same goes with the typical e-commerce vendor, who if misses a day of availability needs someone to either sue, or to have fix it.
That comment is a little inaccurate. When was the last time that a software company got sued for downtime?? I can't think of one instance. Seems to me that most corps and govs that run IIS do so for two reasons:
1. Slick marketing
2. The old "no one ever got fired for buying MS argument.
You could always check sourceforge, they always have listings for tons of projects that need testers, coders, documentation folks, etc. Good way to get your "hands dirty" and help out the community.
These same types of arguments have been used to attempt to sue gun manufacturers, auto manufacturers, and anyone else that makes a product an idiot can use to damage somebody elses revenue/property/life, etc, etc, etc. These companies shouldn't be held liable unless their product has NO legitimate use (which these obviously do).
First off, with the target platform being mobile systems (ie cellphones, and other devices that run on a 3G network), linux is kind of out of the equation. Second off, just because it is proprietary doesn't make it no good for linux. Oracle is proprietary, yet it is very good for linux server adoption. And third, it doesn't have to co-exist w/mp3 because they are different tools for different jobs. By the way, minidiscs still have quite a cult following, especially with the newer players that are barely bigger than the media that they play.
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I agree 100% on the.org issue. However, the bar analogy is a little off. A commercial site in a.org domain doesn't affect my day to day life. Nor does having a commercial.org lessen the value of other.orgs. I personally would prefer to see these TLDs enforced for the simplicity that goes along with good organization. If you type.org, it should be an organization, not a corporation. However, what happens when a small, hobby site (slashdot), builds up tens of thousands of loyal readers, and becomes a commercial venture? By switching to slashdot.com, they may lose some brand recognition. Sure, you could simply redirect, but most people would still call it slashdot.org, they would still type slashdot.org, and the fact that it simply redirect to a.com would be irrelevant. I don't claim to have any answers, but these are sticky issues that go along with stricter enforcement
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That still fails to address the issue. Slashdot needs to make MONEY in order to survive. This isn't done by redirecting what little revenue they have to someone who wrote a 1 page book review in their spare time. In the current economic climate, a site such as this has to find ANY way to scrape up a little cash.
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oops, make that revenue-costs=profit. damn, I get hot-headed sometimes.
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Shit, I get so sick of all you people whining that slashdot has some commercial ties. So what if there is a link to a store where you can buy the book that was just reviewed, be it good or bad. That is called BUSINESS. You know, costs - revenue = profit?? Well, slashdot costs, and you have to build revenue or there is no profit, and hence, no slashdot. Quit yer bitchin'
let me get this straight, I pay 9.99 a month to get (some) channels with ads, and all of that quality music the RIAA wants me to hear?? Wow, what a fucking deal. I think I'll pass, and spend the savings on an in-dash cd-mp3 player.
Hehe, they sat on your money too, eh. That almost got very hairy, and I haven't used paypal since. I didn't appreciate them setting back our purchase by that long.
Umm, well, first off, any decent RTOS has network capabilities, second off, it's not a matter of the connectivity being there in the OS, it's a matter of fact that most of these systems don't have the connectivity to other hardware. It's getting more prevalent every day, but the fact remains that there are much more stringent standards for embedded system reliability, and those standards require LOTS of testing, and that testing takes time. By conventional embedded OS standards, linux is the untrusted new contender. don't get me wrong, it's an awesome OS, and one that I use for my own hobby-embedded projects, as well as on my servers at work, and for my development needs, but it does have limitations, just like any other tool. As it's use gets more widespread, and more companies have put down the foundation of testing and retesting that has been done with other RTOS's and embedded OS's, it's adoption will speed up.
Part of the issue may be that embedded systems have pretty long development cycles, compared to typical software apps of similar size and complexity. If your PC application doesn't work, you simply issue a new revision with fixes. Embedded systems are much more difficult to upgrade. I'm not talking about PDA's here, I'm talking about your set top boxes, industrial systems, data collection, etc. These systems cannot be easily patched. As a result, embedded linux development efforts take much more time to certify than those using RTOS's that have been around for years. Also, it is true that linux doesn't have a native method for doing hard-real-time events, there are add-ons, and it isn't the fault of linux developers, such a thing simply isn't needed for desktop and server OS's, but for running an industrial robot, a 10ms delay can be disastrous.
Well, that's you. I for one would like a medium screen sized unit, (like the lengthwise clamshell that nokia showed off), in color, with all the connectivity I could possibly ask for. And as for carrying around two devices, why bother when one (good) integrated unit can do the job with fewer pieces of crap to tote around with me. On top of that, iMode phones mostly have a java runtime, J2ME, that will allow me to write my own network apps to access whatever the hell I want, given the time to code it. Did you miss the fact that these units are wildly popular in places that have the infrastructure to support them?? Our networks suck and our providers don't give a damn that it sucks. And they aren't going to do anything about it until (IF) 3G rolls out. And given the problems NTT DoCoMo (arguably the worlds most competent provider) has had with it, I suspect it'll be at least 2 or 3 years before it hits here. I'm just sick and tired of all the cool toys going overseas because we are stuck with an inferior system....
It's sad to see something like this just coming out in the US. This and the VisorPhone, and the Kyocera palm phone are really the only PDA/Phone combos available here. I had the Kyocera, and it was terrible. This just pales in comparison to iMode, even without the buggy 3G enhancements they just rolled out. When will we get some decent wireless data service?? Japan has color, video, IM, web, games, and just plain awesome looking phones, and we get a cell/palm hybrid. yeah......
true enough. Who are the other players?? I know all about Symantec, Mcafee, Trend, and Panda, but that's about it. and I don't even know if Panda is in business anymore.
Unless it works like the other outlook mail viruses, and simply sends an email, then deletes the evidence that it sent one. That should bypass a firewall just fine.
What are the odds that antivirus software could be updated to find this virus? It obviously couldn't be cross-platform either. And if the gov't somehow manages to pressure a/v companies into not including it in virus defs, what would happen if some malicious kiddie got hold of the code, and unleashed a much more destructive version, knowing full well that most machines were not protected? Who would be liable in that case?
Not to nitpick or anything, but why would somebody do something like that?, yeah, I know boredom, attention, etc. But would it really matter if it was crafted wrong or became mutilated later?? The museum didn't specify they had to be "naturally occuring" mutations.
I understand that this guy is working for free, But if you are not prepared to deal with users who need some help, why in the hell are you developing end-user software? I work as a developer, and idiotic questions make up about 20% of my average day. Read some of the email exchanges with openosx, and with users on sourceforge, and you may come away with the same impression I did, mainly that this dude has a real short fuse and nasty temper. Remember, he VOLUNTEERED to do this project, nobody was forcing it on him. If he doesn't like it, go start another project, or find a cushy commercial position (he's obviously talented enough to get paid some real money).
That's one slick looking unit. Much better than the I-paq. Has anyone had any experience porting KDE apps to a portable like this (one that uses QT-embedded I assume)? The article didn't mention a JVM (at least not that I saw), but that could be a big way to drive application development for PDA's in general. If you could write one simple little app in java, and have it run on PocketPC 2002 (Via the Geode JVM), on the Yopy, and on the new unit from sharp. That's really the only stumbling block I see to Linux PDA's doing great things is applications. Nice pretty user-friendly applications, and lots of them.
Does anyone else think that this might just be a little preemptive strike against x-box?? Maybe a chance to generate a little buzz with gamers, get some good reviews, and sway some buying decisions before microsoft unleashes their weapon? Gamecube now, or xbox later, I like the now option better, maybe they are banking on others thinking the same way.
The thing that really scares me about globalization is the homogenization that follows. Don't get me wrong, I'm not some extremist or religious nut. But every nation being different is what makes it so interesting. Once there are McDonalds on every corner, and the whole world shops at The Gap, this place will be so boring it will drive me mad. On the other hand, if you go too far protecting your national identity, you end up like the french, with their laws preventing social dilution at the expense of personal freedom, or like the Taliban, so scared that people will see western ways and abandon their twisted interpretation of religion that allows them to keep control. It really is a fine line.
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same goes with the typical e-commerce vendor, who if misses a day of availability needs someone to either sue, or to have fix it.
That comment is a little inaccurate. When was the last time that a software company got sued for downtime?? I can't think of one instance. Seems to me that most corps and govs that run IIS do so for two reasons:
1. Slick marketing
2. The old "no one ever got fired for buying MS argument.
You could always check sourceforge, they always have listings for tons of projects that need testers, coders, documentation folks, etc. Good way to get your "hands dirty" and help out the community.
These same types of arguments have been used to attempt to sue gun manufacturers, auto manufacturers, and anyone else that makes a product an idiot can use to damage somebody elses revenue/property/life, etc, etc, etc. These companies shouldn't be held liable unless their product has NO legitimate use (which these obviously do).
First off, with the target platform being mobile systems (ie cellphones, and other devices that run on a 3G network), linux is kind of out of the equation. Second off, just because it is proprietary doesn't make it no good for linux. Oracle is proprietary, yet it is very good for linux server adoption. And third, it doesn't have to co-exist w/mp3 because they are different tools for different jobs. By the way, minidiscs still have quite a cult following, especially with the newer players that are barely bigger than the media that they play.
I agree 100% on the .org issue. However, the bar analogy is a little off. A commercial site in a .org domain doesn't affect my day to day life. Nor does having a commercial .org lessen the value of other .orgs. I personally would prefer to see these TLDs enforced for the simplicity that goes along with good organization. If you type .org, it should be an organization, not a corporation. However, what happens when a small, hobby site (slashdot), builds up tens of thousands of loyal readers, and becomes a commercial venture? By switching to slashdot.com, they may lose some brand recognition. Sure, you could simply redirect, but most people would still call it slashdot.org, they would still type slashdot.org, and the fact that it simply redirect to a .com would be irrelevant. I don't claim to have any answers, but these are sticky issues that go along with stricter enforcement
That still fails to address the issue. Slashdot needs to make MONEY in order to survive. This isn't done by redirecting what little revenue they have to someone who wrote a 1 page book review in their spare time. In the current economic climate, a site such as this has to find ANY way to scrape up a little cash.
oops, make that revenue-costs=profit. damn, I get hot-headed sometimes.
Shit, I get so sick of all you people whining that slashdot has some commercial ties. So what if there is a link to a store where you can buy the book that was just reviewed, be it good or bad. That is called BUSINESS. You know, costs - revenue = profit?? Well, slashdot costs, and you have to build revenue or there is no profit, and hence, no slashdot. Quit yer bitchin'
And what was that reason?? They liked the borg too much to see them ridiculed like that?
let me get this straight, I pay 9.99 a month to get (some) channels with ads, and all of that quality music the RIAA wants me to hear?? Wow, what a fucking deal. I think I'll pass, and spend the savings on an in-dash cd-mp3 player.
Hehe, they sat on your money too, eh. That almost got very hairy, and I haven't used paypal since. I didn't appreciate them setting back our purchase by that long.
Umm, well, first off, any decent RTOS has network capabilities, second off, it's not a matter of the connectivity being there in the OS, it's a matter of fact that most of these systems don't have the connectivity to other hardware. It's getting more prevalent every day, but the fact remains that there are much more stringent standards for embedded system reliability, and those standards require LOTS of testing, and that testing takes time. By conventional embedded OS standards, linux is the untrusted new contender. don't get me wrong, it's an awesome OS, and one that I use for my own hobby-embedded projects, as well as on my servers at work, and for my development needs, but it does have limitations, just like any other tool. As it's use gets more widespread, and more companies have put down the foundation of testing and retesting that has been done with other RTOS's and embedded OS's, it's adoption will speed up.
Part of the issue may be that embedded systems have pretty long development cycles, compared to typical software apps of similar size and complexity. If your PC application doesn't work, you simply issue a new revision with fixes. Embedded systems are much more difficult to upgrade. I'm not talking about PDA's here, I'm talking about your set top boxes, industrial systems, data collection, etc. These systems cannot be easily patched. As a result, embedded linux development efforts take much more time to certify than those using RTOS's that have been around for years. Also, it is true that linux doesn't have a native method for doing hard-real-time events, there are add-ons, and it isn't the fault of linux developers, such a thing simply isn't needed for desktop and server OS's, but for running an industrial robot, a 10ms delay can be disastrous.
Well, that's you. I for one would like a medium screen sized unit, (like the lengthwise clamshell that nokia showed off), in color, with all the connectivity I could possibly ask for. And as for carrying around two devices, why bother when one (good) integrated unit can do the job with fewer pieces of crap to tote around with me. On top of that, iMode phones mostly have a java runtime, J2ME, that will allow me to write my own network apps to access whatever the hell I want, given the time to code it. Did you miss the fact that these units are wildly popular in places that have the infrastructure to support them?? Our networks suck and our providers don't give a damn that it sucks. And they aren't going to do anything about it until (IF) 3G rolls out. And given the problems NTT DoCoMo (arguably the worlds most competent provider) has had with it, I suspect it'll be at least 2 or 3 years before it hits here. I'm just sick and tired of all the cool toys going overseas because we are stuck with an inferior system....
It's sad to see something like this just coming out in the US. This and the VisorPhone, and the Kyocera palm phone are really the only PDA/Phone combos available here. I had the Kyocera, and it was terrible. This just pales in comparison to iMode, even without the buggy 3G enhancements they just rolled out. When will we get some decent wireless data service?? Japan has color, video, IM, web, games, and just plain awesome looking phones, and we get a cell/palm hybrid. yeah......
Actually, I think you mean L. Ron Hubbard, not Howard, but it's close enough. For more information, check www.xenu.net (operation clambake).
true enough. Who are the other players?? I know all about Symantec, Mcafee, Trend, and Panda, but that's about it. and I don't even know if Panda is in business anymore.
Unless it works like the other outlook mail viruses, and simply sends an email, then deletes the evidence that it sent one. That should bypass a firewall just fine.
What are the odds that antivirus software could be updated to find this virus? It obviously couldn't be cross-platform either. And if the gov't somehow manages to pressure a/v companies into not including it in virus defs, what would happen if some malicious kiddie got hold of the code, and unleashed a much more destructive version, knowing full well that most machines were not protected? Who would be liable in that case?
Not to nitpick or anything, but why would somebody do something like that?, yeah, I know boredom, attention, etc. But would it really matter if it was crafted wrong or became mutilated later?? The museum didn't specify they had to be "naturally occuring" mutations.
I understand that this guy is working for free, But if you are not prepared to deal with users who need some help, why in the hell are you developing end-user software? I work as a developer, and idiotic questions make up about 20% of my average day. Read some of the email exchanges with openosx, and with users on sourceforge, and you may come away with the same impression I did, mainly that this dude has a real short fuse and nasty temper. Remember, he VOLUNTEERED to do this project, nobody was forcing it on him. If he doesn't like it, go start another project, or find a cushy commercial position (he's obviously talented enough to get paid some real money).
Flamebait??? You fuckwad moderators, how the hell is that flamebait?? Fuckers.
That's one slick looking unit. Much better than the I-paq. Has anyone had any experience porting KDE apps to a portable like this (one that uses QT-embedded I assume)? The article didn't mention a JVM (at least not that I saw), but that could be a big way to drive application development for PDA's in general. If you could write one simple little app in java, and have it run on PocketPC 2002 (Via the Geode JVM), on the Yopy, and on the new unit from sharp. That's really the only stumbling block I see to Linux PDA's doing great things is applications. Nice pretty user-friendly applications, and lots of them.
Does anyone else think that this might just be a little preemptive strike against x-box?? Maybe a chance to generate a little buzz with gamers, get some good reviews, and sway some buying decisions before microsoft unleashes their weapon? Gamecube now, or xbox later, I like the now option better, maybe they are banking on others thinking the same way.
The thing that really scares me about globalization is the homogenization that follows. Don't get me wrong, I'm not some extremist or religious nut. But every nation being different is what makes it so interesting. Once there are McDonalds on every corner, and the whole world shops at The Gap, this place will be so boring it will drive me mad. On the other hand, if you go too far protecting your national identity, you end up like the french, with their laws preventing social dilution at the expense of personal freedom, or like the Taliban, so scared that people will see western ways and abandon their twisted interpretation of religion that allows them to keep control. It really is a fine line.