If you actually see no difference between a normal mail server and Google scanning every mail for advertising opportunities then there is nothing I can say.
This is part of Googles amazing "do no evil" brain-washing that they have miraculously managed to cultivate, even at the most privacy chicken little center of the universe,/. itself!
It's truly amazing!
But still a very sad direction for the net to take where everything you do or say is read, probed, scanned, stored, cross linked and used to cultivate data stores for everyone elses benefit:(
"Even if Google becomes No. 3, it will take a while for people to get over the hype-brainwashing that has become the tale of Google."
That's dead on. I mean the things that Google has done that are direct privacy violations in the last couple of years should have taken the shine right off them. Yet look how brightly they glow in a large percentage of the/. user base!
How many hundreds or thousands of people here gladly gave up any semblance of email privacy to sign up for GMail, who have also unthoughtfully exposed their poor friends and relatives to having their email unwittingly scanned as well.
At this point I can't help mentally picturing Google fans, clutching at everything the company does even as they erode their privacy, like Golum clutching The Ring as he falls to his doom.
No thanks to their insane privacy invading email system and no thanks to whatever insane privacy invading browsing software they will come up with.
Time to wake up and smell the sell-out here folks! Google is out to OWN you and so far a rediculous number of you have been happily handing them the keys to your life.
It would be so un-Slashdot, except... "We LUV U Google! Kissy-Kissy".
Everyone should suffer with the hand that "god" delt them I suppose? Debilitating injuries, desieses, birth defects. What great compassion you have! Ever hear of the quip "God helps those that help themselves?" God has sure left us with a hell of "helping our selves" these days since he seems to have completely abandinded us.
I hope to "god" that you are not in control of what happens to me when I age. You can choose to ignore medical progress for your own body if you want, but stay the fuck away from my medical science!
How dare you condemn people to needless suffering because of your morals! Who is "playing god" now? This is what makes virtually all religeous people such major ass-hats. They all seem to know without question what "god" wants everyone else to do, in effect, they are the ones playing god, not the rest of us.
So you really would not mind of someone followed you around and recorded everything you did and said outside your home and posted on the net?
When you talk to someone in a restraunt, you do so with the knowledge that maybe a couple of people next to you might hear what you say. That is universes different from someone taking something you said in a temporary context and making it permanent for the entire world to see forever.
Webpages are similarly transitory and (at least in the past) people had a resonable expectation to be in control of their own website, retaining the right to change the contents or remove it entirely at their whim. Other people that work to remove this control are very much in violation of all number of rights of the creator.
Deja News, (google groups), search engine caching for anything and server caching for anything other than temporary outtage or short term transport efficiencies should not be allowed if the originator does not desire it, and such desire has to be OPT-IN. (Or at least opt-out at the source, such as the robots.txt method) It is completely unreasonable to expect every person and every entity to search through every service that ever comes and goes on the web and opt-out at the service end.
These sorts of things have an overall chilling effect on the posting of content on the web and are/truly/ evil.
As far as Whitehouse.gov goes, this is in a completely different light than private sector or private person content. If such services stuck to monitoring only public government output, this would be a compeltely different story.
Course there are only a few cases where you actually pay tax on "property". It's not an all encompassing policy. Or would you like to pay a yearly TV tax and Bed tax and Shoe tax and Toothbrush tax as well?
Well considering that the latest fusion development is that no one can decide where to built the next test site (or rather no one will allow a decision to be made) means that we can wait another 10 or so at least...:(
"Of course, Windows then goes and does exactly what Unix does, and gives all the privileges to one user..."
That is of course only/by default/.
Any proper admin can give any differnt list of permissions to any different number of users. You can have DNS admins and printer admins and Install admins and anything else you like. If you set it up that way.
The problem is, people are so exasperatingly lazy about actualy *doing* anything about security that it really doesn't matter in the end. You can hand the most sophisticated and secure OS to a person and the first thing they will do is assign every priv to a single user so they can start using their machine. (Someone in this discussion thread even mentioned that would be the first thing they would do with this system by hacking it)
"Security" in my mind is doomed to failure as a general state of being becuase only about 5% of the population cares at all, even the population that should be educated on the subject, I.e. the Admins.
It is dead simple to write a single program that uses the various plugin rendering engines such as gecko and mshtml. I've done it. For them to have hired a developer of FF just so he can continue to do his job but under their employ means that they probably want to somehow "embrace and extend" the FF browser into something very google specific.
This is typically the type of thing that gets/.'s panties in a bunch, it's the philosophical whiplash I get from watching so many people fall all over themselves to defend the exact behavior they have jihads against with companies that they don't like that threatens to nearly twist my neck off at times.:)
The scary part is how brainwashed people are to what google is actually doing. Look at the posts in this one article! Google has managed to get so much brain-trust that they can pretty much do anything and the google-droids wil march in line.
The question is, what does google want with Firefox at all? What is it about having to have the head developer on the payroll that they could not get by writing a wrapper for gecko and mshtml?
How can this be good for firefox as opposed to just god for google? There is plenty of room for fear. Wait until you are forced to install firefox just to use google services whether you want to or not... Maybe/you/ like FF tons and don't care, but would it be right to force that on anyone that want's to use the two singly or as seperate entities? The fact the two could very well become inappropriately tied to each other should be cause of worry, at least cause for keeping a watchful eye.
The real question is, where did 1280x1024 really come from, it's an old resolution, the different ratio is nothing "new". It created non-square pixels on CRTs for years.
It was natural for them (LCD manufacturers) to go that route becuase the stupid defacto "standard" PC resolutions are(were) 320x200(8:5!), 640x480(4:3), 800x600(4:3), 1024x769(4:3), 1280x1024(5:4!), 1600x1200 (4:3),... I bet very few people heard of or ran 1280x960, the real 4:3 resolution. May cards did not support it in their default driver configs.
I can't count how many people ran 1280x1024 with non-square pixels on their 4:3 monitors for years (including myself!) so the same thing essentially happened there too.
Though, I wonder, do 1280x1024 monitors run non-square pixels to fit the standard 4:3 monitor viewing area? or is the LCD display itself physically 5:4 in size? I've got LCDs in all resolutions from 800x600 up to 1920x1200 but not one with a native resolution of 1280x1024...
Instead of being Microsoft and charging into version 2 with a million new and useless features, how about solidifying 1.0 first?
There are still plenty outstanding bugs, security concerns and severe stability issues. Until they can/at least/ withstand the random data test without crashing on null or invalid pointers, and the bug lists are emptied, there is no point in discussing version 2.0
No it doesn't. Did you ever read what it says about WinPCap in the program?
Here, let me repeat it for you...
"WinPCap Type: Enabler Threat Level: Low Author: WinPCap Team including = Loris Degioanni
Description: WinPCap is an Open Source Windows Packet Filtering Library. It provides low level internet & system traffic data to other applications that leverage its utilities.
Advice: This software is not necessarily hazardous unless it is used by a particular spyware threat. If you quarantine or remove all of the spyware threats from your computer you do not necessarily need to remove this program. Please note: if a legitimate application is using functionality contained in an enabler application, removing the enabler may cause that application to cease functioning properly. This application is okay to have running on your computer, as they are only dangerous if a Spyware application is also installed on your machine and exploiting it. However if you did not install this, or know of a legitimate application that did, you may consider quarantining or removing it. Please note: if a legitimate application is using functionality contained in an enabler application, it may cause that application to cease functioning properly.
About Enabler: While not spyware, it provides functionality that spyware products have been known to exploit. Normally, these applications are okay to have running on your machine, as they are only dangerous if a Spyware application is also installed on your machine and exploiting it. However if you did not install this, or know of a legitimate application that did, you may consider quarantining or removing it. Please note: if a legitimate application is using functionality contained in an enabler application, removing the enabler may cause that application to cease functioning properly."
I am a "pro-sumer" hobby photographer. I took 5000 pictures last year and each picture is 12 megs in size. And that is only for a 6MP camera. Not to mention all the 100 to 200 gig PSD files I create when processing the good images.
An amature videographer might need even more.
I back up on DVD but having everything on line when I need it is very important. So yes, a TB drive would be pretty nice even though this is just a hobby. A pro might take 5k pictures a month or more!
We've been hearing for years about how nano-tubes are going to save mankind, make everything 100 times faster, 100x more energy efficient and taste 100% better.
So far not one commercial product has been produced that actually uses them for anything other than marketing hype. It's getting beyond tired.
"Nano-tube" is the call of the entrepreneur trying to get funding. All it takes is writing a paper or press release with the word "nano-tube" in it and people all jump to attention and thorw money. This is the 50th time we've heard it.
Keep researching but stop with the "This could be the greatest thing ever, why in two years blah blah blah" annoucements already. Just tell us when it's done and for sale.
We have that now! The winning side can immediately request a judgement against the plaintiff for attournies fees and it is frequently granted.
And it's not as great as you think. Lawsuits are largely based on the convoluted argumentative logic (and outright lies) of the lawyers and paid "experts" involved, not on facts or rights as a lot of people seem to think.
Frequently non-frivoulous, justified lawsuits fail in court and innocent people get severely burned by this. It's tripply insulting to be harmed by a company, lose a case against them becuase of a phony paid expert or a slick laywer and then suffer the indignity of paying for the proveledge!
It creates a serious atmosphere of fear against small complaintents even though they are 100% in the right. It is a tool used by corporations to prevent any type of lawsuit from even ocurring, justified or not.
Going a step further, in California, the insurance companies actually got a law passed that makes it impossible to sue a third party's insurance company for failing to pay a claim. So now they can deny claims with impunity becuase they can't be sued. As usual, it's the little guy that gets beaten sensless by these types of "corrections" to the system.
There are many ways of proving the earth is round without going into space. This was done hundreds of years ago.
You yourself can prove it by watching a large ship go over the horizon of an ocean if you want.
The curvature of the earth can be seen from a plane flying at high altitude.
Mount a vertical stick of known height in your back yard and the back yard of a friend in another state. During daylight, call your friend and both of you measure the shadow lengths cast by the sticks.
Go ahead, prove it, no need to "believe" any longer!:)
I suppose that if all your friends are snot-nosed whiners, then I LJ might look like a universe of snot-nosed whiners. But in my case, most of my friends are quite level headed.
LJ is a great way for groups of people to stay in touch. It offers a communication medium that email, "ICQ" and usenet don't match up to. It really is a nice medium for keeping in touch with friends and family.
The big "danger" though is that you are relying on a comapny to store your data for you, and that company can be sold and your data destroyed or used for purposes that you did not intend at any time.
I've been getting my personal website fixed up lately and have decided that I am going to post mainly to my own website from now on and merely provide links to it in lj. That way, even if LJ vaporizes tomorrow, I'll still have my data which I can link back to in another forum if I need to.
1) Yes. 2) No. 3) It's open source. 4) See #3 and because all/. headlines have to have inflamitory and misleading headlines to attract attention for some reason.
This is a perfectly resonable and responsible thing to do. So of course the Slash community is up in arms over it:)
This type of thing is what will allow R and X rated games to continue to be produced! The reality of the situation is: It's either this, or an outright ban on the sale of all violent video games to anybody. Which would we prefer?
And like R and X rated movies, if the kid wants them and the parent doesn't care, they can still buy them for little Johnny. If you are an adult, this does not affect your game buying at all.
1) Charge up a bunch of stuff on line on your CC. 2) Immidiately post your CC number to the net. 3) In amongst other potential charges, deny that you made any of them. 4) Profit!
Slashdot Mirror
I don't know, why does KDE look like Windows?
Frankly, I don;t know how to answer that.
/. itself!
:(
If you actually see no difference between a normal mail server and Google scanning every mail for advertising opportunities then there is nothing I can say.
This is part of Googles amazing "do no evil" brain-washing that they have miraculously managed to cultivate, even at the most privacy chicken little center of the universe,
It's truly amazing!
But still a very sad direction for the net to take where everything you do or say is read, probed, scanned, stored, cross linked and used to cultivate data stores for everyone elses benefit
"Even if Google becomes No. 3, it will take a while for people to get over the hype-brainwashing that has become the tale of Google."
/. user base!
That's dead on. I mean the things that Google has done that are direct privacy violations in the last couple of years should have taken the shine right off them. Yet look how brightly they glow in a large percentage of the
How many hundreds or thousands of people here gladly gave up any semblance of email privacy to sign up for GMail, who have also unthoughtfully exposed their poor friends and relatives to having their email unwittingly scanned as well.
At this point I can't help mentally picturing Google fans, clutching at everything the company does even as they erode their privacy, like Golum clutching The Ring as he falls to his doom.
No thanks to their insane privacy invading email system and no thanks to whatever insane privacy invading browsing software they will come up with.
Time to wake up and smell the sell-out here folks! Google is out to OWN you and so far a rediculous number of you have been happily handing them the keys to your life.
It would be so un-Slashdot, except... "We LUV U Google! Kissy-Kissy".
STOP IT!
Everyone should suffer with the hand that "god" delt them I suppose? Debilitating injuries, desieses, birth defects. What great compassion you have! Ever hear of the quip "God helps those that help themselves?" God has sure left us with a hell of "helping our selves" these days since he seems to have completely abandinded us.
I hope to "god" that you are not in control of what happens to me when I age. You can choose to ignore medical progress for your own body if you want, but stay the fuck away from my medical science!
How dare you condemn people to needless suffering because of your morals! Who is "playing god" now? This is what makes virtually all religeous people such major ass-hats. They all seem to know without question what "god" wants everyone else to do, in effect, they are the ones playing god, not the rest of us.
So you really would not mind of someone followed you around and recorded everything you did and said outside your home and posted on the net?
/truly/ evil.
When you talk to someone in a restraunt, you do so with the knowledge that maybe a couple of people next to you might hear what you say. That is universes different from someone taking something you said in a temporary context and making it permanent for the entire world to see forever.
Webpages are similarly transitory and (at least in the past) people had a resonable expectation to be in control of their own website, retaining the right to change the contents or remove it entirely at their whim. Other people that work to remove this control are very much in violation of all number of rights of the creator.
Deja News, (google groups), search engine caching for anything and server caching for anything other than temporary outtage or short term transport efficiencies should not be allowed if the originator does not desire it, and such desire has to be OPT-IN. (Or at least opt-out at the source, such as the robots.txt method) It is completely unreasonable to expect every person and every entity to search through every service that ever comes and goes on the web and opt-out at the service end.
These sorts of things have an overall chilling effect on the posting of content on the web and are
As far as Whitehouse.gov goes, this is in a completely different light than private sector or private person content. If such services stuck to monitoring only public government output, this would be a compeltely different story.
Course there are only a few cases where you actually pay tax on "property". It's not an all encompassing policy. Or would you like to pay a yearly TV tax and Bed tax and Shoe tax and Toothbrush tax as well?
Well considering that the latest fusion development is that no one can decide where to built the next test site (or rather no one will allow a decision to be made) means that we can wait another 10 or so at least... :(
"Of course, Windows then goes and does exactly what Unix does, and gives all the privileges to one user..."
/by default/.
:(
That is of course only
Any proper admin can give any differnt list of permissions to any different number of users. You can have DNS admins and printer admins and Install admins and anything else you like. If you set it up that way.
The problem is, people are so exasperatingly lazy about actualy *doing* anything about security that it really doesn't matter in the end. You can hand the most sophisticated and secure OS to a person and the first thing they will do is assign every priv to a single user so they can start using their machine. (Someone in this discussion thread even mentioned that would be the first thing they would do with this system by hacking it)
"Security" in my mind is doomed to failure as a general state of being becuase only about 5% of the population cares at all, even the population that should be educated on the subject, I.e. the Admins.
This is the sad truth.
It is dead simple to write a single program that uses the various plugin rendering engines such as gecko and mshtml. I've done it. For them to have hired a developer of FF just so he can continue to do his job but under their employ means that they probably want to somehow "embrace and extend" the FF browser into something very google specific.
/.'s panties in a bunch, it's the philosophical whiplash I get from watching so many people fall all over themselves to defend the exact behavior they have jihads against with companies that they don't like that threatens to nearly twist my neck off at times. :)
This is typically the type of thing that gets
Uh, they have all that now as of 1.0 and they didn't need to hire someone to get it.
This speaks of something much bigger.
The scary part is how brainwashed people are to what google is actually doing. Look at the posts in this one article! Google has managed to get so much brain-trust that they can pretty much do anything and the google-droids wil march in line.
/you/ like FF tons and don't care, but would it be right to force that on anyone that want's to use the two singly or as seperate entities? The fact the two could very well become inappropriately tied to each other should be cause of worry, at least cause for keeping a watchful eye.
The question is, what does google want with Firefox at all? What is it about having to have the head developer on the payroll that they could not get by writing a wrapper for gecko and mshtml?
How can this be good for firefox as opposed to just god for google? There is plenty of room for fear. Wait until you are forced to install firefox just to use google services whether you want to or not... Maybe
The real question is, where did 1280x1024 really come from, it's an old resolution, the different ratio is nothing "new". It created non-square pixels on CRTs for years.
... I bet very few people heard of or ran 1280x960, the real 4:3 resolution. May cards did not support it in their default driver configs.
It was natural for them (LCD manufacturers) to go that route becuase the stupid defacto "standard" PC resolutions are(were) 320x200(8:5!), 640x480(4:3), 800x600(4:3), 1024x769(4:3), 1280x1024(5:4!), 1600x1200 (4:3),
I can't count how many people ran 1280x1024 with non-square pixels on their 4:3 monitors for years (including myself!) so the same thing essentially happened there too.
Though, I wonder, do 1280x1024 monitors run non-square pixels to fit the standard 4:3 monitor viewing area? or is the LCD display itself physically 5:4 in size? I've got LCDs in all resolutions from 800x600 up to 1920x1200 but not one with a native resolution of 1280x1024...
Instead of being Microsoft and charging into version 2 with a million new and useless features, how about solidifying 1.0 first?
/at least/ withstand the random data test without crashing on null or invalid pointers, and the bug lists are emptied, there is no point in discussing version 2.0
There are still plenty outstanding bugs, security concerns and severe stability issues. Until they can
1) Have no morals.
2) Write a book linking two of the hottest negative topics in the news in specious ways.
3) Profit!
See? No "???" there at all!
No it doesn't. Did you ever read what it says about WinPCap in the program?
Here, let me repeat it for you...
"WinPCap
Type: Enabler
Threat Level: Low
Author: WinPCap Team including = Loris Degioanni
Description: WinPCap is an Open Source Windows Packet Filtering Library. It provides low level internet & system traffic data to other applications that leverage its utilities.
Advice: This software is not necessarily hazardous unless it is used by a particular spyware threat. If you quarantine or remove all of the spyware threats from your computer you do not necessarily need to remove this program. Please note: if a legitimate application is using functionality contained in an enabler application, removing the enabler may cause that application to cease functioning properly.
This application is okay to have running on your computer, as they are only dangerous if a Spyware application is also installed on your machine and exploiting it. However if you did not install this, or know of a legitimate application that did, you may consider quarantining or removing it. Please note: if a legitimate application is using functionality contained in an enabler application, it may cause that application to cease functioning properly.
About Enabler: While not spyware, it provides functionality that spyware products have been known to exploit. Normally, these applications are okay to have running on your machine, as they are only dangerous if a Spyware application is also installed on your machine and exploiting it. However if you did not install this, or know of a legitimate application that did, you may consider quarantining or removing it. Please note: if a legitimate application is using functionality contained in an enabler application, removing the enabler may cause that application to cease functioning properly."
I am a "pro-sumer" hobby photographer. I took 5000 pictures last year and each picture is 12 megs in size. And that is only for a 6MP camera. Not to mention all the 100 to 200 gig PSD files I create when processing the good images.
An amature videographer might need even more.
I back up on DVD but having everything on line when I need it is very important. So yes, a TB drive would be pretty nice even though this is just a hobby. A pro might take 5k pictures a month or more!
Stop with the nano-tube announcements!
We've been hearing for years about how nano-tubes are going to save mankind, make everything 100 times faster, 100x more energy efficient and taste 100% better.
So far not one commercial product has been produced that actually uses them for anything other than marketing hype. It's getting beyond tired.
"Nano-tube" is the call of the entrepreneur trying to get funding. All it takes is writing a paper or press release with the word "nano-tube" in it and people all jump to attention and thorw money. This is the 50th time we've heard it.
Keep researching but stop with the "This could be the greatest thing ever, why in two years blah blah blah" annoucements already. Just tell us when it's done and for sale.
We have that now! The winning side can immediately request a judgement against the plaintiff for attournies fees and it is frequently granted.
And it's not as great as you think. Lawsuits are largely based on the convoluted argumentative logic (and outright lies) of the lawyers and paid "experts" involved, not on facts or rights as a lot of people seem to think.
Frequently non-frivoulous, justified lawsuits fail in court and innocent people get severely burned by this. It's tripply insulting to be harmed by a company, lose a case against them becuase of a phony paid expert or a slick laywer and then suffer the indignity of paying for the proveledge!
It creates a serious atmosphere of fear against small complaintents even though they are 100% in the right. It is a tool used by corporations to prevent any type of lawsuit from even ocurring, justified or not.
Going a step further, in California, the insurance companies actually got a law passed that makes it impossible to sue a third party's insurance company for failing to pay a claim. So now they can deny claims with impunity becuase they can't be sued. As usual, it's the little guy that gets beaten sensless by these types of "corrections" to the system.
There are many ways of proving the earth is round without going into space. This was done hundreds of years ago.
:)
You yourself can prove it by watching a large ship go over the horizon of an ocean if you want.
The curvature of the earth can be seen from a plane flying at high altitude.
Mount a vertical stick of known height in your back yard and the back yard of a friend in another state. During daylight, call your friend and both of you measure the shadow lengths cast by the sticks.
Go ahead, prove it, no need to "believe" any longer!
I'll have to second that.
I suppose that if all your friends are snot-nosed whiners, then I LJ might look like a universe of snot-nosed whiners. But in my case, most of my friends are quite level headed.
LJ is a great way for groups of people to stay in touch. It offers a communication medium that email, "ICQ" and usenet don't match up to. It really is a nice medium for keeping in touch with friends and family.
The big "danger" though is that you are relying on a comapny to store your data for you, and that company can be sold and your data destroyed or used for purposes that you did not intend at any time.
I've been getting my personal website fixed up lately and have decided that I am going to post mainly to my own website from now on and merely provide links to it in lj. That way, even if LJ vaporizes tomorrow, I'll still have my data which I can link back to in another forum if I need to.
1) Yes. /. headlines have to have inflamitory and misleading headlines to attract attention for some reason.
2) No.
3) It's open source.
4) See #3 and because all
Exactly.
:)
This is a perfectly resonable and responsible thing to do. So of course the Slash community is up in arms over it
This type of thing is what will allow R and X rated games to continue to be produced! The reality of the situation is: It's either this, or an outright ban on the sale of all violent video games to anybody. Which would we prefer?
And like R and X rated movies, if the kid wants them and the parent doesn't care, they can still buy them for little Johnny. If you are an adult, this does not affect your game buying at all.
1) Charge up a bunch of stuff on line on your CC.
2) Immidiately post your CC number to the net.
3) In amongst other potential charges, deny that you made any of them.
4) Profit!
Uh, the windows XP command line takes either forward or backward slashes in paths... Just use forward slashes always and be happy.