So, Intel includes digital rights management in their chips. And Microsoft includes it in the OS. What's the big deal? Where do you get most of your MP3s from, anyway? Your DIvX movies? Your pr0n? I'm sure you don't purchase it. Pirated stuff is always going to be DRM-free.
Don't worry about it. All DRM is defeatable, and it's MUCH better than the alternative (unrippable CDs, anyone?)
It's not like Macs running OS 9 are going to stop booting on January 1, 2003. The headline should be changed to reflect the fact Apple is simply (smartly!) dropping support for it.
Isn't the whole point of iSCSI that you leverage your existing investment in your network so that you're not duplicating your infrastructure? Not that some additional elements might not be added to rationalize or beef up a datacomm network to support iSCSI, but not a wholesale duplication.
Well, then, add an 8-port gigabit module to your 6500. If that's really all you want to do with iSCSI, it's easy enough to add to an existing network.
[Why would you want to boot off the SAN?]
Upgrade testing? I've seen high end SAN devices that can clone/mirror/copy LUNs on the fly. If I'm booting off the SAN, I can clone my boot volume and use the copy on a test box before doing upgrades, patches or for any other kind of testing far faster than trying to build a seperate self-booting box and hope it's identical to the production machine.
I can do all those things with my RS/6000 and Sun servers, using SMIT and LiveUpgrade, on the local disks. I can also clone all my machines using NIM and (the ever-shitty) JumpStart, which do all the post-install customization for me. These tools all already exist without the need for a major (SAN) hardware purchase.
For one thing, it's only as reliable as your network. If you have a network problem such as a down switch/hub etc, you lose your disks immediately.
If our Brocade switches go down at work, we lose our Hitachi fiber-channel SAN, too. We also lose our StorageTek 9960. But that's a separate, redundant network, and I'm sure a properly-designed iSCSI network would be separate and redundant as well.
Unlike SCSI and Fibre Channel, you can't boot from an iSCSI volume. This is because your operating system has to be loaded, and your TCP/IP stack initialized, before you can load the iSCSI driver.
Firstly: Why would you want to? Every one of our servers that are attached to the Brocade have their own pair of internal mirrored disks for booting. What's the point of doing it any other way? I guess, if you ever truly needed to boot from an iSCSI device, those issues will be addressed by OS vendors once there's enough uptake for iSCSI.
Most operating systems want to load their storage drivers before they load their networking drivers. Doing it the other way around challenges all sorts of assumptions made by various system software out there. Sounds trivial, but again, we've evaluated it, and the result ain't pretty.
See last point made above.
By putting block level storage on your LAN, you've increased the capacity requirements by several orders of magnitude. To get any reasonable performance you're going to need Gigabit Ethernet everywhere -- and if you're going to make that kind of investment, you might as well be doing Fibre Channel.
Gigabit Ethernet is still much cheaper than FC. I can see the market they're aiming for with iSCSI, can't you?
I actually did something similar with a 1 gig drive back in '96 or so, when 1 gig drives were something special. On the way home from MicroCenter in Cambridge, MA, I managed to drop the drive about 4 feet onto pavement. It landed on a corner, and actually managed to power up (a Fujitsu drive, if you care), and worked, somewhat, though it had a ton of bad sectors.
It was a black drive. I colored over the dent with a black marker, and took it back to MicroCenter, saying merely, "This drive doesn't work." They gave me a new one.
"If the content owners look at the PC as this Wild West where the content and intellectual property is stolen, the content owners will try to get around the PC," Rosoff said. "That's something Microsoft wouldn't want to see happen."
This makes it sound very much like the primary motivation for creating this system is to make friends with the RIAA & MPAA. I think customer satisfaction is secondary to them.
I think you're wrong. There's already a power struggle going on for digital rights management, and, if the RIAA can't have their way through legislation or hardware compliance, do you honestly think they won't simply push the crippled-disc idea even further? There will come a day, probably very soon, where watermarked and encrypted (DVD-A) discs are the rule, not the exception.
Microsoft looks to be Covering Your Ass here, and appears to be merely paying lip service to the record industry. Why on earth would they deliberately alienate the consumer?
The guy probably spent *days* figuring this thing out, and, for what? Who will use this? What value does it provide? It's a cool hack, sure, but it serves no point. If you're going to hack something, at least make the end result worthwhile.
Some people love hacking their cars, but they don't use their gas tank to hold their washer fluid simply because it's possible to do so.
I guess, since you can't use your texture RAM in Linux anyway (unless you want to watch 3d screen savers), you might as well put all the RAM on that GeForce 4 to use somehow.
Because I'm not a lazy slob like you who just accepts his crappy situation and won't do anything to change it.
Precisely what crappy situation are you referring to? If the United States isn't the most technologically advanced country at the moment, who is?
People like you seem to forget about the 300 years of technical innovation that has sprung and continues to pour from this country simply because you can't download your bukkake JPEGs at 50KB/second. Every single slashdot story about a country that does one thing better than we do turns into a "boy, don't we suck" bitchfest. This same retardedness rears its stupid head whenever a court case is decided in favor of a corporate plaintiff or defendant, or when a bill is introduced in Congress that might limit slashbots' access to stolen MP3s and DivX movies.
The problem with slashdot bitchfests is that they accomplish approximately fuck-all and just serve to make slashbots look even more like the whiny, weak-willed little twits most people think "geeks" are.
So I have to ask, why do you hate America so much? Why don't you want to make it a better country to live in? Why are you such a quitter?
You're not part of the solution when all you're doing is complaining.
Even at the shitty places I've worked, there have been at least two uplinks to major ISPs, with BGP running to enable redundancy and increase network efficiency.
I now have three questions for you:
1. How "large" is your "business park"?
2. How do you explain even insignificant outages to your tenants now?
3. Why don't your customers have their own uplinks?
That you're even in this situation scares me. Good luck finding a way out.
How many of you wolf-crying 'tards have ever paid a dime for your MP3 encoders? Fraunhofer has been charging a license fee for them since the very beginning, but I don't ever remember having inserted a quarter into the coin slot on my PC when I ran LAME.
Do you honestly think you're gonna start having to pay for your copy of XMMS? Of mpg123? Do you think the copies you have now are gonna quit working in a few days?
Stop acting like such irrational little 12-year-olds and wait and see what happens, for once.
Unfortunately, this plea will fall on deaf ears: I'm sure the expletive-peppered email-writing barrage on Fraunhofer's evil headquarters has already begun in earnest.
So who's got a list of Ogg Vorbis or other Open Source alternatives to MP3 players?
Just about every slashbot who's responded to this story seems to be posting a list, as a matter of fact.
They're trying to kick their karmae from "Really Really Good" to "Great!", I guess.
I wonder if they realize that their copy of XMMS will not suddenly stop working, regardless of royalty charges. (Do you remember the day GIFs stopped displaying in Netscape?)
After all, stupid people don't deserve privacy right?
There's a lot of things stupid people don't deserve. Thankfully, they seem to take care of things by themselves, happily depriving themselves of money, privacy, freedom, and, sometimes, when we're lucky, their own lives. It is this natural cultural darwinism that makes this society so much fun to watch.
No scientist will ever propose a "survival of the most retarded" theory.
The "future criminals" list, according to the article, is being collected by an anti-drug squad.
Yet another example of how absolutely disgusting the "war on drugs" has become in this country. They're paying a group of policemen to spy on ordinary citizens because they might smoke pot some day, or try a handful of mushrooms.
When can we get these retards back on the street fighting actual crimes? (Actually, do we even need the services of these particular retards anymore?)
Does anyone actually support the war on drugs anymore? If so, what are they smoking?
The UNIX of today still shares a lot of the same codebase and even more of the same design philosophy with the UNIX of 30 years ago. There are plenty of de-facto UNIX standards and utilities that have been around for decades, most of which haven't been significantly enhanced since their creation. There's an awful lot that hasn't changed in 30 years. (Note, for all you automatic minus-one slashbot moderators: this does not mean UNIX is bad.)
The "New Ford Thunderbird", on the other hand, is just a car Ford happened to give the same name as an older, completely different vehicle.
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So, Intel includes digital rights management in their chips. And Microsoft includes it in the OS. What's the big deal? Where do you get most of your MP3s from, anyway? Your DIvX movies? Your pr0n? I'm sure you don't purchase it. Pirated stuff is always going to be DRM-free.
Don't worry about it. All DRM is defeatable, and it's MUCH better than the alternative (unrippable CDs, anyone?)
- A.P.
It's not like Macs running OS 9 are going to stop booting on January 1, 2003. The headline should be changed to reflect the fact Apple is simply (smartly!) dropping support for it.
- A.P.
If we wanted space, we'd just get additional drives.
Yes, because 100 little crappy 10 GB drives is certainly preferable to four 320 gig drives in RAID-5 configuration.
Slashbots never seem to consider the sheer lunacy of what they post.
- A.P.
Now the other two Zaurus users can sync to their desktops! The rest of us five will have to stop making fun of Bill and Andy now.
- A.P.
Isn't the whole point of iSCSI that you leverage your existing investment in your network so that you're not duplicating your infrastructure? Not that some additional elements might not be added to rationalize or beef up a datacomm network to support iSCSI, but not a wholesale duplication.
Well, then, add an 8-port gigabit module to your 6500. If that's really all you want to do with iSCSI, it's easy enough to add to an existing network.
[Why would you want to boot off the SAN?]
Upgrade testing? I've seen high end SAN devices that can clone/mirror/copy LUNs on the fly. If I'm booting off the SAN, I can clone my boot volume and use the copy on a test box before doing upgrades, patches or for any other kind of testing far faster than trying to build a seperate self-booting box and hope it's identical to the production machine.
I can do all those things with my RS/6000 and Sun servers, using SMIT and LiveUpgrade, on the local disks. I can also clone all my machines using NIM and (the ever-shitty) JumpStart, which do all the post-install customization for me. These tools all already exist without the need for a major (SAN) hardware purchase.
- A.P.
For one thing, it's only as reliable as your network. If you have a network problem such as a down switch/hub etc, you lose your disks immediately.
If our Brocade switches go down at work, we lose our Hitachi fiber-channel SAN, too. We also lose our StorageTek 9960. But that's a separate, redundant network, and I'm sure a properly-designed iSCSI network would be separate and redundant as well.
Unlike SCSI and Fibre Channel, you can't boot from an iSCSI volume. This is because your operating system has to be loaded, and your TCP/IP stack initialized, before you can load the iSCSI driver.
Firstly: Why would you want to? Every one of our servers that are attached to the Brocade have their own pair of internal mirrored disks for booting. What's the point of doing it any other way? I guess, if you ever truly needed to boot from an iSCSI device, those issues will be addressed by OS vendors once there's enough uptake for iSCSI.
Most operating systems want to load their storage drivers before they load their networking drivers. Doing it the other way around challenges all sorts of assumptions made by various system software out there. Sounds trivial, but again, we've evaluated it, and the result ain't pretty.
See last point made above.
By putting block level storage on your LAN, you've increased the capacity requirements by several orders of magnitude. To get any reasonable performance you're going to need Gigabit Ethernet everywhere -- and if you're going to make that kind of investment, you might as well be doing Fibre Channel.
Gigabit Ethernet is still much cheaper than FC. I can see the market they're aiming for with iSCSI, can't you?
- A.P.
I actually did something similar with a 1 gig drive back in '96 or so, when 1 gig drives were something special. On the way home from MicroCenter in Cambridge, MA, I managed to drop the drive about 4 feet onto pavement. It landed on a corner, and actually managed to power up (a Fujitsu drive, if you care), and worked, somewhat, though it had a ton of bad sectors.
It was a black drive. I colored over the dent with a black marker, and took it back to MicroCenter, saying merely, "This drive doesn't work." They gave me a new one.
I felt like such a bastard.
- A.P.
3jane:/store/shn 291891992 218132104 50408536 81% /store/shn
- A.P.
I can't wait for my $300 drive to die on the 366th day, and have to replace it! Way to go, Maxtor!
- A.P.
This makes it sound very much like the primary motivation for creating this system is to make friends with the RIAA & MPAA. I think customer satisfaction is secondary to them.
I think you're wrong. There's already a power struggle going on for digital rights management, and, if the RIAA can't have their way through legislation or hardware compliance, do you honestly think they won't simply push the crippled-disc idea even further? There will come a day, probably very soon, where watermarked and encrypted (DVD-A) discs are the rule, not the exception.
Microsoft looks to be Covering Your Ass here, and appears to be merely paying lip service to the record industry. Why on earth would they deliberately alienate the consumer?
- A.P.
The guy probably spent *days* figuring this thing out, and, for what? Who will use this? What value does it provide? It's a cool hack, sure, but it serves no point. If you're going to hack something, at least make the end result worthwhile.
Some people love hacking their cars, but they don't use their gas tank to hold their washer fluid simply because it's possible to do so.
- A.P.
I guess, since you can't use your texture RAM in Linux anyway (unless you want to watch 3d screen savers), you might as well put all the RAM on that GeForce 4 to use somehow.
- A.P.
...usually just wait for Code Red or Nimda to take care of IE scripting for us... that gives us all the ActiveX we need!
- A.P.
Apple's bottom line depends on you! And the three people you may convince to not purchase Apple products as well!
- A.P.
Because I'm not a lazy slob like you who just accepts his crappy situation and won't do anything to change it.
Precisely what crappy situation are you referring to? If the United States isn't the most technologically advanced country at the moment, who is?
People like you seem to forget about the 300 years of technical innovation that has sprung and continues to pour from this country simply because you can't download your bukkake JPEGs at 50KB/second. Every single slashdot story about a country that does one thing better than we do turns into a "boy, don't we suck" bitchfest. This same retardedness rears its stupid head whenever a court case is decided in favor of a corporate plaintiff or defendant, or when a bill is introduced in Congress that might limit slashbots' access to stolen MP3s and DivX movies.
The problem with slashdot bitchfests is that they accomplish approximately fuck-all and just serve to make slashbots look even more like the whiny, weak-willed little twits most people think "geeks" are.
So I have to ask, why do you hate America so much? Why don't you want to make it a better country to live in? Why are you such a quitter?
You're not part of the solution when all you're doing is complaining.
- A.P.
Why is it that people always take the opportunity in their story writeups to badmouth the United States at every turn?
What the fuck is up with that? If you're so sick of the perceived lack of technology here, move to Korea or Japan, you fucking whiner.
- A.P.
Even at the shitty places I've worked, there have been at least two uplinks to major ISPs, with BGP running to enable redundancy and increase network efficiency.
I now have three questions for you:
1. How "large" is your "business park"?
2. How do you explain even insignificant outages to your tenants now?
3. Why don't your customers have their own uplinks?
That you're even in this situation scares me. Good luck finding a way out.
- A.P.
bad example.
That had mpore to do with politics and a pissy pope then it had to do with religeon.
Isn't that always the case?
- A.P.
Why is this story such a big deal??
How many of you wolf-crying 'tards have ever paid a dime for your MP3 encoders? Fraunhofer has been charging a license fee for them since the very beginning, but I don't ever remember having inserted a quarter into the coin slot on my PC when I ran LAME.
Do you honestly think you're gonna start having to pay for your copy of XMMS? Of mpg123? Do you think the copies you have now are gonna quit working in a few days?
Stop acting like such irrational little 12-year-olds and wait and see what happens, for once.
Unfortunately, this plea will fall on deaf ears: I'm sure the expletive-peppered email-writing barrage on Fraunhofer's evil headquarters has already begun in earnest.
- A.P.
So who's got a list of Ogg Vorbis or other Open Source alternatives to MP3 players?
Just about every slashbot who's responded to this story seems to be posting a list, as a matter of fact.
They're trying to kick their karmae from "Really Really Good" to "Great!", I guess.
I wonder if they realize that their copy of XMMS will not suddenly stop working, regardless of royalty charges. (Do you remember the day GIFs stopped displaying in Netscape?)
- A.P.
After all, stupid people don't deserve privacy right?
There's a lot of things stupid people don't deserve. Thankfully, they seem to take care of things by themselves, happily depriving themselves of money, privacy, freedom, and, sometimes, when we're lucky, their own lives. It is this natural cultural darwinism that makes this society so much fun to watch.
No scientist will ever propose a "survival of the most retarded" theory.
- A.P.
I will continue not caring as I use my SSH sessions with impunity.
- A.P.
But don't worry - when you grow up, you'll support the arrest of drug dealers too.
Hm, at what point in the "growing up" process is the stick implanted in your ass?
- A.P.
The "future criminals" list, according to the article, is being collected by an anti-drug squad.
Yet another example of how absolutely disgusting the "war on drugs" has become in this country. They're paying a group of policemen to spy on ordinary citizens because they might smoke pot some day, or try a handful of mushrooms.
When can we get these retards back on the street fighting actual crimes? (Actually, do we even need the services of these particular retards anymore?)
Does anyone actually support the war on drugs anymore? If so, what are they smoking?
- A.P.
- A.P.
...is that it's wrong.
The UNIX of today still shares a lot of the same codebase and even more of the same design philosophy with the UNIX of 30 years ago. There are plenty of de-facto UNIX standards and utilities that have been around for decades, most of which haven't been significantly enhanced since their creation. There's an awful lot that hasn't changed in 30 years. (Note, for all you automatic minus-one slashbot moderators: this does not mean UNIX is bad.)
The "New Ford Thunderbird", on the other hand, is just a car Ford happened to give the same name as an older, completely different vehicle.
- A.P.