Yes, it is your trash but the notion of property and the rights and obligations you have towards it are being redefined.
There may very well arise the constellation where you "own" the trash and have to pay to get rid of it, but you are at the same time barred from making use of it.
Here's btw an example of how this already works today. Suppose you buy real estate that is zoned residential and apply for a building permit. But surprise, you don't get permission to build on the property instead you get notice from EPA that your property falls under diverse nature conservancy regulations and you are under penalty forbidden from building on that property or making any other use of it. You try to sell the property but can't find any buyers because the property is completely useless. On top of that you to add insult to injury you are charged property tax on it.
Or it can be even simpler than that. You buy the property, they want to build a shopping mall on it. They get to take it away from you and if you resist throw you in jail.
When property can be taken away at whim or certain uses of that property denied then we're not talking property rights here anyway, but rather property privileges.
I want one right away. However I see a problem looming here for for the private sector garbage and recycling industry. I don't know where you live but over here it costs plenty to have your garbage can emptied and they wont let you put into the can what you want either - plastic, cardboard and paper each go into a different color-coded bag and are collected according to schedule.
These Agenda21-inspired schemes would suffer tremendously if people reduced their trash by a 30-1 volume reduction _and_ even got power of it.
I suppose these devices will not be legal for civilian use where they conflict with trash and recycling industry.
Re your CDC recommendation, depending on who you call on, you will get what answer. Call the Whitehouse and ask who is behind 9-11.
This however is disturbing and knowing about Merck's vicious tendency towards ligitation few would dare to lie about this:
"Although these reports did not detail what happened to the individuals experiencing these syncopal episodes, other reports did. The 14-year-old DC girl mentioned earlier experienced a syncopal episode combined with amblyopia (poor vision in one eye), abnormal speech, vomiting, and headache. Also experiencing vision problems, a 17-year-old New York girl reported feeling dizzy and her vision went "black for a few seconds" and she turned pale and lips turned purple and she also had fever and chills. Similar to the DC girl, on July 18th immediately after being vaccinated, a 22-year-old Kentucky woman experienced slurred speech accompanied by pallor and shock. On August 29th, two hours after being vaccinated, a 15-year-old New York girl who had a history of asthma and was on four asthma medications experienced difficulty swallowing prompting a visit to the emergency room. On August 17th, 15 minutes after being vaccinated, a 14-year-old Pennsylvania girl passed out in the car on the way home."
I am what kind of guy? My daughter could suck the fiery balls of Jesus if she wanted to. Since you're calling me names, I suppose you're running low on arguments.
Jesus btw didn't drop by on his way to a blowjob to deliver the argument that Vaccines may spread the diseases they supposedly prevent.
With certain weakened pathogen vaccinations there is a huge risk of infecting third parties sometimes even a week after innoculation.
A 4,000 projected deaths at an age median of 50 do not merit putting the health of millions of young girls in any way at risk, especially in childhood. With reports of highly adverse reaction to the Merck "Gardasil" HPV cocktail out there, I don't think you would personally roll up your sleeve for this one yourself:
Syncopal Episodes and Seizures. One-quarter of all reports filed after GARDASIL vaccination were for neurologic adverse events including loss of consciousness, syncope, syncopal events and seizures. An additional five reports included symptoms of dizziness and feeling faint.
Although these reports did not detail what happened to the individuals experiencing these syncopal episodes, other reports did. The 14-year-old DC girl mentioned earlier experienced a syncopal episode combined with amblyopia (poor vision in one eye), abnormal speech, vomiting, and headache. Also experiencing vision problems, a 17-year-old New York girl reported feeling dizzy and her vision went "black for a few seconds" and she turned pale and lips turned purple and she also had fever and chills. Similar to the DC girl, on July 18th immediately after being vaccinated, a 22-year-old Kentucky woman experienced slurred speech accompanied by pallor and shock. On August 29th, two hours after being vaccinated, a 15-year-old New York girl who had a history of asthma and was on four asthma medications experienced difficulty swallowing prompting a visit to the emergency room. On August 17th, 15 minutes after being vaccinated, a 14-year-old Pennsylvania girl passed out in the car on the way home.
and these are the immediate results minutes after injection. Who knows what the long-term consequences will be?
--"You are wrong. Hospitals and HMO's lose money when costs are high, especially on things like cancer. $100,000 in revenues is a lot different from $100,000 in profits - nuclear medicine, oncologists, and surgeons are not cheap."
No I am sorry but you're not seeing the full picture here. Modern healthcare takes money out of one pocket and puts it in the other. Check into who owns what and you will find "healthcare" humming happily along while irradiating, operating and medicating.
--"However, your kvetching about the HPV vaccine (I see you're referring to a "sexually transmitted disease virus" instead of a "cancer virus" there) shows an ignorance of the concept of herd immunity [wikipedia.org]."
You're obviously confusing apples with oranges here trying to appear smart. HPV is _both_ transmitted by sexual intercourse as well as thought to be a virus that may be the cause of cancer at a latter date.
As far as your herd immunity is concerned, that is theory. Another theory to which I adhere is that vaccinations carry the diseases they supposedly prevent into the population.
People who are interested in that point of view can learn more about that here: http://www.thinktwice.com/ or just google for it.
-- "Holding unnecessary death or sterility over your child's head as a consequence of possible sexual activity - which is usually unplanned, and sometimes non-consensual - is monstrous."
There are about 10,000 cases of Human Pappiloma Virus (HPV) infection each year (pharma's numbers though) and they're non-lethal and out of those 10,000 only a very low percentage will have cervical cancer before they turn 50.
Contrast that to common teen/young adult fatalities like driving, substance abuse or teen suicide to name a few - which are usually unplanned - with hundreds of thousands of _deaths_ each year you've got admit you're scaremongering here. The only thing to really worry about during unplanned teen recreation after homework is teen pregnancy.
Nice idea with the rape angle you had there, but a real Spinmeister knows when he's overdoing it.
You will find that people are willing to take on and test DCA anytime over the known extreme damage done with radiation and chemo. I don't think those stricken with cancer right now are willing to forego DCA in this life in the hope the FDA approves it as a cure in the next, many will demand and procure the drug.
You might want to watch your UV exposure, sunburnt:-)
Before you let little girls get taken to the lab for an afternoon of fun experimentation, I wonder how _you_ would like to be forced to take a vaccination gamble like that? Do a little research on the subject first, will ya.
Many infected with AIDS prefer the virus than the slow death inflicted by what is at best a palliative drug but you're certainly right here.
I personally however doubt they would take the same approach on DCA and give someone a monopoly on DCA, as DCA saves lives. That however is not their concern.
Here's another one... take "TeenScreen" for an example, the Bush backed at school mental illness screening programs they've set up. Kids are asked to fill out a questionaire developed by pharma usually without parental knowledge or consent and if they check the "wrong" answers they're prescribed medication.
You know over the years I have noticed that people tend to write extra long missives when they've been hurt.
--"As for DCA itself, it hasn't gone through clinical trials, so there is no clinical proof that this will work - just a couple of people in a lab saying "Hey, this looks promising"."
It has already gone through clinical trials as a widely used medication to counter lactic acidosis. People will certainly use it
--"It's true that it's not worth a pharmaceutical company taking it through clinical trials, but it's not because there's a big conspiracy to keep their more profitable lines running."
So you say. Let's take a hard look at pharma then, shall we? Here are a couple of things at the top of my head regarding Pharma:
1. Merck and GlaxoSmithKline are right now lobbying for laws to _FORCE_ innoculation of girls in school from 6-11 mandatory with their vaccine against a sexually transmitted disease virus.
2. Bayer and others _KNOWINGLY_(!) sold batches of their hemophiliac "KOATE" that was laced with AIDS to populations in South America and Asia. People got sick. http://www.haemophilia-litigation.com/
3. Pharma has supplied tetanus vaccination _deliberately_ laced with hCG pregnancy hormones (which are insanely expensive) in order to prime the immune system against a hormone released at the start of the pregnancy - making it impossible for the woman to bring the child to term. http://www.thinktwice.com/birthcon.htm
All three high profile cases show the callous disregard for the health and well-being of people and a single-minded focus on profit - whatever the human cost.
The only real news I can find in here is not to try something what they did yourself, those two million dollars are two million dollars you most likely do not have. So looking at it this way I suppose that is a rather high price to pay for a couple of led-lighted pictures placed around town. I will even go as far as the city loved the excuse to be able to respond with a totally overblown and over the top
"HOMELAND SECURITY CODE RED ALL UNITS THIS IS NOT A DRILL COMMANDERS REPORT TO SQUAD VEHICLES IMMEDIATELY RAH! CODE RED! RAH! CODE RED RAH! RAH! RAAAAH!"
Other than that there is not a lot of news here. The City of Boston got to rub in some more "24"-Jack-Bauer-Homeland-Security-Panic and Turner pays them two million dollars, one million to go to a "goodwill" fund. As far as "Goodwill" is concerned, I'm sure that money will buy tasers and not soup.
Most [rich] people will probably just take DCA and not give a flying fuck what the FDA has to say about it. If I ever get cancer I know I will be taking DCA even if it is then made illegal to treat yourself with it. (Oh yes, they would make that illegal).
Yes. You are right on the money, there are no profits to be made on DCA, in fact it even harms industry profits. Think of all the chemotherapy, surgery and radiation therapy that doesn't get done because of it.
A cancer patient usually brings in more or less a cool $100,000 in profit, a breast cancer patient slightly less, a prostate cancer slightly more.
It would make more sense to petition the Russian Parole Board if they still have it. Microsoft for the moment has no expansion plans into humanitarianism.
Just for those of you who think I've now totally gone over board, "Free Speech Zones" exist. They are one of the new ways of dealing with crazed thought criminals who band together to hurl abuse at the state. On the more sober note they are fenced off areas usually far away from the event people want to protest where they can shout and chant what they want.
It only then follows that we have Free Software Zones on our computers sandboxed environments that wont really have a whole lot of access to hardware such as the sound card or will have its video output willfully and on purpose degraded. Vista already does this today.
On top of that Microsoft ever since XP was released Microsoft has embarked on a drive for a "trusted computing platform" starting with the project they initially codenamed "Palladium".
A corporation bent on taking away control over your computer through DRM and "trusted computing", hell bent on shutting out 3rd party competition, forcing your computer to phone home... is that a threat to internet freedom?
It is the day you need an approved software stack to connect to the net. Microsoft is planning for that day.
... another one of those gotta talk about Terror rah! rah! rah! articles.
Yes. This one is excruciatingly dumb and a no-brainer because there is nothing right now to stop people from "walking" with their mouse all over the globe and checking those super-secret installations out before they blur them.
In fact, I've been "personally" to Diego Island, the top-secret US-base smack in the Indian Ocean. If you want to "stake out the joint" get the exact coordinates from Wikipedia's article on DG. I've also been to Socorro Island of the coast of Mexico, an island on which the Mexican Navy operates a base. They were out on the docks drinking Tequila and smoking weed. At least that's what I think they were doing because you can't really see through the sombreros. Again you can get the coordinates from Wikipedia.
Nothing to see and hear here exact more of the same old mantra: Terrorstorm! Terrorstorm! Chemical Attack! Nuclear Fallout! Rah! Rah! Rah!
Since you have already staked your end around the rear end I will claim my monopoly on urination and to make sure people don't cheat with catheters I am going to cover those too. Want to pass water? Fine. I'll let you for a dollar which is a fair price considering you are polluting the environment with uric acid, phosphorous compounds, salts and metals.
On a more serious note, why don't we just short-circuit this entire preposterous system that special interest built, spare us the slow but steady slide into an all-out fascist regime and just get on with it. Bring your swastikas.
Slashdot already covered Dichloroacetate an easily synthesizable compound and FDA authorized drug that "restarts" the deactivated mitochondria in cancer cells which in turn "recognize" the cell as malfunctioning and trigger the cell destruction mechanism.
The only major drawback of DCA is of course that it is priced way too low for the occasion (people desperate for their lives) and is probably even easier to make than aspirin. Oh and it isn't patentable.
I did and I've heard the same thing repeated by people who have obviously too read Sitchin books. I find it appealing of sorts to follow his interpretation of the Babylonian creation tale (which is so much nicer btw than what you get in modern religious literature).
Too bad people don't want to talk with me about the politics behind this. With us being directed down a earth-centric path of the sustainable-development fragile earth GW paradigm I'm really not sure whether they would want to distract from that by telling us that there are other possibly habitable worlds out there. Kind of detracts from Gaia's glory, the way I see them see it.
yummyguitars Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 1 PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:59 am Post subject: The Sun Heating Up??
I was recently having a discussion about global warming with my diving coach and while he agrees that it exists and is a major problem, he denies that we have/had anything to do with it. According to him, the earth is heating up because the sun is heating up. I tried showing him scientific proof that greenhouse gas levels and global warming levels match almost perfectly, but he continued to deny it.
Does anyone have any data representing the sun's temperature trend vs. the earth's?
3 Cat
weneedrain Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 4 PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:31 am Post subject: The Sun Heating Up??
Nope but keep buggin him/her about it. it could work after a while.
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Yes, it is your trash but the notion of property and the rights
and obligations you have towards it are being redefined.
There may very well arise the constellation where you "own" the
trash and have to pay to get rid of it, but you are at the same
time barred from making use of it.
Here's btw an example of how this already works today. Suppose
you buy real estate that is zoned residential and apply for a
building permit. But surprise, you don't get permission to build
on the property instead you get notice from EPA that your property
falls under diverse nature conservancy regulations and you are
under penalty forbidden from building on that property or making any
other use of it. You try to sell the property but can't find any
buyers because the property is completely useless. On top of that you
to add insult to injury you are charged property tax on it.
Or it can be even simpler than that. You buy the property, they want
to build a shopping mall on it. They get to take it away from you and
if you resist throw you in jail.
Learn more about this here
http://propertyrights.org/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-ElrlwnMrA Lauren Canario Eminent Domain arrest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IxUQW1zcb4 Anti-ED protest in NJ
Endangered Property Rights http://www.jbs.org/node/1100
When property can be taken away at whim or certain uses of that property denied
then we're not talking property rights here anyway, but rather property
privileges.
I want one right away. However I see a problem looming here for
for the private sector garbage and recycling industry. I don't
know where you live but over here it costs plenty to have your
garbage can emptied and they wont let you put into the can what
you want either - plastic, cardboard and paper each go into a
different color-coded bag and are collected according to schedule.
These Agenda21-inspired schemes would suffer tremendously if people
reduced their trash by a 30-1 volume reduction _and_ even got
power of it.
I suppose these devices will not be legal for civilian use where
they conflict with trash and recycling industry.
I posted this re Merck's "Gardasil" HPV cocktail elsewhere in the thread from NVIC.
http://www.909shot.com/Diseases/HPV/HPVrpt.htm
Re your CDC recommendation, depending on who you call on, you will get what answer.
Call the Whitehouse and ask who is behind 9-11.
This however is disturbing and knowing about Merck's vicious tendency towards
ligitation few would dare to lie about this:
"Although these reports did not detail what happened to the individuals experiencing these syncopal episodes, other reports did. The 14-year-old DC girl mentioned earlier experienced a syncopal episode combined with amblyopia (poor vision in one eye), abnormal speech, vomiting, and headache. Also experiencing vision problems, a 17-year-old New York girl reported feeling dizzy and her vision went "black for a few seconds" and she turned pale and lips turned purple and she also had fever and chills. Similar to the DC girl, on July 18th immediately after being vaccinated, a 22-year-old Kentucky woman experienced slurred speech accompanied by pallor and shock. On August 29th, two hours after being vaccinated, a 15-year-old New York girl who had a history of asthma and was on four asthma medications experienced difficulty swallowing prompting a visit to the emergency room. On August 17th, 15 minutes after being vaccinated, a 14-year-old Pennsylvania girl passed out in the car on the way home."
I am what kind of guy? My daughter could suck the fiery balls of Jesus if she wanted to.
Since you're calling me names, I suppose you're running low on arguments.
Jesus btw didn't drop by on his way to a blowjob to deliver the argument that Vaccines
may spread the diseases they supposedly prevent.
With certain weakened pathogen vaccinations there is a huge risk of infecting third parties
sometimes even a week after innoculation.
You're hmming and hawing here but still...
A 4,000 projected deaths at an age median of 50 do not merit putting the
health of millions of young girls in any way at risk, especially
in childhood. With reports of highly adverse reaction to the Merck "Gardasil"
HPV cocktail out there, I don't think you would personally roll up your sleeve
for this one yourself:
http://www.909shot.com/Diseases/HPV/HPVrpt.htm
According to NVIC:
Reported Adverse Events
Syncopal Episodes and Seizures. One-quarter of all reports filed after GARDASIL vaccination were for neurologic adverse events including loss of consciousness, syncope, syncopal events and seizures. An additional five reports included symptoms of dizziness and feeling faint.
Although these reports did not detail what happened to the individuals experiencing these syncopal episodes, other reports did. The 14-year-old DC girl mentioned earlier experienced a syncopal episode combined with amblyopia (poor vision in one eye), abnormal speech, vomiting, and headache. Also experiencing vision problems, a 17-year-old New York girl reported feeling dizzy and her vision went "black for a few seconds" and she turned pale and lips turned purple and she also had fever and chills. Similar to the DC girl, on July 18th immediately after being vaccinated, a 22-year-old Kentucky woman experienced slurred speech accompanied by pallor and shock. On August 29th, two hours after being vaccinated, a 15-year-old New York girl who had a history of asthma and was on four asthma medications experienced difficulty swallowing prompting a visit to the emergency room. On August 17th, 15 minutes after being vaccinated, a 14-year-old Pennsylvania girl passed out in the car on the way home.
and these are the immediate results minutes after injection. Who knows what the long-term
consequences will be?
--"You are wrong. Hospitals and HMO's lose money when costs are high, especially on things like cancer. $100,000 in revenues is a lot different from $100,000 in profits - nuclear medicine, oncologists, and surgeons are not cheap."
No I am sorry but you're not seeing the full
picture here. Modern healthcare takes money out
of one pocket and puts it in the other. Check
into who owns what and you will find "healthcare"
humming happily along while irradiating,
operating and medicating.
--"However, your kvetching about the HPV vaccine (I see you're referring to a "sexually transmitted disease virus" instead of a "cancer virus" there) shows an ignorance of the concept of herd immunity [wikipedia.org]."
You're obviously confusing apples with oranges here trying to appear smart.
HPV is _both_ transmitted by sexual intercourse as well as thought to be a
virus that may be the cause of cancer at a latter date.
As far as your herd immunity is concerned, that is theory. Another theory
to which I adhere is that vaccinations carry the diseases they supposedly
prevent into the population.
People who are interested in that point of view can learn more about that
here: http://www.thinktwice.com/ or just google for it.
-- "Holding unnecessary death or sterility over your child's head as a consequence of possible sexual activity - which is usually unplanned, and sometimes non-consensual - is monstrous."
There are about 10,000 cases of Human Pappiloma Virus (HPV) infection
each year (pharma's numbers though) and they're non-lethal and out of
those 10,000 only a very low percentage will have cervical cancer
before they turn 50.
Contrast that to common teen/young adult fatalities like driving,
substance abuse or teen suicide to name a few - which are usually
unplanned - with hundreds of thousands of _deaths_ each year
you've got admit you're scaremongering here.
The only thing to really worry about during unplanned teen recreation
after homework is teen pregnancy.
Nice idea with the rape angle you had there, but a real Spinmeister
knows when he's overdoing it.
You will find that people are willing to take on and test DCA
anytime over the known extreme damage done with radiation and
chemo. I don't think those stricken with cancer right now
are willing to forego DCA in this life in the hope the FDA
approves it as a cure in the next, many will demand and
procure the drug.
You might want to watch your UV exposure, sunburnt :-)
Before you let little girls get taken to the lab
for an afternoon of fun experimentation,
I wonder how _you_ would like to be forced to
take a vaccination gamble like that? Do a little
research on the subject first, will ya.
Many infected with AIDS prefer the virus than the
slow death inflicted by what is at best a palliative
drug but you're certainly right here.
I personally however doubt they would take the same
approach on DCA and give someone a monopoly on DCA,
as DCA saves lives. That however is not their concern.
Here's another one... take "TeenScreen" for an example,
the Bush backed at school mental illness screening programs
they've set up. Kids are asked to fill out a questionaire
developed by pharma usually without parental knowledge or
consent and if they check the "wrong" answers they're
prescribed medication.
You know over the years I have noticed that people tend to
write extra long missives when they've been hurt.
--"As for DCA itself, it hasn't gone through clinical trials,
so there is no clinical proof that this will work - just a
couple of people in a lab saying "Hey, this looks promising"."
It has already gone through clinical trials as a widely used
medication to counter lactic acidosis. People will certainly use
it
--"It's true that it's not worth a pharmaceutical company taking it through clinical trials, but it's not because there's a big conspiracy to keep their more profitable lines running."
So you say. Let's take a hard look at pharma then, shall we?
Here are a couple of things at the top of my head regarding
Pharma:
1. Merck and GlaxoSmithKline are right now lobbying for laws to
_FORCE_ innoculation of girls in school from 6-11 mandatory with
their vaccine against a sexually transmitted disease virus.
2. Bayer and others _KNOWINGLY_(!) sold batches of their
hemophiliac "KOATE" that was laced with AIDS to populations in
South America and Asia. People got sick.
http://www.haemophilia-litigation.com/
3. Pharma has supplied tetanus vaccination _deliberately_ laced
with hCG pregnancy hormones (which are insanely expensive)
in order to prime the immune system against a hormone released
at the start of the pregnancy - making it impossible for the
woman to bring the child to term. http://www.thinktwice.com/birthcon.htm
All three high profile cases show the callous disregard for the
health and well-being of people and a single-minded focus on profit -
whatever the human cost.
The only real news I can find in here is not to try something
what they did yourself, those two million dollars are two million
dollars you most likely do not have. So looking at it this way
I suppose that is a rather high price to pay for a couple of
led-lighted pictures placed around town. I will even go as far as
the city loved the excuse to be able to respond with a totally
overblown and over the top
"HOMELAND SECURITY CODE RED ALL UNITS THIS IS NOT A DRILL COMMANDERS
REPORT TO SQUAD VEHICLES IMMEDIATELY RAH! CODE RED! RAH!
CODE RED RAH! RAH! RAAAAH!"
Other than that there is not a lot of news here. The City of Boston
got to rub in some more "24"-Jack-Bauer-Homeland-Security-Panic and
Turner pays them two million dollars, one million to go to a
"goodwill" fund. As far as "Goodwill" is concerned, I'm sure that
money will buy tasers and not soup.
Most [rich] people will probably just take DCA and not give a flying
fuck what the FDA has to say about it. If I ever get cancer I know
I will be taking DCA even if it is then made illegal to treat yourself
with it. (Oh yes, they would make that illegal).
Yes. You are right on the money, there are no profits to be made
on DCA, in fact it even harms industry profits. Think of all the
chemotherapy, surgery and radiation therapy that doesn't get done
because of it.
A cancer patient usually brings in more or less a cool $100,000 in
profit, a breast cancer patient slightly less, a prostate cancer
slightly more.
It would make more sense to petition the Russian Parole Board if they still have it.
Microsoft for the moment has no expansion plans into humanitarianism.
Just for those of you who think I've now totally gone over board,
... is that a threat to internet freedom?
"Free Speech Zones" exist. They are one of the new ways of dealing
with crazed thought criminals who band together to hurl abuse at
the state. On the more sober note they are fenced off areas usually
far away from the event people want to protest where they can shout
and chant what they want.
It only then follows that we have Free Software Zones on our computers
sandboxed environments that wont really have a whole lot of access to
hardware such as the sound card or will have its video output willfully
and on purpose degraded. Vista already does this today.
On top of that Microsoft ever since XP was released Microsoft has embarked
on a drive for a "trusted computing platform" starting with the project
they initially codenamed "Palladium".
A corporation bent on taking away control over your computer through DRM
and "trusted computing", hell bent on shutting out 3rd party competition,
forcing your computer to phone home
It is the day you need an approved software stack to connect to the net.
Microsoft is planning for that day.
... he tried to solve it through the postal system.
... another one of those gotta talk about Terror rah! rah! rah! articles.
Yes. This one is excruciatingly dumb and a no-brainer because there is nothing
right now to stop people from "walking" with their mouse all over the globe
and checking those super-secret installations out before they blur them.
In fact, I've been "personally" to Diego Island, the top-secret US-base smack in
the Indian Ocean. If you want to "stake out the joint" get the exact coordinates
from Wikipedia's article on DG. I've also been to Socorro Island of the coast of
Mexico, an island on which the Mexican Navy operates a base. They were out on the
docks drinking Tequila and smoking weed. At least that's what I think they were
doing because you can't really see through the sombreros. Again you can get the
coordinates from Wikipedia.
Nothing to see and hear here exact more of the same old mantra: Terrorstorm!
Terrorstorm! Chemical Attack! Nuclear Fallout! Rah! Rah! Rah!
Since you have already staked your end around the rear end I will
claim my monopoly on urination and to make sure people don't cheat
with catheters I am going to cover those too. Want to pass water?
Fine. I'll let you for a dollar which is a fair price considering
you are polluting the environment with uric acid, phosphorous
compounds, salts and metals.
On a more serious note, why don't we just short-circuit this entire
preposterous system that special interest built, spare us the slow
but steady slide into an all-out fascist regime and just get on
with it. Bring your swastikas.
when they're nailing him to a cross. Unless he really gets hurt bad this is nothing
to get excited about.
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/1 7/1913210
Slashdot already covered Dichloroacetate an easily synthesizable
compound and FDA authorized drug that "restarts" the deactivated mitochondria in cancer cells which in turn "recognize" the cell as malfunctioning and trigger the cell destruction mechanism.
The only major drawback of DCA is of course that it is priced way too low for the occasion (people desperate for their lives) and is probably even easier to make than aspirin. Oh and it isn't patentable.
I am disgusted as you are.
Inquiring minds want to know.
I did and I've heard the same thing repeated by people
who have obviously too read Sitchin books. I find it
appealing of sorts to follow his interpretation of
the Babylonian creation tale (which is so much nicer btw
than what you get in modern religious literature).
http://faculty.gvsu.edu/websterm/Enuma_Elish.html
Too bad people don't want to talk with me about the politics
behind this. With us being directed down a earth-centric
path of the sustainable-development fragile earth GW paradigm
I'm really not sure whether they would want to distract
from that by telling us that there are other possibly
habitable worlds out there. Kind of detracts from Gaia's glory,
the way I see them see it.
http://members.greenpeace.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php ?p=2549&sid=534d45a1ba800922e2ef73dc5382fd8a
yummyguitars Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 1
PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:59 am
Post subject: The Sun Heating Up??
I was recently having a discussion about global warming with my diving coach and while he agrees
that it exists and is a major problem, he denies that we have/had anything to do with it. According
to him, the earth is heating up because the sun is heating up. I tried showing him scientific proof
that greenhouse gas levels and global warming levels match almost perfectly, but he continued to deny it.
Does anyone have any data representing the sun's temperature trend vs. the earth's?
3 Cat
weneedrain Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 4
PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:31 am Post subject: The Sun Heating Up??
Nope but keep buggin him/her about it. it could work after a while.