You don't know fuck about the requirements of games I guess. You know that on Linux, the DRI (used mostly by games) is the most insecure and most kernel panicking thing on Linux right?
Heh, the same problem with recycling newspapers. That paper is already at the end of a recycling chain and is of such poor quality, recycling it means is has to be used for insulation or something as it can't be used as "paper" any more... Most recycled newspaper goes in to land fills still.
The only truly recylable things are glass and aluminum (And steel). Virtually all of the "alternative" uses for recycled items so far have been pretty weak and not able to keep up with demand.
The idea should be, make objects that are known to be TRUELY recylable up front. Use glass, use metal, use materials that are actually degradeable or reuseable now. So far the thought is always "We'll find a way to re-use it later" (Just like nuclear waste!) But that virtually never pans out.
It's good that the places that manufacture most of this stuff are also the places that have the worst garbage disposal problem. In the U.S. we have too much land to care about it, but we don't actually manfac anything electronic here any more. If we did, the problem would never go away (Well not for another hundred years or more anyway)
One reason I like doing my own disks is because I can choose the disk to use. I like the solid black ones for my dark music. And just today I just found some CDR's that on top look exactly like a 45 record singles. Course those CDs cost a little more, but when doing it yourself, you save so inthe end it works out to the same cost.
It's ok if you really are printing up more than 100 or so. But it's actually a lot cheaper to do it yourself for smaller runs of 50 at a time... You can do full color for that same $1 if you do it yourself. But... That's just your TIME being used up:) Maybe one person's time is worth more than another's and $3 a disk ends up being worth it...
Did you miss out on the part where the artist keeps 91%?
That is the highest percentage of money going to an artist, indy or no in history!
Only $40 an album to host and + 91% sales return is by far the best music deal anyone could expect out there. Places like Ampcast take 50%!
As in indy artist myself and having been around and around the OMD scene, I can say with some authority that CD Baby is one of the best deals for artists out there.
Painter originally was a Fractal Design product up to version 5, then is was owned by MetaCreations up to version 6 I think, then and finally bought by Corel and published by them since.
I believe that both Fractal Design and MetaCreations are dead, dead, dead.
Though I agree with you about that first thought, I hope painter goes somewhere, it's too good a product to just let die.
You clearly do not know anything about the architecture of Windows, IE or AOL's "browser". AOL is NOT using "IE" it is using the Windows HTML rendering engine which IE also uses...
Windows ships with an HTML rendering engine as a COM object. Internet Explorer (IE6) uses this rendering engine to render pages. So does the Windows shell, so does the Windows help system and so do many 3rd party apps, including AOL. This is the main reason that AOL used "IE" It was a componetized "browser" long before anyone at Netscape even understood the concept.
Windows will ALWAYS contain an HTML rendering engine that will ALWAYS be available to third party vendors. Even if there is no wrapper in the form of a stand alone browser ("IE") from MS itself. The interface to the engine is multi- layerd as well, always supporting the older protocols, so new version of the engine will still work with older versions of software written for it. (It is currently on it's 2nd API)
BTW if you want to see what is available to third parties, check out the "MyIE2" browser. A tabbed, mouse gestured, popup blocking alternative to IE built using the windows HTML rendering engine. It's still mssing a couple of more advanced features which I hope get added soon, but it just shows that the lack of a MS branded "IE" is no loss to anyone, in fact it's an incentive for 3rd party developers like AOL!
Nothing immediate perhapse. But if others started using his image in wholly un-family oriented ways, they MAY have to drop him because of the new associations. Considering that it is THEIR character, why should they even have to take that chance?
And how is inventing a character but not allowing just any person to do anything they want with it, without permission, "Screwing the American public?" How? In what way? In what possible, even infinitessimal way? Does it limit other people from coming up with their OWN mouse characters? No... Then how?
Your argument has no legs whatsoever. You seem to be intimating that everything that can possibly be invented has been, and that there is no room for any possible further development unless everything that exists is (eventually) made PD. This is patently false.
What is preventing you from, right now, drawing up a cute mouse character of your own and putting it on a shirt and wearing it around... Nothing? I really don't understand how you've been screwed.
This is another example of pure selfishness, and not on the part of Disney, but on YOUR part. Does YOUR selfishness outweigh Disneys greed? Is it the other way around? No, they are (and should be) perfectly balanced. That is exactly what Copyright and Trademark law does.
Isn't opening and reading this mail potentially illegal or at least morally bankrupt? If you moved in to a new house and some mail for the previous owner gets delivered, you are not allowed to open it just because you now own the mail box it was delivered too.
I'm just sayin... all the talk about morality around here and yet, this seems pretty repugnant to go through someone elses mail, spammer or no. If you are not morally superior, then you are not better.
Except that with all the current imbalances etc in the game, getting in on the first day means you can take maximum advantage of leveling yourself up before anyone else. It generally becomes progressively harder and harder to attain high levels in these kinds of games the longer they are on line as they properly balance out the rarities of items or leveling metrics.
I would bet that a lot of the more "experienced" type gamers would all be trying to get in early to take advantage of this common game launch trait.
ALL consoles are initially sold at a loss. Sony does it, Sega does it Nintendo does it. Usually a couple years into it a console can actually be made for under the sale price because of better component prices and higher production runs. No one would buy a console for $500 when launched. On the other hand, games disks are cheap to make and at $50ea, contain enough margin to make the game manufacturere and the console maker money.
All consoles have always operated this way. MS did not make up this marketing tactic, Sony/Sega and Nintendo did long ago. (Probably others before them) All of them are(were) big enough companies to take losses up front for future revenue.
MS has lowered prices ONLY in response to Sony lowering theirs, the XBox was(is) the same price as it's leading competitor. So your tripe about MS undercutting the competition is pure tin foil hat garbage.
MS DOES lose money on every XBox sold IN THE SHORT TERM. They only make it back when you buy something like 4 or more games. Then after that they DO make money on you owning an XBox.
Are you insane? That's like saying GIMP will replace Photoshop. Neither of them are even close to being in the same leage.
It's hyperbole like that that HURTS Open Source.
Try telling a real professional that this thing is near to replacing ProTools and you will be laughed off the planet.
Get a grip. It (like gimp) might make a nice cheap alternative for the garage band or bedroom recording artist, but it's got about a decade more work to go to approach what ProTools does TODAY.
Advertise it for what it is, don't make completely uninformed comments like this will be a free replacement for ProTools. My ghod.
Have you actually USED a real java app? Not an applet, but a real app?
I've used about a half dozen and every one or them it so close to completely unuseable due to the complete mess that the JRE from Sun is. Slow and visually buggy to the point of extreme annoyance. I can't believe that anyone would be satisfied with using Java App for free and certainly not for pay.
Instead look to things like wxWindows which run NATIVE libs on all platforms, thus giving you the true look and feel of the platform as well as full speed, low memory requirements and NO UI bugs.
The original statement of "Always" is of course compeltely false. There is no such thing as "Always". In my personal experience with using such things as wxWindows etc, I find that debugging an app as a whole goes a lot SLOWER than when using something like MFC because wxWindows itself contains so many bugs that I am frequently debuggint IT instead of my own code. (BTW, MFC and MS's LIBC come with source, so debugging through it is pretty easy, compared to compeltely closed source)
Overall I find, then even though the MFC and.NET have their share of bugs, working with O.S. is frequently slower because of the "Fix it yourself" mentality you frequently run into with O.S. libraries and drivers.
OTOH, yes, sometimes Closed Source libraries will have a bug so severe that working around it takes a lot of effort.
So... 'Always"? Bullshit. I wouldn't even give it a "frequently". His, my or your experience in developing with O.S. or Closed Source will depend on exactly the bits of O.S. and C.S. that we use. but so far I do find that of all the O.S. and C.S. that I have used, the C.S. has been less trouble for my development debuggin wise. (Not to mention that my closed source debugger kicks the teeth out of GDB and KDevelop)
I love the google tool bar, but yeah that requires installing something. You can also go to the IE search pane and click "Customise" and pick and choose what search engine is used by default or in combination with others. No installing, just a couple clicks.
(This is not directed at you specifically, but to the thread in general)
How brain dead do they need to make it? How does MS know that 6 months from now that Google won't be dead, replaced by an engine that didn't exist when IE was shipped with the users machine? What default SHOULD they pick?
For most users defaulting to nothing and asking them the first time they use the search feature what engine they want would be infinately more confusing than just having it work out of the box. Then if the user is even microscopically interested, the tools for changing or overriding it are RIGHT THERE.
This seems to be another case of being picky to the point of absurdity.
So you are advocating cracker tactics to sabbotage another persons machine against their own wishes?
So between that suggestion and MS having MSN the default search engine in IE, which is more evil?
If you don't behave at a higher moral level than your foe, then you don't deserve to "win". At that point any possible evil thing MS can do to destroy Open Source is perfectly OK because you have no richeous footing to stand on.
You read my post wrong. They only give me 2 choices and neither one is what I need from them.
And it wasn't so much that they didn't offer it, but that they went out of their way on their web site to belittle me for even asking about the thrid choice. It's plain that they get hundreds of people asking about that third choice if they felt the need to FAQ it.
Since they are DEAD SET against the entire concept of shareware, to the point of being absurdly rude about it.
But here, even in the free software haven, shareware is considered viable and very much alive.
I am a shareware developer and had looked to license qt for a small run, low cost piece of software and they told me to go get stuffed. Full, insanely high priced, commercial license or GPL or go to hell is their motto.:(
That is because you used to work for a COMPANY which protected you personally from prosecuton. Your company decided to take the legal chances.
In this case LINUS is soley responsible. If the (C) hammer comes down, it's his head.
So you can see that Linus' situation and your situation were completely different. Would you have PERSONALLY put your head on the chopping block like Linus has? If not, then I'm afraid that your comment (and the comment of a LOT of other people) was disengenuous.
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You don't know fuck about the requirements of games I guess. You know that on Linux, the DRI (used mostly by games) is the most insecure and most kernel panicking thing on Linux right?
Oh, I guess not.
'Tard.
Heh, the same problem with recycling newspapers. That paper is already at the end of a recycling chain and is of such poor quality, recycling it means is has to be used for insulation or something as it can't be used as "paper" any more... Most recycled newspaper goes in to land fills still.
The only truly recylable things are glass and aluminum (And steel). Virtually all of the "alternative" uses for recycled items so far have been pretty weak and not able to keep up with demand.
The idea should be, make objects that are known to be TRUELY recylable up front. Use glass, use metal, use materials that are actually degradeable or reuseable now. So far the thought is always "We'll find a way to re-use it later" (Just like nuclear waste!) But that virtually never pans out.
It's good that the places that manufacture most of this stuff are also the places that have the worst garbage disposal problem. In the U.S. we have too much land to care about it, but we don't actually manfac anything electronic here any more. If we did, the problem would never go away (Well not for another hundred years or more anyway)
One reason I like doing my own disks is because I can choose the disk to use. I like the solid black ones for my dark music. And just today I just found some CDR's that on top look exactly like a 45 record singles. Course those CDs cost a little more, but when doing it yourself, you save so inthe end it works out to the same cost.
It's ok if you really are printing up more than 100 or so. But it's actually a lot cheaper to do it yourself for smaller runs of 50 at a time... You can do full color for that same $1 if you do it yourself. But... That's just your TIME being used up :) Maybe one person's time is worth more than another's and $3 a disk ends up being worth it...
Did you miss out on the part where the artist keeps 91%?
That is the highest percentage of money going to an artist, indy or no in history!
Only $40 an album to host and + 91% sales return is by far the best music deal anyone could expect out there. Places like Ampcast take 50%!
As in indy artist myself and having been around and around the OMD scene, I can say with some authority that CD Baby is one of the best deals for artists out there.
Was that a joke?
Painter originally was a Fractal Design product up to version 5, then is was owned by MetaCreations up to version 6 I think, then and finally bought by Corel and published by them since.
I believe that both Fractal Design and MetaCreations are dead, dead, dead.
Though I agree with you about that first thought, I hope painter goes somewhere, it's too good a product to just let die.
You clearly do not know anything about the architecture of Windows, IE or AOL's "browser". AOL is NOT using "IE" it is using the Windows HTML rendering engine which IE also uses...
Windows ships with an HTML rendering engine as a COM object. Internet Explorer (IE6) uses this rendering engine to render pages. So does the Windows shell, so does the Windows help system and so do many 3rd party apps, including AOL. This is the main reason that AOL used "IE" It was a componetized "browser" long before anyone at Netscape even understood the concept.
Windows will ALWAYS contain an HTML rendering engine that will ALWAYS be available to third party vendors. Even if there is no wrapper in the form of a stand alone browser ("IE") from MS itself. The interface to the engine is multi- layerd as well, always supporting the older protocols, so new version of the engine will still work with older versions of software written for it. (It is currently on it's 2nd API)
BTW if you want to see what is available to third parties, check out the "MyIE2" browser. A tabbed, mouse gestured, popup blocking alternative to IE built using the windows HTML rendering engine. It's still mssing a couple of more advanced features which I hope get added soon, but it just shows that the lack of a MS branded "IE" is no loss to anyone, in fact it's an incentive for 3rd party developers like AOL!
Nothing immediate perhapse. But if others started using his image in wholly un-family oriented ways, they MAY have to drop him because of the new associations. Considering that it is THEIR character, why should they even have to take that chance?
And how is inventing a character but not allowing just any person to do anything they want with it, without permission, "Screwing the American public?" How? In what way? In what possible, even infinitessimal way? Does it limit other people from coming up with their OWN mouse characters? No... Then how?
Your argument has no legs whatsoever. You seem to be intimating that everything that can possibly be invented has been, and that there is no room for any possible further development unless everything that exists is (eventually) made PD. This is patently false.
What is preventing you from, right now, drawing up a cute mouse character of your own and putting it on a shirt and wearing it around... Nothing? I really don't understand how you've been screwed.
This is another example of pure selfishness, and not on the part of Disney, but on YOUR part. Does YOUR selfishness outweigh Disneys greed? Is it the other way around? No, they are (and should be) perfectly balanced. That is exactly what Copyright and Trademark law does.
An Open Source/Linux website devoting 2-3 stories a day to bashing Microsoft...
Isn't opening and reading this mail potentially illegal or at least morally bankrupt? If you moved in to a new house and some mail for the previous owner gets delivered, you are not allowed to open it just because you now own the mail box it was delivered too.
I'm just sayin... all the talk about morality around here and yet, this seems pretty repugnant to go through someone elses mail, spammer or no. If you are not morally superior, then you are not better.
But what if one of your failing competitor decides to place his ads *on top* of yours, making you completely invisible to potential new clients?
You could be doing the work for free and still get no buisness at all...
Except that with all the current imbalances etc in the game, getting in on the first day means you can take maximum advantage of leveling yourself up before anyone else. It generally becomes progressively harder and harder to attain high levels in these kinds of games the longer they are on line as they properly balance out the rarities of items or leveling metrics.
I would bet that a lot of the more "experienced" type gamers would all be trying to get in early to take advantage of this common game launch trait.
90% of that statement is pure BS.
ALL consoles are initially sold at a loss. Sony does it, Sega does it Nintendo does it. Usually a couple years into it a console can actually be made for under the sale price because of better component prices and higher production runs. No one would buy a console for $500 when launched. On the other hand, games disks are cheap to make and at $50ea, contain enough margin to make the game manufacturere and the console maker money.
All consoles have always operated this way. MS did not make up this marketing tactic, Sony/Sega and Nintendo did long ago. (Probably others before them) All of them are(were) big enough companies to take losses up front for future revenue.
MS has lowered prices ONLY in response to Sony lowering theirs, the XBox was(is) the same price as it's leading competitor. So your tripe about MS undercutting the competition is pure tin foil hat garbage.
MS DOES lose money on every XBox sold IN THE SHORT TERM. They only make it back when you buy something like 4 or more games. Then after that they DO make money on you owning an XBox.
There now you know the REAL story.
Are you insane? That's like saying GIMP will replace Photoshop. Neither of them are even close to being in the same leage.
It's hyperbole like that that HURTS Open Source.
Try telling a real professional that this thing is near to replacing ProTools and you will be laughed off the planet.
Get a grip. It (like gimp) might make a nice cheap alternative for the garage band or bedroom recording artist, but it's got about a decade more work to go to approach what ProTools does TODAY.
Advertise it for what it is, don't make completely uninformed comments like this will be a free replacement for ProTools. My ghod.
Well it certinaly isn't in your machine! :)
What an insanely obvious troll.
How could anyone with mod privs be dense enough to give it an "interesting"? Arg!
Idiot! Everyone knows that it's TIN-FOIL (the aluminum kind) that blocks all radiation and mind-control rays!
It's too late for you, you are already ownzerd.
Have you actually USED a real java app? Not an applet, but a real app?
I've used about a half dozen and every one or them it so close to completely unuseable due to the complete mess that the JRE from Sun is. Slow and visually buggy to the point of extreme annoyance. I can't believe that anyone would be satisfied with using Java App for free and certainly not for pay.
Instead look to things like wxWindows which run NATIVE libs on all platforms, thus giving you the true look and feel of the platform as well as full speed, low memory requirements and NO UI bugs.
I can explain that.
.NET have their share of bugs, working with O.S. is frequently slower because of the "Fix it yourself" mentality you frequently run into with O.S. libraries and drivers.
The original statement of "Always" is of course compeltely false. There is no such thing as "Always". In my personal experience with using such things as wxWindows etc, I find that debugging an app as a whole goes a lot SLOWER than when using something like MFC because wxWindows itself contains so many bugs that I am frequently debuggint IT instead of my own code. (BTW, MFC and MS's LIBC come with source, so debugging through it is pretty easy, compared to compeltely closed source)
Overall I find, then even though the MFC and
OTOH, yes, sometimes Closed Source libraries will have a bug so severe that working around it takes a lot of effort.
So... 'Always"? Bullshit. I wouldn't even give it a "frequently". His, my or your experience in developing with O.S. or Closed Source will depend on exactly the bits of O.S. and C.S. that we use. but so far I do find that of all the O.S. and C.S. that I have used, the C.S. has been less trouble for my development debuggin wise. (Not to mention that my closed source debugger kicks the teeth out of GDB and KDevelop)
I love the google tool bar, but yeah that requires installing something. You can also go to the IE search pane and click "Customise" and pick and choose what search engine is used by default or in combination with others. No installing, just a couple clicks.
(This is not directed at you specifically, but to the thread in general)
How brain dead do they need to make it? How does MS know that 6 months from now that Google won't be dead, replaced by an engine that didn't exist when IE was shipped with the users machine? What default SHOULD they pick?
For most users defaulting to nothing and asking them the first time they use the search feature what engine they want would be infinately more confusing than just having it work out of the box. Then if the user is even microscopically interested, the tools for changing or overriding it are RIGHT THERE.
This seems to be another case of being picky to the point of absurdity.
So you are advocating cracker tactics to sabbotage another persons machine against their own wishes?
So between that suggestion and MS having MSN the default search engine in IE, which is more evil?
If you don't behave at a higher moral level than your foe, then you don't deserve to "win". At that point any possible evil thing MS can do to destroy Open Source is perfectly OK because you have no richeous footing to stand on.
Which makes YOU the more evil one...
Think about it.
You read my post wrong. They only give me 2 choices and neither one is what I need from them.
And it wasn't so much that they didn't offer it, but that they went out of their way on their web site to belittle me for even asking about the thrid choice. It's plain that they get hundreds of people asking about that third choice if they felt the need to FAQ it.
Since they are DEAD SET against the entire concept of shareware, to the point of being absurdly rude about it.
:(
But here, even in the free software haven, shareware is considered viable and very much alive.
I am a shareware developer and had looked to license qt for a small run, low cost piece of software and they told me to go get stuffed. Full, insanely high priced, commercial license or GPL or go to hell is their motto.
That is because you used to work for a COMPANY which protected you personally from prosecuton. Your company decided to take the legal chances.
In this case LINUS is soley responsible. If the (C) hammer comes down, it's his head.
So you can see that Linus' situation and your situation were completely different. Would you have PERSONALLY put your head on the chopping block like Linus has? If not, then I'm afraid that your comment (and the comment of a LOT of other people) was disengenuous.