Later
Josh
Study everything! I am quite sick of CS now, and am loving art, after having successfully completed many classes in physics, geology, astronomy, psychology, philosophy and mathematics. Everything in all subjects applies to the other, I can take my programming background to any of the afformentioned to do work, and have a fairly good understanding of what is going on in the fields. Hell, I could probably teach geo courses if they'd let me!
But not business....business sucks.
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Josh
Comments:
With a school of ~20K the scenario is quite different compared to a school with ~5.5K. I've worked in both. The smaller school was much more prepared for technophobes by requiring a basic assesment test of PC skills, and courses for those who were sub-par. The larger schools don't offer such luxuries, neither of them have (both NIU and UK) It's a matter of cost in both arena's, the smaller school was able to accomodate this because the comp-sci professors were the ones providing the services for the intstructional classes, while the larger schools would have to hire additional faculty to provide this, increasing the cost with either choice (Win/*nix).
Second, the only full time mac admin on campus has his hands full because of the flaws within MacOS when dealing with a large scale network. Especially with OSX. His primary duties now are to fix software problems with integrating the Macs with the rest of campus. When having a split campus this proves difficult. True, schools who are strictly Mac based don't have this problem, but unless you require every student to purchase a Mac, you're screwed.
The problem is, the basics only get you so far before you need advanced help, especially when dealing with *nix systems. Windows brings most user problems down to the lowest common denominator, while functionally inferior for most higher end things, it does lend itself nicely to the masses.
Later
Josh