While the folks who are doing the Linux Standard
Base Project are working on everything else,
perhaps they could provide a spec for LPM - a
Linux Package Manager - something that provides
interoperability with RPM / DEBs and eventually
replaces both.
I have five boxen at home - one runs SuSE, one
Mandrake-Linux, one Storm Firewall and the other
two are Slackware. Personally, I still prefer
to build from source tgzs - because I don't
really care 100% for either package manager.
Ah well - nothing is perfect and both formats
will only improve with time.
It seems like no remembers about amateur radio, in order to use it, you need to pass an examination, use a call sign, and abide by certain
rules, what's wrong with that?
Anyway... we can fairly accurately determine the atmospheric composition over the last centuries, and possibly longer from ice core
samples, fossil records, and so on. From these we are sure, not think, that we have at least doubled the CO2 concentration since the start
of the industrial revolution and we are sure that we are the cause of that.
The planet can handle a certain level of abuse, same way we can. That does mean that we can abuse it a bit, and it will recover, a bit more
and it will take longer, and too much, and it will become sick, and possibly die. Sure the planet will still be here, lots of people will still be
around, but I don't fancy a life in glass dome.
I don't know much, but I know enough to be saddened, partly by how much some people think they know.
I'm sure that the Dead Kennedys label, I think that it's Alternative Tentacles, but I'm not sure... is a non-RIAA label. Henry Rollins 2.13.61 record label is also non-RIAA though he's actually recording for Dreamworks...
BGC 2040 was the revamp they did recently, the characters are the same, but theres more character development, the old series is better for those who like action anime.
Security itself is mostly common sense, you need to know whencertain actions are good.
Now we published our security setup on slashdot, mostly because its nothing special in and of itself. However I don;t publish our *policy* and implementation.
Why? its just never a good idea, its common sense.
I hate the words "Security through Obscurity", mostly because, sometimes its "Security Through Prudence".
There are certain times I should never disclose actual implemenattion of a security plan. It would, in essence make it easier for those who are not even "grey hats" (not that I don't trust you slashdotters:p). And all it takes is sometimes *time* looking at a problem to fix it. Sometimes I *know* theres an issue, and I don;t want to invite trouble (like in the case of several DoS attacks we've had).
Network Engineers, Software Engineers, Security Engineers, they are nothing if but human. Now if you privately notify them about a hole and they refuse to do anything about it, or even acknowledge it, thats a *different* story.
the other thing thats important in this is peer review. A team of people should be in on implementation, its the same way with code. There should always be someone reviewing your work, or else you could FUBAR everything.
So lets forget security through obscurity, if being obscure is your only protection, then you are stupid. If prudence is the reason, simply until you can fix something known by you, then, maybe thats a good idea.
This story is true. 2 days ago, ATI announced that Apple would release 3 new computers, one with Rage 128 Pro 4XL, one with Rage 128 Pro, and one with Radeon. ATI thus violated Apple's NDA. Apple can switch out the graphics chip. There is already a Rage 128 Pro with both ADC and VGA so they just put it in the MP G4's which originally were supposed to be equipped with Radeon. This solution has already been tested throughly with this chipset and it has been used before. the iMac didn't have change, the cube didn't have change, but the G4 is beeing swaped. Look at the product page for the new multiprocessor G4's. It talks about gigatexels/sec. This can only be the radeon. also, teh inside mac games site cited specific ATI representatives so it should be true. inside mac games is not a rumor site.
recently, at USENIX, I had the pleasure of talking to Jason Wright, who works at NETSEC.
Jason is also an OpenBSD developer, and rpesented a paper on something very interesting, which I am in the process of planning to deploy.
OpenBSD currently can bridge layer 2 over IPSec interfaces, which makes for a nice, transparent VPN.
those who are interested, I can point anyone to the paper that was written, its also available from the USENIX Association... http://www.usenix.org.
echoing other people's comments, OpenBSD , because of its IPSec implementation, is perfect for this scenario, in fact IMHO its really the only thing that will do this particular job this well.
And this is coming from someone adamantly pro-FreeBSD =)
What makes you think that the BSD camp is even thinking about ReiserFS right now? We have our hands full with Soft Updates, and possibly LFFS in the future. Reiser is nice and all, but its creator can't even decide on a "release" version. Linux and BSD will always share information, they will also almost always do things in completely different manners. The other thing you neglect to realize is that the BSD distributions include GPL'd code, etc. Someone will probably port a GPL'd filesystem to *BSD and well, it'll go under/sys/contrib instead of under/sys/reiserfs. The spirit of copperation is important, and of communication. That doesn't mean that Linux will have everything BSD has and vice-versa. -Pat
Thanks Rob for the more agressive BSD coverage on Slashdot.
It amazes me how many people can't just co-exist peacefully. I use Linux at work, I prefer BSD. I've spent countless hours working with BSD.
BSD runs the pr0n industry too! =)
Anyway, my point is, can't we all just get along? At USENIX this year, Nik Clayton and I hung out with many Linux oriented people (including Stephen Tweedie and Theodore T'so) and had interesting coversations with them, ranging from SMP to filesystems, etc.
If the people at the forefront of these communities can get along, share information, even socialize with each other, what's so wrong with Slashdot readers getting along?
We use FreeBSD for firewalling at Andover, it works EXTREMELY well, slashdot's been fast, survived several DoS attacks (of which people barely noticed)
We also run the back end on Linux, we've got some plans in the works for some OpenBSD too....
Use what's best for the situation, this isn't some religious argument.
I'm proud to say that I've been taking more 'me time.' I don't sit around reading email and security logs every night/weekend. I actually take...*gasp* breaks now. I leave me beeper at home when I go out with friends and I COMPLETELY refuse to purchase a PDA. Take your job serious, but life's too short to waste it away on work.
If God is all powerful, could he must be able to create an animal capable of beating him at chess. In that case, is he omnipotent if he can't beat an animal at chess?
This discussion is dead, but we don't know if chess is solvable at this point. God may very well know the perfect game of chess - give him the opportunity to go first, and he will win. He then can't create a being capable of beating him at chess, because that defies the implication of the definition of chess (which would be a game that one can always win of one goes first.) You contradict yourself.
Actually, it's the $I{U}{defaultpoints} field that stores the default score - you and I have it as one (and $pts++ if $I{U}{karma} > 25 and !$I{F}{nobonus}; increases it for karma), and brucedot has it at -1. If his karma was below -10, it would try to decrement it and then $pts = -1 if $pts Also note that the/. crew has the option to give somebody a +5 starting score, too.
Diesm == God created the universe but cannot/does not interfere with it
The correct statement is "this is more diestic than I would have exected from Sagan". Sagan did not preclude Diesm, he just felt that there was no proof of a Diestic god. That's why he was an agnostic.
Now that the semantic issue is done, God can't lift a stone. "He" doesn't exist in a form capable of lifting the stone. Indeed, to modify a famous quote by the late great St. Augestine, weight is a property of the universe God created.
The actual quote is in response to the question, "What was God doing before he created the Universe?" His answer was that time is a property of the universe God created, and has no meaning outside of it. (According to physics, that's true.)
It's not using an undocumented API, because each game disc boots a modified Win2K kernel that's on the disc. (Some faith they place in their software to never need upgrades:)). The hardware can certainly be emulated ('specially if you own an nVidia board then).
Yes, it can. It's really improved since the early days (I rememer vesrsion 3! It's a lot better than that.) It's almost at Photoshop quality, and does some things that GIMP doesn't (but GIMP does some things that PhotoPaint doesn't.)
I didn't say that - I said I can argue both sides of a discussion:). However, I am a diest and not a thiest (sp?) - basically the difference is that I don't believe that there is any active interference with the universe.
On a related note, Pixel32 has promised a Linux port of their excellent (far better than PhotoPaint, IMHO) photo manipulation program. You can register until the end of July for $32, get the WinDOS version, and then get the BeOS and Linux versions for free later when they come out. (After that it's $50).
Slashdot Mirror
Posted by polar_bear:
While the folks who are doing the Linux Standard
Base Project are working on everything else,
perhaps they could provide a spec for LPM - a
Linux Package Manager - something that provides
interoperability with RPM / DEBs and eventually
replaces both.
I have five boxen at home - one runs SuSE, one
Mandrake-Linux, one Storm Firewall and the other
two are Slackware. Personally, I still prefer
to build from source tgzs - because I don't
really care 100% for either package manager.
Ah well - nothing is perfect and both formats
will only improve with time.
Posted by PartA:
It seems like no remembers about amateur radio, in order to use it, you need to pass an examination, use a call sign, and abide by certain
rules, what's wrong with that?
Posted by PartA:
I can't help but be amused by the other postings.
The level of denial is remarkable.
Anyway... we can fairly accurately determine the atmospheric composition over the last centuries, and possibly longer from ice core
samples, fossil records, and so on. From these we are sure, not think, that we have at least doubled the CO2 concentration since the start
of the industrial revolution and we are sure that we are the cause of that.
The planet can handle a certain level of abuse, same way we can. That does mean that we can abuse it a bit, and it will recover, a bit more
and it will take longer, and too much, and it will become sick, and possibly die. Sure the planet will still be here, lots of people will still be
around, but I don't fancy a life in glass dome.
I don't know much, but I know enough to be saddened, partly by how much some people think they know.
Posted by polar_bear:
I'm sure that the Dead Kennedys label, I think that it's Alternative Tentacles, but I'm not sure... is a non-RIAA label. Henry Rollins 2.13.61 record label is also non-RIAA though he's actually recording for Dreamworks...
Posted by BSD-Pat:
BGC 2040 was the revamp they did recently, the characters are the same, but theres more character development, the old series is better for those who like action anime.
Posted by BSD-Pat:
:p). And all it takes is sometimes *time* looking at a problem to fix it. Sometimes I *know* theres an issue, and I don;t want to invite trouble (like in the case of several DoS attacks we've had).
Security itself is mostly common sense, you need to know whencertain actions are good.
Now we published our security setup on slashdot, mostly because its nothing special in and of itself. However I don;t publish our *policy* and implementation.
Why? its just never a good idea, its common sense.
I hate the words "Security through Obscurity", mostly because, sometimes its "Security Through Prudence".
There are certain times I should never disclose actual implemenattion of a security plan. It would, in essence make it easier for those who are not even "grey hats" (not that I don't trust you slashdotters
Network Engineers, Software Engineers, Security Engineers, they are nothing if but human. Now if you privately notify them about a hole and they refuse to do anything about it, or even acknowledge it, thats a *different* story.
the other thing thats important in this is peer review. A team of people should be in on implementation, its the same way with code. There should always be someone reviewing your work, or else you could FUBAR everything.
So lets forget security through obscurity, if being obscure is your only protection, then you are stupid. If prudence is the reason, simply until you can fix something known by you, then, maybe thats a good idea.
-Pat
Posted by Nr9:
the story is wrong in that the radeon was meant for the cubes but the idea that radeons were supposed to ship is right.
ati has said that they apple would announce a machine with rage 4xl(imac), rage128 pro, and radeon.
the radeon is obviously for the Power Mac G4
Posted by Nr9:
This story is true.
2 days ago, ATI announced that Apple would release 3 new computers, one with Rage 128 Pro 4XL, one with Rage 128 Pro, and one with Radeon. ATI thus violated Apple's NDA.
Apple can switch out the graphics chip. There is already a Rage 128 Pro with both ADC and VGA so they just put it in the MP G4's which originally were supposed to be equipped with Radeon. This solution has already been tested throughly with this chipset and it has been used before. the iMac didn't have change, the cube didn't have change, but the G4 is beeing swaped. Look at the product page for the new multiprocessor G4's. It talks about gigatexels/sec. This can only be the radeon. also, teh inside mac games site cited specific ATI representatives so it should be true. inside mac games is not a rumor site.
Posted by Nr9:
Did you look at Apple's web page detailing the G4's video card? there's an image saying gigatexel/second. Must be for the radeon.
Posted by Nr9:
adobe is very good at optimizing for intel.
intel sent people to optimize their sse stuff
Posted by BSD-Pat:
recently, at USENIX, I had the pleasure of talking to Jason Wright, who works at NETSEC.
Jason is also an OpenBSD developer, and rpesented a paper on something very interesting, which I am in the process of planning to deploy.
OpenBSD currently can bridge layer 2 over IPSec interfaces, which makes for a nice, transparent VPN.
those who are interested, I can point anyone to the paper that was written, its also available from the USENIX Association... http://www.usenix.org.
echoing other people's comments, OpenBSD , because of its IPSec implementation, is perfect for this scenario, in fact IMHO its really the only thing that will do this particular job this well.
And this is coming from someone adamantly pro-FreeBSD =)
-Pat
Posted by BSD-Pat:
/sys/contrib instead of under /sys/reiserfs. The spirit of copperation is important, and of communication. That doesn't mean that Linux will have everything BSD has and vice-versa. -Pat
What makes you think that the BSD camp is even thinking about ReiserFS right now? We have our hands full with Soft Updates, and possibly LFFS in the future. Reiser is nice and all, but its creator can't even decide on a "release" version. Linux and BSD will always share information, they will also almost always do things in completely different manners. The other thing you neglect to realize is that the BSD distributions include GPL'd code, etc. Someone will probably port a GPL'd filesystem to *BSD and well, it'll go under
Posted by BSD-Pat:
Thanks Rob for the more agressive BSD coverage on Slashdot.
It amazes me how many people can't just co-exist peacefully. I use Linux at work, I prefer BSD. I've spent countless hours working with BSD.
BSD runs the pr0n industry too! =)
Anyway, my point is, can't we all just get along? At USENIX this year, Nik Clayton and I hung out with many Linux oriented people (including Stephen Tweedie and Theodore T'so) and had interesting coversations with them, ranging from SMP to filesystems, etc.
If the people at the forefront of these communities can get along, share information, even socialize with each other, what's so wrong with Slashdot readers getting along?
We use FreeBSD for firewalling at Andover, it works EXTREMELY well, slashdot's been fast, survived several DoS attacks (of which people barely noticed)
We also run the back end on Linux, we've got some plans in the works for some OpenBSD too....
Use what's best for the situation, this isn't some religious argument.
This coming from the Devil's Advocate.....
-Pat
Posted by Charlza:
:p
I'm proud to say that I've been taking more 'me time.' I don't sit around reading email and security logs every night/weekend. I actually take...*gasp* breaks now. I leave me beeper at home when I go out with friends and I COMPLETELY refuse to purchase a PDA. Take your job serious, but life's too short to waste it away on work.
BTW, I was on a break when I typed this
If God is all powerful, could he must be able to create an animal capable of beating him at chess. In that case, is he omnipotent if he can't beat an animal at chess?
This discussion is dead, but we don't know if chess is solvable at this point. God may very well know the perfect game of chess - give him the opportunity to go first, and he will win. He then can't create a being capable of beating him at chess, because that defies the implication of the definition of chess (which would be a game that one can always win of one goes first.) You contradict yourself.
Posted by Venison Meat:
Something better than Genesis? Genesis is the true account of of the inception of the human race. It should be the first thing saved.
Posted by 11223:
/. crew has the option to give somebody a +5 starting score, too.
Actually, it's the $I{U}{defaultpoints} field that stores the default score - you and I have it as one (and $pts++ if $I{U}{karma} > 25 and !$I{F}{nobonus}; increases it for karma), and brucedot has it at -1. If his karma was below -10, it would try to decrement it and then $pts = -1 if $pts Also note that the
Thiesm == God interferes with the universe
Diesm == God created the universe but cannot/does not interfere with it
The correct statement is "this is more diestic than I would have exected from Sagan". Sagan did not preclude Diesm, he just felt that there was no proof of a Diestic god. That's why he was an agnostic.
First of all, you mean all-powerful.
Now that the semantic issue is done, God can't lift a stone. "He" doesn't exist in a form capable of lifting the stone. Indeed, to modify a famous quote by the late great St. Augestine, weight is a property of the universe God created.
The actual quote is in response to the question, "What was God doing before he created the Universe?" His answer was that time is a property of the universe God created, and has no meaning outside of it. (According to physics, that's true.)
Posted by 11223:
:)). The hardware can certainly be emulated ('specially if you own an nVidia board then).
It's not using an undocumented API, because each game disc boots a modified Win2K kernel that's on the disc. (Some faith they place in their software to never need upgrades
Posted by 11223:
Did I see something a while ago about a port of this program to Linux? Will there ever be one?
Posted by 11223:
Yes, it can. It's really improved since the early days (I rememer vesrsion 3! It's a lot better than that.) It's almost at Photoshop quality, and does some things that GIMP doesn't (but GIMP does some things that PhotoPaint doesn't.)
Posted by 11223:
The site you want is Online PhotoLab - and it is indeed GIMP. It's an online adaptation of the GIMP.
Posted by 11223:
:). However, I am a diest and not a thiest (sp?) - basically the difference is that I don't believe that there is any active interference with the universe.
I didn't say that - I said I can argue both sides of a discussion
Posted by 11223:
On a related note, Pixel32 has promised a Linux port of their excellent (far better than PhotoPaint, IMHO) photo manipulation program. You can register until the end of July for $32, get the WinDOS version, and then get the BeOS and Linux versions for free later when they come out. (After that it's $50).