What about the HUGE installed base? Are you planning on ignoring that? If my product costs 100 bucks, and you have to buy a 1200$ mac, or take the training time to learn linux to run it, and my competitor has a similar app at a similar price on Windows, which one do you think a customer is gonna choose (assuming they already have wintel boxes)?
You can try to back up your statement with anecdotal evidence all you want, but that won't make you right.
If your product is viable it will sell just as well on Apple...or...*gasp* an open source platform.
Maybe you could explain how locking a product out of 90%+ of the desktop market and a sizeable chunk of the server market would make the product sell "just as well". Companies are in business to move product, and giving the finger to that much of the market would be corporate suicide. If Unix/Linux/Mac is your focus, great, but for companies that currently make software for MS platforms, your statement is simply not an option.
Actually, as people are so quick to point out on Slashdot (especially in relation to music sharing), they are not stealing. They are infringing his copyright. I know it is a truly minor, pedantic thing to gripe about, but it's accurate.
JPL engineers played Baha Men's "Who Let the Dogs Out" in the control room as they watched new images confirming that the Mars Exploration Rover Spirit successfully rolled off its lander platform early Thursday morning.
A bunch of sweaty scientists dancing around the lab to "who let the dogs out"? Was Steve Ballmer there?
Maybe it'd be hard at first, but I think you'd adapt pretty quick. And I don't think one would have to spell out W W W . whatever any more than I have to think open hand, move arm 10 degrees up, etc to get my beer off of the bar. It would become second nature, or maybe like little brain macros.
I already touch type. And pretty darn fast too. Just not fast enough to keep up with my brain. I guess the problem is more manifest during the early stages of a project, where I'm just cranking out the basic design. It's much less of a problem when debugging or adding functionality.
My biggest complaint about computing is that my brain->computer interface (hands to keyboard that is) is VERY low bandwidth and VERY high latency. And I know I can't be the only one that has this problem. Anybody that codes knows what I mean, you can visualize and solve the problem in your head much faster than you can get that solution into the computer.
Regardless of whether or not it backfires, it _does_ help interoperability, and that is a Good Thing no matter how you look at it. Almost nobody is exclusively Unix or MS, nor should they necessarily be.
The only bitch I will have is if this is like other Microsoft attempts at "interoperability" where they break shit. Think kerberos, java, etc.
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Those things make a shitty company, not a monopoly;-)
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No, they aren't. What about Sony? I can't afford any of their cool shit either;-)
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Eh, a war of monopolies! They've just found common grounds to fight on...
I do not think that word means what you think it means.
Seriously, how do you figure apple as a monopoly on anything?
True enough. They may just be using the file format. However, the mplayer team has found several other instances of strings matching line for line. Also, part of the comparison that uncovered mpsub was a list of subtitle formats. The list in the firmware was in the exact same order as the list in mplayer. It even included the same "unknown" entry in the same place. There are just too many matches to be coincidence. This needs further investigation.
Actually, the code in question (the subtitle code) is even easier than that to verify. At issue is MPSub, the subtitle format developed internally by mplayer coders. This format was developed by them for them, and until mplayer's release had never been "in the wild". KISS's players mention the MPSub format in their subtitling code. That makes it pretty darn clear to me.
I don't think you really know what you are talking about. The sole purpose of the interconnect is to shuttle data to the node, and then move the results back. A modern interconnect like Myrinet or Infiniband is adequate for a commodity cluster as long as you optimize the size of the dataset being sent to each node. I have personally seen the VA tech cluster, and each CPU is pegged almost 100% of the time, while the switched fabric that ties it all together still has some room to grow. Keep in mind that infiniband STARTS at 2.5Gb/s and scales up to 12X that. Hell, PCIx can't even keep up with top speed Infiniband.
Also, using the analogy of a cluster to a SMP machine, a bus to the CPU is EXACTLY what the interconnect is.
I don't think that is accurate. Yes the interconnect is VERY important, but the mesurement is the number of floating point operations per second that the machine can perform. This is purely a measurement of the raw processing power available. You can have the fastest interconnect in the world, but if your CPUs can't keep up it is all for nothing. Likewise, without the ability to feed those processors, the performance will suffer. To use the (flawed) analogy of a cluster to your desktop machine, think of InfiniBand as the bus to the individual processors (nodes).
I don't know about that. If I could work from home, I could get rid of one of my cars (no public transit where I live at all) and all the associated expense. That would easily make up for a 20% pay cut (between the payment, gas, insurance, maintenance, etc). I think it would also be VERY appealing to those of us with children and two working parents. Get to work from home and be there when the kids get back from school. It doesn't apply to everybody, but for some folks it may be an option.
Now if they tried to send me home at half pay, fuck em. I'll take the money and find a new damn job.
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What about the HUGE installed base? Are you planning on ignoring that? If my product costs 100 bucks, and you have to buy a 1200$ mac, or take the training time to learn linux to run it, and my competitor has a similar app at a similar price on Windows, which one do you think a customer is gonna choose (assuming they already have wintel boxes)?
You can try to back up your statement with anecdotal evidence all you want, but that won't make you right.
If your product is viable it will sell just as well on Apple...or...*gasp* an open source platform.
Maybe you could explain how locking a product out of 90%+ of the desktop market and a sizeable chunk of the server market would make the product sell "just as well". Companies are in business to move product, and giving the finger to that much of the market would be corporate suicide. If Unix/Linux/Mac is your focus, great, but for companies that currently make software for MS platforms, your statement is simply not an option.
Wow, a reasonable response on slashdot? Thank you.
Actually, as people are so quick to point out on Slashdot (especially in relation to music sharing), they are not stealing. They are infringing his copyright. I know it is a truly minor, pedantic thing to gripe about, but it's accurate.
Judge: Do you have any evidence?
Hutz (SCO Lawyer): We have plenty of hearsay and conjecture, those are KINDS of evidence.
JPL engineers played Baha Men's "Who Let the Dogs Out" in the control room as they watched new images confirming that the Mars Exploration Rover Spirit successfully rolled off its lander platform early Thursday morning.
A bunch of sweaty scientists dancing around the lab to "who let the dogs out"? Was Steve Ballmer there?
Maybe it'd be hard at first, but I think you'd adapt pretty quick. And I don't think one would have to spell out W W W . whatever any more than I have to think open hand, move arm 10 degrees up, etc to get my beer off of the bar. It would become second nature, or maybe like little brain macros.
I already touch type. And pretty darn fast too. Just not fast enough to keep up with my brain. I guess the problem is more manifest during the early stages of a project, where I'm just cranking out the basic design. It's much less of a problem when debugging or adding functionality.
My biggest complaint about computing is that my brain->computer interface (hands to keyboard that is) is VERY low bandwidth and VERY high latency. And I know I can't be the only one that has this problem. Anybody that codes knows what I mean, you can visualize and solve the problem in your head much faster than you can get that solution into the computer.
I thought that was fixed in this release with the addition of pthread support to their POSIX implementation.
Regardless of whether or not it backfires, it _does_ help interoperability, and that is a Good Thing no matter how you look at it. Almost nobody is exclusively Unix or MS, nor should they necessarily be.
The only bitch I will have is if this is like other Microsoft attempts at "interoperability" where they break shit. Think kerberos, java, etc.
Those things make a shitty company, not a monopoly ;-)
No, they aren't. What about Sony? I can't afford any of their cool shit either ;-)
Eh, a war of monopolies! They've just found common grounds to fight on...
I do not think that word means what you think it means.
Seriously, how do you figure apple as a monopoly on anything?
True enough. They may just be using the file format. However, the mplayer team has found several other instances of strings matching line for line. Also, part of the comparison that uncovered mpsub was a list of subtitle formats. The list in the firmware was in the exact same order as the list in mplayer. It even included the same "unknown" entry in the same place. There are just too many matches to be coincidence. This needs further investigation.
Actually, the code in question (the subtitle code) is even easier than that to verify. At issue is MPSub, the subtitle format developed internally by mplayer coders. This format was developed by them for them, and until mplayer's release had never been "in the wild". KISS's players mention the MPSub format in their subtitling code. That makes it pretty darn clear to me.
Solaris...well....
Well, it's irrelevant, since Sun holds a license from SCO.
I don't think you really know what you are talking about. The sole purpose of the interconnect is to shuttle data to the node, and then move the results back. A modern interconnect like Myrinet or Infiniband is adequate for a commodity cluster as long as you optimize the size of the dataset being sent to each node. I have personally seen the VA tech cluster, and each CPU is pegged almost 100% of the time, while the switched fabric that ties it all together still has some room to grow. Keep in mind that infiniband STARTS at 2.5Gb/s and scales up to 12X that. Hell, PCIx can't even keep up with top speed Infiniband.
Also, using the analogy of a cluster to a SMP machine, a bus to the CPU is EXACTLY what the interconnect is.
I don't think that is accurate. Yes the interconnect is VERY important, but the mesurement is the number of floating point operations per second that the machine can perform. This is purely a measurement of the raw processing power available. You can have the fastest interconnect in the world, but if your CPUs can't keep up it is all for nothing. Likewise, without the ability to feed those processors, the performance will suffer. To use the (flawed) analogy of a cluster to your desktop machine, think of InfiniBand as the bus to the individual processors (nodes).
Heh, Yeah, I can't afford 'em either ;-)
As anybody with an appreciation for music can tell you:
No highs, no lows, must be Bose!
Seriously, Bose sucks. And it has nothing to do with the article. Your Bose doesn't get HD radio.
If you want to hear a real audio dream, find a Martin-Logan dealer and take a listen.
Well, a stain is a _kind_ of mark.....
How the fuck do you know I'm underpaid? You don't even know what I do.
Think before you speak
Well then, how do you explain the success of the kernel team, or the apache team, most of whom have never met face to face?
I don't know about that. If I could work from home, I could get rid of one of my cars (no public transit where I live at all) and all the associated expense. That would easily make up for a 20% pay cut (between the payment, gas, insurance, maintenance, etc). I think it would also be VERY appealing to those of us with children and two working parents. Get to work from home and be there when the kids get back from school. It doesn't apply to everybody, but for some folks it may be an option.
Now if they tried to send me home at half pay, fuck em. I'll take the money and find a new damn job.