[Quote]This is like the time I traced a network meltdown to a 4 port hub (not a switch, and unmanaged hub) that was plugged into (not a joke) a T-3 concentrator on one port, and and three subnets of around 200 computers each on the other 3 ports. Every single one of the outbound cables from the $15.00 hub terminated in a piece of networking infrastructure costing not less than $10,000 dollars.[/Quote]
LOL. Perhaps they ran out of funding after buying all of the rest of the hardware?:)
now, now. be nice.:) Although I've learned some C, C++, and Java, we were a ColdFusion shop when I came. We've since switched to VB.NET. We've talked about C#.NET, but haven't found a good reason to go to it as of yet. VB.NET does practically all that C#.NET does and has a quicker to market timeframe.
yeah, we're having lots of trouble finding VB.NET web software programmers in the great Sacramento area. I know the party line is Linux and Perl/PHP but if there happens to be someone out there that knows VB.NET and has a grounding in web software, we'd love to hire you. Check out http://www.bizflex.com/about/careers/
not sure if you're listening to this, but we're actually having a problem hiring Sacramento area programmers. If you know VB.NET and want to work for a web software company, apply over at http://www.bizflex.com/about/careers/. We're based in Auburn.
LOL. actually a programmer with a gf who got the job of IT dept at his company by default, I think. I just kind of ended up with it because I either showed interest or knowledge.
I don't fix computers as a business. I just don't want to spend more time working and then have to worry about taxes after that along with all the other things you need to have a legal business. Instead, what's worked well for me as a bachelor is dinner. I tell people invite me over for dinner and I will fix your computer. Now that I have a gf, they invite her too. In effect, I've doubled my rate.:)
I totally agree! I've been planning for some time to not see it opening weekend. Now if I can just convince my friends so they don't pressure me into seeing it. As some have pointed out, Lucas and Fox make the most money the first week. If we wait a week or two, it will hurt them financially and, more important, their ego as opening weekend won't be the blockbuster they want. If enough of us slashdotters actually boycotted, we could make a difference. Even better, if another movie opens that weekend, drive up the numbers by going to see that one opening weekend.
something to the effect of The philosophy of the schoolroom in one generation is the philosophy of the government in the next. This seems a good way for organizations to get laws changed in their favor.
See, right there, you've made a mythical assumption- that one needs capital to create a startup company. Money is mythical in and of itself- it has no real value besides that which the shared myth gives it.
Well, I agree. I work for bits of data that change numbers in my bank account so I can get this printed green stuff. Sometimes I just swipe a card and bits are transferred from my account to others. Still, most things have the value of the shared myth. Everyone needs food, water, and shelter. Those things can be bartered. Gold? Not worth anything other than it's shiny and people have a desire for it. Still, since so many believe in money, it's normally necessary to form a startup unless you can find vendors and employees who are willing to work for trade.
I'm not sure that's an accurate description of "most people". I for one am going to invent whether I'm paid or not. Even during the 26 months that I was not allowed to work for private industry or government I achieved the following:
Well, for me, I find that I like to spend my free time working with people and helping them out. This is just one of the reasons I work with a jr. high youth group. If I only had to put in 1 hour at my real job, I would have all that extra time to work with the jr. high as well as form other relationships that would be mutually beneficial.
If there is no incentive of profit, where is the motivation? Let's take an example of a startup company. They need capital to get started so they come to me to invest. They take off and I make make money. They tank and I lose money. They've done all the work either way, but I've assumed risk. Let's take another example of a business. They're spending one million dollars to do a process. They find they can spend half that if they hire someone for $100,000. That person gets $100,000 and the company saves money. Both gain. If companies had to give all of their earnings away, they wouldn't try so hard to make a profit. It is the profit incentive that drives people to work harder or invest. If I know that I will be paid the same whether I'm developing geothermal power 16 hours a day or cleaning up trash along the side of the road for 1 hour a day I would, like most people, take the easy road and do 1 hour a day of work. Instead, there are salaries attached to different job levels to encourage people to work hard to advance.
Well, here's the thing. Companies employ techies like us to save them money, otherwise they'd keep on doing the same thing. I think to ask for all the money you saved the company is asking too much. Asking for a piece is not. That piece is your salaray / contract amount. If you wanted more, that's what negotiations are for. Free market economy sets the prices though so you can't demand 1 million dollars for a simple perl script even if it does save the company 1 million dollars.
Yes, you're right, it will be a barebones living, at least when starting out, if you're trying to do things all on your own, but it's still a choice. I decided I like nice things like Air Conditioning, Electricity, close proximity to stores, etc. I also decided that I liked being able to actually buy things. As for getting paid what you're worth, that's based on a number of things and what you consider is worth pay. For example, I work for a small company and don't make what I'm worth in salary alone. The owners freely admit this, but there's not any money in a small startup company to pay large salaries. On the other hand, my schedule is pretty open, we have a fun atmosphere, and every once in a while we do fun things like going to see Shrek 2. I've decided that I'd rather get paid in the benefit of enjoying work than actual money. I've also had the opportunity to at least request a manger level job at some point. Presumably this would bring in added compensation but I'd be stuck using Microsoft Word instead of programming all day. I declined as I prefer to enjoy my job. Yes, the people on the top make the most money, but they also take the most risks. If you want to be on the top level invent something or invest in something that's starting up. You may make millions or you may lose it all.
I would say this depends highly on the country you're in and what you have access to. There are many work from home businesses for those that have the motivation and just need the tools. Those that have the skills can invent things to sell. Ultimately, if I wanted, I could have my own substance farm with some animals for meat/dairy, use solar and wind power, dig a well, have my own septic system, etc. and live all on my own. I could also invent something or use a trade to make the cash for my "food room jar" if I so desired. Instead, I choose to stay in an area where I can program and go to a grocery store to buy what I want to eat. If I was in a communist country such as China, I could understand where I would be forced, but in the USA I have the freedom to be what I want.
Nope, it was merely a generalization of many that are pro-commune. You appear to have a well thought out idea. Keep it small and keep the evil in check
The book of Acts in the Bible talks about the believers held everything in common. This is the earliest example I know of off the top of my head. Not saying there aren't earlier versions, just an example older than Marx that came to mind.
My issue with communes is that many are utopian societies based on the (flawed) idea that human beings are good by nature. The other extreme is being forced to be part of the commune which I also don't agree with. If people want to get together and share their things in a commune willingly, I say go for it. I'll watch skeptically from the side to see any problems that creep up.
where all the money was kept in a barrel by the door- you take what you need to buy and you don't worry about accounting
This works well, assuming everyone is honest. What happens when one lazy guy decides that he doesn't want to work for the commune to get his new whatever and is going to buy it outside of the commune with money from the food bucket?
I had a Volksbank account (popular bank at least in southwest Germany) and only think I needed for the ATM was my pin. I can't remember ever getting a TAN.
Of course, I believe that bank also ran OS/2 Warp so they may have been behind the times.
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[Quote]This is like the time I traced a network meltdown to a 4 port hub (not a switch, and unmanaged hub) that was plugged into (not a joke) a T-3 concentrator on one port, and and three subnets of around 200 computers each on the other 3 ports. Every single one of the outbound cables from the $15.00 hub terminated in a piece of networking infrastructure costing not less than $10,000 dollars.[/Quote]
:)
LOL. Perhaps they ran out of funding after buying all of the rest of the hardware?
we're pretty much always recruiting so definitely send them our way. :)
now, now. be nice. :) Although I've learned some C, C++, and Java, we were a ColdFusion shop when I came. We've since switched to VB.NET. We've talked about C#.NET, but haven't found a good reason to go to it as of yet. VB.NET does practically all that C#.NET does and has a quicker to market timeframe.
yeah, we're having lots of trouble finding VB.NET web software programmers in the great Sacramento area. I know the party line is Linux and Perl/PHP but if there happens to be someone out there that knows VB.NET and has a grounding in web software, we'd love to hire you. Check out http://www.bizflex.com/about/careers/
not sure if you're listening to this, but we're actually having a problem hiring Sacramento area programmers. If you know VB.NET and want to work for a web software company, apply over at http://www.bizflex.com/about/careers/. We're based in Auburn.
LOL. actually a programmer with a gf who got the job of IT dept at his company by default, I think. I just kind of ended up with it because I either showed interest or knowledge.
I don't fix computers as a business. I just don't want to spend more time working and then have to worry about taxes after that along with all the other things you need to have a legal business. Instead, what's worked well for me as a bachelor is dinner. I tell people invite me over for dinner and I will fix your computer. Now that I have a gf, they invite her too. In effect, I've doubled my rate. :)
I just logged in and have had six invites for a long time. Now I have 50. Did anyone else notice a steep increase or did I just get lucky this round?
It's a joke. It falls under the "obligitory Slashdot comment" everytime MS does something right.
do we like Microsoft now?
The link mentioned in the previous slashdot article no longer works. Compliments of the WayBackMachine
In Space... No One Can Hear You Scream
I totally agree! I've been planning for some time to not see it opening weekend. Now if I can just convince my friends so they don't pressure me into seeing it. As some have pointed out, Lucas and Fox make the most money the first week. If we wait a week or two, it will hurt them financially and, more important, their ego as opening weekend won't be the blockbuster they want. If enough of us slashdotters actually boycotted, we could make a difference. Even better, if another movie opens that weekend, drive up the numbers by going to see that one opening weekend.
Funny, all I see is "The operation timed out when attempting to contact learn.arc.nasa.gov"
something to the effect of The philosophy of the schoolroom in one generation is the philosophy of the government in the next. This seems a good way for organizations to get laws changed in their favor.
See, right there, you've made a mythical assumption- that one needs capital to create a startup company. Money is mythical in and of itself- it has no real value besides that which the shared myth gives it.
Well, I agree. I work for bits of data that change numbers in my bank account so I can get this printed green stuff. Sometimes I just swipe a card and bits are transferred from my account to others. Still, most things have the value of the shared myth. Everyone needs food, water, and shelter. Those things can be bartered. Gold? Not worth anything other than it's shiny and people have a desire for it. Still, since so many believe in money, it's normally necessary to form a startup unless you can find vendors and employees who are willing to work for trade.
I'm not sure that's an accurate description of "most people". I for one am going to invent whether I'm paid or not. Even during the 26 months that I was not allowed to work for private industry or government I achieved the following:
Well, for me, I find that I like to spend my free time working with people and helping them out. This is just one of the reasons I work with a jr. high youth group. If I only had to put in 1 hour at my real job, I would have all that extra time to work with the jr. high as well as form other relationships that would be mutually beneficial.
If there is no incentive of profit, where is the motivation? Let's take an example of a startup company. They need capital to get started so they come to me to invest. They take off and I make make money. They tank and I lose money. They've done all the work either way, but I've assumed risk. Let's take another example of a business. They're spending one million dollars to do a process. They find they can spend half that if they hire someone for $100,000. That person gets $100,000 and the company saves money. Both gain. If companies had to give all of their earnings away, they wouldn't try so hard to make a profit. It is the profit incentive that drives people to work harder or invest. If I know that I will be paid the same whether I'm developing geothermal power 16 hours a day or cleaning up trash along the side of the road for 1 hour a day I would, like most people, take the easy road and do 1 hour a day of work. Instead, there are salaries attached to different job levels to encourage people to work hard to advance.
Well, here's the thing. Companies employ techies like us to save them money, otherwise they'd keep on doing the same thing. I think to ask for all the money you saved the company is asking too much. Asking for a piece is not. That piece is your salaray / contract amount. If you wanted more, that's what negotiations are for. Free market economy sets the prices though so you can't demand 1 million dollars for a simple perl script even if it does save the company 1 million dollars.
Yes, you're right, it will be a barebones living, at least when starting out, if you're trying to do things all on your own, but it's still a choice. I decided I like nice things like Air Conditioning, Electricity, close proximity to stores, etc. I also decided that I liked being able to actually buy things. As for getting paid what you're worth, that's based on a number of things and what you consider is worth pay. For example, I work for a small company and don't make what I'm worth in salary alone. The owners freely admit this, but there's not any money in a small startup company to pay large salaries. On the other hand, my schedule is pretty open, we have a fun atmosphere, and every once in a while we do fun things like going to see Shrek 2. I've decided that I'd rather get paid in the benefit of enjoying work than actual money. I've also had the opportunity to at least request a manger level job at some point. Presumably this would bring in added compensation but I'd be stuck using Microsoft Word instead of programming all day. I declined as I prefer to enjoy my job. Yes, the people on the top make the most money, but they also take the most risks. If you want to be on the top level invent something or invest in something that's starting up. You may make millions or you may lose it all.
I would say this depends highly on the country you're in and what you have access to. There are many work from home businesses for those that have the motivation and just need the tools. Those that have the skills can invent things to sell. Ultimately, if I wanted, I could have my own substance farm with some animals for meat/dairy, use solar and wind power, dig a well, have my own septic system, etc. and live all on my own. I could also invent something or use a trade to make the cash for my "food room jar" if I so desired. Instead, I choose to stay in an area where I can program and go to a grocery store to buy what I want to eat. If I was in a communist country such as China, I could understand where I would be forced, but in the USA I have the freedom to be what I want.
Nope, it was merely a generalization of many that are pro-commune. You appear to have a well thought out idea. Keep it small and keep the evil in check
See my other response where I basically agree. My disagreement was that you were assuming the basic goodness of humankind.
The book of Acts in the Bible talks about the believers held everything in common. This is the earliest example I know of off the top of my head. Not saying there aren't earlier versions, just an example older than Marx that came to mind.
My issue with communes is that many are utopian societies based on the (flawed) idea that human beings are good by nature. The other extreme is being forced to be part of the commune which I also don't agree with. If people want to get together and share their things in a commune willingly, I say go for it. I'll watch skeptically from the side to see any problems that creep up.
where all the money was kept in a barrel by the door- you take what you need to buy and you don't worry about accounting
This works well, assuming everyone is honest. What happens when one lazy guy decides that he doesn't want to work for the commune to get his new whatever and is going to buy it outside of the commune with money from the food bucket?
I had a Volksbank account (popular bank at least in southwest Germany) and only think I needed for the ATM was my pin. I can't remember ever getting a TAN.
Of course, I believe that bank also ran OS/2 Warp so they may have been behind the times.